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Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Friendly Bear on July 03, 2008, 01:54:16 pm
Let's have some fun, and suggest names for the relocating Oklahoma NBA team.

I'll start:

The Oklahoma Turnpikes.

It will INSTANTLY connect with anyone who has ever visited Oklahoma via automobile, bus or commercial truck.

[8D]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: zstyles on July 03, 2008, 02:03:45 pm
Ill name it

LAMA'S


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: brunoflipper on July 03, 2008, 05:04:17 pm
oklahoma city dirt clods?
oklahoma city **** kickers?
oklahoma city sprawlers?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Chicken Little on July 03, 2008, 06:54:44 pm
The Oklahoma City Nottulsans


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: chlfan on July 03, 2008, 07:32:33 pm
Canal Ferries [:D]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: waterboy on July 03, 2008, 08:06:19 pm
Bricktown Bombers
TulsaLittleSisters
OklahomaCityHickBricks
SeattleRejects

TurnerTurnpikeTownies

The Oklahoma City Tax Bandits


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: sgrizzle on July 03, 2008, 08:21:02 pm
They'll pick something like the "Boomers" or the "Bombers" or  "Thunderbirds" like every school mascot in OKC already is.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Friendly Bear on July 03, 2008, 08:42:23 pm
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

They'll pick something like the "Boomers" or the "Bombers" or  "Thunderbirds" like every school mascot in OKC already is.



All good choices, and good fun!

[:)]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: JoeMommaBlake on July 03, 2008, 09:17:28 pm
Bandits
 - Appropriate for a number of reasons. They stole the team from Seattle and bandits are known theives. The name also has an old west sound, which is appropriate for the area. We all know that Oklahoma is practically incapable of naming a team something that doesn't have to do with oil, the west, or tornadoes.

Pride
 - If ever there was a city that was proud of its accomplishemts, it's OKC. They're so proud of themselves, they won't even name the team after the state, but instead they insist on naming it after their city. Pride is cool, because you can use the lion as the logo. Pride has a nice double meaning.

Capitalists
 - cap·i·tal·ist /#712;kæp#618;tl#618;st/ [kap-i-tl-ist] –noun 1. a person who has capital, esp. extensive capital, invested in business enterprises.
2. an advocate of capitalism.
3. a very wealthy person.

I figure that this is a great team name for a number of reasons. They've proven that they have plenty of capital. $45 mil to the city of Seattle? No big deal. Depend on revenue and fan interest from the whole state? "Nope. Don't even need Tulsa to care about this team. We'll be just fine." As for definition number 2, can you get more capitalistic than Clay Bennett? He just allowed the capitalist society we live in to work for him. Furthermore, the players on the team will now officially make up 10 of the richest people in OKC, which makes that definition number 3 especially true.

Brick Layers
 - Since the Ford center in in the heart of bricktown, and since the team is known for tossing bricks...

Elite
 - Shouldn't the best city in the state have a name that reflects their "best-ness?" Oh wait... They still aren't the best city in the state...even with a basketball team.

Canal Dwellers
 - Since they have that great canal.

Natural Gas
 - The days of crude are practically done, however, our state is one of the nation's largest producers of natural gas. Mark my words...natural gas is about to blow up...plus this name takes care of the obligatory Oklahoma oil idea.

F5's
 - Not the aircraft, the tornado. Book it. The team shall be unoriginally named after a freaking tornado.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: OSU on July 03, 2008, 09:22:33 pm
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

They'll pick something like the "Boomers" or the "Bombers" or  "Thunderbirds" like every school mascot in OKC already is.




Don't bet on bombers, I always liked the name for midwest city but "Oklahoma City Bombers" doesn't have a very nice sound to it.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Curmudgeon on July 03, 2008, 10:21:07 pm
Apparently "Barons" and "Thunder" are being considered.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Breadburner on July 03, 2008, 11:57:38 pm
Clam Nibblers....


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: inteller on July 04, 2008, 01:15:57 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Curmudgeon

Apparently "Barons" and "Thunder" are being considered.



Barons....how appropriate.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: chlfan on July 04, 2008, 01:49:42 pm
Barons has long been the rumored name.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: bugo on July 05, 2008, 01:46:04 am
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

Let's have some fun, and suggest names for the relocating Oklahoma NBA team.

I'll start:

The Oklahoma Turnpikes.

It will INSTANTLY connect with anyone who has ever visited Oklahoma via automobile, bus or commercial truck.

[8D]



Funny, I was thinking the same thing a couple of days ago.

I say call them the Oklahoma City Snubbers.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Johnboy976 on July 05, 2008, 07:43:42 am
Btw, we have a great following of people who now hate OKC and are not from anywhere close to Tulsa. Many of the basketball loving Washingtonians would love to gouge out Clay Bennett's eyes, and burn OKC to the ground. As such, I am sure that they have come up with some nice names for the team.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: okcpulse on July 05, 2008, 09:34:51 am
Wow, nice attitude, jerks.  So it's okay for every other city to 'steal' a team, but OH NO, NOT OKC.  We can't let them progress.

One day, this country will be in shambles.  And I will be laughing at all you people stuck in this ****hole you call a country.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Johnboy976 on July 05, 2008, 09:48:04 am
I just tell it as I hear it. But wouldn't you be hacked if your city lost their franchise? A franchise that they had for several decades?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: sgrizzle on July 05, 2008, 10:26:28 am
I haven't seen this kinda of uprising over a team move in years. I kept seeing news story after news story with crying seattleites, "save our sonics" t-shirts, etc.

And Tulsa isn't upset because they got the seattle franchise. Tulsa is upset because they specifically said they had to use demographics from Tulsa to get the franchise but the idea of making it a state team was ludicrous even though something like 40% of the NBA teams are state teams. Not only that, everyone knows giving a team a state identity gets more fans and more merchandise and ticket sales. How many people do you think would go to a "Norman Sooners" game?

Also, at one time the idea of playing any games in Tulsa was ludicrous and now they are at least starting to cave on that angle.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 05, 2008, 10:55:45 am
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

Wow, nice attitude, jerks.  So it's okay for every other city to 'steal' a team, but OH NO, NOT OKC.  We can't let them progress.

One day, this country will be in shambles.  And I will be laughing at all you people stuck in this ****hole you call a country.



And what country is it, exactly, you live in?

Wow.  This just affirms my opinion of people from down the pike.  You guys can keep your crappy NBA franchise and name it OKC Whatevers.  I won't follow or participate economically in it.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: HazMatCFO on July 05, 2008, 11:36:43 am
My vote is the Noodlers...

You could have a giant Catfish for a mascot and noodling contests at pre-game or halftime for big prizes.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: sgrizzle on July 05, 2008, 11:39:19 am
pancakes does "Barons" have to do with OKC?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Renaissance on July 05, 2008, 01:54:31 pm
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

Wow, nice attitude, jerks.  So it's okay for every other city to 'steal' a team, but OH NO, NOT OKC.  We can't let them progress.

One day, this country will be in shambles.  And I will be laughing at all you people stuck in this ****hole you call a country.



All you have to do is name the team the "Oklahoma XYZ" instead of the "Oklahoma City XYZ" and we might be convinced to get on board.

And where do you live, France?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: bugo on July 05, 2008, 02:36:45 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Floyd

quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

Wow, nice attitude, jerks.  So it's okay for every other city to 'steal' a team, but OH NO, NOT OKC.  We can't let them progress.

One day, this country will be in shambles.  And I will be laughing at all you people stuck in this ****hole you call a country.



All you have to do is name the team the "Oklahoma XYZ" instead of the "Oklahoma City XYZ" and we might be convinced to get on board.



What he said.

I'm not much of an NBA fan, but if I were, I would probably watch OKC games and root for whatever team is playing them (I already do that for several sports programs, imcluding one which is extremely popular in thse parts).  It's great fun.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 05, 2008, 03:41:47 pm
quote:
Originally posted by twizzler

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

pancakes does "Barons" have to do with OKC?



What does "Lakers" have to do with Los Angeles or "Jazz" have to do with Utah or "Grizzlies" have to do with Memphis?



Let's see...

First, the Lakers were originally from Minneapolis.
Second, the Jazz were originally from New Orleans.
Third, the Grizzlies were orginally from Vancouver.

Google is your friend.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: bugo on July 05, 2008, 03:57:08 pm
quote:
Originally posted by twizzler

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

pancakes does "Barons" have to do with OKC?



What does "Lakers" have to do with Los Angeles or "Jazz" have to do with Utah or "Grizzlies" have to do with Memphis?



To be fair, those nicknames moved with the teams to their new cities.  The name "Barons" if it is chosen will be first used for the OKC team.  Kinda like the St Louis Rams and the Arizona (nee Phoenix) Cardinals.  Those names never sounded right to me, and never will.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: bugo on July 05, 2008, 06:14:49 pm
quote:
Originally posted by twizzler
However, the point of my post was to show that Barons (as in oil barons) was a much closer tie to the area than a few legacy names in the league. Especially since at least one modern day oil baron helped buy the team.



With gas prices the way they are (that is becoming the big cliche of the late 00s), I don't think I would want to associate my team with oil executives, much less make an oil executive the team mascot.  Kinda like having a team called the "Dictators"* in 1933.

*In the 1930s, Studebaker's entry level car was called the Dictator.  A young man from Austria's actions led to the discontinuation of the model.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: okcpulse on July 05, 2008, 08:16:37 pm
And what country is it, exactly, you live in?

