Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Chicken Little on September 08, 2008, 07:39:37 pm
From NY Times (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/"): quote:
Palin’s Bailout Statement Raises Questions
Did Sarah Palin know what she was talking about when she made her first major statement on domestic economic policy?
In a campaign stop in Colorado Springs over the weekend, Ms. Palin addressed the biggest issue of the day – the government takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
“They’ve gotten too big and too expensive to taxpayers,” said Ms. Palin, referring to the two entities. “The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.”
But what did she mean?...[more] (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/")
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: tim huntzinger on September 08, 2008, 07:55:18 pm
From The People's Cube: (http://"http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2280")
'Environmental shocker: Palin's cat seen scratching claws on rare Alaskan pine tree.'
'Palin's dog caught rooting in neighbor's trash.'
'New York Times enters Guinness Book of Records by fitting 807,316 Palin stories on front page.
MORE (http://"http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2280")
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Friendly Bear on September 08, 2008, 08:05:24 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little
From NY Times (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/"):
quote:
Palin’s Bailout Statement Raises Questions
Did Sarah Palin know what she was talking about when she made her first major statement on domestic economic policy?
In a campaign stop in Colorado Springs over the weekend, Ms. Palin addressed the biggest issue of the day – the government takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
“They’ve gotten too big and too expensive to taxpayers,” said Ms. Palin, referring to the two entities. “The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.”
But what did she mean?...[more] (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/")
Fannie and Freddie are under a U.S. Government Conservatorship as of this weekend. And, their shareholders are wiped out. Stock sold for $7 per share last Friday. Sold for 73 cents today. Down 89% in one trading day. I'd say they are now part of the U.S. Government. Exactly right.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Hoss on September 08, 2008, 08:44:41 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little
From NY Times (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/"):
quote:
Palin’s Bailout Statement Raises Questions
Did Sarah Palin know what she was talking about when she made her first major statement on domestic economic policy?
In a campaign stop in Colorado Springs over the weekend, Ms. Palin addressed the biggest issue of the day – the government takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
“They’ve gotten too big and too expensive to taxpayers,” said Ms. Palin, referring to the two entities. “The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.”
But what did she mean?...[more] (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/")
Fannie and Freddie are under a U.S. Government Conservatorship as of this weekend.
And, their shareholders are wiped out.
Stock sold for $7 per share last Friday.
Sold for 73 cents today. Down 89% in one trading day.
I'd say they are now part of the U.S. Government.
Exactly right.
Spin, spin , spin... Did you hear the speech? She made it sound like it's been a burden on taxpayers all this time. Is all this time as of this weekend? Keep telling' yourself that. [}:)]
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Chicken Little on September 08, 2008, 08:48:28 pm
Palin does not seem to know a thing about how Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac operate. She seemingly knows nothing about the bailout. Why do I know more about this liquidity crisis than the person who wants to be VP? They don't need to be smaller, they aren't government. She dusted off some cliche she found in Reagan's sock drawer and offered it up as a solution. That's scary.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are run as private businesses they need to be freakin' solvent. They aren't and it's a VERY serious problem. Is this the person you want on your side in these economic times?
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Rico on September 08, 2008, 08:50:32 pm
"The process seems to be nearing completion..."
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/rico2/PalinVet.gif)
[}:)]
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Conan71 on September 08, 2008, 09:28:29 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little
Palin does not seem to know a thing about how Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac operate. She seemingly knows nothing about the bailout. Why do I know more about this liquidity crisis than the person who wants to be VP? They don't need to be smaller, they aren't government. She dusted off some cliche she found in Reagan's sock drawer and offered it up as a solution. That's scary.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are run as private businesses they need to be freakin' solvent. They aren't and it's a VERY serious problem. Is this the person you want on your side in these economic times?
