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Title: President in good faith, stimulus smells
Post by: shadows on February 22, 2009, 09:17:53 pm

There seems to be a wide gap between the down town elitists in improvements in the IDL road construction and the citizens of Tulsa on how the stimulus money is spent that is allotted to the whole city.   I seems that the majority of the stimulus be used on the IDL leaving the bond monies already  approved by the voters, to be used to increased back door salaries increases of the bureaucracy, by changing their job classifications.   Although the President, in his campaigning speeches for a change, was unfamiliar with the political process that go on within cities.  There is no question that he is acting in good faith but the policies are entrenched.  The 270 sum employees that were laid off from one of our booming aerospace industries of a year ago will possibly join many who are trying to make the house payments that the stimulus was to help.

Is there some reason why it will take 4 years to add sum six miles of widening the southern express way while they built the creek turnpike in months?    Can we just hire Tulsa citizens and slow down the crime spree that has engulfed the city?  There are many citizens outside the IDL that will need help very soon.  


Title: President in good faith, stimulus smells
Post by: Ibanez on February 22, 2009, 09:47:45 pm
Nobody South of 31st, North of Brady St., East of Lewis Ave. or West of Houston Ave. matter.


Title: President in good faith, stimulus smells
Post by: sgrizzle on February 23, 2009, 08:28:14 am
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I seems that the majority of the stimulus be used on the IDL leaving the bond monies already approved by the voters, to be used to increased back door salaries increases of the bureaucracy, by changing their job classifications.



The 2-3 topics have nothing to do with each other. The IDL upgrades were an unfunded ODOT project and not part of the city bond issue.

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Although the President, in his campaigning speeches for a change, was unfamiliar with the political process that go on within cities. There is no question that he is acting in good faith but the policies are entrenched.



So your assumption is that he is completely ignorant to politics in general or to the fact that only a small percentage is going to business-supporting infrastructure projects?


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Is there some reason why it will take 4 years to add sum six miles of widening the southern express way while they built the creek turnpike in months? Can we just hire Tulsa citizens and slow down the crime spree that has engulfed the city?



Your memory of how long the creek turnpike is highly flawed. Not to mention it was a new roadway built in a vacant space. I-44 construction involves rebuilding a roadway without shutting the original down, changing it's path greatly and putt in a new, extremely large, drainage system.



Title: President in good faith, stimulus smells
Post by: shadows on March 02, 2009, 10:09:32 pm
It seems odd the dodging the orange barrels over years of time, disrupting traffic, with a very few workers on the jobs.  I suppose one does not count the American-Mexicans as workers.  Then again every thing that pertain to an even flow of traffic seem to be related to any subject of our clobbered up pot hole streets and should have a direct interest when half of the police and workers live in the suburbs.  Course we protect the suburbs turf.