Wow. This just affirms my opinion of people from down the pike. You guys can keep your crappy NBA franchise and name it OKC Whatevers. I won't follow or participate economically in it.


I know what country I live in, and it is being bastardized by a society that is self-serving and over-privileged.  I love America, but I hate what is being done to our country.  There is no unity here.  None whatsoever, and this thread proves it.  

Hey, I'm sorry they didn't plan to give the NBA team an 'Oklahoma ....' name. But I seriously doubt if Tulsa got a pro team using the state's demographics, the team would have been given a state name.  You have to admit that.  I personally prefer the 'Oklahoma .... ' but I can't control that.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: marc on July 05, 2008, 11:34:36 pm
Team franchises move all the time. Baltimore Colts fans, including Johnny Unitas, were angry when their team was sent to Indianapolis. Cleveland Browns fans were upset when the team owner moved them to Baltimore.

I really don't think of Clay Bennett or OKC as robber barons. And I wonder if Seattle had "stolen" a team from OKC if the same fuss would be made, or would everyone say it's just wonderful that the team is leaving a "dust bowl" town for a shining, shimmering, magical city?

It would be nice if the new team could be named after the state rather than OKC, but at least some exhibition games may be played in Tulsa, and maybe some regular season games as well, on down the road when the novelty of having the NBA in OKC wears off a bit. Bennett seems fairly open to the general idea of a state team, while the OKC mayor appears to be more territorial.



Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: azbadpuppy on July 06, 2008, 12:20:30 am
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

And what country is it, exactly, you live in?

Wow. This just affirms my opinion of people from down the pike. You guys can keep your crappy NBA franchise and name it OKC Whatevers. I won't follow or participate economically in it.


I know what country I live in, and it is being bastardized by a society that is self-serving and over-privileged.  I love America, but I hate what is being done to our country.  There is no unity here.  None whatsoever, and this thread proves it.  

Hey, I'm sorry they didn't plan to give the NBA team an 'Oklahoma ....' name. But I seriously doubt if Tulsa got a pro team using the state's demographics, the team would have been given a state name.  You have to admit that.  I personally prefer the 'Oklahoma .... ' but I can't control that.



Actually, when Tulsa did get a pro football team in 1984, albeit very short lived, they were named the 'Oklahoma Outlaws'.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Kenosha on July 06, 2008, 03:32:52 am
Oklahoma City Gaylords


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: inteller on July 06, 2008, 08:46:48 am
quote:
Originally posted by Kenosha

Oklahoma City Gaylords



one can only hope.

How about OKC (grapes of) Wrath


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: okcpulse on July 06, 2008, 09:49:34 am
And when Oklahoma City had the state's only AFL team, it was called the Oklahoma Wranglers.  We also have the state's only Triple A baseball team, the Oklahoma RedHawks.  And in 1995, we had the state's only RHI roller hockey team, the Oklahoma Coyotes.

You guys act as though OKC had never considered the option.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: swake on July 06, 2008, 09:53:46 am
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

And when Oklahoma City had the state's only AFL team, it was called the Oklahoma Wranglers.  We also have the state's only Triple A baseball team, the Oklahoma RedHawks.  And in 1995, we had the state's only RHI roller hockey team, the Oklahoma Coyotes.

You guys act as though OKC had never considered the option.



Hey, how about you stop using state tax dollars to pad the bottom line on your team and we will all feel a little better about it. k?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 06, 2008, 10:36:50 am
quote:
Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

And when Oklahoma City had the state's only AFL team, it was called the Oklahoma Wranglers.  We also have the state's only Triple A baseball team, the Oklahoma RedHawks.  And in 1995, we had the state's only RHI roller hockey team, the Oklahoma Coyotes.

You guys act as though OKC had never considered the option.



Hey, how about you stop using state tax dollars to pad the bottom line on your team and we will all feel a little better about it. k?



+1


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: bugo on July 06, 2008, 04:13:35 pm
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

And what country is it, exactly, you live in?

Wow. This just affirms my opinion of people from down the pike. You guys can keep your crappy NBA franchise and name it OKC Whatevers. I won't follow or participate economically in it.


I know what country I live in, and it is being bastardized by a society that is self-serving and over-privileged.  I love America, but I hate what is being done to our country.  There is no unity here.  None whatsoever, and this thread proves it.  

Hey, I'm sorry they didn't plan to give the NBA team an 'Oklahoma ....' name. But I seriously doubt if Tulsa got a pro team using the state's demographics, the team would have been given a state name.  You have to admit that.  I personally prefer the 'Oklahoma .... ' but I can't control that.



I can't control it either.  But I can control my money and support, and neither will find their way to the NBA via OKC.

And didn't Tulsa have a USFL team called the Oklahoma (somethings)?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Breadburner on July 06, 2008, 04:26:07 pm
Meat Rockets....


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 06, 2008, 04:32:07 pm
quote:
Originally posted by bugo

quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

And what country is it, exactly, you live in?

Wow. This just affirms my opinion of people from down the pike. You guys can keep your crappy NBA franchise and name it OKC Whatevers. I won't follow or participate economically in it.


I know what country I live in, and it is being bastardized by a society that is self-serving and over-privileged.  I love America, but I hate what is being done to our country.  There is no unity here.  None whatsoever, and this thread proves it.  

Hey, I'm sorry they didn't plan to give the NBA team an 'Oklahoma ....' name. But I seriously doubt if Tulsa got a pro team using the state's demographics, the team would have been given a state name.  You have to admit that.  I personally prefer the 'Oklahoma .... ' but I can't control that.



I can't control it either.  But I can control my money and support, and neither will find their way to the NBA via OKC.

And didn't Tulsa have a USFL team called the Oklahoma (somethings)?



They absolutely did.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: azbadpuppy on July 06, 2008, 05:16:24 pm
quote:
Originally posted by bugo

quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

And what country is it, exactly, you live in?

Wow. This just affirms my opinion of people from down the pike. You guys can keep your crappy NBA franchise and name it OKC Whatevers. I won't follow or participate economically in it.


I know what country I live in, and it is being bastardized by a society that is self-serving and over-privileged.  I love America, but I hate what is being done to our country.  There is no unity here.  None whatsoever, and this thread proves it.  

Hey, I'm sorry they didn't plan to give the NBA team an 'Oklahoma ....' name. But I seriously doubt if Tulsa got a pro team using the state's demographics, the team would have been given a state name.  You have to admit that.  I personally prefer the 'Oklahoma .... ' but I can't control that.



I can't control it either.  But I can control my money and support, and neither will find their way to the NBA via OKC.

And didn't Tulsa have a USFL team called the Oklahoma (somethings)?



Um, yes. As stated 6 posts above, it was the Oklahoma Outlaws.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: okcpulse on July 06, 2008, 10:02:15 pm


Hey, how about you stop using state tax dollars to pad the bottom line on your team and we will all feel a little better about it. k?


Me???  I personally did not write the state legislature to extend tax breaks to the NBA team.    But go on and continue attacking all 1.2 million Oklahoma City and metro residents.  Because you know we are all in on the scheme.  Sheesh.



Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 06, 2008, 10:31:48 pm
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse



Hey, how about you stop using state tax dollars to pad the bottom line on your team and we will all feel a little better about it. k?


Me???  I personally did not write the state legislature to extend tax breaks to the NBA team.    But go on and continue attacking all 1.2 million Oklahoma City and metro residents.  Because you know we are all in on the scheme.  Sheesh.





You guys are a bit hypersensitive these days.  Believe it or not, I've been defending the citizens of OKC and their attacks by Seattleites.  What I won't defend, though, is the complicity of said citizens with a jackass of a mayor who wants to include Tulsa in the demographic, but when it's time to name the team, all bets are off.

You guys thought we had a bad mayor?  My vote for 'Most Like Chicago Mayor Richard Daly' goes to Mick Cornett, World Class D-Bag.  I thought Humphreys was bad, but this guy makes Hump look like a Deacon.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: USRufnex on July 06, 2008, 10:48:21 pm
Geez, louise.... who's being hypersensitive here?!?

Oklahoma City citizens voted in March... local taxes are being paid for arena upgrades...

If Mayor Mick would have kissed Tulsa's pinky-ring and agreed that the team should go by "Oklahoma" and not "Oklahoma City," he'd likely lose his job in the next mayoral election...

Last time I checked, Tulsa voters don't get to choose OKC's next mayor...

Many, many Tulsans will go down to OKC to watch some NBA games.  And those Tulsans who don't have that annoying anti-OKC microchip implanted in the back of their heads will actually ENJOY rooting for the OKC team on tv...

If Tulsans approved a couple of hundred million dollars in local tax money to attract an NHL team after approving local tax money that built the arena in the first place a few years earlier, the very same TulsaNow posters currently whining and threatening a boycott of OKC's NBA club would DEMAND a Tulsa NHL club be called "Tulsa" and not "Oklahoma."  And the city of Tulsa would naturally use OKC as part of their market in a heartbeat......

Can we turn down the Tulsa versus OKC vitriol on this subject... please.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: marc on July 07, 2008, 12:00:07 am
quote:
Originally posted by USRufnex



Many, many Tulsans will go down to OKC to watch some NBA games.  And those Tulsans who don't have that annoying anti-OKC microchip implanted in the back of their heads will actually ENJOY rooting for the OKC team on tv...







