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Title: Recession is over?
Post by: shadows on January 23, 2011, 07:56:57 pm

Recession  is over

We are well out of the recession with the wage increase of 3 percent the past year.   The average wage has increased to $783 weekly.  That is figured using the wage of city employees at more than $2,000 dollars weekly and those employees in private industry working at less than $300 dollars a week. 

Of course there is a difference as stimulus money is being shoveled out by the federal government that cannot be used for city wages but it can be used to offset those thing that were covered by budget and the monies saved from the budget can be used to increase city salaries.  And the working poor pay city employees to just shuffle the money from one desk drawer to another.

And the Chinese that just went home wants us to abandon this system of the floating dollar and we want them to abandon a system that has worked for them for years.

 


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Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: swake on January 24, 2011, 09:39:19 am
Recession  is over

We are well out of the recession with the wage increase of 3 percent the past year.   The average wage has increased to $783 weekly.  That is figured using the wage of city employees at more than $2,000 dollars weekly and those employees in private industry working at less than $300 dollars a week. 

Of course there is a difference as stimulus money is being shoveled out by the federal government that cannot be used for city wages but it can be used to offset those thing that were covered by budget and the monies saved from the budget can be used to increase city salaries.  And the working poor pay city employees to just shuffle the money from one desk drawer to another.

And the Chinese that just went home wants us to abandon this system of the floating dollar and we want them to abandon a system that has worked for them for years.

 



Drinking on Sunday afternoon watching football again?

To what I think is the gist of your rambling and muddled point: You do know that average wages in the private sector are higher than in the public sector? And that only about 1.3% of the workforce earns minimum wage or less? And further that those people making $290 or less a week pay effectively no tax between local sales tax rebates, person exemptions and the Earn Income Tax credit among others and often receive money through the tax system due to those programs. And that’s not taking into account any social services that such a person might qualify for. Your constant imagery of government workers profiting on the backs of the huddled poor masses slaving simply isn’t true. You are full of crap and you know it. You just attempt hide that fact in misspellings and fractured wording.


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: Hoss on January 24, 2011, 10:03:22 am
Recession  is over

We are well out of the recession with the wage increase of 3 percent the past year.   The average wage has increased to $783 weekly.  That is figured using the wage of city employees at more than $2,000 dollars weekly and those employees in private industry working at less than $300 dollars a week. 

Of course there is a difference as stimulus money is being shoveled out by the federal government that cannot be used for city wages but it can be used to offset those thing that were covered by budget and the monies saved from the budget can be used to increase city salaries.  And the working poor pay city employees to just shuffle the money from one desk drawer to another.

And the Chinese that just went home wants us to abandon this system of the floating dollar and we want them to abandon a system that has worked for them for years.

 


Is that like 'Rent is too damn high'?


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: dbacks fan on January 24, 2011, 10:12:47 am
Recession  is over

We are well out of the recession with the wage increase of 3 percent the past year.   The average wage has increased to $783 weekly.  That is figured using the wage of city employees at more than $2,000 dollars weekly and those employees in private industry working at less than $300 dollars a week. 

Of course there is a difference as stimulus money is being shoveled out by the federal government that cannot be used for city wages but it can be used to offset those thing that were covered by budget and the monies saved from the budget can be used to increase city salaries.  And the working poor pay city employees to just shuffle the money from one desk drawer to another.

And the Chinese that just went home wants us to abandon this system of the floating dollar and we want them to abandon a system that has worked for them for years.

 


So does this mean that we won't have to go through the last two years of a six year wage increase freeze? Will we finally get a cost of living raise after four years without?


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: swake on January 24, 2011, 11:13:44 am
Is that like 'Rent is too damn high'?

He makes about that much sense, but Shadows is much less entertaining.


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: we vs us on January 24, 2011, 01:40:00 pm
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Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: shadows on January 24, 2011, 03:48:32 pm
So does this mean that we won't have to go through the last two years of a six year wage increase freeze? Will we finally get a cost of living raise after four years without?
It would be well to know if all the responders to the post were receiving a paycheck drawn upon the city coffers or from the well subsidized industries by the city like the airplane repair or the city bus manufacturing company.  One can be sure that none of the responders are SS recipients who government abandoned the COL increases for them years ago.   

Has not the time come to where all pensions are consolidated into one and that there is equal pay to all retirees in order to put a halt on a rapid  decaying economy system that past history records show ended failures?

I hear the overture now playing, do you?


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: Red Arrow on January 24, 2011, 03:52:29 pm
Has not the time come to where all pensions are consolidated into one and that there is equal pay to all retirees...

No!


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: Gaspar on January 24, 2011, 03:55:10 pm
"Has not the time come. . ."
(http://www.shockmd.com/wp-content/Heston-as-Moses-in-The-Ten-Commandments4.jpg)

Nope!


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: Townsend on January 24, 2011, 04:10:47 pm
It would be well to know if all the responders to the post were receiving a paycheck drawn upon the city coffers or from the well subsidized industries by the city like the airplane repair or the city bus manufacturing company.  One can be sure that none of the responders are SS recipients who government abandoned the COL increases for them years ago.   

Has not the time come to where all pensions are consolidated into one and that there is equal pay to all retirees in order to put a halt on a rapid  decaying economy system that past history records show ended failures?

I hear the overture now playing, do you?


Do you say "rue the day"?


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 24, 2011, 04:15:23 pm
I hear the overture now playing, do you?

That is just your eight track player. Pull out the tape and turn the radio to a news station.


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: shadows on January 24, 2011, 04:27:15 pm

Drinking on Sunday afternoon watching football again?

