I understood that this Discussion Board is to
"Talk about issues affecting T-Town and Green Country here."
I made a post yesterday which was very educational and informative. However someone complained and the post was deleted.
I want to first thank those who had positive comments and sent me e-mails.
Perhaps TulsaNow could create a few "rooms" in order that the citizens of this City can discuss whatever topic they believe is important to the community.
I have always believed that debate is very healthy. Censorship is NOT. If we do not openly discuss, do not propose any educational models to better inform ourselves than we keep ourselves afflicted with guilt and shame which washes over all concerned, perpetrators, victims, and other family members alike, we all help shield and perpetuate the crime.
Yes, I am very much a one topic person, but not 100 percent.[:)][:)]
TulsdaNow could expand, should expand to allow any subject that effects our community. We should never censor and bury our heads in the sand. Censorship is unAmerican while burying our head in the sand seems to be common pratice.
Yes, you are a one-topic poster that posts repetitive topics. THAT'S the problem. Repetitive posting of a single topic is considered spamming.
If you want a single-topic discussion board where you are not limited what and how much you post, perhaps you should start your own message board for that purpose.
That's my 2¢.
I have to agree with Tulsa Mini. Yes, debate is very healthy and this board offers us a chance to join in the conversation and become informed on many topics. I enjoyed reading your posts at first, but you keep posting the same points of view over and over again.
I am glad you are passionate about this issue, but it seems reasonable that others would tire of reading the same posts again and again. There are rules about double-posting and I am glad that this is a moderated forum.
I hope you will take this as constructive criticism and continue to be an active participant of this forum.
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Originally posted by TulsaMINI
Yes, you are a one-topic poster that posts repetitive topics. THAT'S the problem. Repetitive posting of a single topic is considered spamming.
If you want a single-topic discussion board where you are not limited what and how much you post, perhaps you should start your own message board for that purpose.
That's my 2¢.
The problem is that they DO have their own board, yet feel the need to spam this one.
http://www.cfcoklahoma.org/forum/
Looks like a forum to me.
And as far as your censorship comment goes? Non issue with message boards. People seem to think that the first amendment has application to message forums. You are absolutly incorrect. The people who own the sites that have the forums have final say.
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Originally posted by MSLGWCEO
I understood that this Discussion Board is to
"Talk about issues affecting T-Town and Green Country here."
I made a post yesterday which was very educational and informative. However someone complained and the post was deleted.
I want to first thank those who had positive comments and sent me e-mails.
Perhaps TulsaNow could create a few "rooms" in order that the citizens of this City can discuss whatever topic they believe is important to the community.
I have always believed that debate is very healthy. Censorship is NOT. If we do not openly discuss, do not propose any educational models to better inform ourselves than we keep ourselves afflicted with guilt and shame which washes over all concerned, perpetrators, victims, and other family members alike, we all help shield and perpetuate the crime.
Yes, I am very much a one topic person, but not 100 percent.[:)][:)]
TulsdaNow could expand, should expand to allow any subject that effects our community. We should never censor and bury our heads in the sand. Censorship is unAmerican while burying our head in the sand seems to be common pratice.
Yes but no one wants to read the same thing OVER AND OVER and waste time with SPAM!
+1 for Mini and RM.
I appreciate and agree with your perspective. I think it is an issue that should be addressed and I appreciate the dialogue you have brought. However, you are indeed bringing up the same issue several times per week.
If there was a new development germane to Oklahoma I would be interested in hearing it. I'm sorry, but this is not the "Juvenile Sex Offender Law Blog." Each new nuisance nationwide on the issue really isn't pertinent. If I was that interested, I would be a member of a newsgroup or read a blog dedicated to that issue.
Furthermore, you are addressing the issue from a Political standpoint. You want the laws in this regard changed nationwide. Not really a topic of discussion about Tulsa issues (anymore so than any other political issue). You get away with a lot more repetitive topics in Politics, FYI.
Basically, I appreciate your zeal for your issue and do, in fact, agree with your position. But my persistently bringing the issue up you have exhausted most peoples interest and spent a large portion of your credibility on this board. You are an advocate for on position on one issue - and as important as that is the repetitive postings on it have already grown old. If something of interest on that issue that would be interesting to many people on this board does happen... at this point most people would not bother reading it.
Sorry. I do not mean to offend you nor drive you away from this community. Just telling it like I see it.
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
I have to agree with Tulsa Mini. Yes, debate is very healthy and this board offers us a chance to join in the conversation and become informed on many topics. I enjoyed reading your posts at first, but you keep posting the same points of view over and over again.
I am glad you are passionate about this issue, but it seems reasonable that others would tire of reading the same posts again and again. There are rules about double-posting and I am glad that this is a moderated forum.
I hope you will take this as constructive criticism and continue to be an active participant of this forum.
Thank you. Yes I hope to contribute and yes, I am pretty much a one topic person. However, There are many topics within the one. Such as Teens getting caught up, people who have been married for 70 years. OMG!! Residency, public registration. The pitfalls of the public registry. Court cases. Nevada Supreme Court has recently made the retroactive aspect of the registry unconstitutional. as has other courts. What can we do as a community to better understand the issues that should concern us. How can we have a registry that is fair for all? one that can be understood.
See, there are many topics and my suggestion would be for the web master to create more organization on the board. This way, these type of discussion, pro and con may have their own child boards just like "politics" has it's own room.
I realize this is a hot topic. So is religion and politics but that doesn't mean we should ban politics and religion from being discussed.
I would love to be able to continue doing what I do. Lively respectful debate is the healthiest thing we can do as a community
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by TulsaMINI
Yes, you are a one-topic poster that posts repetitive topics. THAT'S the problem. Repetitive posting of a single topic is considered spamming.