That is true, just as many Tulsans went to the Ford Center to see The Eagles, The Stones, Paul McCartney, Eric Clapton and The Dave Matthews Band, as well as the Billy Graham Crusade.

And the Ford Center being booked with NBA games might mean a few more concerts for Tulsa's new arena.

The NBA coming is great for the entire state. Sure, it will be benefit OKC the most (by far), but Tulsa will see some benefits as well.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: sgrizzle on July 07, 2008, 07:09:15 am
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

And when Oklahoma City had the state's only AFL team, it was called the Oklahoma Wranglers.  We also have the state's only Triple A baseball team, the Oklahoma RedHawks.  And in 1995, we had the state's only RHI roller hockey team, the Oklahoma Coyotes.

You guys act as though OKC had never considered the option.



We act that way because Mick Cornett basically said it was a ridiculous idea and you just disproved him as much as we did.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: BDP on July 07, 2008, 01:33:06 pm
quote:
Tulsa is upset because they specifically said they had to use demographics from Tulsa to get the franchise but the idea of making it a state team was ludicrous even though something like 40% of the NBA teams are state teams.


I am assuming that you meant to say that only 5 teams (Indiana, Minnesota, New Jersey, Golden State and Utah) in the NBA have state names, and not 40%, because that's all there is. That would actually be 17%.

In addition, the NFL, MLB, and NHL have 5 teams each that do not use city names, for 16-17% of those leagues, as well.

In any event, the reality is that 100% of the teams in all of those leagues depend on drawing from outside of the municipal boundaries of the city in which they play (in fact, some don't even play within the city they are named after) and a lot of them draw from farther away, in both distance and time traveled, than Tulsa is from Oklahoma City. The fact is that it's just not done that often and it doesn't seem like most teams have to worry about offending the ego of its surrounding markets to the point where they feel the need to not honor their host city. Many teams bearing the name of a city ARE in fact that state's team and it's a shame that many in Tulsa seem unwilling to enjoy this new entertainment option coming to the state because it bears the name 'Oklahoma City'.

Given what Oklahoma City has done in order to land this team over the last 15 years combined with the fact that it will play in Oklahoma City, it just makes sense that it would be named after that city. Granted, I guess there are some that have to feel included no matter what their contribution, and it would have been a nice gesture to appease those potential customers, but to insinuate that it is somehow owed to them is kind of bizarre, really.

Hopefully, Tulsa's new arena will attract a major league team and HOPEFULLY it will be named after Tulsa because that city will have earned it and including the name of the city would be the least any owner could do. I certainly know that, even if it gets a state tax break (which I don't think any team should), that having Tulsa in the teams name would be a non-factor in deciding whether I went to watch a game in the beautiful new facility up there. In fact, I think it would be weak to name a Tulsa team after the state. You don't need it and it wouldn’t be the proper thing to do, given your investment. And, honestly, I hope that it happens for Tulsa a lot quicker than it did for Oklahoma City, and, really, it should happen faster, given the better perception generally held of Tulsa than of Oklahoma City.

What's really stupid is how many people in Oklahoma actively root for and support teams in other cities, named after those cities, like Dallas, Kansas City, Houston, St Louis, Chicago, etc. that now say they won't support a team in Oklahoma just because it's named after its host city and not the state. Some here are even going to root against it, because they feel so burned and left out.

It's just so funny what a non-issue this should be, but not surprising when you consider that it stems from one of the biggest non-issues in existence: the Oklahoma City / Tulsa "rivalry".


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 07, 2008, 01:43:02 pm
quote:
Originally posted by BDP

quote:
Tulsa is upset because they specifically said they had to use demographics from Tulsa to get the franchise but the idea of making it a state team was ludicrous even though something like 40% of the NBA teams are state teams.


I am assuming that you meant to say that only 5 teams (Indiana, Minnesota, New Jersey, Golden State and Utah) in the NBA have state names, and not 40%, because that's all there is. That would actually be 17%.

In addition, the NFL, MLB, and NHL have 5 teams each that do not use city names, for 16-17% of those leagues, as well.

In any event, the reality is that 100% of the teams in all of those leagues depend on drawing from outside of the municipal boundaries of the city in which they play (in fact, some don't even play within the city they are named after) and a lot of them draw from farther away, in both distance and time traveled, than Tulsa is from Oklahoma City. The fact is that it's just not done that often and it doesn't seem like most teams have to worry about offending the ego of its surrounding markets to the point where they feel the need to not honor their host city. Many teams bearing the name of a city ARE in fact that state's team and it's a shame that many in Tulsa seem unwilling to enjoy this new entertainment option coming to the state because it bears the name 'Oklahoma City'.

Given what Oklahoma City has done in order to land this team over the last 15 years combined with the fact that it will play in Oklahoma City, it just makes sense that it would be named after that city. Granted, I guess there are some that have to feel included no matter what their contribution, and it would have been a nice gesture to appease those potential customers, but to insinuate that it is somehow owed to them is kind of bizarre, really.

Hopefully, Tulsa's new arena will attract a major league team and HOPEFULLY it will be named after Tulsa because that city will have earned it and including the name of the city would be the least any owner could do. I certainly know that, even if it gets a state tax break (which I don't think any team should), that having Tulsa in the teams name would be a non-factor in deciding whether I went to watch a game in the beautiful new facility up there. In fact, I think it would be weak to name a Tulsa team after the state. You don't need it and it wouldn’t be the proper thing to do, given your investment. And, honestly, I hope that it happens for Tulsa a lot quicker than it did for Oklahoma City, and, really, it should happen faster, given the better perception generally held of Tulsa than of Oklahoma City.

What's really stupid is how many people in Oklahoma actively root for and support teams in other cities, named after those cities, like Dallas, Kansas City, Houston, St Louis, Chicago, etc. that now say they won't support a team in Oklahoma just because it's named after its host city and not the state. Some here are even going to root against it, because they feel so burned and left out.

It's just so funny what a non-issue this should be, but not surprising when you consider that it stems from one of the biggest non-issues in existence: the Oklahoma City / Tulsa "rivalry".




Your first post shows your ignorance on the matter.

First off the STATE is subsidizing tax breaks to this team (which come from STATE coffers, by the way).

Second, the move was sold with Tulsa as part of the demographic.  If OKC had not included the Tulsa Metro, chances are it would not have gotten voted in.  Vis a vis, if OKC had gotten it without that help, then we wouldn't be having this discussion.  Hell, we probably wouldn't be having it either way had mayor 'Dick' Cornett not been such a D-Bag about the whole deal.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Renaissance on July 07, 2008, 02:13:24 pm
These are some insulted OKCers coming over from OKCtalk:
http://www.okctalk.com/okc-metro-area-talk/13335-tulsa-hates-you.html

Here's a reminder of how things went down, so you know where the ill will comes from.  OKCers: please, be our guests and defend Cornett and Bennett aren't giving the rest of the state the shaft.

http://newsok.com/article/3232124
From the Daily Oklahoman, April 18, 2008:
quote:

The name of the new NBA franchise in Oklahoma is up in the air, but it will include the words "Oklahoma City."

Sorry David Stern.

Stern brought up the idea that the team could be called just Oklahoma, because of the inclusion of Tulsa in the market size and the fact it would be considered a "state franchise."

Stern said it's interesting that "if you drive fast in Oklahoma, and most people apparently do, how close Tulsa is and how many citizens of Tulsa will consider the team to be, and did consider the Hornets when they were there, to be a state franchise," Stern said.

"I'm going to leave that to the politics of Oklahoma. I would guess that the current group would be under significant incentive and pressure to make it an Oklahoma franchise, and that would be a good thing."

Oklahoma City already has covered their bases though, including in the letter of intent with the team that the "team shall formally include 'Oklahoma City' in its registered name.'

Oklahoma City Mayor Mick Cornett was fairly stern about his feelings on the subject, too: ""It will be the Oklahoma City whatevers. It will be Oklahoma City. I care much less about the second half of the name. I'll let other people determine the nickname of the team, but it will be Oklahoma City."

Sonics chairman Clay Bennett agreed.

"Our view is that the team should be named Oklahoma City. But it will be an Oklahoma asset. It will be marketed statewide and we believe it will be supported statewide."

Bennett said there is no pressure on ownership group to make the team Oklahoma as opposed to Oklahoma City.



And, a prior thread from a few months ago:
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9739


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Renaissance on July 07, 2008, 02:17:07 pm
Oh and to respond to the original point of the thread:

The OKC Whatevers.  Has a nice ring to it.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: breitee on July 07, 2008, 02:30:46 pm
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

They'll pick something like the "Boomers" or the "Bombers" or  "Thunderbirds" like every school mascot in OKC already is.




How about something REALLY original like "Cowboys" or "Indians" or "Sooners"?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: AgentOrange on July 07, 2008, 02:46:11 pm
I'm sure OKC boards would LOVE to hear this discussion...they think Tulsans are a bunch of jealous stuck-up snobs.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: AgentOrange on July 07, 2008, 02:49:05 pm
uhoh...looks like they already did.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: BDP on July 07, 2008, 02:55:31 pm
quote:
 Your first post shows your ignorance on the matter.  First off the STATE is subsidizing tax breaks to this team (which come from STATE coffers, by the way).


