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Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Admin on October 01, 2008, 01:09:50 pm Two posters have been banned from the TulsaNow forums for repeated rules violations. Each of them had been warned repeatedly before action was taken. The posters FOTD and Friendly Bear continued to ignore these warnings and their actions have led to the loss of their access to the forum.
Please take note that TulsaNow moderators allowed their participation long after many of you notified us of their actions. The moderators took time to review and discuss each of the violations and acted on what is best for the forum and the other posters. Tulsa Now welcomes differences of opinions, but they must not be expressed in a destructive manner and repeated violations of the TOS agreement will not be allowed. Moderators will continue to monitor all threads for inappropriate language and other violations of the forum rules. If you have any questions or want to report any activity to the moderators, please send a message to info@tulsanow.org or a PM to the moderator. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Conan71 on October 01, 2008, 01:41:04 pm Sheesh, looks a lot like Xmas around here. Can moderators be banned for allowing this to go on for so long?
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: tim huntzinger on October 01, 2008, 01:42:51 pm Have they lost posting privileges or viewing too?
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Admin on October 01, 2008, 01:43:49 pm Posting.
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Breadburner on October 01, 2008, 01:50:08 pm Matter of time...Although I will miss the Bear....
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: iplaw on October 01, 2008, 01:51:18 pm AOX, errr, FOTD reincarnates in 5..4..3..2..
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: swake on October 01, 2008, 01:59:03 pm quote: +1 Or +2 since there were two of them, or were there? Pastries for thought Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Conan71 on October 01, 2008, 02:03:16 pm quote: They were, uh, "polar" opposites, weren't they? Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: cannon_fodder on October 01, 2008, 02:11:21 pm They reminded me of my boy. They thought they knew where the line was and flirted with it constantly thinking they would be OK. Eventually, someone had enough of that and came down on them.
I enjoyed some of the bears conspiracies and had fun going back and forth with AOX. But I can't say their contributions will really be missed. And yeah, FOTD/AOX/whatever has been banned several times before... perhaps he will keep his head down in a reincarnation this time. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Admin on October 01, 2008, 02:21:25 pm quote: We have a staff of 4 volunteer part-time moderators plus admin. Considering our site gets 120,000 hits per day, we spend most of the time taking care of big problems like spammers or innapropriate language and tend to try to give posters, especially our long time posters, chances to correct themselves. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Renaissance on October 01, 2008, 03:00:29 pm Were there particular rules that either poster was having issues with? I'm just curious which part of their respective acts finally crossed the line.
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Conan71 on October 01, 2008, 03:07:55 pm FB had been called out many times for his comments on blacks and jews for one thing. He'd posted on a "what I like about the other candidate thread" a very questionable list of attributes to Obama. I was shocked he didn't get booted then. He's got some sociopathic issues on race & religion.
Might have been general trolling on FOTD's part, not sure what finally put him over the top, might just be he's so combative with anyone who disagrees and even the other resident Democrats or liberals on here couldn't stand his act anymore. He'd made some pretty nasty slurs on Palin recently, he might have offended some of the female posters. I'll miss their moonbat routines to an extent, but sure won't miss the disruptions to otherwise productive conversation on here. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Hoss on October 01, 2008, 03:15:21 pm quote: It was like a train-wreck from both of them every morning when I got to work and clicked on "There are xx active topics since your last visit" Wouldn't it be a riot if they were one and the same person? While I make no qualms about my left-leaning stances, FOTD was extreme by any accounts. The Bear, well, the mighty quadruped has fallen. Bless his heart. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Renaissance on October 01, 2008, 03:34:39 pm Gotcha. I never read the political forums unless they're salient to local Tulsa issues so I guess I missed a lot of the nastiest stuff.
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: cannon_fodder on October 01, 2008, 03:42:59 pm quote: You are a wise man. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Uranus74136 on October 01, 2008, 05:10:35 pm quote: I'm with Floyd. What exactly did they do to violate the Forum Rules? Maybe everyone should know. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: swake on October 01, 2008, 05:37:06 pm quote: And Bear is back. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Hoss on October 01, 2008, 06:11:32 pm quote: Won't take long to figure out if they have IP tracking.... Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: swake on October 01, 2008, 06:38:46 pm quote: No, I’m not speculating, it’s Bear’s old forum ID. He’s known as “Bob the Tulsan” other places and I forget what his original ID was here but Neptune made him so mad years ago he came up with the name Uranus74136 as a childish play on words and insult to Neptune and switched. He stopped posting for a long time and when he returned he was “Friendly Bear” and has been for a couple of years now. I had really thought Uranus74136 had been banned back then for making a lot of racist and other bear like remarks, I guess not. When he started posting again a couple of years ago under the name Friendly Bear he was from the start was the same as he always was, he even used to reference his old user name. It’s completely the same guy, he just has multiple IDs and always has had. If Uranus is killed I’m pretty sure he has another even older one but I can’t remember what that was. Here’s to hoping he can’t either. FOTD used to be known as Axoamaoxa, and I also think he was kicked out under that user name long ago. When he was known as Axoamaoxa he was even more combative then he has been has FOTD. He had actually toned down a lot under the name FOTD before election season started. But his blind hate of Republicans got the better of him and in the past few weeks he’s been insufferable, even to Democrats. His user name Axoamaoxa was a misspelling of the Greatful Dead album Aoxomoxoa and FOTD is for a Dead song “Friend of the Devil”. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Uranus74136 on October 01, 2008, 06:42:32 pm quote: Sorry, Mr. Swake. Just a case of mistaken identity. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Neptune on October 01, 2008, 07:04:09 pm Uranus74136 is Friendly Bear, as far as I remember. Also goes by Pluto(something). Maybe more.
