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Title: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: MDepr2007 on February 07, 2010, 11:38:39 am
How do you feel about the local paper providing a database of who lives at what address, where you live and how much water you used last year ? Granted your name has to be on the water bill and with most of us, our information is already out there but doesn't this go too far?

Kinda blew me away that RM used over 270,000 gallons last year. Must be for watering those highway trees ( against city guidlines) or have great party pool ;D


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: RecycleMichael on February 07, 2010, 12:06:29 pm
You stalking me? Please stop.

Yes. I have a pool and a sprinkler system to water an acre and a half backyard.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: rwarn17588 on February 07, 2010, 12:17:22 pm
Average is 86,000 gallons? Wow.

I'm less than a third of that.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: RecycleMichael on February 07, 2010, 12:31:24 pm
I also planted and watered 50 new trees last year after PSO took out 10 mature trees last year. Yes, I used a lot of water last year. I have a large backyard filled with gardens and plants that take a lot of water. I also have five people living in my home and threw big pool parties. When you have 24 kids in the pool at a party, you should also flush the pool system.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: rwarn17588 on February 07, 2010, 12:36:14 pm
RM, have you ever looked into a rainwater catchment system? It'd be a good option for your plants.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: MDepr2007 on February 07, 2010, 12:44:02 pm
RM, have you ever looked into a rainwater catchment system? It'd be a good option for your plants.

 I saw something about that a week or so ago on Victory Gardens , pretty neat setup...


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: patric on February 07, 2010, 12:50:29 pm
RM, have you ever looked into a rainwater catchment system? It'd be a good option for your plants.

The first time I saw a Cistern was a house in Maple Ridge.  Neat idea but make sure the kids dont play around it.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: RecycleMichael on February 07, 2010, 12:53:06 pm
Yes. I made a presentation to former Mayor Taylor on rain gardens and tried unsuccessfully to convince her to use stormwater management funds to subsidize a sale of rain barrels for residential use.

The majority of my water use is the pool. It is large (30,000) gallons and we struggled last year to get it clear early in the season. We flushed and flushed and poured way to many chemicals in the damn thing. I figured it cost me $1500 for five months of swimming.

At ten bucks a day, I made the kids swim.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: nathanm on February 07, 2010, 01:51:45 pm
The majority of my water use is the pool. It is large (30,000) gallons and we struggled last year to get it clear early in the season.
Hah, my total water usage for the year wouldn't have been enough to fill your pool.  :o

That new washer, dryer, and dishwasher really save on the water.

It would be interesting if the World were able to provide a monthly breakdown, but it would be even creepier than it already is.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: TURobY on February 07, 2010, 02:06:52 pm
I ended up with 39,000! I'm surprised, too, since I had my sprinklers going quite often trying to keep my relatively new yard and my new trees from dying.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: MDepr2007 on February 07, 2010, 02:16:38 pm
So whats next, is the paper going to open up our PSO, Cable and ONG bills? How far can it go?


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: nathanm on February 07, 2010, 02:19:36 pm
I ended up with 39,000! I'm surprised, too, since I had my sprinklers going quite often trying to keep my relatively new yard and my new trees from dying.
You waster of water. My SO and I used 19,000 gallons. (Yes, we bathe regularly  :P)

This thing is terrible. It does make it a lot easier to figure out who has a pool, though.

MDepr: Last I checked, all of those services were provided by private companies, thus are not subject to open records requests.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Red Arrow on February 07, 2010, 02:58:00 pm
You waster of water. My SO and I used 19,000 gallons. (Yes, we bathe regularly  :P)

This thing is terrible. It does make it a lot easier to figure out who has a pool, though.

MDepr: Last I checked, all of those services were provided by private companies, thus are not subject to open records requests.

Pool or a lot invested in green vegetation they they don't want to turn brown.

"Regularly" implies but does not guarantee a short time interval. Once a month, every month, is regularly.    :P back at ya.



Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: nathanm on February 07, 2010, 03:23:05 pm
Pool or a lot invested in green vegetation they they don't want to turn brown.
This is why I'm glad my grass and shrubs don't turn brown even if I don't water them.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: BKDotCom on February 07, 2010, 04:14:26 pm
I'm unable to find said database...   
Removed?


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: BKDotCom on February 07, 2010, 04:25:14 pm
Google to the rescue
http://tulsaworld.com/wateruse (http://tulsaworld.com/wateruse)


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: RecycleMichael on February 07, 2010, 06:17:11 pm
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100207_11_A1_Thisho38422

top of the story...


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Red Arrow on February 07, 2010, 08:27:08 pm
This is why I'm glad my grass and shrubs don't turn brown even if I don't water them.

Plastic?


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: YoungTulsan on February 07, 2010, 08:34:42 pm
DOUG PIELSTICKER   1550 E 27TH ST   74114   RES SINGLE FAMILY   IN - INSIDE CITY    3,701,000

Thats a lot of water!