Actually, I mentioned that and that I was not in favor of it, but not because I was worried about what the name would be, but because I don't like this idea that it is sold as a financial booster for the city and state and then they eliminate a big part of what that boost would be. I wrote my corresponding leadership about my opposition to it and, as you can see, I don't have much influence. :) Maybe the representatives from every other district outside of Oklahoma City, which far outnumber the districts inside of Oklahoma City, felt that there was a significant benefit to the state that warranted that break and that wasn't contingent on the name of the team. I guess all of those opposed to the tax break outside of Oklahoma City's limits have about as much influence as I do.
 

quote:
Second, the move was sold with Tulsa as part of the demographic. If OKC had not included the Tulsa Metro, chances are it would not have gotten voted in. Vis a vis, if OKC had gotten it without that help, then we wouldn't be having this discussion. Hell, we probably wouldn't be having it either way had mayor 'Dick' Cornett not been such a D-Bag about the whole deal.


I am in no way ignorant to how the team was sold. I guess you missed the entire point of my post. I was offering some perspective of how these things are done in the NBA and across all leagues. It is no anomaly. This is how ALL teams are sold and marketed, no matter what they are named. All accessible markets are considered in every possible relocation or expansion possibility, obviously, and in all teams’ marketing plans. However, this has led to the naming of a team after the state less than 17% of the time in each of the four major leagues. Why? Because the naming of a team after a city is usually a non-issue and doesn’t acknowledge the team’s host city, the benefit of which clearly out weighs any negative brought about by not being named after a region that includes all potential markets.

For example, do the 49ers market to and make money off the tangential market of the San Joaquin valley? Of course they do. Do people whine that it should be called the NorCal Niners? I've never heard of that. On the other hand, the Golden State Warriors are named after the state, sort of. Has that made any difference? Not much, it seems.

I am not ignorant because I do not agree with you or because I take a broader perspective of the issue than you. Did they use the access to the Tulsa market as a selling point? Yes. Why? Because it is a selling point. It is a part of the team's market (albeit a smaller percentage of their market than the Oklahoma City area), in exactly the same way that markets of similar distance are for just about every team in existence, yet less that 20% of all teams are named in an effort to include every market from which they may draw.

If you or anyone else chooses to make a principled stand against the tax issue, go right ahead. I would 100% respect that and maybe it will help rightfully overturn it. However, is your position really about the impact of the tax break on state revenue, or about what the team is named? If it's the former, then who cares what the team is named as that has no impact on state revenue and let’s work together to get it changed. If it's the latter, then who cares at all?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 07, 2008, 03:16:17 pm
quote:
Originally posted by BDP

quote:
 Your first post shows your ignorance on the matter.  First off the STATE is subsidizing tax breaks to this team (which come from STATE coffers, by the way).


Actually, I mentioned that and that I was not in favor of it, but not because I was worried about what the name would be, but because I don't like this idea that it is sold as a financial booster for the city and state and then they eliminate a big part of what that boost would be. I wrote my corresponding leadership about my opposition to it and, as you can see, I don't have much influence. :) Maybe the representatives from every other district outside of Oklahoma City, which far outnumber the districts inside of Oklahoma City, felt that there was a significant benefit to the state that warranted that break and that wasn't contingent on the name of the team. I guess all of those opposed to the tax break outside of Oklahoma City's limits have about as much influence as I do.
 

quote:
Second, the move was sold with Tulsa as part of the demographic. If OKC had not included the Tulsa Metro, chances are it would not have gotten voted in. Vis a vis, if OKC had gotten it without that help, then we wouldn't be having this discussion. Hell, we probably wouldn't be having it either way had mayor 'Dick' Cornett not been such a D-Bag about the whole deal.


I am in no way ignorant to how the team was sold. I guess you missed the entire point of my post. I was offering some perspective of how these things are done in the NBA and across all leagues. It is no anomaly. This is how ALL teams are sold and marketed, no matter what they are named. All accessible markets are considered in every possible relocation or expansion possibility, obviously, and in all teams’ marketing plans. However, this has led to the naming of a team after the state less than 17% of the time in each of the four major leagues. Why? Because the naming of a team after a city is usually a non-issue and doesn’t acknowledge the team’s host city, the benefit of which clearly out weighs any negative brought about by not being named after a region that includes all potential markets.

For example, do the 49ers market to and make money off the tangential market of the San Joaquin valley? Of course they do. Do people whine that it should be called the NorCal Niners? I've never heard of that. On the other hand, the Golden State Warriors are named after the state, sort of. Has that made any difference? Not much, it seems.

I am not ignorant because I do not agree with you or because I take a broader perspective of the issue than you. Did they use the access to the Tulsa market as a selling point? Yes. Why? Because it is a selling point. It is a part of the team's market (albeit a smaller percentage of their market than the Oklahoma City area), in exactly the same way that markets of similar distance are for just about every team in existence, yet less that 20% of all teams are named in an effort to include every market from which they may draw.

If you or anyone else chooses to make a principled stand against the tax issue, go right ahead. I would 100% respect that and maybe it will help rightfully overturn it. However, is your position really about the impact of the tax break on state revenue, or about what the team is named? If it's the former, then who cares what the team is named as that has no impact on state revenue and let’s work together to get it changed. If it's the latter, then who cares at all?




My point has NOTHING to do with the NBA; it has EVERYTHING to do with taxpayer money I contribute and everyone else on these forums as long as they are Oklahoma residents and pay Oklahoma taxes.  The state shouldn't be funding/subsidizing an entertainment venue without it going through a vote of the people.  Can you imagine what would have happened if MAPS or Vision 2025 would have passed without a vote of the people with the biggest stake in it?

Let OKC pay for it if they want their name on it so damned bad.  I for one am mad as hell that this was done.  I'm actually more mad at our shill of a mayor who pretends to give a plug nickel about our city's residents but instead sells them up the river.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: BDP on July 07, 2008, 03:25:43 pm
quote:
The state shouldn't be funding/subsidizing an entertainment venue without it going through a vote of the people.


I agree with you, except on the small technicality the money isn't going to the venue and it wasn't a new bill, but an expansion of a an older one, the legislative history of which is pretty cloudy in and of itself. Also, your beef shouldn't be with Oklahoma City then, because the state did it. They gave away too much.

But at least we agree that the name is petty stuff and is really irrelevant to the tax issue. And don't think that you'd be alone in your opinion in Oklahoma City. There's plenty of people that think the tax break was/is a mistake.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 07, 2008, 03:29:20 pm
quote:
Originally posted by BDP

quote:
The state shouldn't be funding/subsidizing an entertainment venue without it going through a vote of the people.


I agree with you, except on the small technicality the money isn't going to the venue and it wasn't a new bill, but an expansion of a an older one, the legislative history of which is pretty cloudy in and of itself. Also, your beef shouldn't be with Oklahoma City then, because the state did it. They gave away too much.

But at least we agree that the name is petty stuff and is really irrelevant to the tax issue. And don't think that you'd be alone in your opinion in Oklahoma City. There's plenty of people that think the tax break was/is a mistake.



Where is the state capitol located?

My point exactly.  Tulsa got shunned on I-44 money for years.  Why do you think the majority of Tulsans hate OKC?  Because we see favoritism from state government regarding it.

I wonder what would have happened had the state capitol stayed in Guthrie....


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: BDP on July 07, 2008, 04:10:30 pm
quote:
Where is the state capitol located?  My point exactly.


I don't know what to tell you there. I guess the rest of the state should elect people that will represent their district and not just Oklahoma City. It's not like all of these people are from Oklahoma City.

 
quote:
 Why do you think the majority of Tulsans hate OKC?


Right now it sounds like it's because the NBA team that will be playing in Oklahoma City will be named after that city.

Honestly, I didn't know this was about I-44 money or where the state capitol is located. I thought it was about the team's name and maybe about tax breaks. I am sure there are a lot of "that's not fair" issues that can be latched on this, but it seems I have shortsightedly only included what I thought was immediately relevant. Admittedly, I can't really speak to how naming the team Oklahoma instead of Oklahoma City will right years of alleged favoritism at our state's capitol or improve I-44 in Tulsa, but I'd be interested in listening to some ideas.

quote:
 I wonder what would have happened had the state capitol stayed in Guthrie....


Oh, you know those selfish bastards would have named their team after Guthrie and not the state. [:D]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Renaissance on July 07, 2008, 04:28:01 pm
Here's the opinion of a rabid sports fan as well as a Tulsa fan:

Sports are geographic.  Club names are associated with geographic areas, and the geographic areas are where the fans generally come from.  The old, established clubs have regional or national fans because they have history and tradition and people grew up watching them play and have an affinity for them.

Expansion franchises and franchises that move, more often than not, have to build a fan base from scratch.  To help this, they seem (more often than not) to have chosen state names rather than city names, at least where it was available or made sense, and particularly in smaller markets.  

So in this case, the whole state pitches in to given them tax breaks, and the Commissioner suggests the team be named after the whole state, and the Tulsa mayor shows up to back up the OKC mayor.  We're thinking, hey, looks like this really is a statewide effort.  

And then, inexplicably, once the team is secured Bennett and Cornett do a 180 and name the team after a city, and not the state--but expect the whole state to get on board.  

Don't get in a huff because we don't like being treated like a suburb.  OKC wants to keep the team to itself, but wants the rest of the state to support these efforts.  In terms of fanbase, hopefully this franchise is going to be a lot more like the Tennessee Titans than the Memphis Grizzlies . . . um, but you see where I'm going with that.  Good luck.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Breadburner on July 07, 2008, 04:34:28 pm
Moisture Missles....


