I don't know who this person is...but they seem obsessed...Maybe one of you Sam Spades can figure out the author...
http://www.defeatgomez.com/
They have hidden most easy routes to find out who they are. They keep posting on TulsaWorld.com however. I doubt it's one of the more well known vocal opponents as their arguments seem flawed at times and overly simplistic.
If it was from a firefighter, would it make you feel better ;D
In a future installment, I want to see what he got from the billboard industry.
Chris DeBon
Media Liaison, WhoOwnsTulsa
Quote from: RecycleMichael on September 13, 2009, 08:31:08 PM
I don't know who this person is...but they seem obsessed...Maybe one of you Sam Spades can figure out the author...
I suppose that Charles with public works could continue the status quo as in the past to supervise the majority of city workers. The elitist DT might object but they would do so in silence.
Someone with a burr under their saddle had a LOT of time on their hands. Were they expecting me to read all that? I got as far as the first citation and I started yawning. Maybe after I've had a few more cups of coffee. I still have not decided on that race yet, this piece didn't manage to sway me one way or the other.
Quote from: custosnox on September 13, 2009, 11:30:45 PM
Chris DeBon
Media Liaison, WhoOwnsTulsa
That makes sense. He is also the President of the Turner Park Homeowners Association and was frequently quoted as being mad about the homeless housing project at Admiral and Yale.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 14, 2009, 08:46:19 AM
Someone with a burr under their saddle had a LOT of time on their hands. Were they expecting me to read all that? I got as far as the first citation and I started yawning. Maybe after I've had a few more cups of coffee. I still have not decided on that race yet, this piece didn't manage to sway me one way or the other.
This is a tough one for me too...I know both Eric and Maria (Eric I've known for years) and I like both of them well enough.
Maria took some time to get her feet under her in her first term. She wasn't afraid to stand up to development in favor of neighborhoods, but sometimes to the detriment of growth.
Eric really cares about the development of downtown and his district (maybe too pro-development) but he can talk himself in circles. I hope that the accusations about his approval of changes to LED billboards is not true...don't know.
I was amazed at how many votes Rocky got. I'm embarrassed to say I didn't realize he was running against Eric in the primary until I saw one of his signs a few days before the primary. I knew more about the races in other districts than I did my own.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 14, 2009, 10:23:37 AM
I was amazed at how many votes Rocky got. I'm embarrassed to say I didn't realize he was running against Eric in the primary until I saw one of his signs a few days before the primary. I knew more about the races in other districts than I did my own.
The repub orgs and bloggers endorsed Rocky. I don't really understand it. Rocky is a decent enough guy but he doesn't have a shot against Maria. It's like they'd rather have Maria win than Gomez.
Quote from: sgrizzle on September 14, 2009, 10:33:34 AM
The repub orgs and bloggers endorsed Rocky. I don't really understand it. Rocky is a decent enough guy but he doesn't have a shot against Maria. It's like they'd rather have Maria win than Gomez.
What did Eric do to PO the GOP establishment? I'm struggling with this race. I know and like Eric and Maria about equally and have had similar thoughts of the pros and cons of either one's tenure as a D-4 councilor. Does anyone know if there will be a debate or candidate forum for the Mayoral and any remaining council races?
Quote from: carltonplace on September 14, 2009, 10:17:42 AM
I hope that the accusations about his approval of changes to LED billboards is not true...don't know.
There was a time when I though Gomez was pro-neighborhood as well, when he was in on talks with then Councilor Gary Watts with the Renaissance Neighborhood on an obtrusive lighting ordinance, but I guess he has his priorities.
From the Whirled:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=20080425_1_A9_spanc17770
Tulsa's City Council approved a 30-day extension Thursday of the digital billboard moratorium to continue discussions about how best to regulate them.
The council has grappled with the issue for three weeks after being forwarded recommendations by the Sign Advisory Board and the Tulsa Metropolitan Planning Commission.
Before the vote, Councilors Eric Gomez and Dennis Troyer presented their own recommendations.
Among Gomez and Troyer's suggested changes from the previous recommendation:
* Change the proposed maximum night-time brightness from 300 nits to 500 nits, so the billboard would not be too dim. A nit is a unit of brightness.
* Change the proposed minimum interval of change between messages from 12 seconds to eight seconds to mirror what is required by the state and the Federal Highway Administration.
* Change the proposed spacing between the billboards from 2,400 feet to 1,200 feet so many existing billboards would not be excluded from converting to the technology. So yes, Gomez gave the billboard industry what they lobbied for.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 14, 2009, 10:38:15 AM
What did Eric do to PO the GOP establishment?
Near as I can tell, it was all about the White City kerfuffle, which turned out to be little more than NIMBY and good old-fashioned mob mentality.
As for Rocky, I thought the way he came on to the TulsaNow forum a couple of years ago and seemed to openly pick fights didn't bode well for his temperament as a public servant. It's that "doesn't play well with others" problem that hurt Medlock so badly.