I dunno. I broke out in hives when I heard the Feds were taking them over to make homeownership easier to obtain. Wait, where have we heard of that recently? That hasn't worked so well with the gov't intervening in the free-market of housing. I can get the point they should be smaller. Perhaps the risks should be spread around more. Combined, I believe they back in the neighborhood of $5 trillion in home loans. I don't see where that's sound financially to have two companies backing that much consumer debt, regardless of what it's secured with. In the case of the mortgage blowout it's been over-valued real estate. Personally, I have no way of knowing what Gov. Palin meant. But, with all the vitriol in the media and blogosphere, I'd expect it to be spun in the worst possible light.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Conan71 on September 08, 2008, 09:29:29 pm
"Ms. Palin’s comments on Fannie and Freddie went largely unnoticed by political reporters, who are more schooled in political rhetoric than economic theory. But left-leaning blogs have picked it up and are portraying it as a gaffe. "
Thank God the bloggers are finally on to her. I thought they were going to give her a free ride.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Hoss on September 08, 2008, 09:52:58 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little
Palin does not seem to know a thing about how Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac operate. She seemingly knows nothing about the bailout. Why do I know more about this liquidity crisis than the person who wants to be VP? They don't need to be smaller, they aren't government. She dusted off some cliche she found in Reagan's sock drawer and offered it up as a solution. That's scary.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are run as private businesses they need to be freakin' solvent. They aren't and it's a VERY serious problem. Is this the person you want on your side in these economic times?
I dunno. I broke out in hives when I heard the Feds were taking them over to make homeownership easier to obtain. Wait, where have we heard of that recently? That hasn't worked so well with the gov't intervening in the free-market of housing.
I can get the point they should be smaller. Perhaps the risks should be spread around more. Combined, I believe they back in the neighborhood of $5 trillion in home loans. I don't see where that's sound financially to have two companies backing that much consumer debt, regardless of what it's secured with. In the case of the mortgage blowout it's been over-valued real estate.
Personally, I have no way of knowing what Gov. Palin meant. But, with all the vitriol in the media and blogosphere, I'd expect it to be spun in the worst possible light.
To be expected though; the republicans do the same with anything Obama says. How about the 'surge is working better' remark. How about his so-called 'Muslim' faith. The fact he didn't wear a flag pin on a few occasions. I know I harp on this, but when the right complains they're getting a bad deal from either the MSM or the bloggers, remember it all works conversely.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: USRufnex on September 08, 2008, 09:56:10 pm
Well, it IS a gaffe.
Plain and simple.
Kind of hard to argue with a statement that is simply FALSE, no matter how you slice it.
And God knows, Republican apologist bloggers and THEIR MEDIA and talking heads will find a way to justify what she said...
and they'll blare it all over the radio every hour on the hour.... and for 59 1/2 minutes in between...
Per usual.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Friendly Bear on September 09, 2008, 03:50:09 am
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little
From NY Times (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/"):
quote:
Palin’s Bailout Statement Raises Questions
Did Sarah Palin know what she was talking about when she made her first major statement on domestic economic policy?
In a campaign stop in Colorado Springs over the weekend, Ms. Palin addressed the biggest issue of the day – the government takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
“They’ve gotten too big and too expensive to taxpayers,” said Ms. Palin, referring to the two entities. “The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.”
But what did she mean?...[more] (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/")
Fannie and Freddie are under a U.S. Government Conservatorship as of this weekend.
And, their shareholders are wiped out.
Stock sold for $7 per share last Friday.
Sold for 73 cents today. Down 89% in one trading day.
I'd say they are now part of the U.S. Government.
Exactly right.
Spin, spin , spin...
Did you hear the speech? She made it sound like it's been a burden on taxpayers all this time.
Is all this time as of this weekend?
Keep telling' yourself that.
[}:)]
If VP Palin ever has any questions about financial intermediaries, GSE's, CMO's, derivatives, and disintermediation, which I'm sure you're already an expert about, then she can ask: The Secretary of the Treasury. As former chairman of Goldman Sachs, that's his profession: Finance and banking. He also employs a few hundred thousand Treasury Dept. employees: If they're not too busy checking emails, then maybe one of them can look up an answer for the future VP..... On the other hand, today's Wall Street Journal, America's premier financial publication, seems to think that the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are due to your Democrat pal Congressman Barney Frank: Here's the link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122091796187012529.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks He blocked needed reforms for at least the past decade. Reason: Fannie Mae Chairman and fellow democrat Franklin Raines was raining down campaign contributions to his Democrat pals. And, Frank's palpable negligence is going to cost U.S. taxpayers about $200 billion. THANKS, Barney. Enjoy. [:P]
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Hoss on September 09, 2008, 06:34:48 am
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little
From NY Times (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/"):
quote:
Palin’s Bailout Statement Raises Questions
Did Sarah Palin know what she was talking about when she made her first major statement on domestic economic policy?