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Doug Loudenback on July 07, 2008, 08:11:10 pm
quote:
Originally posted by AgentOrange

uhoh...looks like they already did.


Not a problem, Agent. As for me, I just mainly lurk here on a fairly regular basis, and enjoy reading what Tulsans have to say.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Doug Loudenback on July 07, 2008, 08:19:48 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse



Hey, how about you stop using state tax dollars to pad the bottom line on your team and we will all feel a little better about it. k?


Me???  I personally did not write the state legislature to extend tax breaks to the NBA team.    But go on and continue attacking all 1.2 million Oklahoma City and metro residents.  Because you know we are all in on the scheme.  Sheesh.


You guys are a bit hypersensitive these days.  Believe it or not, I've been defending the citizens of OKC and their attacks by Seattleites.  What I won't defend, though, is the complicity of said citizens with a jackass of a mayor who wants to include Tulsa in the demographic, but when it's time to name the team, all bets are off.

You guys thought we had a bad mayor?  My vote for 'Most Like Chicago Mayor Richard Daly' goes to Mick Cornett, World Class D-Bag.  I thought Humphreys was bad, but this guy makes Hump look like a Deacon.


Thanks for the defense, Hoss. As for my mayor, I have a different opinion than yours: http://dougdawg.blogspot.com/2008/07/three-amigos.html


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: FOTD on July 07, 2008, 08:50:22 pm
The Terror....????

Is that in bad taste?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: AgentOrange on July 09, 2008, 03:28:21 pm
quote:
The Terror....????


Almost as in bad taste as "Bombers".

Any news from Dustbowl City about a name?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Breadburner on July 09, 2008, 04:28:33 pm
"Flying Dick Wheels"


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Doug Loudenback on July 09, 2008, 04:31:39 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Breadburner

"Flying Dick Wheels"


Might not be such a bad idea. Can you imagine the terror striking through other teams' anatomies when the mascot takes a turn on the arena floor? [:D]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: santalar on July 09, 2008, 07:00:06 pm
Oklahoma Okies.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: waterboy on July 09, 2008, 07:03:10 pm
Ahhh, such fine imagery.[:D]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: AgentOrange on July 10, 2008, 01:02:41 pm
http://www.okctalk.com/okc-metro-area-talk/13335-tulsa-hates-you.html (http://"http://www.okctalk.com/okc-metro-area-talk/13335-tulsa-hates-you.html")


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 10, 2008, 01:31:34 pm
quote:
Originally posted by AgentOrange

http://www.okctalk.com/okc-metro-area-talk/13335-tulsa-hates-you.html (http://"http://www.okctalk.com/okc-metro-area-talk/13335-tulsa-hates-you.html")



Welcome to last week...

[:D]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: sgrizzle on July 10, 2008, 02:40:24 pm
I like "it's our tax dollars, why are they complaining"

Apparently they only read part of the news. With all of the state tax money and tax breaks going to his team they can't claim to be on an island. not to mention the fact the NBA stated that OKC can't support the team without Tulsa.

We're not jealous, we just think that if the whole state supports the team the OKC mayor should quit telling the rest of the state to piss off.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Townsend on July 10, 2008, 03:11:02 pm
One of them would rather have the cultural center over the big naked indian.  That means he still thinks there's going to be a big naked indian.

Name - Oklahoma Natives


BTW - that is not meant to be offensive.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 10, 2008, 03:41:11 pm
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

I like "it's our tax dollars, why are they complaining"

Apparently they only read part of the news. With all of the state tax money and tax breaks going to his team they can't claim to be on an island. not to mention the fact the NBA stated that OKC can't support the team without Tulsa.

We're not jealous, we just think that if the whole state supports the team the OKC mayor should quit telling the rest of the state to piss off.



Meh, doesn't matter to me anymore.  I visited enough in OKC while I was married (the ex was from there and had most of her family there) to know what kind of place it is and people that live in it.

They'll always see us as trying to copy them, we'll always see them as a festering craphole [^]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: cannon_fodder on July 10, 2008, 03:51:15 pm
It would be kind of fun if they were the "Boomers."

My money is on some lame "new age" name akin to the "Yard Dawgz" or other idiotic names.  "Shockers" It could also be something lame like "Panthers" or "Tigers."  

I hope it is something Oklahoma or at least Oklahoma City centric.  My suggestions:
Tornadoes
Coomer's
Wildcats (Wildcaters)
Roughnecks  

Other's I have heard that are OK:
Cyclones
Outlaws
Natives (good try, but still lame)
Okies (mixed on that one)


It's also pointed out that the team name sounds better as "Oklahoma whatever" as "Oklahoma City Whatever" is just cumbersome.  "New York City Mets" just doesn't sound right.

Also also pointed out that Outlaws, Oilers (suggested in the Daily Oklahman) and Roughnecks are Tulsa associated names.   And finally, the Seattle sites are more fun to visit on potential names than the OKC ones (favorite:  The Temps - because as soon as something better comes up they're outta there).


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Gaspar on July 10, 2008, 03:56:21 pm
Tulsa Tractors
Tulsa Rustlers
Tulsa Ice Storm
The Tulsa Streets (that's an extra scary name)
The Tulsa Taxes (ooh that one too)
Tulsa Chicken Poop Flingers

Ok, I'm just getting tired now.






Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Townsend on July 10, 2008, 04:13:45 pm
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

It would be kind of fun if they were the "Boomers."

My money is on some lame "new age" name akin to the "Yard Dawgz" or other idiotic names.  "Shockers" It could also be something lame like "Panthers" or "Tigers."  




Well "Shockers" would be acceptable as long as we had the corresponding enlarged sponge hand to wear.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: mrB on July 10, 2008, 08:00:11 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

Let's have some fun, and suggest names for the relocating Oklahoma NBA team...



OKC Bawlers

Main Entry: bawl  
Function: verb  
intransitive verb
1 : to cry out loudly and unrestrainedly
2 : to cry loudly : wail
transitive verb
: to cry out at the top of one's voice
— bawl·er noun  




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Image is for entertainment only! Apologies given to Midway Amusement Games, LLC


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: mrB on July 10, 2008, 08:19:18 pm
I guess the mascot is for another thread. However, I didn't know the 'Seattle Sonics' mascot was SQUATCH (http://"http://www.nba.com/oklahomacity/#/experience/squatch"). The new owners could save some cash and use the same mascot. We all know the same creature exists in our dark woods.

Recent reports from Tahlequah, OK (http://"http://strangestate.blogspot.com/2008/07/recent-reports-from-tahlequah-ok.html")

Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization (BFRO)
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/state_listing.asp?state=ok
http://www.bfro.net/gdb/#usa


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: perspicuity85 on July 11, 2008, 03:11:28 pm
quote:
Originally posted by AgentOrange

I'm sure OKC boards would LOVE to hear this discussion...they think Tulsans are a bunch of jealous stuck-up snobs.



First off, OKC people think anyone that didn't have their wedding reception at Golden Corral is a stuck-up snob.

On the flip side, I must agree with them on the NBA naming thing.  Of course OKC wants to dissociate from the negative state of Oklahoma stereotypes.  Acknowledging that the stereotypes even exist is a step in the right direction for OKC.  Usually, the OKC people I meet are soooo proud to be Oklahomans, and think Oklahoma is a wonderful state (despite the low education spending, teen pregnancy stats, meth use, radical right-wing religions, poverty, etc.)  I was born and raised in Tulsa, and have quite frankly wished many times that Tulsa could pull-off some type of West Berlin move and secede into Missouri or something.  I'm certainly not alone in that opinion, either.

That being said, I think it's a perfectly logical business decision for OKC to name the team "Oklahoma City".  After all, the Hornets sold out almost every game in OKC and were called New Orleans/OKC, not New Orleans/Oklahoma.  The city as a whole is using the NBA team as a marketing vehicle.  Yes, people in Tulsa are kinda pissed, and rightfully so, given the state tax funding of the NBA franchise, but in reality Tulsa would do the exact same thing.

As a proponent of Tulsa's Downtown and otherwise urban development, I'm glad OKC is moving so far up in the world.  This should teach Tulsa a valuable lesson of being a leader rather than a follower.  If Tulsa wants to pass OKC in terms of economic and urban development, it needs to focus on getting ahead instead of getting even.  I'll conclude with a great Vince Lombardi quote:

"You'll never get ahead of anyone as long as you try to get even with him."


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: cannon_fodder on July 11, 2008, 03:56:57 pm
My only gripe on the NBA team is the State taxes being spent on pro-sports.

I'm a bit irritated by courting Tulsa support for the team and then writing us off so directly, but I really don't care that much.

Most Tulsans, including most here, think OKC has done a good job getting many areas up to par.  We think Tulsa has done a poor job in the same period of time.  Not many arguments on that.

Also, some angst is reserved for OKC for the tax disparity.  I am jealous of the government jobs they enjoy and the net tax bennefit the State provides them (of every dollar OKC send to the State they get back more than $1).  It seems their ballparks, development areas (Bricktown) and economic initiatives (GM plant) get State support where we have to pay our own way.  It seems they get new highways as ours fall apart. Readily free access into and out of OKC, toll roads for Tulsa.  Medical centers for OKC, no public ones for Tulsa.  4 year college funding for OKC... and on and on.

Of the perceived funding disparity, I am a bit agitated.  

