The BOA, July 22nd meeting contained a very interesting item.
Item #7, BOA Case #20741.... Shelby Navarro petitioner.
The above is a mixed use development that entails the renovation of the building at 1306 E 6th St.
The variance requested.......... Lowering the required parking, for the structure, to zero.
It was passed unanimously....
Citing that with the existing parking lots within the immediate area there was more than sufficient parking....
Couldn't this apply to the majority of the Downtown area..?
Wishful thinking...[;)]
Below there are two of the renderings of the proposed development.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/rico2/6thandPeoria.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/rico2/Shelby2.jpg)
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Originally posted by Rico
The variance requested.......... Lowering the required parking, for the structure, to zero.
It was passed unanimously....
Citing that with the existing parking lots within the immediate area there was more than sufficient parking....
Couldn't this apply to the majority of the Downtown area..?
Most of the area within the IDL is zoned CBD. There is no parking requirement within the CBD.
I agree with this BoA decision. Off-street parking requirements could be relaxed or eliminated in many neighborhoods.
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Originally posted by booWorld
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Originally posted by Rico
The variance requested.......... Lowering the required parking, for the structure, to zero.
It was passed unanimously....
Citing that with the existing parking lots within the immediate area there was more than sufficient parking....
Couldn't this apply to the majority of the Downtown area..?
Most of the area within the IDL is zoned CBD. There is no parking requirement within the CBD.
I agree with this BoA decision. Off-street parking requirements could be relaxed or eliminated in many neighborhoods.
True dat.
Good call.
This is probably the most 'forward' thing to happen in Tulsa in the last twenty years.
Bravo!
Now, just keep it going!
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Originally posted by dsjeffries
This is probably the most 'forward' thing to happen in Tulsa in the last twenty years.
Bravo!
Now, just keep it going!
Musta been a mistake. I'm sure they'll correct it.
I hate, I hate, I hate the parking requirements. It fills areas with mostly unused parking. What is supposed to be the point? I could understand a minimum level (so they don't overflow to people that do provide parking), but the current levels dictated seem to mandate a done of unused lots.
Between Target and Lowes at 15th and Yale. Behind Dollar General at 27th and Harvard. Behind Staples at 28th Place and Harvard. And on and on and on. Huge lots, often in places that really could not be used to access the stores - but were required because of the retail sq. footage.
Glad they looks past this. I hope they lower the requirement a ton or grant more exceptions.
Shelby Navarro and ONE Architecture are huge assets to the Tulsa community. I wish them success with their projects. They are an inspiration to what I want to eventually do in Tulsa with regard to urban and sustainable design/build.
Won't it be great to see that corridor revived and using existing infrastructure? It almost makes too much sense... Shelby and Rachel Navarro are doing what a lot of people just talk about.
I was on 6th St Friday looking at all of the cool old buildings and wishing someone would get the ball rolling. This is great news.
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Originally posted by carltonplace
I was on 6th St Friday looking at all of the cool old buildings and wishing someone would get the ball rolling. This is great news.
I agree, that strip right there just east of Peoria is great. There used to be a music venue there that closed several years ago, can't remember the name but I remember going there once. The Pearl St. Master plan which calls for a canal to be built on the southside of these buildings and two new stormwater detention ponds for flood control (like the one in Central Park) will help draw more investment into the area. Does anyone know a timetable for those improvements? Also redeveloping houses in that surrounding neighborhood and building more new housing like the Brownstones @ Central Park will be key in spurring a larger revitalization of that strip on 6th.
It would be nice to see more lofts like what Metro and Shelby have been doing in NoChe along Peoria in this area. Great opportunities abound to connect Cherry Street to 6th with urban lofts and a mix of local retail shops and businesses, all with great skyline views (especially anything that goes in across from the cemetery)/
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Originally posted by SXSW
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Originally posted by carltonplace
I was on 6th St Friday looking at all of the cool old buildings and wishing someone would get the ball rolling. This is great news.
I agree, that strip right there just east of Peoria is great. There used to be a music venue there that closed several years ago, can't remember the name but I remember going there once. The Pearl St. Master plan which calls for a canal to be built on the southside of these buildings and two new stormwater detention ponds for flood control (like the one in Central Park) will help draw more investment into the area. Does anyone know a timetable for those improvements?
There was some money in the last 3rd penny proposal for the detention ponds but not nearly enough. I don't know what other funding sources are there but I'd guess state and fed would be pursued along with storm water mitigation collected on our utility bills.
The Eclipse.
Good times.