In a campaign stop in Colorado Springs over the weekend, Ms. Palin addressed the biggest issue of the day – the government takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
“They’ve gotten too big and too expensive to taxpayers,” said Ms. Palin, referring to the two entities. “The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.”
But what did she mean?...[more] (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/")
Fannie and Freddie are under a U.S. Government Conservatorship as of this weekend.
And, their shareholders are wiped out.
Stock sold for $7 per share last Friday.
Sold for 73 cents today. Down 89% in one trading day.
I'd say they are now part of the U.S. Government.
Exactly right.
Spin, spin , spin...
Did you hear the speech? She made it sound like it's been a burden on taxpayers all this time.
Is all this time as of this weekend?
Keep telling' yourself that.
[}:)]
If VP Palin ever has any questions about financial intermediaries, GSE's, CMO's, derivatives, and disintermediation, which I'm sure you're already an expert about, then she can ask:
The Secretary of the Treasury.
As former chairman of Goldman Sachs, that's his profession:
Finance and banking.
He also employs a few hundred thousand Treasury Dept. employees:
One of them can look up an answer for them.....
On the other hand, today's Wall Street Journal, America's premier financial publication, seems to think that the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are due to your Democrat pal Congressman Barney Frank:
Here's the link:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122091796187012529.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
He blocked needed reforms for at least the past decade. Reason: Fannie Mae Chairman and fellow democrat Franklin Raines was raining down campaign contributions to his Democrat pals.
And, Frank's palpable negligence is going to cost U.S. taxpayers about $200 billion.
THANKS, Barney.
Enjoy.
[:P]
Last I checked WSJ was owned by that republican shill, same owner of NewsCorp (owns Fox News by the way) Rupert Murdoch. Just sayin. [:O]
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Chicken Little on September 09, 2008, 06:39:18 am
Still defending Palin, FB? My jaw dropped when you tried to claim that Palin's earmarks are all good. You still haven't explained the difference between a good and bad earmark...remember, Palin was FOR the bridge to nowhere before she was AGAINST it. Never thought you'd turn into a tax vampire over an ordinary, ethically-challenged Republican, FB. She built a monument to herself that, on a per capita basis, makes our last mayors look altruistic. From WSJ (http://"http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122065537792905483.html?mod=googlenews_wsj"): quote:
Palin's Hockey Rink Leads
To Legal Trouble in Town She Led
WASILLA, Alaska -- The biggest project that Sarah Palin undertook as mayor of this small town was an indoor sports complex, where locals played hockey, soccer, and basketball, especially during the long, dark Alaskan winters.
The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin's legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.
Shilling for Palin. How sad.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Friendly Bear on September 09, 2008, 06:50:35 am
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little
Still defending Palin, FB? My jaw dropped when you tried to claim that Palin's earmarks are all good. You still haven't explained the difference between a good and bad earmark...remember, Palin was FOR the bridge to nowhere before she was AGAINST it.
Never thought you'd turn into a tax vampire over an ordinary, ethically-challenged Republican, FB. She built a monument to herself that, on a per capita basis, makes our last mayors look altruistic.
From WSJ (http://"http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122065537792905483.html?mod=googlenews_wsj"):
quote:
Palin's Hockey Rink Leads
To Legal Trouble in Town She Led
WASILLA, Alaska -- The biggest project that Sarah Palin undertook as mayor of this small town was an indoor sports complex, where locals played hockey, soccer, and basketball, especially during the long, dark Alaskan winters.
The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin's legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.
Shilling for Palin. How sad.
I-44 widening between Riverside Parkway and Yale: GOOD Earmark. OKC Crosstown Expressway Earmark: GOOD Earmark. $50 million Federal Earmark for 3 Tulsa Low Water Dams. GOOD Earmark. Gravina AK Bridge to Nowhere: BAD Earmark. $Billions of Earmarks to fund faux tourist sites, memorials, museums, studies, and junkets: BAD earmarks. Getting any clearer, now?