So Kudos to OKC getting the team, my angst in that regard is only reserved so far as State money is concerned.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Friendly Bear on July 11, 2008, 08:57:09 pm
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

My only gripe on the NBA team is the State taxes being spent on pro-sports.

I'm a bit irritated by courting Tulsa support for the team and then writing us off so directly, but I really don't care that much.

Most Tulsans, including most here, think OKC has done a good job getting many areas up to par.  We think Tulsa has done a poor job in the same period of time.  Not many arguments on that.

Also, some angst is reserved for OKC for the tax disparity.  I am jealous of the government jobs they enjoy and the net tax bennefit the State provides them (of every dollar OKC send to the State they get back more than $1).  It seems their ballparks, development areas (Bricktown) and economic initiatives (GM plant) get State support where we have to pay our own way.  It seems they get new highways as ours fall apart. Readily free access into and out of OKC, toll roads for Tulsa.  Medical centers for OKC, no public ones for Tulsa.  4 year college funding for OKC... and on and on.

Of the perceived funding disparity, I am a bit agitated.  

So Kudos to OKC getting the team, my angst in that regard is only reserved so far as State money is concerned.



Okay, CannonFodder, you've convinced me of a name:

The Oklahoma Goobermint.

It's what OKC is ALL about.

And, while you are quite correct that OKC gets much, much more in the way of state funding for hospitals, Goobermint Offices, Free Highways instead of Tollways, etc., Tulsa's ruling elite does get something in return........

That is....

NON-INTERFERENCE.

They get to run the Banana Republic of Tulsa just the way they have run it for over 50 years, without ANY outside interference.

It's the Tulsa Premium.

And, we pay the Freight.


[:P]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: broncosfan2123 on July 12, 2008, 02:49:13 pm
What is the deal with many people "hating" Oklahoma?  Living here I find it exciting to get a professional team, but a large majority of Oklahomans had nothing to do with moving the team.  Why don't you save your hatred for those who were instrumental in moving the team and leave the rest of us alone?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: bugo on July 13, 2008, 03:22:52 am
quote:
Originally posted by perspicuity85
I was born and raised in Tulsa, and have quite frankly wished many times that Tulsa could pull-off some type of West Berlin move and secede into Missouri or something.  I'm certainly not alone in that opinion, either.


Bring back the State of Sequoyah.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: bugo on July 13, 2008, 03:23:45 am
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

My only gripe on the NBA team is the State taxes being spent on pro-sports.

I'm a bit irritated by courting Tulsa support for the team and then writing us off so directly, but I really don't care that much.

Most Tulsans, including most here, think OKC has done a good job getting many areas up to par.  We think Tulsa has done a poor job in the same period of time.  Not many arguments on that.

Also, some angst is reserved for OKC for the tax disparity.  I am jealous of the government jobs they enjoy and the net tax bennefit the State provides them (of every dollar OKC send to the State they get back more than $1).  It seems their ballparks, development areas (Bricktown) and economic initiatives (GM plant) get State support where we have to pay our own way.  It seems they get new highways as ours fall apart. Readily free access into and out of OKC, toll roads for Tulsa.  Medical centers for OKC, no public ones for Tulsa.  4 year college funding for OKC... and on and on.

Of the perceived funding disparity, I am a bit agitated.  

So Kudos to OKC getting the team, my angst in that regard is only reserved so far as State money is concerned.



Okay, CannonFodder, you've convinced me of a name:

The Oklahoma Goobermint.

It's what OKC is ALL about.




How about the Oklahoma City Bureaucrats?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: bugo on July 13, 2008, 03:26:44 am
quote:
Originally posted by BDP
For example, do the 49ers market to and make money off the tangential market of the San Joaquin valley? Of course they do. Do people whine that it should be called the NorCal Niners? I've never heard of that. On the other hand, the Golden State Warriors are named after the state, sort of. Has that made any difference? Not much, it seems.



The difference here is that the San Francisco market is much bigger than the Oklahoma City market.  The 49ers can survive without the rest of California.  A team in a small market like Oklahoma City cannot survive on support from just the metro area.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: okcpulse on July 14, 2008, 06:30:58 am
quote:
It seems their ballparks, development areas (Bricktown) and economic initiatives (GM plant) get State support where we have to pay our own way.


Ballparks getting state support???  Exactly at what point did the state pony up the dough for the Bricktown Ballpark and the Ford Center?  Or Bricktown development?  It didn't, that was local city sales tax, my friend.  We paid our own way with MAPS.  Please stop getting that confused.

As for economic initiatives, I do agree.  Those get state support.  But didn't most of Tulsa's manufacturing get state support (AA, Whirlpool, Google, etc.)?

BTW, there is more to OKC than Bricktown.  Many locals are beginning to lean toward the Arts District, Automobile Alley and MidTown for their nightlife fix.  Property owners in Bricktown are getting a tad greedy, and it's killing business.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 14, 2008, 07:50:13 am
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse


BTW, there is more to OKC than Bricktown.  Many locals are beginning to lean toward the Arts District, Automobile Alley and MidTown for their nightlife fix.  Property owners in Bricktown are getting a tad greedy, and it's killing business.



Wait, what? Problems in the Holy Bricktown? Do tell!  All that taxpayer life support and the extreme ugliness of OKC is 'killing business'? Or are folks down there too cheap? Woo-hoo! Thanks for the insight Trapped-in-Grosstown!


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: mrB on July 17, 2008, 12:59:47 pm
quote:

 General News

NBA gear arrives for nameless OKC team
July 17, 2008

OKLAHOMA CITY – The sports apparel shop where Colby Ousley works was one of the first places to get new NBA T-shirts featuring Oklahoma City on the front.

There’s still a big question on the minds of Ousley and others who are eager for the NBA to make its official arrival in the city, though.

“I’m anxious to know what they’re finally going to be. The colors, nobody knows anything about that,� said Ousley, a 19-year-old who’s studying athletic training at the University of Central Oklahoma.

A single rack of black T-shirts featuring the white logo from the team’s summer league jerseys and the word Oklahoma City was set up next to the cash register Wednesday at the Hibbett Sports store in the Quail Springs Mall in northern Oklahoma City. Each one was on sale for $22.

But two weeks after owner Clay Bennett announced that he would be moving the Seattle SuperSonics to his hometown, with an entirely new name and look, there could still be a long wait before that new identity gets unveiled.

“I think the team probably has a plan of how they want this to roll out accordingly, and we’ll certainly do whatever they want us to do,� Christopher Arena, the NBA’s vice president of apparel, sporting goods and basketball partnerships, said this week.

“Knowing the timelines that we’re under, I could envision us launching the name first, just because maybe we want to start selling tickets or maybe there are some marketing vehicles that require the name first, and then the logo sometime thereafter, and then the uniform last.�

The NBA expects that parts of Oklahoma City’s new identity might be announced next month, but the final deadline will be late September – shortly before the start of preseason games.

The actual names under consideration aren’t being revealed, but Bennett has said there are several names being cleared through the league and that the team took in recommendations through letters, naming competitions at schools and a contest run by the local newspaper.

“We’ve got lots and lots of names, so we feel like we have absorbed much of the flavor of what the citizens have considered and have certainly put that into the equation,� Bennett said.

Arena said Bennett provided “emotion-evoking words� that will be used by the NBA’s marketing department, creative services group and global merchandising group to formulate a team name. There also are some hurdles with double-checking copyrights and other legal issues.

“He used words that would allow the designer to go down a path that I think will get us there faster,� Arena said. “Certainly, once we have the name and you put the name with the emotions and the feelings and these competitive nature types of ideals that he wants to instill in this team.�

The process for overhauling a team’s logo and colors usually takes 22 months. Arena said teams would need to submit proposals by January for changes that would be made for the season that begins in fall of the following year.

Several months would be spent on designing a logo, then a few more on a uniform design and finally a long stretch of working with retailers who’d be interested in carrying the items.

“I think it’s all just accelerated. There’s nothing that’s going to be compromised,� Arena said.

The shirts with the practice wear graphic are only the first step in the merchandising plan. Caps, imprinted basketballs and replica jerseys will eventually become part of the mix.

But while there’s been much talk about the team’s relocation to Oklahoma City, the rack of T-shirts went untouched for an hour on a slow weekday morning at Hibbett Sports. That could change once there’s something more for Ousley and other fans to get excited about.

“If we can allow the fans to embrace us by showcasing here’s the name and in a few weeks we launch the logo and the colors and then a few weeks after that the uniform, that may be the best direction,� Arena said. “But we’ll talk to the team, and we’ll strategize accordingly.�

The NBA certainly doesn’t want to find itself redesigning the team’s logo, colors or identity in the near future.

“We want to make something that’s timeless and has some meaning for a long, long time so we aren’t going to rush that process just to hit a timeline that we may put on a piece of paper,� Arena said. “We want to get things out there as soon as possible, but we want to do it right.�So for a little while longer, the name will remain classified.

“Certainly, we’d love a unique name but we want our name to be in indigenous to the area,� Arena said. “We want it to hopefully have some meaning to the fans in that area and around the world.�

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Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Gold on July 17, 2008, 03:09:27 pm
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Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: sgrizzle on July 17, 2008, 04:19:32 pm
WIN!


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Townsend on July 18, 2008, 08:01:54 am
First 50 kids get throwing stars

BTW, they made CNN since they're selling Tshirts saying only "Oklahoma City", no name and no logo.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: okcpulse on July 18, 2008, 12:25:36 pm
quote:
Wait, what? Problems in the Holy Bricktown? Do tell! All that taxpayer life support and the extreme ugliness of OKC is 'killing business'? Or are folks down there too cheap? Woo-hoo! Thanks for the insight Trapped-in-Grosstown!


