I just saw an interesting commercial about T. Boone Pickens new plan for alternative energy so that we don't have to rely so much on foreign oil. The commercial made me think that it was political with the eye catching stats and with it saying at the bottom of the commercial Paid for by T. Boone Pickens.
A website has been created to further explain "his plan" www.pickensplan.com.
I thought that it was interesting on his website that Boone has profiles on myspace and facebook to get the younger generations involved.
I can save you the time reading the site.
WIND
That's the plan.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I can save you the time reading the site.
WIND
That's the plan.
And Natural Gas...
He is going to drill the
Earth
more to get natural gas. Which will be used to
Fire
power plants and industry around the nation. To augment that power, he is now heavily invested in
Wind
power, notably in west Texas. It is not small coincidence that the Wind Energy Subsidy was passed days after his recent testimony. He also has bought up huge reserves of
Water
and plans on selling the rights to growing areas. All this because he has a big
Heart
for profit.
Basically, he's a corporate Captain Planet.
[edit]added heart, and color![/edit]
You forgot "Heart". But that was always the dork-iest power... LOL
Pickens is a rich idiot.....
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Originally posted by Breadburner
Pickens is a rich idiot.....
oh really? in that case George Kaiser should be infirmed.
Pickens only fault is that he gives more to OSU than they deserve.
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Originally posted by Breadburner
Pickens is a rich idiot.....
Says the poor idiot.
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Pickens only fault is that he gives more to OSU than they deserve.
Jealousy is a *****.
ORANGE!
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Originally posted by deinstein
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Originally posted by Breadburner
Pickens is a rich idiot.....
Says the poor idiot.
Hardly douchestein....
If he'd throw some of his fortune to OSU-Tulsa and OSU Med. Center I would like him a lot better.
Actually millions of the $100 million he just donated to OSU will end up benefiting OSU in Tulsa. That $100 million was used to match other donors who donated to endowed chairs and professorships. That money is also going to be matched by the state. Well part of the nearly 70 million that was brought in by OSU in a matter of weeks was donated to OSU-Tulsa and the med school. So in turn that money will be matched by the money donated by Pickens.
Plus any money given to most of the colleges at OSU can (and probably will) benefit OSU-Tulsa. What I mean by that any money given for endowed chairs to say the School of Business could be used to help lure (or keep) professors in the School of Business at the Tulsa campus as well. Since there is only one School of Business (spans two campuses). The other colleges are the same as well.
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Originally posted by safetyguy
I just saw an interesting commercial about T. Boone Pickens new plan for alternative energy so that we don't have to rely so much on foreign oil. The commercial made me think that it was political with the eye catching stats and with it saying at the bottom of the commercial Paid for by T. Boone Pickens.
A website has been created to further explain "his plan" www.pickensplan.com.
I thought that it was interesting on his website that Boone has profiles on myspace and facebook to get the younger generations involved.
He is not playing politics with this one. He is staying out of trying to influence the presidential race this year, because he wants whoever wins, no matter R or D, to believe in his plan. This is truly a non-political issue. It is an issue that affects everyone.
This is a real plan that could save America from the mess we're in. The site is awesome. I'd encourage everyone to check it out, watch his videos presenting to Congress and outlining the plan, and read the details. Then, sign up with the site and be ready to voice your support to your congressmen. We need our leaders to get behind this and help make it happen.
Pickens reminds me of the character that Richard Gere played in "Pretty Woman" except that I don't know that Pickens has in mind for the finale.
Ex Telex employee.
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Originally posted by safetyguy
I just saw an interesting commercial about T. Boone Pickens new plan for alternative energy so that we don't have to rely so much on foreign oil. The commercial made me think that it was political with the eye catching stats and with it saying at the bottom of the commercial Paid for by T. Boone Pickens.
A website has been created to further explain "his plan" www.pickensplan.com.
I thought that it was interesting on his website that Boone has profiles on myspace and facebook to get the younger generations involved.
He is not playing politics with this one. He is staying out of trying to influence the presidential race this year, because he wants whoever wins, no matter R or D, to believe in his plan. This is truly a non-political issue. It is an issue that affects everyone.
This is a real plan that could save America from the mess we're in. The site is awesome. I'd encourage everyone to check it out, watch his videos presenting to Congress and outlining the plan, and read the details. Then, sign up with the site and be ready to voice your support to your congressmen. We need our leaders to get behind this and help make it happen.
I'm not a fan of ol' T. Boone.
But on this issue, I agree with him wholeheartedly. He's actually taking action, when it seems that everyone else is just yakking or worrying.
Likewise, TBP (he reminds me of Supreme Chancellor Palpatine) is not one of my favorites, but I am a fan of this plan, which by the way has been around for a number of years. However, I don't believe this plan can be the entire solution to our energy related problems as was suggested by someone above, but it certainly appears to be a logical/practical way to begin addressing the problem(s).