To what I think is the gist of your rambling and muddled point: You do know that average wages in the private sector are higher than in the public sector? And that only about 1.3% of the workforce earns minimum wage or less? And further that those people making $290 or less a week pay effectively no tax between local sales tax rebates, person exemptions and the Earn Income Tax credit among others and often receive money through the tax system due to those programs. And that’s not taking into account any social services that such a person might qualify for. Your constant imagery of government workers profiting on the backs of the huddled poor masses slaving simply isn’t true. You are full of crap and you know it. You just attempt hide that fact in misspellings and fractured wording.

Many surveys and articles are available showing that government jobs, with their perks, exceed those salaries that private industries can pay.  The private industries, not subsidized by government, must rely on the economy barter of exchange which establishes its own wage scale.

The comparison is biased by which side of the desk one is sitting at.   On the bottom line half of the world is in rebellion because governments isolate them selves from the common people.   Here in the city and state the tea party is a small spark of a peaceful rebellion that is being fanned into a flame.  Take a walk around your desk to the chair on the other side and sit in it looking for a way for halting a rising rebellion against isolating the common citizen that is the foundation of our system.  No structure can exist without a foundation.  Have fun.    


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: Townsend on January 24, 2011, 04:38:06 pm
Many surveys and articles are available showing that government jobs, with their perks, exceed those salaries that private industries can pay.

Links


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: Gaspar on January 24, 2011, 04:45:36 pm
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Take a walk around your desk to the chair on the other side and sit in it looking for a way for halting a rising rebellion against isolating the common citizen that is the foundation of our system.

Did that.  Can't see my monitor, but I did notice that my orchid needs some water.  Thanks!


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 24, 2011, 04:51:03 pm
Controlled for education and experience they earn less:

http://cliftonchadwick.wordpress.com/2011/01/07/comparing-private-sector-and-government-worker-salaries/

Don't be confusing shadows with facts. He heard some crazy talk and believed it.



Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: shadows on January 24, 2011, 05:00:40 pm
Do you say "rue the day"?
As the archives record as in the days of Moses the time is at hand and as the intelligent ones have predicted within the next two decades the scepter will change hands.

Moses was born some 1400 years after the great pyramids were completed by a unknown superior race,   



Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: Townsend on January 24, 2011, 05:06:52 pm
As the archives record as in the days of Moses the time is at hand and as the intelligent ones have predicted within the next two decades the scepter will change hands.

Moses was born some 1400 years after the great pyramids were completed by a unknown superior race,  



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Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 24, 2011, 06:18:27 pm
As the archives record as in the days of Moses ...

You knew Moses?

Very cool.


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: shadows on January 25, 2011, 02:28:49 pm
Links

In your request for links on government  jobs vs. private industry jobs.  I  have the feeling that one of the posters has a connection with an archives search engines.  If this be true the TW printed a survey about a year ago on the subject at hand,  I am sure he can furnish a link from their archives.       


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: shadows on January 25, 2011, 02:52:05 pm
You knew Moses?

Very cool.

No, I did not know Moses but if by truth  of fiction it stressed freedom for his captive people just as is self evident among the masses today.  Governments like in the instant times, where half of the world is in rebellion, there is a growing cry for goverment to let the people go.   


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: swake on January 25, 2011, 03:01:37 pm
In your request for links on government  jobs vs. private industry jobs.  I  have the feeling that one of the posters has a connection with an archives search engines.  If this be true the TW printed a survey about a year ago on the subject at hand,  I am sure he can furnish a link from their archives.       


There's this thing called Google? You might want to check it out.

Or is it Lougle?


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: Gaspar on January 25, 2011, 03:36:14 pm
There's this thing called Google? You might want to check it out.

Or is it Lougle?

Not sure Shadows has The Google on his internets.  It's free, he should call Cox and request it.

Has not the time come to demand The Google?


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: DTowner on January 25, 2011, 03:42:15 pm
No, I did not know Moses but if by truth  of fiction it stressed freedom for his captive people just as is self evident among the masses today.  Governments like in the instant times, where half of the world is in rebellion, there is a growing cry for goverment to let the people go.   


Shadows has a theme song:

http://www.rainmakers.com/gogo.html


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: Hoss on January 25, 2011, 03:58:28 pm
There's this thing called Google? You might want to check it out.

Or is it Lougle?

Awesome.

I just saw that movie this past week.  Stupid-funny movie.  Can't believe Cusack was willing to do it.  One of the crudest films I've ever seen.

I was about the same age as those characters at that same time (19 yo in 1986).  They got the clothing and attitudes spot on.

Sorry for the thread hijack.  Reading shadows always makes my head hurt.

I'm just waiting for our resident grump to come in here and start chastising people for being the 'forum police'.  LOL.


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: dbacks fan on January 25, 2011, 04:01:15 pm
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Governments like in the instant times

 ???



Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 25, 2011, 04:18:57 pm
...if by truth  of fiction it stressed freedom for his captive people just as is self evident among the masses today. 

I need to gets me a decoder ring for this one.


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: Hoss on January 25, 2011, 04:20:36 pm
I need to gets me a decoder ring for this one.

It sounds a lot like this:

http://rmitz.org/AYB3.swf


Title: Re: Recession is over?
Post by: swake on January 25, 2011, 04:40:04 pm
Awesome.

I just saw that movie this past week.  Stupid-funny movie.  Can't believe Cusack was willing to do it.  One of the crudest films I've ever seen.

I was about the same age as those characters at that same time (19 yo in 1986).  They got the clothing and attitudes spot on.

Sorry for the thread hijack.  Reading shadows always makes my head hurt.

I'm just waiting for our resident grump to come in here and start chastising people for being the 'forum police'.  LOL.

In Shadow's world, it's Lougle
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