I had recently been shopping LED monitors and discovered most of the last generation of LED monitors were manufactured on a 300nit spec.
So, boosting it to 500nit would seem excessive, imo, and done shearly to please the sign industry.
From what I've gleaned, my opinion of the two:
Gomez - generally pro-development, but without regard to quality of life, rather as a means for his buddies to make piles and piles of money
Barnes - genuinely interested in constituents' concerns
But I voted for Rocky in the primary. :)
Quote from: rwarn17588 on September 14, 2009, 11:22:59 AM
Near as I can tell, it was all about the White City kerfuffle, which turned out to be little more than NIMBY and good old-fashioned mob mentality.
As for Rocky, I thought the way he came on to the TulsaNow forum a couple of years ago and seemed to openly pick fights didn't bode well for his temperament as a public servant. It's that "doesn't play well with others" problem that hurt Medlock so badly.
Huh, I remembered Rocky posting some around that time, but didn't remember him getting into arguments. Not to say that didn't happen, after all Marshall's beer was invented during that time span so I might have forgotten.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 14, 2009, 03:06:10 PM
Huh, I remembered Rocky posting some around that time, but didn't remember him getting into arguments. Not to say that didn't happen, after all Marshall's beer was invented during that time span so I might have forgotten.
I remember him getting awfully defensive when I said that his responses to the candidate survey seemed like "non-answers" and that they conveyed a sense that he had no interest in actually DOING anything as a councilman. But, I think he was encouraged to be argumentative by FB and others.
That being said, while I actually like both Gomez and Barnes, I chose Barnes because I saw her more involved during the PlanItTulsa meetings than Gomez. He showed up at the beginning of the meetings to say a couple of words, and then I never saw him again. Did he leave, or did I just not notice him at another table?
FWIW (and I am not making any endorsements one way or the other), Gomez was at the Florence Park Neighborhood Association meeting last night. He encouraged everyone to fill out the survey for what to do with Drillers Stadium, he let everyone know that the PlaniTulsa Draft Plan was available online, and he provided his cell phone number (don't ask for it, I didn't write it down) if we see graffiti or some other pressing issue. He also gave a vote for me speech, as did Maria Barnes, who was there also. Both Gomez and Barnes left to attend other meetings after they made their respective speeches.
Quote from: tshane250 on September 16, 2009, 12:47:22 PM
FWIW (and I am not making any endorsements one way or the other), Gomez was at the Florence Park Neighborhood Association meeting last night. He encouraged everyone to fill out the survey for what to do with Drillers Stadium, he let everyone know that the PlaniTulsa Draft Plan was available online, and he provided his cell phone number (don't ask for it, I didn't write it down) if we see graffiti or some other pressing issue. He also gave a vote for me speech, as did Maria Barnes, who was there also. Both Gomez and Barnes left to attend other meetings after they made their respective speeches.
Yeah, they also came to Renaissance Neighborhood Association meeting last night as well.
Hmmm. Not my district, but I do think that Gomez "gets" downtown, and Maria doesn't. I think he recognizes the value of creating a thriving urban center, and protecting what's unique about downtown. As a downtown advocate, this matters to me.
I know Maria has many friends in the neighborhood associations and other community groups like Preserve Midtown, etc. She seems to be a popular neighborhood advocate. And I've always appreciated the fact that she attends just about every community meeting on the calendar, and makes herself available to folks.
If she does defeat Gomez, I hope she will realize that downtown is critical to Tulsa's future. (The quote I have heard from more than one source is that she has said: "I could care less about downtown." I hope this was misquoted, or taken out of context.)
Indeed, creating a thriving downtown and protecting what remains of our priceless urban fabric is more important than hating McMansions in midtown. (Even though that is an emotion I understand and share.) I hope ALL our councillors can begin to see that downtown belongs to all of us, and we all have a stake in its success.
I continue to receive questions about whom I support for the general election. First, I do believe in non-partisian municipal elections and I am not a single issue voter. Based upon the complex and multiple issues facing the City at this juncture and the candidates qualifications I have elected to support Gomez.
As both candidates have served public office and have history to be examined, one can weigh for themselves the issues that matter to them and how they were ultimately handled. Each candidate, every candidate has a stiff learning curve walking into a new position. Just like any new job there are innumerable details that require learning all at once. I look at particular issues, methodology in handling those issues, what was learned and consequently applied forewardly. On a larger scope I evaluate presentation at multiple levels. The second one steps into the public arena the balancing of mulitple tensions, forces, and needs take precedence over any personal mission.
I hope this has helped to clear up any confusion. I welcome discussion.
Thank you for your support in the primary. I had so much fun campaigning. Wonderful experience!
Liz Wright
Huh?
Frisco endorses Barns--read why here:
http://www.rocky4tulsa.com/
Hmm.. So each party's runner up candidate says they won't support their former opponent. Just goes to show maybe they ran for a reason..