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Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: PonderInc on June 06, 2008, 11:52:03 AM
This home was apparantly a designer showcase house a few years ago, but has recently been owned by a religious organization.  It's now up for IRS auction with a minimum bid of $300,000.

Gorgeous, stately mansion across the street from the Kennedy mansion on Country Club Rd.  Incredible views of downtown Tulsa.  Hope that whoever buys it wants to take care of it.

http://www.ustreas.gov/auctions/irs/tuok_real_2908.htm

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Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 06, 2008, 12:05:44 PM
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Historic mansion located just north of downtown Tulsa. Residence was built in 1920 and consists of three stories with full basement. Approximate square footage of residence: basement - 2912; first floor - 2912; second floor - 2368; and third floor - 1132. There is an attached meeting area with approximately 4176 square feet of space. There is a two story garage apartment containing approximately 1036 square feet of space on the first floor, and 600 square feet on second floor. There are 4 open porches and an in-ground swimming pool. Wrought iron fencing covers the south and west sides, with stockade fencing covering the north and east. Property is located approximately ½ mile from the soon to be completed BOK Center. This property holds fantastic potential as an executive home or as a bed and breakfast location. Property is appraised by Osage County Assessor's Office at $393,889.00.


Wow.  Call it 15,000 Sq. Ft. of space.  I'd just have NO idea what to do with it all.  I'd like to be able to just wonder around 15K Feet of space in a 1920's house.

Plus the pool and other facilities on the grounds wouldn't be bad.  

Standing bid of $5,000.  Nah, lets make it $10,000.  Or I'll trade straight up for my current property.  [;)]
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: midtownnewbie on June 06, 2008, 12:58:03 PM
Wow!  We're going to need to drive by that sometime this weekend.  What's the easiest way of getting there?
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: Conan71 on June 06, 2008, 03:49:18 PM
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Originally posted by midtownnewbie

Wow!  We're going to need to drive by that sometime this weekend.  What's the easiest way of getting there?



1313 Mockingbird Drive
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: mrB on June 06, 2008, 05:20:37 PM
585 W Fairview, Tulsa, OK 74127

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=q0tfj66zzwp3&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=16615017&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: TheArtist on June 06, 2008, 06:49:02 PM
Thank goodness. Hopefully someone will buy it and fix it up. Went to take pics of some of the large, historic, homes in the area and noticed how that "religious organization" was letting the place go into ruin. There were several small trees growing right up next to the foundation that needed to be cut out before they ruined the foundation and caused a looot of expensive damage. Wasnt something that was planted there, were just trees that had started growing and the lazy, uncaring, jerks who have the place now just werent keeping the place up. Made me mad to see such a great old home ruined by such neglect.

Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: jiminy on June 06, 2008, 10:20:10 PM
When I saw the topic, I thought you were talking about this (//%22http://www.tulsarealtors.com/ResidentialDetails.aspx?MLS=806980%22).

Didn't know there were houses in Tulsa worth $12M.
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: jiminy on June 06, 2008, 10:34:06 PM
Just looked at the map and realized where that is.  Is this one of the Roberts'?
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: TheArtist on June 06, 2008, 10:56:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

Just looked at the map and realized where that is.  Is this one of the Roberts'?



No way. They would take better care of their home than that. Plus they wouldn't live in something that "unkept" inside.
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: TheArtist on June 06, 2008, 11:11:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

When I saw the topic, I thought you were talking about this (//%22http://www.tulsarealtors.com/ResidentialDetails.aspx?MLS=806980%22).

Didn't know there were houses in Tulsa worth $12M.



Goodness yes, probably a dozen or so.... however, many may not be "assessed" as being that much. Even wealthy people dont want to have to pay more property taxes than they have to.

Thought it was funny one time when I was doing some artwork in a new home that was just finishing up construction. The assessor must not have been used to being in the higher end homes. I remember him walking around with a bit of an awed and dazed look on his face and mumbling something about not even knowing where to start lol. And the builder and the homeowner arent gonna exactly be eagerly helping the guy out. This wasnt even a truly high end home, this guy would have been completely out of his competency if he went into a real high end home. He wouldnt know a 500 dollar door from a 15,000 dollar one for example.


Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: jiminy on June 06, 2008, 11:18:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

Just looked at the map and realized where that is.  Is this one of the Roberts'?


No way. They would take better care of their home than that. Plus they wouldn't live in something that "unkept" inside.



I was actually referring to the $12M house.  It's just down the street from ORU.  

Funny how much I don't know about Tulsa even though I've lived here all my life.
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: mrB on June 07, 2008, 02:52:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

I was actually referring to the $12M house.  It's just down the street from ORU.  

Funny how much I don't know about Tulsa even though I've lived here all my life.





From NewsOn6 last fall

Mansion For Sale

A Tulsa man traveled the world to fill his home with fine furnishings and lavish finishes. Now, his masterpiece mansion is for sale. It's a $12 million home that took ten years to build in the heart...

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=7731598

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Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: TheArtist on June 07, 2008, 07:32:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

Just looked at the map and realized where that is.  Is this one of the Roberts'?


No way. They would take better care of their home than that. Plus they wouldn't live in something that "unkept" inside.



I was actually referring to the $12M house.  It's just down the street from ORU.  

Funny how much I don't know about Tulsa even though I've lived here all my life.



Aaah the 12 mill one. No its not any of the Roberts either.  And no, I wouldn't call that one "unkept" lol.

Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: TUalum0982 on June 07, 2008, 08:42:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

Just looked at the map and realized where that is.  Is this one of the Roberts'?