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: brianh on February 07, 2010, 10:21:38 pm
Damn, I went to school 20 years ago with the kid whose dad just got called out in the paper for using four million gallons. Somehow I used 33k gallons, but aside from my 7 minute shower everyday I don't use much water. Hope I don't have a leak.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Conan71 on February 08, 2010, 07:10:15 am
Yes. I made a presentation to former Mayor Taylor on rain gardens and tried unsuccessfully to convince her to use stormwater management funds to subsidize a sale of rain barrels for residential use.

The majority of my water use is the pool. It is large (30,000) gallons and we struggled last year to get it clear early in the season. We flushed and flushed and poured way to many chemicals in the damn thing. I figured it cost me $1500 for five months of swimming.

At ten bucks a day, I made the kids swim.

Shock, clarifier, and good filtration.  Please tell me you aren't wasting money on liquid polymer type biocides, they won't work well under heavy bio-loading.  Call me this spring if you have trouble again and I'll be happy to help you out. Changing out the water and heavy flushing won't make a difference if everything else is out of whack.  You need residence time for the chemicals and good filtration.  I've owned two houses with pools (one 40K gal the other 15K gal) and seven years of my professional career were spent working as a regional manager with an chemical company specializing in industrial water treatment.  I was always amazed at what these snot-nosed kids at pool stores would try to sell me on.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: RecycleMichael on February 08, 2010, 07:12:36 am
You are my new pool boy.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Conan71 on February 08, 2010, 07:15:09 am
You are my new pool boy.

I work cheap, cold Marshalls.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: rwarn17588 on February 08, 2010, 09:23:15 am
You are my new pool boy.

TMI.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Townsend on February 08, 2010, 10:07:08 am
You are my new pool boy.

The visual just blinded me.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Breadburner on February 08, 2010, 01:44:55 pm
(http://www.completelynaked.org/in_puris_naturalibus/images/poolboy.jpg)


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Conan71 on February 08, 2010, 01:46:07 pm
(http://www.completelynaked.org/in_puris_naturalibus/images/poolboy.jpg)

We appear to be the same build....

From the waist up.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: YoungTulsan on February 10, 2010, 04:30:47 am
SUN OIL COMPANY   1602 S UNION AVE   74127   LARGE INDUSTRIAL   OT - OUTSIDE CITY    1,284,006,000

SINCLAIR TULSA REFINING CO    902 W 25TH ST   74107   LARGE INDUSTRIAL   OT - OUTSIDE CITY    1,109,940,000

Yes, that is in BILLIONS

Hope they aren't watering down the gas :D


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Conan71 on February 10, 2010, 09:45:27 am
It takes a LOT of steam and evaporative cooling to refine oil.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Breadburner on February 10, 2010, 09:56:06 am
What does the Pepsi bottling plant go through.....


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Conan71 on February 10, 2010, 10:27:40 am
What does the Pepsi bottling plant go through.....

They have several different meters, it's over 100 million a year.

Sinclair used 1.109 billion on one meter at it's refinery

Trigen, the steam and chill water plant downtown went through 79.8 million gallons of water

St. Francis Hospital 219 million

St. John's has a lot of meters, looks like about 67 million on the main hospital

I can't find Big Splash, that'd be interesting.  One could waste a lot of time on that DB.



Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Nik on February 10, 2010, 11:30:28 am
I can't find Big Splash, that'd be interesting.

14M gallons.

http://www.batesline.com/archives/2010/02/money-belt-is-megawet.html


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Nik on February 10, 2010, 11:32:05 am
Marshall Brewing has two entries that combine to 408,000 gallons.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Conan71 on February 10, 2010, 01:01:40 pm
Marshall Brewing has two entries that combine to 408,000 gallons.

It's never a perfect TNF thread until Marshall's is invoked.  Thank you sir!


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: godboko71 on February 10, 2010, 01:56:16 pm
Going to have to check for leaks, DB says we used 77,000 gallons, that can't be right even with watering the garden in the summer.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Breadburner on February 10, 2010, 02:00:28 pm
Going to have to check for leaks, DB says we used 77,000 gallons, that can't be right even with watering the garden in the summer.

Check and see if your meter is turning with everything off.....


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: custosnox on February 10, 2010, 02:07:56 pm
I work cheap, cold Marshalls.

I'll make sure I stock up on Marshalls this spring, I'm sure I'll need some advise


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Conan71 on February 10, 2010, 02:22:32 pm
Hard to believe, I only used 39,000 at my old house with a pool.  Curious if that was a partial year since I moved out the end of May.  They still showed my old address on the database.


Title: Re: Tulsa World provides water usage database
Post by: Markk on February 17, 2010, 10:40:33 pm
How do you feel about the local paper providing a database of who lives at what address, where you live and how much water you used last year ? Granted your name has to be on the water bill and with most of us, our information is already out there but doesn't this go too far?

Kinda blew me away that RM used over 270,000 gallons last year. Must be for watering those highway trees ( against city guidlines) or have great party pool ;D

I thought it was outrageous.