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Title: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: shadows on January 25, 2011, 04:16:16 pm
 

Once again KPMG has made another survey on the wasteful practice of spending the citizens tax monies.  This time the total cost could exceed one million dollars noting that it could save taxpayers millions of dollars.  It has been tried in other cities and is working.

In Tulsa according to past records of closed door sessions are already underway.  A city union will become a plaintiff and the other city unions will become interceders.  The conditions for biding on obtaining a contract by the private sector will be drawn is such a way that the retention of the city job perks, unrelated to the performance of the actual need to the citizenry, are extended into the private contracting sector.  Even with that Albatross hanging around the neck of private bidders for city services there is a bright side to it as the city workers will be required to submit bids.

The conditions, I assume, will bring in focus the hiring practice of looking for a name to call the position that has already been filled.

Isolation of the citizens by the city would become a void and Civil Services would become a duty for the courts.  The change of command would improve efficiency in the city work force as each employee would be required to show the need of their performance.

To survive in this faltering economy should the shelves be cleaned off to add this recommendation to the other one already there or can we face the truth in the real world?               

 


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 25, 2011, 04:21:46 pm
What color is the sky in your world?


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: Townsend on January 25, 2011, 04:22:51 pm


Once again that Albatross 

, I assume,would become a void 

To survive in this faltering economy


same thing right?


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: waterboy on January 25, 2011, 04:56:22 pm
Hey, Shadows. Cut to the chase. Just give the operation of the entire country to the richest corporation every 5 years and let them keep labor costs down. They are already considered as having the same rights as a person anyway. Might as well make their control official. Be prepared, they'll probably source the work out to China.

Then, use the president like a chamber of commerce rep who visits China and Europe regularly to make sure the business channels are open. He'll be paid straight commission of course and provide his own air fare. Congressmen could then show their true representation as thus: The Honorable Energy Senator from the State of OK brought to you by Devon Oil. Or, The Honorable Ethanol Congressman from the Agri-State of Iowa brought to you by the fine folks at Con-Agra who want you to know that real hybrids come from corn! We won't need any judicial branch but since the constitution mandates it, we'll simply use law college students for the local, state and federal  judges and patent attorneys for the Supreme Court (as long as they have served at least a decade working for a legitimate corporation and have the stock options to prove it).

This half-decade could be the Social Network party's corp. The next one might be the British Petroleum half-decade, followed by a consortium of legal and illegal Pharmaceutical corps. Some might say all this has already happened.

Makes as much sense as what you're saying.


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: Ed W on January 25, 2011, 04:59:15 pm
It's a word salad, not unlike listening to Caribou Barbie.


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: shadows on January 25, 2011, 05:19:08 pm
What color is the sky in your world?

After we saw the dinosaurs were eating each other we were forced to find some other species to inhabit that globe in such a  insufficient solar system so we dropped your species off and now find out you are eating each other.  We have plans to eradicate again.    And the sky here is black at all times. 


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: Townsend on January 25, 2011, 05:22:54 pm
we dropped your species off and now find out you are eating each other. 

That, sir, is a porn site.  I like your style.


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: guido911 on January 25, 2011, 05:31:17 pm
It's a word salad, not unlike listening to Caribou Barbie.
You had to take a shot a Palin even in this thread, Ed? Sheesh. Wait, dammit, I used the word "shot". I guess now I'm advocating violence.


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: shadows on January 25, 2011, 05:39:01 pm
Hey, Shadows. Cut to the chase. Just give the operation of the entire country to the richest corporation every 5 years and let them keep labor costs down. They are already considered as having the same rights as a person anyway. Might as well make their control official. Be prepared, they'll probably source the work out to China.

Makes as much sense as what you're saying.

Does it makes more sense to buy a mayors chair in Tulsa for a million dollars?
 


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: waterboy on January 25, 2011, 07:07:20 pm
If I had a million dollars, I wouldn't waste it on buying power in this burg, thank you very much.


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: Red Arrow on January 25, 2011, 09:41:31 pm
If I had a million dollars, I wouldn't waste it on buying power in this burg, thank you very much.

Where would you waste it to buy power?