No way. They would take better care of their home than that. Plus they wouldn't live in something that "unkept" inside.



I was actually referring to the $12M house.  It's just down the street from ORU.  

Funny how much I don't know about Tulsa even though I've lived here all my life.



There are are some gorgeous homes around 109th and Sheridan, in a new small neighborhood.  Also drive down Yale between 91st and 101st.  116th and Sheridan has some amazing homes as well.  I would say there are several several homes in the Tulsa area worth well over 10 million but like the guy above said, they know how to avoid paying the high property taxes!
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: PonderInc on June 07, 2008, 11:58:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mrB

585 W Fairview, Tulsa, OK 74127

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=q0tfj66zzwp3&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=16615017&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1




The arial view gives you an idea of just how many mansions like this must have been destroyed to build the IDL.  So sad!
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: pfox on June 08, 2008, 12:46:36 AM
I took some pics of the Springer Mansion when I was a Planner with the city:

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Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: mdunn on June 08, 2008, 01:22:08 AM
The wal-mart x-mas lights come with?Cause it really adds to the value!
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: mdunn on June 08, 2008, 01:26:23 AM
Im gonna drive up to look at it,Ive been thinking of starting a cult,gonna worship pinecones!The place looks perfect!
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: si_uk_lon_ok on June 08, 2008, 02:15:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

Just looked at the map and realized where that is.  Is this one of the Roberts'?


No way. They would take better care of their home than that. Plus they wouldn't live in something that "unkept" inside.



I was actually referring to the $12M house.  It's just down the street from ORU.  

Funny how much I don't know about Tulsa even though I've lived here all my life.



Aaah the 12 mill one. No its not any of the Roberts either.  And no, I wouldn't call that one "unkept" lol.





At $690 per square foot it must be one of the most expensive houses to ever come on the market, I thought $300 a square foot was considered top whack. $690 is a lot of money for house where you would seem under-dressed without a powdered wig.
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: zstyles on June 09, 2008, 10:34:23 AM
I'd like to see the electric bill on that one!!!
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: PonderInc on June 09, 2008, 11:10:03 AM
The point is that you can't get craftsmanship like this anymore.  Did you notice the oak floors and how they created different designs with the wood?  How the bannisters must be carved out of enormous chunks of wood to get the curves?  The stonework, the terra cotta tile, the carved fireplace.  You would pay millions of dollars to attempt to recreate something like this today...and even if you hired craftsmen from overseas, you couldn't get the materials in many cases.  I know for a fact that it's almost impossible to get huge chunks of high quality hardwoods anymore.  Couldn't tell if the ceiling beams are stained oak or walnut...either way, it's amazing.
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: Rico on June 09, 2008, 05:17:19 PM
I am so thankful that this "Mansion" did not go the way of the other "Mother Tucker" homes....

Since I have lived in Tulsa the majority of those have burned.... Then she moved on.[:(]
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: TheArtist on June 09, 2008, 06:54:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc

The point is that you can't get craftsmanship like this anymore.  Did you notice the oak floors and how they created different designs with the wood?  How the bannisters must be carved out of enormous chunks of wood to get the curves?  The stonework, the terra cotta tile, the carved fireplace.  You would pay millions of dollars to attempt to recreate something like this today...and even if you hired craftsmen from overseas, you couldn't get the materials in many cases.  I know for a fact that it's almost impossible to get huge chunks of high quality hardwoods anymore.  Couldn't tell if the ceiling beams are stained oak or walnut...either way, it's amazing.



I would say there are comparable, if not better, homes being built in Tulsa today. Many of the highest end homes I work in the cabinetry is custom designed and hand carved. Same with the doors "one client showed me the hinges on the doors that had intricate designs cast into them, each hinge cost over 500$ a piece". Often light fixtures are designed and cast for the home. One home I worked in recently had the floor in the wine room imported from a monastery in France, still had the moss and centuries of grime on the tiles lol. The beams in the main living area were old wooden bridge trusses, they were huuuge beams you probably couldnt find otherwise today. The driveway was paved with granite pavers salvaged from the roads in Chicago. The master tub was carved from a solid block of granite. I spent almost a month just painting murals in just one of the powder baths. Was definitely a treat, though a bit cramped feeling after a while lol, I rarely get to do that kind of quality work for rarely can anyone afford me to paint at that level. One home had the entire dining room imported. I believe it was from an old Embassy in Paris. Had hand carved angels and such on the walls. The downstairs "basement" was designed to look like a German Pub or Winery. Had brick columns throughout the room that arched up into vaults, the whole ceiling was brick vaulting. When they were remodeling they had the design and engineering firm set up a full time office at the house. They were there for easily over a year. You may not drive by this house and give it a second glance not realizing the incredible quality, perfection and attention to detail inside. Yet another house may look impressive on the outside and be cheaply done on the inside. Most of these highest end homes are absolutely not on any design tours, parade of homes etc. Some even I have had to sign legal forms so that I cant say who lives there, cant take any photos even of my work, have to be fingerprinted, etc. Course there are some that just give me my own set of keys and say "have at it, wine is in the cellar over there, if you want something to eat have the cook make you something, the media room is over there, etc." lol.

Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: jack009 on August 12, 2008, 12:05:01 AM
The house is really beautiful with its location and landscapes. Any one who sees this picture would be interested in buying this home and so am i. The minimum bid is a problem for me.

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Jack
Car Auctions  (//%22http://www.gov-auctions.org%20%22)
Title: Stunning Tulsa mansion up for IRS auction
Post by: Nik on August 12, 2008, 12:19:47 PM
That house isn't too far away from this one:

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