The Tulsa Forum by TulsaNow

Why would Tulsa(TU) play OU in Austin?

Maybe they will implode that POS of a stadium after the contract runs out.

I agree. The Cotton Bowl sucks.
You can only upgrade so long then its just useless.
I loved the years my Dolphins were at the Orange Bowl but it was a piece of crap and I love were we play now(whatever the name is)
I liked Texas stadium but change had to happen, good gawd that walk across the bridge from parking was brutal.
I get the whole fair scenario but anyone who thinks that site is neutral is nuts.
I love tradition but if they can tear down the Camelot inn.
Then nothing is sacred.   ;D

Football politics aside...

There is lots of "new" in Dallas. Have you been there recently? There is new crap everywhere...

From an outsiders perspective, I can tell you that the OU-UT game gets extra hype because it is a neutral site game with a 50/50 crowd.  There are plenty of good rivalries in college football, but only a handful of neutral site 50/50 games (OU-UT, the tea party[FL-GA], and ???).  It's halfway between the schools and close to the red-river over which the "shootout" is fought (the winning State gets "possession" of the Red River for the subsequent year).    It's unique where a "big" college football game isn't . . . and unique brings in money.

If the game went into a rotation, even one that had a neutral field game thrown in, it would take away a lot of the mystique of the game.   There's a reason Arkansas and aTm have agreed to a long term "rivalry" in Dallas, it's because the hype and exposure associated with the game outdoes the potential costs.  A big stage.  Access to big time media, and those Dallas recruits have to here about OU for a little while. 

Add to that the fact that donors and fan bases of both schools enjoy the game in Dallas.  It's an annual event and a chance for Dallas Alumni of both schools to catch a game without driving to Austin/Norman.  I understand the sentiment, that "giving" Dallas the revenue and exposure associated with the game isn't good, but the odds of it ever moving are slim to none.

Well it's the same old new crap then...

You have a great sense of humor, Swake! 8)

More places to party.

Let me be the first to ask...Have you ever been to the Red River shootout before?  Just because the game is played in Texas doesn't mean its not neutral.  The stadium is split 50/50 in terms of OU/Texas Fans. Norman to Dallas is 189.95 miles.  Austin to Dallas is 196 miles.  I don't know how much "neutral" you can get in terms of a football game. 

(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/148394/red-river-rivalry.jpg)

Having gone to a few of the games, I can say with 100% certainty it is by far one of the most neutral games in college football today.  The worlds biggest cocktail party (florida and GA) is nowhere near neutral.  For crying out loud its played in jacksonville which is 71 miles from Gainseville FL and 362 from Athens GA.  How is that neutral.  Also, the tickets aren't divided up evenly like they are for OU/Texas. 

It should be noted that the only person ever to make headway on this argument died on Saturday
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D9BJHVV00.html

Another argument that it is neutral:  you can't tell what the hell is going on by the crowd noise.    If you happen to be grabbing a beer or some nachos and the crowd cheers, you can generally ascertain what just happened.  If the home team is on Defense they got a stop or interception.  If they are on offense it's a big gain (wait wait, another cheer . . . they got a touchdown and an extra point). 

At the Red River SHOOTOUT you can't tell.  No matter what happens on side cheers.  And both appear equal.

You got me on that one; no argument here!

Ive seen the talk about a 4 team playoff that would take place after the bowls, but this seems to be the better proposal IMHO.

This is a terrible idea.  Do you hate pageantry and tradition?  I bet you hate kittens and Santa too.   ;)

But seriously, having the game in Dallas at Fair Park is one of the last remaining hallowed institutions in a game that is steadily losing them because of the pull of the almighty dollar.  You are advocating a continued erosion. 

Queries:  Did you go to college at Oklahoma (or Texas)?  Have you ever been to the game at Fair Park?  Are you even a fan of college football?

'92 OU grad...
Been to the OU-Texass game 8 times...

I hate that site... I hate the Texass state fair.

The stadium maybe 50/50 but I dont give a rip, the site is not neutral...
Coming out of there with your tail between your legs only to be surrounded by 50,000 state fair attendees who did not go to the game or UT (or any other college), who suddenly turn into screaming, rabid, taunting Texass fans SUCKS...

love that site.

where have you been?

real world shite- Family. Travel. Parties. Work, mostly work. End times and all... Tough time of year.  Lurking.

Got tired of the banter...