If you want a single-topic discussion board where you are not limited what and how much you post, perhaps you should start your own message board for that purpose.
That's my 2¢.
The problem is that they DO have their own board, yet feel the need to spam this one.
http://www.cfcoklahoma.org/forum/
Looks like a forum to me.
And as far as your censorship comment goes? Non issue with message boards. People seem to think that the first amendment has application to message forums. You are absolutly incorrect. The people who own the sites that have the forums have final say.
Yes, I do have a forum
http://www.cfcoklahoma.org/forum/ which is "read only" at this time. Individuals were posting porn. That is why it is read only at this time.
It's a work in progress, We are updating and adding new information with a National Board, Regionals with state boards. It will someday in the future be open to the public, or at least parts of it.
I do not see where telling me to go else where solves anything. In my mind, what I'm hearing is censorship by saying go elsewhere.
I see no reason why TulsaNow cannot put up another "room to accommodate any topic that isn't wanted in the Main Discussion Forum. In fact, TulsaNow, would in my opinion be more versatile in accommodating individuals who want to talk and have healthy debate on any subject.
Like I said, TulsaNow is a "Community" forum. Yes, the owners have the final say. In my opinion. These issues do effect the community to a large extent and burying our heads in the sand only perpetuates the problem. My opinion. I believe in open discussion as a community, regardless of the topic. So if your going to call this TulsaNow and deny topics relavent to the community, well, that doesn't sound much like "community.
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Originally posted by zstyles
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Originally posted by MSLGWCEO
I understood that this Discussion Board is to
"Talk about issues affecting T-Town and Green Country here."
I made a post yesterday which was very educational and informative. However someone complained and the post was deleted.
I want to first thank those who had positive comments and sent me e-mails.
Perhaps TulsaNow could create a few "rooms" in order that the citizens of this City can discuss whatever topic they believe is important to the community.
I have always believed that debate is very healthy. Censorship is NOT. If we do not openly discuss, do not propose any educational models to better inform ourselves than we keep ourselves afflicted with guilt and shame which washes over all concerned, perpetrators, victims, and other family members alike, we all help shield and perpetuate the crime.
Yes, I am very much a one topic person, but not 100 percent.[:)][:)]
TulsdaNow could expand, should expand to allow any subject that effects our community. We should never censor and bury our heads in the sand. Censorship is unAmerican while burying our head in the sand seems to be common pratice.
Yes but no one wants to read the same thing OVER AND OVER and waste time with SPAM!
I understand, that's why a good forum has rooms created to discuss different topics. Don't like the topic, one stays out of that room. I'm sure there are people here that don't enter the "politics" area. If you had a room to discuss religious areas, there would be those who would not enter because they don't want to discuss religion.
First let me say, if I have offended anyone, please accept my most humble apology. That's not what I'm here for. I am a member of the Tulsa community. Born and raised here. I'm very concerned with what is happening with these laws as Rickys story and many others here in Oklahoma are suffering with laws that do more harm than good. Laws that are feel good, vote getting, knee jerk reaction. Laws that are passed without conferring with experts in the field. The very laws that are suppose to protect our children in fact are endangering them and our community.
Every community forum should have rooms to accommodate what ever topic members of the community wish to discuss. That makes for a healthy community and community forum. IMHO of course.
MSLGWCEO, Thanks for bringing this topic to our attention. I think a lot of people out there are aware of problems with the Sex Offender registries and with application of laws re sex offenses. Don't these laws date from the era of the McMartin Preschool and the irrational hysteria our nation went through at that time?
We have a registered sex offender in our neighborhood. I know this because one neighbor who is something of a gossip has repeated this every time we drive past the sex offender's house. When questioned, she doesn't know what kind of sex offense was committed. She doesn't know if it was a matter of urinating in public or raping a toddler. I for one think there is a radical difference between the two offenses. Lumping both ends of the spectrum into one category weakens the label and renders it to some degree meaningless.
And there are problems with double jeopardy, with sex offenders who have served out their sentence being essentially handed a life-long punishment because of the sex offender registries.
Of course, we all abhor crimes of sexual violence or crimes adults perpetrate on innocent children, the infirm or elderly. And we need to continue to try and find ways to eliminate these hideous crimes.
But we also need to make distinctions between serious sex offenses and sex offenses that are not so serious -- offenses that probably should not be included on the list.
The problem is that so much needs immediate attention and every issue could take a life time of advocating and between that and trying to hold together a household, people have compassion deficits. And standing up for people that have been labeled sex offender is not a popular stance regardless of how righteous it might sometimes be.
Good luck with your cause.
I agree and disagree. There are several topics but they are so closely related. It's like starting two threads: "Why does the OKC Thunder Suck this year" and "Why isn't the OKC Thunder winning any games"
If you look at the threads already created, they have covered most, if not all, of the topics listed without being far enough off the main topic to really deserve a new thread.
I would imagine that the staff's purpose was mainly to make you aware you were acting like a spammer and not to squash your topic of particular concern. I would however suggest you take a flat blade screwdriver and remove the "Caps Lock" key off your keyboard as that is the internet's primary "annoy' button.
it = spam. go away. next?
Who was the guy that was on here soliciting business ideas over and over again? Good purpose, but went overboard with it. Same concept.
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Originally posted by MSLGWCEO
www.cfcoklahoma.org
Looks like your really into that Teen Sex thing. Just how old are you and is this away for you to meet young chicks?
If your over 14 years old, you might want to look into some form of counseling. [:O]
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Originally posted by MSLGWCEO
I made a post yesterday which was very educational and informative. However someone complained and the post was deleted.
I wrote that we've already covered these issues exhaustively. If you took that as a complaint, so be it. But simply re-iterating the same argument is not going to persuade anyone of the worth of your cause. On the contrary, it may only serve to harden attitudes.