Sooo . . . what's he running for? That commercial is put together exactly like a campaign spot, even down to the "Paid for by T Boone Pickens" title at the bottom of the screen.
What gives?
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Originally posted by we vs us
Sooo . . . what's he running for? That commercial is put together exactly like a campaign spot, even down to the "Paid for by T Boone Pickens" title at the bottom of the screen.
What gives?
Governor Pickens? His aggie support, his swiftboating adventures and his oil background makes sure he carries all but central Oklahoma.
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Sooo . . . what's he running for? That commercial is put together exactly like a campaign spot, even down to the "Paid for by T Boone Pickens" title at the bottom of the screen.
What gives?
The federal subsidy on Wind Energy is renewable annually. This year it was allowed to expire (funds never stopped flowing, it expired but funds were still approved until 2009) before it was renewed. Given his investments, a firm federal support of this program will help get him investors as well as better rates. The federal support in general is required for him to get the return he desires.
Also consider he wants to do this on a massive scale. Assistance in land rights surely wouldn't hurt. Nor would access to federal lands or easements to transmit his power.
And finally, it builds public demand for his product. You can chock in an extra $1 on many utilities to buy wind power/encourage renewable energy. If your power generation has no renewable and a few people start asking why they may buy power from T. Boone at a premium to appear green.
T. Boone's chances in politics are about as good as OSU's in the Big 12 football race. He has other business oriented motives IMHO. Either that or he is being honest and is concerned about mother Earth and/or the security or economics of our nation.
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Originally posted by we vs us
Sooo . . . what's he running for? That commercial is put together exactly like a campaign spot, even down to the "Paid for by T Boone Pickens" title at the bottom of the screen.
What gives?
He's not running. He's sunk millions and millions into the development of a wind farm and the company in Germany that builds the huge dynamo generators. He's just advertising for his new investment. He's a business man.
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Originally posted by Gaspar
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Originally posted by we vs us
Sooo . . . what's he running for? That commercial is put together exactly like a campaign spot, even down to the "Paid for by T Boone Pickens" title at the bottom of the screen.
What gives?
He's not running. He's sunk millions and millions into the development of a wind farm and the company in Germany that builds the huge dynamo generators. He's just advertising for his new investment. He's a business man.
Well, yeah . . . but why not be glossier about it? If it's a business, sell it like it's a business. If he's lobbying the government, hire lobbyists where it'll do the most good. The commercial and his campaign come off like it's selling HIM.
I'm not quibbling with his plan; it's good enough, and definitely somewhere solid to start. He just seems to be working the political angle curiously hard.
A possible play for the Republican VP slot . . . .?
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by Gaspar
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Originally posted by we vs us
Sooo . . . what's he running for? That commercial is put together exactly like a campaign spot, even down to the "Paid for by T Boone Pickens" title at the bottom of the screen.
What gives?
He's not running. He's sunk millions and millions into the development of a wind farm and the company in Germany that builds the huge dynamo generators. He's just advertising for his new investment. He's a business man.
Well, yeah . . . but why not be glossier about it? If it's a business, sell it like it's a business. If he's lobbying the government, hire lobbyists where it'll do the most good. The commercial and his campaign come off like it's selling HIM.
I'm not quibbling with his plan; it's good enough, and definitely somewhere solid to start. He just seems to be working the political angle curiously hard.
A possible play for the Republican VP slot . . . .?
He needs to sell himself. The idea of wind farms is not new, the idea of "The T Boone Pickens wind farm brought to you by T Boone Pickens" is what he is selling. He is consistently trying to convince people to let him invest their money because he knows what is best.
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by Gaspar
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Originally posted by we vs us
Sooo . . . what's he running for? That commercial is put together exactly like a campaign spot, even down to the "Paid for by T Boone Pickens" title at the bottom of the screen.
What gives?
He's not running. He's sunk millions and millions into the development of a wind farm and the company in Germany that builds the huge dynamo generators. He's just advertising for his new investment. He's a business man.
Well, yeah . . . but why not be glossier about it? If it's a business, sell it like it's a business. If he's lobbying the government, hire lobbyists where it'll do the most good. The commercial and his campaign come off like it's selling HIM.
I'm not quibbling with his plan; it's good enough, and definitely somewhere solid to start. He just seems to be working the political angle curiously hard.
A possible play for the Republican VP slot . . . .?
This is not about money or politics. Pickens is already a successful businessman. He is trying to solve our country's energy problem. The politicians aren't doing it. He is trying to make it happen.
Go to the site and watch his videos if you are curious about his motives http://www.pickensplan.com/media/. Sign up and help make this happen. We all need for this to happen.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by Gaspar
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Originally posted by we vs us
Sooo . . . what's he running for? That commercial is put together exactly like a campaign spot, even down to the "Paid for by T Boone Pickens" title at the bottom of the screen.