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: waterboy on January 26, 2011, 07:54:02 am
I should simplify. I wouldn't waste it to buy power. If my ideas and beliefs aren't strong enough to earn me leadership without buying it, I wouldn't want to be in power. This burg or any other. But I like the way you think. I believe every statement made, every belief held, deserves questioning.


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: custosnox on January 26, 2011, 08:51:25 am
I should simplify. I wouldn't waste it to buy power. If my ideas and beliefs aren't strong enough to earn me leadership without buying it, I wouldn't want to be in power. This burg or any other. But I like the way you think. I believe every statement made, every belief held, deserves questioning.
The only problem is, we live in the land of the golden rule, he who hath the gold, rules.  Idea's and beliefs only take you so far without the funds to finance a campaign.


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: Red Arrow on January 26, 2011, 09:05:12 am
The only problem is, we live in the land of the golden rule, he who hath the gold, rules.  Idea's and beliefs only take you so far without the funds to finance a campaign.

If you can convince enough others that you have good ideas and goals, money will follow. 


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: waterboy on January 26, 2011, 09:59:38 am
If you can convince enough others that you have good ideas and goals, money will follow. 

Perhaps we are just too boy scoutish Red. Part of me understands the pragmatism that Custosox refers too, while the rest of me thinks it is as much to do with charisma, ideas and energy. Money can over ride those elements.


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 26, 2011, 10:38:12 am
If you can convince enough others that you have good ideas and goals, money will follow. 

That has always been my plan.


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: shadows on January 26, 2011, 03:26:57 pm
The President’s complexion in his state of the union speech last night seem to have been bleached out from the world traveling he has been doing. 

From the responses posted on the KPMG recommendations that millions of dollars could be saved  by privatizing city departments, one could assume the very mentioning of such has the same bleaching effect on the city employees.  If the city is to survive steps should be taken now to implement these recommendations. 

True or false.       


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: Townsend on January 26, 2011, 03:32:15 pm
The President’s complexion in his state of the union speech last night seem to have been bleached out from the world traveling he has been doing. 


adjust the little knob on your Zenith


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: waterboy on January 26, 2011, 04:26:16 pm
The President’s complexion in his state of the union speech last night seem to have been bleached out from the world traveling he has been doing. 

From the responses posted on the KPMG recommendations that millions of dollars could be saved  by privatizing city departments, one could assume the very mentioning of such has the same bleaching effect on the city employees.  If the city is to survive steps should be taken now to implement these recommendations. 

True or false.       


Nice segue.

I haven't read the entire report but after working in the private sector my whole life I am hesitant to throw caution to the wind and jump into privatization based on a consultant's opinion. Yes, we might save millions by doing so. We could save millions by simply shutting off all the street lights and replacing traffic signals with 4 way stop signs. So, count me false.

Most of our city problems might also be assuaged by changing to a city manager. True or False?


Title: Re: KPMG RECOMMENDS PRIVATIZING CITY DEPARTMENTS
Post by: shadows on January 27, 2011, 04:39:41 pm
Nice segue.

I haven't read the entire report but after working in the private sector my whole life I am hesitant to throw caution to the wind and jump into privatization based on a consultant's opinion. Yes, we might save millions by doing so. We could save millions by simply shutting off all the street lights and replacing traffic signals with 4 way stop signs. So, count me false.

Most of our city problems might also be assuaged by changing to a city manager. True or False?
I have a copy of the first KPMG and have read it.  It would seem that some 10 Years later there is new recommendation costing over a million dollar reporting the same things and now as usual one needs to read it.  It is well known that on Friday if one is looking for a city employee they are always in meeting.  

Try to find someone in city hall that knows where the meeting is being held.

In Tulsa we have a city manager/mayor elected by the people.  Does not the great charter change establish a city manager/mayor system whereas now we would change it to where 9 to 13 people would appoint the manager/mayor.  Do the citizenry know the difference between a duck and a chicken? The duck is the one that waddles around, always looking for something to feed on.

Now  the DA and the courts are at fault because of the apathy of the citizen to vote for a loosing cause.    
 
It is time to implement the new study?  Or shall we continue to stretch out the rope to hang ourselves with?