Personally I don't mind having lots of planets around. Particularly Uranus, it is after all the bastard retarded brother of myself, lord of everything this side of the outer edges of the Oort Cloud: Neptune. Uranus doesn't even spin on its axis correctly. I, Neptune, would like to congratulate the Friendly Bear for making it to Uranus. Sure, you rode atop of a Chinese missile, and yeah it's kind of a dumb planet, but it was a feat nonetheless. Since neither planets nor bears have zip codes, I'd suggest dropping it. Also, stay over there, the rest of space is mine. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: swake on October 01, 2008, 07:39:07 pm quote: I thought Pluto and BlueBirdPoint were one and the same? Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Admin on October 01, 2008, 07:54:05 pm Bluebirdpoint was also Doctor Disco and something else. I think Pluto was Paul Tay but it's been a little while and my memory is fuzzy.
Ironically, FB is Uranus. I would say they both broke about everyone of these at some point or another: Vulgarity: obscene or explicit content or references Spamming/Cross posting: off-topic or repetitive content Self-promotion: Unrelated commercial content or advertising Off Topic/Thread Hijacking: Replies that are off-topic or intentionally inflammatory Shilling: registering multiple user names. If you feel you have a justified reason to have more than one user name, please contact the Admin first. Harrassment: name calling, bullying or threatening of any kind directed toward the users or staff of this forum Disruption: any activity that disrupts the operation or intent of this forum or web site Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Wilbur on October 02, 2008, 05:18:20 am quote: Dang! Ain't that a bi!ch. Not sure how I feel about that. But I can say, most everyone here has been on the negative receiving end of both of these folks. Their typical responses to other people's post certainly does not promote active debate. In fact, in my case, it made me less active on the entire forum. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Conan71 on October 02, 2008, 10:24:56 am When Aox/FOTD reincarnates himself next time, anyone want to bet he talks about himself in the 4th or 5th person tense?
[}:)] Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Gaspar on October 02, 2008, 11:16:46 am Does this mean we can lock all of FOTD's private threads (where he just spends days posting links to himself)?
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: waterboy on October 02, 2008, 11:19:17 am They were both entertaining. However, I won't miss logging on and finding 90% of the topics and posts with their monikers attached.
Here's a thought. Limit the number or authorship of political threads in some manner or start a separate political forum. It doesn't seem to me that the goals of TulsaNow were to serve as a political clearinghouse. Years back, I complained to the Tulsa World about them not printing my comments in the Call the Editor column. They responded that they received thousands of calls and letters daily. They hated dealing with them. They simply couldn't print them all so they printed representative calls and letters to the editor. Can you imagine?! They couldn't see the opportunity. Their own market couldn't open their eyes. Print more pages of calls and letters and sell advertising around them! Newsprint was cheap! Anyway, this might signal an opportunity as well. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Gaspar on October 02, 2008, 11:38:29 am Open up a Google AdSence campaign for TulsaNow forum. Could make a nice chunk of change every month.
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Admin on October 02, 2008, 12:58:15 pm Google Adsense was netting us $20-$30 a month. We've been restructuring the ads so we haven't sold any new ones recently but just one ad at the top of this page makes more than adsense did. The problem is that we had lousy click-throughs.
The only upside is that we had plenty of cash for cookies and coffee at the "What About Rail" and "Plantitulsa" events we sponsored. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Conan71 on October 02, 2008, 01:36:10 pm quote: I always found their claim of thousands of calls suspect. I always figured people with views close to those of the "call in" editor got chosen. Can you even begin to imagine some of the hillbilly rants they get on their answering system. That said, I've had several written letters to the editor published over the years. I don't remember one which did not make it to print. Friends of mine have had similar experience. I honestly think we will see a slowdown in thread origination with those two gone. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: shadows on October 02, 2008, 03:15:34 pm Under the rules that are cited, in consideration that all things are relative that travel on this highway learning it is very hard to finds subjects of posts the must travel only one lane of the highway going one way.