What gives?
He's not running. He's sunk millions and millions into the development of a wind farm and the company in Germany that builds the huge dynamo generators. He's just advertising for his new investment. He's a business man.
Well, yeah . . . but why not be glossier about it? If it's a business, sell it like it's a business. If he's lobbying the government, hire lobbyists where it'll do the most good. The commercial and his campaign come off like it's selling HIM.
I'm not quibbling with his plan; it's good enough, and definitely somewhere solid to start. He just seems to be working the political angle curiously hard.
A possible play for the Republican VP slot . . . .?
He needs to sell himself. The idea of wind farms is not new, the idea of "The T Boone Pickens wind farm brought to you by T Boone Pickens" is what he is selling. He is consistently trying to convince people to let him invest their money because he knows what is best.
You got a better idea to solve our country's energy problems?
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Originally posted by jackbristow
You got a better idea to solve our country's energy problems?
Everyone over 15 in mainland China on treadmills.
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Originally posted by jackbristow
You got a better idea to solve our country's energy problems?
Easy, Tiger. As stated, he's got a good first whack at the problem, and I think we can all agree that we need more of this (ie. problem solvers who solve problems, especially if our elected problem solvers have their thumbs up their butt). I'm just curious/wary of his motives, which to me seem just a tad off. Does this affect the legitimacy or importance of what he's trying to do? No. But it's worth knowing as much as you can about what -- and who -- you're signing up to support.
That's racist. There's no reason the Indian's can't help too.
Outside of Dodge City Kansas there is a large wind energy farm. Owned by KCPL I believe.
I visited for a number of hours a few months ago, and was told by the director of the site that the problem they have is not generating the power, but getting that power to where it can be used.
He stated that often times, the grid is overloaded, so they are told to idle generators.
Seems the work to be done is not only on the generators, but the wires to get that power to the metros.
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Originally posted by jackbristow
You got a better idea to solve our country's energy problems?
Easy, Tiger. As stated, he's got a good first whack at the problem, and I think we can all agree that we need more of this (ie. problem solvers who solve problems, especially if our elected problem solvers have their thumbs up their butt). I'm just curious/wary of his motives, which to me seem just a tad off. Does this affect the legitimacy or importance of what he's trying to do? No. But it's worth knowing as much as you can about what -- and who -- you're signing up to support.
If a person believes in something and thinks it is the answer to a problem, especially if it is a business venture, they'd be stupid not to invest in it.
How legit would Boone sound if he was touting this stuff and he hadn't already been investing in it? The fact that he's invested in this stuff shows me that he believes in it and is backing what he says up with action.
If you're questioning his motives go to his website and watch him talking with Reid and others at the Congressional hearing. Watch the other videos too. He knows what he's talking about.
We need to make Pickens Plan reality in this country.
Jack, read the following article and tell me you still think altruism is Pickens' motive.
http://www.capitalideasonline.com/articles/index.php?id=2513
Two months ago, he was predicting $20/mcf natural gas this winter. He's trying to manipulate the market in his favor, either through a promotional campaign or a Perot-esque independent candidacy. I started a thread on politics if you care to read my theory on that.
Keep in mind, this is the same guy who bribed and bilked Phillips 66 shareholders while Phillips employees lost their jobs.
He's made a ton of money trading energy futures, mainly in the last ten years, and has bragged that he's made more trading energy than he ever made producing it. If you happen to believe that energy traders are as much to blame as oil companies for high fuel prices, Pickens is part of the problem. I think he's about played out his oil options and he needs to inflate NG.
He just about lost his donkey in the mid-1990's because he went too deep on natural gas and wound up having to sell off Mesa to stay afloat. BP has extensive investments in gas and wind. He stands to gain a fortune out of growth in those areas.
Anyone who has had business dealings with Pickens says he's strictly all about himself and maximizing profits. He's interested in saving America, but he's got billions riding on it people will listen.
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by Gaspar
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Originally posted by we vs us
Sooo . . . what's he running for? That commercial is put together exactly like a campaign spot, even down to the "Paid for by T Boone Pickens" title at the bottom of the screen.
What gives?
He's not running. He's sunk millions and millions into the development of a wind farm and the company in Germany that builds the huge dynamo generators. He's just advertising for his new investment. He's a business man.
Well, yeah . . . but why not be glossier about it? If it's a business, sell it like it's a business. If he's lobbying the government, hire lobbyists where it'll do the most good. The commercial and his campaign come off like it's selling HIM.
I'm not quibbling with his plan; it's good enough, and definitely somewhere solid to start. He just seems to be working the political angle curiously hard.
A possible play for the Republican VP slot . . . .?
That will really help....McCain is already facing criticism of his age (72). Why would he ask TB on board when he just turned 80?
He won't run for either, and even if he did make a play for the presidency, the age thing would get him.