First, let me stress Bricktown isn't dying.  The canal and Ballpark as anchors gaurantee that Bricktown won;t be going away anytime soon, and now that more residents and hotels are moving in, Bricktown won't die.

The issue at hand is the dozen or businesses that came and went in Bricktown.  There are some property owners that are asking too much for their property in terms of leasing, and it is holding back Bricktown.  At LEAST a dozen businesses have opened and closed because of this.

The biggest clubs, restaurants and retail can survive, but those that have gone didn't die from lack of business, it was high rent.  Of course, it isn't long before a restaurant is replaced by another.

I disagree with OKC being ugly.  But that is just me.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 19, 2008, 07:47:18 am
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse



First, let me stress Bricktown isn't dying.  The canal and Ballpark as anchors gaurantee that Bricktown won;t be going away anytime soon, and now that more residents and hotels are moving in, Bricktown won't die.

The issue at hand is the dozen or businesses that came and went in Bricktown.  There are some property owners that are asking too much for their property in terms of leasing, and it is holding back Bricktown.  At LEAST a dozen businesses have opened and closed because of this.

The biggest clubs, restaurants and retail can survive, but those that have gone didn't die from lack of business, it was high rent.  Of course, it isn't long before a restaurant is replaced by another.

I disagree with OKC being ugly.  But that is just me.



You wrote 'killing' which means something is dying.  Inasmuch as Tulsans are looking at a ballpark to stimulate business downtown - and without the subsidized hoopsters - this is verrrry interesting. So we can expect that only the larger businesses will survive?

Names? 'The Hosers' 'Some Call it Capitalism' 'Bricktown Life Supporters' 'Anyone Remember OKCs Baseball Team's Name'


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Bravos47 on July 19, 2008, 12:31:12 pm
It looks like it's the Thunder...

http://www.koco.com/sports/16925692/detail.html




Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Friendly Bear on July 19, 2008, 01:44:35 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Bravos47

It looks like it's the Thunder...

http://www.koco.com/sports/16925692/detail.html






I like the Oklahoma Cyclones.

Or,

The Oklahoma Tornadoes.



Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: sgrizzle on July 19, 2008, 02:42:26 pm
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

quote:
Wait, what? Problems in the Holy Bricktown? Do tell! All that taxpayer life support and the extreme ugliness of OKC is 'killing business'? Or are folks down there too cheap? Woo-hoo! Thanks for the insight Trapped-in-Grosstown!


First, let me stress Bricktown isn't dying.  The canal and Ballpark as anchors gaurantee that Bricktown won;t be going away anytime soon, and now that more residents and hotels are moving in, Bricktown won't die.

The issue at hand is the dozen or businesses that came and went in Bricktown.  There are some property owners that are asking too much for their property in terms of leasing, and it is holding back Bricktown.  At LEAST a dozen businesses have opened and closed because of this.

The biggest clubs, restaurants and retail can survive, but those that have gone didn't die from lack of business, it was high rent.  Of course, it isn't long before a restaurant is replaced by another.

I disagree with OKC being ugly.  But that is just me.



A friend went to bricktown this week and said a lot of businesses (like 20%) have closed since last time he went about a year ago and he was used to 1hr wait getting in to chellinos and it was less than 30 minutes. This was on a sold-out concert night. That would lend credence to the idea people are going somehwere else for their pre/post concert dining & entertainment.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Friendly Bear on July 19, 2008, 03:04:24 pm
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse

quote:
Wait, what? Problems in the Holy Bricktown? Do tell! All that taxpayer life support and the extreme ugliness of OKC is 'killing business'? Or are folks down there too cheap? Woo-hoo! Thanks for the insight Trapped-in-Grosstown!


First, let me stress Bricktown isn't dying.  The canal and Ballpark as anchors gaurantee that Bricktown won;t be going away anytime soon, and now that more residents and hotels are moving in, Bricktown won't die.

The issue at hand is the dozen or businesses that came and went in Bricktown.  There are some property owners that are asking too much for their property in terms of leasing, and it is holding back Bricktown.  At LEAST a dozen businesses have opened and closed because of this.

The biggest clubs, restaurants and retail can survive, but those that have gone didn't die from lack of business, it was high rent.  Of course, it isn't long before a restaurant is replaced by another.

I disagree with OKC being ugly.  But that is just me.



A friend went to bricktown this week and said a lot of businesses (like 20%) have closed since last time he went about a year ago and he was used to 1hr wait getting in to chellinos and it was less than 30 minutes. This was on a sold-out concert night. That would lend credence to the idea people are going somehwere else for their pre/post concert dining & entertainment.



Maybe they are going to the Indian Casinos?



Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: puckbag on July 19, 2008, 03:28:19 pm
Thunder? seriously... I can't imagine many OKC sports fans liking that, given that OKC's most successful sports franchise is the Blazers and their top rival next to the Tulsa Oilers is the Wichita Thunder. What are they thinking?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: TheTed on July 19, 2008, 03:44:48 pm
Stupid singular team names!!!

A minor league sounding team name for a minor league city.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: RecycleMichael on July 19, 2008, 05:13:52 pm
Because Oklahoma City is lower class than Tulsa, I propose we call their team "The Under".


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: YoungTulsan on July 19, 2008, 10:31:37 pm
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Because Oklahoma City is lower class than Tulsa, I propose we call their team "The Under".



Or perhaps since Oklahoma City is more obese than Tulsa, we should call them the "Thunder Thighs".

(Forbes.com list ranked OKC as 8th most obese city in the nation)


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: okcpulse on July 19, 2008, 11:20:58 pm


Maybe they are going to the Indian Casinos?


As I mentioned before, Oklahoma City's more sophisticated crowd are dining in the Arts District, MidTown and Western Avenue.  There is more to OKC than Bricktown.  Not Indian Casinos.  People in OKC don't want Chelinos anymore.  They want Nonna's, or Soleil (both in OKC, not chain restaurants).

But, since you guys find it cute to insult OKC, we'll never stand united.  Don't expect that to change.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 19, 2008, 11:45:39 pm
quote:
Originally posted by okcpulse



Maybe they are going to the Indian Casinos?


As I mentioned before, Oklahoma City's more sophisticated crowd are dining in the Arts District, MidTown and Western Avenue.  There is more to OKC than Bricktown.  Not Indian Casinos.  People in OKC don't want Chelinos anymore.  They want Nonna's, or Soleil (both in OKC, not chain restaurants).

But, since you guys find it cute to insult OKC, we'll never stand united.  Don't expect that to change.



Oh yeah, like those posters at 'that other forum' don't find the time to put Tulsa down every chance they get.

The road gets traveled both ways.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: marc on July 20, 2008, 12:00:05 am
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Because Oklahoma City is lower class than Tulsa, I propose we call their team "The Under".



Or maybe "The Blunder" if fans decide they don't like the name.

I didn't realize there was a Wichita Thunder, I don't follow hockey at all.

But the name will make for plenty of chances to play "Thunderstruck" by AC/DC. And "The Thunder Rolls" by Garth as well, I suppose.

I agree that Tulsa is classier and wealthier than OKC, but I predict the NBA will be a success there. And it will help the entire state, having a big league team.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Breadburner on July 20, 2008, 05:50:33 am
"Thundering Dick Wheels"........


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: chlfan on July 20, 2008, 08:54:53 am
From another site- someone named Josh the Eggman made this logo, doubt it's the actual one but it should be IMO.
(http://www.tulsahockey.net/Rees/THUNDEROGLEVERglow2.jpg)


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 20, 2008, 09:53:20 am
quote:
Originally posted by chlfan

From another site- someone named Josh the Eggman made this logo, doubt it's the actual one but it should be IMO.
(http://www.tulsahockey.net/Rees/THUNDEROGLEVERglow2.jpg)



That's funny.  I know it's not the real deal but it looks like a Sasquatch with horns.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: OSU on July 20, 2008, 11:56:01 am
I like how the logo for a team called thunder is covered in lightning and bison....

I don't like the idea of "thunder" I do like "thunderbirds" but that is a d-league team. I like the idea of the "Plainsmen" which was an idea for the Sacremento Kings when they were in Kansas City.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: mrB on July 20, 2008, 03:04:31 pm
No matter what the name, they keep bawling about it on that 'other' site!

OKC Bawlers

Main Entry: bawl  
Function: verb  
intransitive verb
1 : to cry out loudly and unrestrainedly
2 : to cry loudly : wail
transitive verb
: to cry out at the top of one's voice
� bawl�er noun  




(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2656683723_bee48494c6_o.jpg)


Image is for entertainment only! Apologies given to Midway Amusement Games, LLC


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on July 20, 2008, 03:10:12 pm
quote:
Originally posted by chlfan

From another site- someone named Josh the Eggman made this logo, doubt it's the actual one but it should be IMO.
(http://www.tulsahockey.net/Rees/THUNDEROGLEVERglow2.jpg)



Maybe he's closer to this:

(http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/FilmHarryHendersons.jpg)


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Renaissance on July 20, 2008, 03:16:42 pm
I think Thunder would be awesome solely because they could use the opening of AC/DC's "Thunderstruck" as a crowd warmup, and also Garth Brooks' "Thunder Rolls."