This happened for the new BlueJackalope grocery store. I wrote about it in UTW.
http://www.urbantulsa.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A24016
Where are the parking lots already in the area? I remember looking at this building and not seeing any parking lots closer than the gourmet burger place half a block south on Peoria?
Won't residents of the area want to continue to use any on the street parking in the immediate vicinity?
This was also an example of how Tulsa makes it "hard to do the right thing." It worked out b/c the developer and the Pearl District neighbors share a vision of the future that is smart and sustainable and human/pedestrian-focused. This allowed everyone to work together to overcome all the barriers and obstacles entrenched in our city's ordinances and zoning codes.
Take a look at Google Earth (or similar satellite photos) and pay attention to surface parking lots. I would guess that 99% of them are less than 50% full at any given time (not counting car dealerships, where every space is filled).
It seems that we zone for parking lots based on the needs of "weekend before Christmas" shoppers. We lay waste to thousands of acres of land, because 5 days out of the year, there might be a chance that the capacity is needed....assuming, of course, single-occupancy vehicles.
In the meantime, throughout the entire year, the parking requirements make it impossible for our retail and commercial areas to be pedestrian and transit-friendly. Thus, people have to drive...thus, more cars are needed. Thus more asphalt must be laid, and left to wait around for that one day a year when a car might actually sit upon that wasted 150 SF of space (per parking spot)!
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Originally posted by JoeMommaBlake
The Eclipse.
Good times.
I used to go there when it was Nitro.
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Originally posted by SXSW
It would be nice to see more lofts like what Metro and Shelby have been doing in NoChe along Peoria in this area.
NoChe is not the name of that area, no matter how hard the Metro Lofts ho's try to make it so.
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Originally posted by Double A
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Originally posted by SXSW
It would be nice to see more lofts like what Metro and Shelby have been doing in NoChe along Peoria in this area.
NoChe is not the name of that area, no matter how hard the Metro Lofts ho's try to make it so.
"ho's"... pancakes? seems harsh...
Ask Shelby Navarro about getting stiffed by them.
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Originally posted by Double A
Ask Shelby Navarro about getting stiffed by them.
hos and stiffing? that sounds kinky.
I agree, NoChe is kinda dumb. It really should just be the Cherry Street neighborhood. I've heard some people call the neighborhood north of Cherry Street, north of the BA and south of 11th, Benedict Park and others have called it the "Hillcrest" neighborhood. Curious where the Pearl district begins/ends and Cherry Street and Benedict Park/Hillcrest begins/ends.
The neighborhood association is named the Cherry St. Village Neighborhood association. Their newsletter is the Cherry St. Village Voice. The neighborhood north of the B.A. is Forrest Orchard.
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Originally posted by PonderInc
It seems that we zone for parking lots based on the needs of "weekend before Christmas" shoppers. We lay waste to thousands of acres of land, because 5 days out of the year, there might be a chance that the capacity is needed....assuming, of course, single-occupancy vehicles.
In the meantime, throughout the entire year, the parking requirements make it impossible for our retail and commercial areas to be pedestrian and transit-friendly. Thus, people have to drive...thus, more cars are needed. Thus more asphalt must be laid, and left to wait around for that one day a year when a car might actually sit upon that wasted 150 SF of space (per parking spot)!
The City requires much more than 150 square feet of all-weather, dust-free, hard surface paving material per off-street parking space. At the bare minimum, each perpendicular parking space requires 255 square feet of paving. Each off-street parallel parking space requires a minimum of 348 square feet.
On-street parking at the curb saves the space of the access lanes (because the traffic lanes themselves serve that purpose), the curb cuts, and the driveways necessary for off-street parking lots. On-street parallel parking at the curb requires about 200 square feet per space. 45 degree angled parking on-street at the curb requires about 225 square feet per space.
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Originally posted by Double A
NoChe is not the name of that area...
NoShi ! [;)]
Club Nitro. Baby M.
NoChe? Whaa?
Nacho.
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Originally posted by Kenosha
Club Nitro. Baby M.
NoChe? Whaa?
Nacho.
Illegitimate Sons of Jackie O., Crazy George Usden, Bunnies of Doom, Pit Bulls on Crack, those were the days. Oh, the fond (fuzzy)memories of my misspent youth[:D]
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Originally posted by SXSW
... Curious where the Pearl district begins/ends and Cherry Street and Benedict Park/Hillcrest begins/ends.
The Pearl District (//%22http://www.tulsapearl.com/map_Pearl_District.html%22) boundaries are IDL to the west/244 to the north/Utica to the east/11th St. to the south.