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Friendly Bear on September 09, 2008, 06:53:08 am
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little
From NY Times (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/"):
quote:
Palin’s Bailout Statement Raises Questions
Did Sarah Palin know what she was talking about when she made her first major statement on domestic economic policy?
In a campaign stop in Colorado Springs over the weekend, Ms. Palin addressed the biggest issue of the day – the government takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
“They’ve gotten too big and too expensive to taxpayers,” said Ms. Palin, referring to the two entities. “The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.”
But what did she mean?...[more] (http://"http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/palins-bailout-statement-raises-questions/")
Fannie and Freddie are under a U.S. Government Conservatorship as of this weekend.
And, their shareholders are wiped out.
Stock sold for $7 per share last Friday.
Sold for 73 cents today. Down 89% in one trading day.
I'd say they are now part of the U.S. Government.
Exactly right.
Spin, spin , spin...
Did you hear the speech? She made it sound like it's been a burden on taxpayers all this time.
Is all this time as of this weekend?
Keep telling' yourself that.
[}:)]
If VP Palin ever has any questions about financial intermediaries, GSE's, CMO's, derivatives, and disintermediation, which I'm sure you're already an expert about, then she can ask:
The Secretary of the Treasury.
As former chairman of Goldman Sachs, that's his profession:
Finance and banking.
He also employs a few hundred thousand Treasury Dept. employees:
One of them can look up an answer for them.....
On the other hand, today's Wall Street Journal, America's premier financial publication, seems to think that the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are due to your Democrat pal Congressman Barney Frank:
Here's the link:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122091796187012529.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
He blocked needed reforms for at least the past decade. Reason: Fannie Mae Chairman and fellow democrat Franklin Raines was raining down campaign contributions to his Democrat pals.
And, Frank's palpable negligence is going to cost U.S. taxpayers about $200 billion.
THANKS, Barney.
Enjoy.
[:P]
Last I checked WSJ was owned by that republican shill, same owner of NewsCorp (owns Fox News by the way) Rupert Murdoch.
Just sayin.
[:O]
Instead of reading the Village Voice, you'd understand the world of business, banking and commerce better if you'd become a regular reader of the Wall Street Journal. U.S. Presidents have for the past 100 years.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: waterboy on September 09, 2008, 07:33:27 am
Before it was owned and manipulated by Rupert Murdoch. Who also owns Fox. Who also owns CNN. Who also owns CNN Headline news.
WSJ is still the best we have for in depth business news and features but you just have to understand as you read, who their master is.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Chicken Little on September 09, 2008, 07:41:42 am
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Gravina AK Bridge to Nowhere: BAD Earmark...
...Getting any clearer, now?
Not really. Since Palin was FOR it. According to you, Palin's earmarks were all "good", remember? Count Earmarkula.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: waterboy on September 09, 2008, 07:58:47 am
Her hypocrisy and lying is on a level with FB. He can relate.
She not only supported the Bridge To Nowhere at $225,000,000 she STRONGLY supported it and worked with Stephens on it until it failed to be funded by Congress. She then read the handwriting on the wall and decided to oppose it and Stephens.
Now I hear her stumping with the lie, saying she opposed the bridge and earmarks in a state that leads the nation in earmarks!! Its being reported as a lie on news networks everywhere but they cynically keep it as part of the stump speech because they have painted the media as being in a jihad against her.
These two set a new standard for cynicism, hypocrisy and falsehood.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Conan71 on September 09, 2008, 08:22:52 am
quote:
Originally posted by Chicken Little
Still defending Palin, FB? My jaw dropped when you tried to claim that Palin's earmarks are all good. You still haven't explained the difference between a good and bad earmark...remember, Palin was FOR the bridge to nowhere before she was AGAINST it.
Never thought you'd turn into a tax vampire over an ordinary, ethically-challenged Republican, FB. She built a monument to herself that, on a per capita basis, makes our last mayors look altruistic.
From WSJ (http://"http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122065537792905483.html?mod=googlenews_wsj"):
quote:
Palin's Hockey Rink Leads
To Legal Trouble in Town She Led
WASILLA, Alaska -- The biggest project that Sarah Palin undertook as mayor of this small town was an indoor sports complex, where locals played hockey, soccer, and basketball, especially during the long, dark Alaskan winters.