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: chlfan on July 21, 2008, 06:20:31 am
quote:
Originally posted by OSU

I like how the logo for a team called thunder is covered in lightning and bison....

I don't like the idea of "thunder" I do like "thunderbirds" but that is a d-league team. I like the idea of the "Plainsmen" which was an idea for the Sacremento Kings when they were in Kansas City.


Maybe because thunder accompanies lightning and the sound of a herd of buffalo sounds like thunder... ? How would you draw thunder?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: cannon_fodder on July 21, 2008, 07:21:51 am
Thunder:  Lots of noise, but no real threat.  [:P]

I, and every other parent, remember the conversation that thunder can't hurt you.  Unless it's the American Gladiator named Thunder.  Then your screwed.

Really it's a pretty good name (if it turns out to be accurate).  We have lots of thunder from storms, it could refer to a thundering heard (Marshall).  Good enough.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: MichaelBates on July 21, 2008, 02:45:33 pm
Anyone who's seen Cars knows "Thunder" is a putdown (http://"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317219/quotes"):

quote:

Lightning McQueen: In your dreams, Thunder.
Chick Hicks: Yeah, right. Thunder? What's he talkin' about, Thunder?
Lightning McQueen: Well, you know, because Thunder always comes after... Lightning!
[reporters crowd around McQueen]
Chick Hicks: [to his pitcrew] Who here knew about the Thunder thing?



Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Kiah on July 22, 2008, 02:05:11 pm
Nevermind that it's the name of every third girls youth soccer team ("Who are we?!" "The Thunder!" "Who are we going to beat?!" "The Thunder!"), am I the only one who remembers the torrid affair between Superman and Captain Thunder in the 1970s . . . ?

(http://www.marvelfamily.com/images/WhosWho/CaptainThunderII/SupermanCaptainThunder.jpg)


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: marc on July 25, 2008, 05:25:13 pm
Thunder is not a sure thing yet. Other possibilities are Barons, Bison, Energy, Marshalls and Wind.

http://www.newsok.com/article/3274801


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: TulsaSooner on July 25, 2008, 07:25:41 pm
Nobody can break the Wind!


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: marc on July 25, 2008, 09:56:33 pm
quote:
Originally posted by TulsaSooner

Nobody can break the Wind!



But if someone does, I can just picture the sports headline. "Lakers Break Wind!"


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: MarshallBrewing on July 26, 2008, 01:33:53 pm
Awesome, my vote is for Marshalls!  Maybe they would make my beer the official beer of the team or better yet the whole NBA.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Kiah on July 28, 2008, 11:31:51 am
quote:
Originally posted by marc

Thunder is not a sure thing yet. Other possibilities are Barons, Bison, Energy, Marshalls and Wind.

http://www.newsok.com/article/3274801


The Wind would be great.  The only better option might be the Natural Gas.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: swake on July 28, 2008, 11:57:57 am
quote:
Originally posted by Kiah

quote:
Originally posted by marc

Thunder is not a sure thing yet. Other possibilities are Barons, Bison, Energy, Marshalls and Wind.

http://www.newsok.com/article/3274801


The Wind would be great.  The only better option might be the Natural Gas.



I think Wind would be great.

It would finally surpass the “Tulsa Zone” as the worst name in the history of professional basketball.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: bokworker on July 29, 2008, 04:13:25 pm
Not so fast says the NBA....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Poll-part-II-What-should-Oklahoma-City-s-nickn?urn=nba,96375


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: FOTD on July 29, 2008, 04:18:06 pm
Two names! Oklahoma Boom and Oklahoma Bust depending on the current situation......


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: DolfanBob on July 31, 2008, 09:02:56 am
WWLS the Sports Animal announced yesterday that they are the flagship station of the still un-named OKC NBA team. Just announced on air that sometime today a press conference from Tulsa will be about a D-League decision, most likely affecting the Tulsa 66rs. That only makes since.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: cannon_fodder on July 31, 2008, 09:39:14 am
Press conference for a "major D-league announcement" today at 2pm, downtown Double Tree.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080731_2_Anew548843

Owner Clay Bennett, GM  Sam Presti, and the President of the D-League will be there.  

They aligned with the Sonics a while back:
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=4891cb3ba9528d46&ei=sduRSLuGBYq-ywToz9CwCw&url=http%3A//www.tulsaworld.com/sports/article.aspx%3FarticleID%3D20080704_20_B1_hNBAhb591287&cid=1225496505&sig2=rYn8iDg_wxaL0YUAS0Ko5A&usg=AFQjCNHRsYf-bW5bh-Oa6I6Tawq55--K-A

They announced the move to Bixby back in February:
http://news.google.com/archivesearch/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=0-0&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tulsaworld.com%2Fnews%2Farticle.aspx%3FarticleID%3D20080212_2__BIXBY06022&ei=1NuRSNjDKqjG6gGCk7DYBw&usg=AFQjCNGDInJGN5Z7g3Fj4gmCQs2hllairA&sig2=4yO7bLx5EWYhBCoSq2JE4Q

Not sure what they would announce in Tulsa involving OKC and the D-League.  I'm a at a loss and found nothing.  I wouldn't think it would be just 66er news, or the big wigs wouldn't all come and it wouldn't be "major D-League annoucnement."

Whatever it is, the push to include Tulsa in the OKC market is on.


[edit] The Iowa D-League team is called the "Energy" so I doubt OKC will end up with that name.[/edit]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Friendly Bear on July 31, 2008, 01:06:19 pm
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

Two names! Oklahoma Boom and Oklahoma Bust depending on the current situation......



How about naming them the "Clay Pigeons", in honor of team owner millionaire Clay Bennett??


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: cannon_fodder on July 31, 2008, 01:17:59 pm
The "big news" is that the Oklahoma City ownership of their NBA team has purchased Tulsa's D-League team from the local ownership:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sports/article.aspx?articleID=20080731_2__Apres07636

So it is the Tulsa 66er's of Bixby care of Oklahoma City.

Whoopie.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Townsend on July 31, 2008, 02:29:02 pm
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder
So it is the Tulsa 66er's of Bixby care of Oklahoma City.

Whoopie.



I was wondering if there was another basketball team I was going to not go see...well there it is.  Go 66er's of Bixby care of Oklahoma city, go!!



Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Nik on August 01, 2008, 03:40:30 pm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/65516705@N00/sets/72157606440038571/

Most of these are pretty bad and some are obvious jokes.

Here are some of the better ones:

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Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: tnt091605 on August 06, 2008, 05:38:11 am
Team Taylor,  I know its not Tulsa's team but she will want to be Governor some day.  It will be easier to just name it that way now instead of her buying the team and having to rename it.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: mrB on August 06, 2008, 03:13:39 pm
quote:

NBA Hints At Oklahoma City Team's Name
Posted: Aug 6, 2008 02:19 PM CDT
Updated: Aug 6, 2008 03:59 PM CDT
 
The page "www.nba.com/thunder" is shown in the left corner when a user places their cursor over Oklahoma City in a Wednesday afternoon screen grab of the NBA's web site.
 
OKLAHOMA CITY - When the NBA posted the 2008-09 season schedule, they may have revealed a clue to the long-anticipated naming of Oklahoma City's new franchise.

On Wednesday afternoon, users who clicked on Oklahoma City on the schedule page were directed to www.nba.com/thunder. The link pulled up a "page not found" message.

The page http://www.nba.com/schedules/?team=thunder also directed users to the SuperSonics results from last season. Later Wednesday afternoon the page was change to read "Oklahoma City Thunder Schedule."

Team spokesman Dan Mahoney said the link was a glitch on the NBA's site and the team had notified the NBA of the mistake.

Thunder was one of the six names the NBA registered as trademarks for the team earlier this month.

The Oklahoma City Bison, Barons, Wind, Energy, Marshalls and Thunder were registered, according to the United States Patent and Trademark Office database. The names were registered on July 21.

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An NBA trick to throw us off?



Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Townsend on September 03, 2008, 02:59:56 pm
So the name's to be announced today.   Anyone know it yet?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: sgrizzle on September 04, 2008, 06:13:09 am
(http://ap.google.com/media/ALeqM5isH2XjwZYW554-ZhFEVOouvaIWXg?size=s)


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on September 04, 2008, 06:50:12 am
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

(http://ap.google.com/media/ALeqM5isH2XjwZYW554-ZhFEVOouvaIWXg?size=s)



Somehow just anti-climactic

I heard some of the sports talking-heads from the area lament how they thought the logo looked like someone ripped off a loaf of Wonder Bread.  I'm ambiguous about it, really.


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Renaissance on September 04, 2008, 08:09:18 am
You mean ambivalent, right?


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: Hoss on September 04, 2008, 08:39:32 am
quote:
Originally posted by Floyd

You mean ambivalent, right?



Uh, yeah...[8D]

My meaning was 'I'm neutral'.

Never said I was a mensa.  I always get those two confused.  [:O]


Title: Let's Name the Oklahoma NBA Team!
Post by: sgrizzle on September 04, 2008, 08:42:54 am
It's possible I'm ambiguously ambivalent, but I'm not sure.

The reason the logo is crap is that it could say anything above the logo. It could say "Oklahoma City Widgets" and the logo still fits. It has nothing to do with the team name at all.

Here's a high res version for anyone who is bored and has photoshop:
(http://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/6/2687/full/gvn0buivdd9hxvtz19qjrzgfm.gif)