The Admin of the form is like the editor of the press who is the only one to enjoy the freedom of the press. It is not to be construed to mean that one should be able to post offensive materials nor the Admin does not have the inherent right by ownership to censure or delete or remove any such material and post the reason why it was deleted. As a nation we have carried the sword of rebellion for two hundred years among many of the citizens A simple explanation is needed, “ This section of your post we found offensive”, thereafter such poster could be guided I what was allowed in future posts. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Porky on October 02, 2008, 05:32:09 pm quote: If your getting 120,000 hits a day your getting more than the DrudgeReport so I suggest you turn on your spyware because its all tracking cookies that is showing those type of results. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: MDepr2007 on October 02, 2008, 06:00:41 pm quote: Arnett likes to brag using those unreal hits too, hmmm nah nevermind Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: cannon_fodder on October 03, 2008, 07:40:11 am quote: Drudge hits: 029,855,032 IN PAST 24 HOURS 29 million > 120K Plus, with an active forum it stands to reason that our refresh rate is probably much higher. What's more, the "page views" total I can find on Alexa list 367K page views per day for Tulsa now, with an average page views per person of 8. That's a lot of unique visists no matter how you slice it. http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/tulsanow.org Oddly enough, we enjoy a significant Indian following. No doubt there are bots, but you don't think DrudgeReport and others attract bots? - - - Back ON topic. So it seems FOTD/AOX and the Bear got banished as an accumulation of things and/or on complaints. Do we get warnings of such things from the admin/mods or does it just come to a head? Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: RecycleMichael on October 03, 2008, 08:09:57 am I have been warned by admin/mods.
If you haven't, you write without the passion/reckless abandon/stupidity that I pride myself in. "Most fools think they are only ignorant." Benjamin Franklin Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: tim huntzinger on October 03, 2008, 09:34:00 am 'Better to keep ones mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.' Twain
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Conan71 on October 03, 2008, 09:42:13 am quote: I never want people to doubt me. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: ARGUS on October 03, 2008, 10:31:52 am If it helps: I have wanted to call all of you at some time or another "petty *****es" but have not. Restraint is a good thing.
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Porky on October 03, 2008, 06:07:00 pm quote: Calm down CF.........if what you said was true this forum would read like a strobe light on meth. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Porky on October 03, 2008, 07:05:11 pm OK CF........it's been an hour and no one has posted anything. Not that this is a bad thing but please explain how this forum gets over 120,000 hits a day?
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: sgrizzle on October 03, 2008, 08:06:16 pm Only a fraction of the people who come here post. I've seen around 100 people on the forum and only a dozen signed in.
Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: Porky on October 04, 2008, 05:59:29 am quote: The important thing is that this is the best forum in all of Oklahoma. It's very well ran and the members here contribute so much with their knowledge on all of the issues. I was just trying to state that the reason for the 120,000 views was from tracking cookies. To have a 100 people viewing the forum is huge and very well respected but they aren't looking in here 1,200 times a day. If you want more view counts I suggest having a board on here for area photography. I think it would be a great addition to an already great forum. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: cannon_fodder on October 06, 2008, 01:41:21 pm Porky, I have no idea. 120,000 hits, unique IPs, bots, refreshes... I simply don't know. I was just pointing out that no one was comparing us to Drudge.
It is a popular and well moderated forum. Thus far, it is better off without the 2 aforementioned posters. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: inteller on October 06, 2008, 01:52:15 pm quote: so does that qualify as a dissociative identity disorder[?] Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: RecycleMichael on October 06, 2008, 03:59:11 pm quote: I am mistreated as both an insider and an outsider...but I also bring it on myself. I have many problems. My psychiatrist says I am manic-depressive...but I have mixed feelings about it. I also have kleptomania...when it gets bad, I take something for it. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: inteller on October 06, 2008, 04:02:48 pm quote: I'll save you $200 psych visit. You have TJD.....also known as tired joke disorder. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: RecycleMichael on October 06, 2008, 04:14:52 pm How about we give you an analysis, inteller?
I am sure there is plenty wrong with you as well... Where would you loke us to start? Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: inteller on October 06, 2008, 06:36:54 pm quote: well since you have all of the information on me (or at least think you do) go right ahead. BTW, nice freudian slip there. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: RecycleMichael on October 06, 2008, 08:43:27 pm I don't need to go far. Your anti-everything wears us all down. I don't need to get into a big argument on this thread with you. You are not worth it.
I just wonder what happened in your life to make you hate so much and inspired you to be against everything. If negativity were a sport, you would be an all-star. Title: Two Posters Locked out of the Forum Post by: inteller on October 06, 2008, 08:45:42 pm quote: oh wow, my very own funny quip. thanks...it means a lot coming from us. |