The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin's legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.
Shilling for Palin. How sad.
Is that sadder than being a dupe for Obama/Biden?
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: FOTD on September 09, 2008, 09:00:15 am
As KO sez:"stretching the bounds of spin".
Why do Americans put such faith in cronic liars?
Dupes? No! Stupes!
And Conan, you're either playing stupid or.....
Palin's a lying deceptive Beach. Have we not endured such non sense long enough out of the Whitewash House. Palin has NO integrity. The whole world is watching!
Enough!Does she have a person with a fire extinguisher following her, because "liar, liar your pants are on fire" Does she have a personal carpenter with her, because like Pinocchio, she will need that growing nose filed down. The lies and half truths are growing exponentially.
But will the lies make the nightly news?
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Wrinkle on September 09, 2008, 09:41:35 am
Amazing....simply amazing.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Conan71 on September 09, 2008, 09:54:19 am
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD
As KO sez:"stretching the bounds of spin".
Why do Americans put such faith in cronic liars?
Dupes? No! Stupes!
And Conan, you're either playing stupid or.....
Palin's a lying deceptive Beach. Have we not endured such non sense long enough out of the Whitewash House. Palin has NO integrity. The whole world is watching!
Enough!Does she have a person with a fire extinguisher following her, because "liar, liar your pants are on fire" Does she have a personal carpenter with her, because like Pinocchio, she will need that growing nose filed down. The lies and half truths are growing exponentially.
But will the lies make the nightly news?
Dupe Bag...
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: carltonplace on September 09, 2008, 10:15:15 am
Count Earmarkula...that actually did make me lol instead of lqtm.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: pmcalk on September 09, 2008, 11:41:24 am
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy
Her hypocrisy and lying is on a level with FB. He can relate.
She not only supported the Bridge To Nowhere at $225,000,000 she STRONGLY supported it and worked with Stephens on it until it failed to be funded by Congress. She then read the handwriting on the wall and decided to oppose it and Stephens.
Now I hear her stumping with the lie, saying she opposed the bridge and earmarks in a state that leads the nation in earmarks!! Its being reported as a lie on news networks everywhere but they cynically keep it as part of the stump speech because they have painted the media as being in a jihad against her.
These two set a new standard for cynicism, hypocrisy and falsehood.
Let's not forget that she still kept the money, even after she flip flopped on the bridge.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Conan71 on September 09, 2008, 11:47:27 am
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy
Her hypocrisy and lying is on a level with FB. He can relate.
She not only supported the Bridge To Nowhere at $225,000,000 she STRONGLY supported it and worked with Stephens on it until it failed to be funded by Congress. She then read the handwriting on the wall and decided to oppose it and Stephens.
Now I hear her stumping with the lie, saying she opposed the bridge and earmarks in a state that leads the nation in earmarks!! Its being reported as a lie on news networks everywhere but they cynically keep it as part of the stump speech because they have painted the media as being in a jihad against her.
These two set a new standard for cynicism, hypocrisy and falsehood.
Let's not forget that she still kept the money, even after she flip flopped on the bridge.
Let's set facts straight. SHE didn't keep any money, the state of Alaska did. What's new in HuffPo, Dailykos, and Pravda this morning?
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: USRufnex on September 09, 2008, 08:03:30 pm
Showing your true colors, Conan?
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: pmcalk on September 09, 2008, 08:08:47 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy
Her hypocrisy and lying is on a level with FB. He can relate.
She not only supported the Bridge To Nowhere at $225,000,000 she STRONGLY supported it and worked with Stephens on it until it failed to be funded by Congress. She then read the handwriting on the wall and decided to oppose it and Stephens.
Now I hear her stumping with the lie, saying she opposed the bridge and earmarks in a state that leads the nation in earmarks!! Its being reported as a lie on news networks everywhere but they cynically keep it as part of the stump speech because they have painted the media as being in a jihad against her.
These two set a new standard for cynicism, hypocrisy and falsehood.
Let's not forget that she still kept the money, even after she flip flopped on the bridge.
Let's set facts straight. SHE didn't keep any money, the state of Alaska did.
What's new in HuffPo, Dailykos, and Pravda this morning?
SHE took credit for stopping the bridge to nowhere (falsely)--shouldn't she take personal responsibility for keeping the money? I mean, couldn't she say "thanks, but no thanks" to the money?
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: FOTD on September 09, 2008, 09:36:01 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy
Her hypocrisy and lying is on a level with FB. He can relate.
She not only supported the Bridge To Nowhere at $225,000,000 she STRONGLY supported it and worked with Stephens on it until it failed to be funded by Congress. She then read the handwriting on the wall and decided to oppose it and Stephens.
Now I hear her stumping with the lie, saying she opposed the bridge and earmarks in a state that leads the nation in earmarks!! Its being reported as a lie on news networks everywhere but they cynically keep it as part of the stump speech because they have painted the media as being in a jihad against her.
These two set a new standard for cynicism, hypocrisy and falsehood.
Let's not forget that she still kept the money, even after she flip flopped on the bridge.
Let's set facts straight. SHE didn't keep any money, the state of Alaska did.
What's new in HuffPo, Dailykos, and Pravda this morning?
Dweeb. What's wrong with Hufpo, Dailykos, and even Pravda .... all those pubs and web sites and blogs you mention are free press. Whereas, Rupert Murdoch displays unfair and unbalanced news services. And his reach is far greater than those you defame. Sorry you are so afraid of opinions and scared to be learned. Boooo! Hahahahaha....
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Friendly Bear on September 10, 2008, 01:24:40 pm
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy
Before it was owned and manipulated by Rupert Murdoch. Who also owns Fox. Who also owns CNN. Who also owns CNN Headline news.
WSJ is still the best we have for in depth business news and features but you just have to understand as you read, who their master is.
Correction: While Robert Murdoch owns Fox Network and recently acquired the Wall Street Journal, it is Time-Warner that owns CNN. The nationwide mass media is becoming more concentrated in fewer owners; however, it is not yet one gigantic Robert Murdoch monolith. Other multinational corporations own the other major networks: CBS - Westinghouse ABC - Disney NBC/MSNBC - GE Hope this clarifies.
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: waterboy on September 10, 2008, 03:13:59 pm
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy
Before it was owned and manipulated by Rupert Murdoch. Who also owns Fox. Who also owns CNN. Who also owns CNN Headline news.
WSJ is still the best we have for in depth business news and features but you just have to understand as you read, who their master is.
Correction:
While Robert Murdoch owns Fox Network and recently acquired the Wall Street Journal, it is Time-Warner that owns CNN.
The nationwide mass media is becoming more concentrated in fewer owners; however, it is not yet one gigantic Robert Murdoch monolith.
Other multinational corporations own the other major networks:
CBS - Westinghouse
ABC - Disney
NBC/MSNBC - GE
Hope this clarifies.
Why...thank you sir. I am embarassed by the error. Wasn't there some talk about him buying up CNN? The centralization has been hardly covered. (not too surprizing).
Title: Palin Thinks Fannie and Freddie are Government
Post by: Friendly Bear on September 12, 2008, 11:25:48 am
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy
Before it was owned and manipulated by Rupert Murdoch. Who also owns Fox. Who also owns CNN. Who also owns CNN Headline news.
WSJ is still the best we have for in depth business news and features but you just have to understand as you read, who their master is.
Correction:
While Robert Murdoch owns Fox Network and recently acquired the Wall Street Journal, it is Time-Warner that owns CNN.
The nationwide mass media is becoming more concentrated in fewer owners; however, it is not yet one gigantic Robert Murdoch monolith.
Other multinational corporations own the other major networks:
CBS - Westinghouse
ABC - Disney
NBC/MSNBC - GE
Hope this clarifies.
Why...thank you sir. I am embarassed by the error. Wasn't there some talk about him buying up CNN? The centralization has been hardly covered. (not too surprizing).
The legacy Main Stream TV Media of CBS, ABC and NBC are only digging their own graves DEEPER with their flagrant liberal bias and agenda. Don't they UNDERSTAND why their viewership has been plummeting? So much of their viewership has moved over to the Fox News Channel it is simply: STUNNING. Still, they don't get it. But, MSNBC started to get it when they removed Olberman and Matthews from political coverage. Their recent GOP convention coverage was palpably biased. People have control over what networks they are willing to trust, and palpable bias does NOT engender that trust.
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