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Updated at 10:26 p.m. ET: BELLEFONTE, Pa. — Jerry Sandusky was convicted of 45 counts of child sexual abuse Friday night and faces spending the rest of his life in state prison.
Kimberly Kaplan and Michael Isikoff of NBC News reported from Bellefonte, Pa. M. Alex Johnson is a reporter for msnbc.com. Follow M. Alex Johnson on Twitter and Facebook.
Sandusky's attorney, Joseph Amendola, asked Judge John Cleland to allow Sandusky to be released on house arrest, but Cleland summarily rejected the request, saying: "Bail is revoked. Mr. Sandusky is remanded to the custody of the sheriff."
Sandusky was immediately led out of the courthouse in handcuffs as a large crowd of onlookers cheered.
I hope he spends the rest of his mortal and eternal lives face down getting the pineapple treatment or the sandpaper condom treatment. What a pathetic POS and a beast.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 23, 2012, 12:37:40 AM
I hope he spends the rest of his mortal and eternal lives face down getting the pineapple treatment or the sandpaper condom treatment. What a pathetic POS and a beast.
Don't forget to add grass to that sandpaper.
;D
Why do these types of crimes not warrant the death penalty... ??? ??? ???
Quote from: Breadburner on June 24, 2012, 11:07:24 AM
Why do these types of crimes not warrant the death penalty... ??? ??? ???
Why should they? Child molesters are the lowest form of scum, even in the prisons, so they are typically targeted. He will likely get Darwined while in the house.
Quote from: Hoss on June 24, 2012, 11:18:18 AM
Why should they? Child molesters are the lowest form of scum, even in the prisons, so they are typically targeted. He will likely get Darwined while in the house.
Thats a pipe dream...He will be in segregation and protected.....
I have heard that little bit of lore for decades. And yet, the vast majority of them seems to navigate all the "righteous indignation" of murderers and rapists who would naturally be inclined to go after them, and many times get out. Wonder how much truth there is to that?
He will end up at a minimum yard and protected. But because of his high profile case, I'm sure that segregation is where he will spend the vast majority of his time. Like Dahmer, mistakes can still be made and he could walk into a chow room alone while cleaning up and get the same treatment.
My prediction is that after all appeals are exhausted and he realises that he will be spending what is left of his life inside prison. He will take the cowards way out and hang himself. He has the look of suicide all over his face.
On a side note. The inmates at the correctional center where he is at. Like to sing a verse of a Pink Floyd song. "Hey Teacher! Leave those kid's alone!" after lights out. They are ordered not to talk to him directly.
A man can only take that kind of mental abuse so long. And he looks weak.
Quote from: Breadburner on June 24, 2012, 11:53:22 AM
Thats a pipe dream...He will be in segregation and protected.....
Jeffrey Dahmer was supposedly protected. We all know how that ended.
Far better punishment for Sandusky, even if he's in solitary, to have the rest of his life to think about how badly he foobared up. Besides, it costs a whole lot more warehousing inmates on death row than general population. Plus they have virtually unlimited appeals on the tax payer dime. It's roughly ten times the cost for death row, and then he gets put to sleep? I really don't see how a peaceful death is proper retribution for the ways in which he ruined these young men's lives.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 25, 2012, 09:53:37 AM
Jeffrey Dahmer was supposedly protected. We all know how that ended.
Far better punishment for Sandusky, even if he's in solitary, to have the rest of his life to think about how badly he foobared up. Besides, it costs a whole lot more warehousing inmates on death row than general population. Plus they have virtually unlimited appeals on the tax payer dime. It's roughly ten times the cost for death row, and then he gets put to sleep? I really don't see how a peaceful death is proper retribution for the ways in which he ruined these young men's lives.
I would love to think he'd get the 'Pulp Fiction' Marsellus treatment...obviously without interruption by Bruce Willis.
What the guy did was despicable and unconscionable. He was in a position, and with support, that allowed him that behavior. As a society we must put him away from others and exact a punishment. I have to say that my Christian beliefs assure me God loves him as much as any other sinner. You have to remember that he most likely was abused as a child and no one was ever held accountable for his abuse.
I personally knew two child molesters of different degrees. One continued to work in the community with supervision and does well. One was locked away never to be heard from again. Rumors were that he committed suicide or was killed in prison. The guy was well educated, sophisticated, a respected, active member of his church and society, but the demons were there and he abused the faith others had in him. Its really quite sad.
Quote from: AquaMan on June 25, 2012, 10:10:06 AM
You have to remember that he most likely was abused as a child and no one was ever held accountable for his abuse.
I have never found that excuse to be an acceptable line of defense for any of these monsters. People are responsible for their own actions regardless of their childhood or even what they had for lunch yesterday. There are plenty of people who have been abused who did not go on to become abusers.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 25, 2012, 10:13:58 AM
I have never found that excuse to be an acceptable line of defense for any of these monsters. People are responsible for their own actions regardless of their childhood or even what they had for lunch yesterday. There are plenty of people who have been abused who did not go on to become abusers.
Personal data included here:
I was abused as a child. Yes, I said it. I will not delve into it further than to say alcoholism was a large part of it. I've moved past it and forgiven the perpetrator of the abuse. I've never forgotten, though. That's important.
I turned out just fine. I've NEVER accepted that as a plausible excuse or explanation for propagating the same behavior down the generational chain.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 25, 2012, 10:13:58 AM
I have never found that excuse to be an acceptable line of defense for any of these monsters. People are responsible for their own actions regardless of their childhood or even what they had for lunch yesterday. There are plenty of people who have been abused who did not go on to become abusers.
Conan, I very carefully wrote that to deflect any inference that it was an excuse or an excusable behavior in any way. I found it interesting that he really made no defense other than to argue the facts.
You can't on the one hand say that children receive lifelong scars from being abused, yet when the behavior is repeated, say they are merely monsters. To do so is to demean the creator isn't it? He created the monster.
Quote from: Hoss on June 25, 2012, 10:17:00 AM
I turned out just fine.
We have been wanted to talk to you about that. :)
Except for his notoriety as a Penn State coordinator, the Sandusky case was exactly like thousands of others. The grooming, the use of an childrens' organization as a front to gain access to children over many years, all has been repeated so many times that it is hard to believe how skeptical some were about the allegations at first. What is especially frustrating to those of us who have worked in the child abuse field is the choice Penn State's leadership made to protect Sandusky - not because they approved of what he did, but because outing Sandusky would make the university look bad. How do they look now? Are the former athletic director and university president any better than the Philadelphia Monsignor who was recently convicted?
For a local example, read the recent This Land article about the serial child sexual abuse and coverup at Grace Church: http://thislandpress.com/05/23/2012/grace-in-broken-arrow/ (http://thislandpress.com/05/23/2012/grace-in-broken-arrow/). It will make your blood run cold.
Quote from: cynical on June 25, 2012, 10:58:58 AM
Except for his notoriety as a Penn State coordinator, the Sandusky case was exactly like thousands of others. The grooming, the use of an childrens' organization as a front to gain access to children over many years, all has been repeated so many times that it is hard to believe how skeptical some were about the allegations at first. What is especially frustrating to those of us who have worked in the child abuse field is the choice Penn State's leadership made to protect Sandusky - not because they approved of what he did, but because outing Sandusky would make the university look bad. How do they look now? Are the former athletic director and university president any better than the Philadelphia Monsignor who was recently convicted?
For a local example, read the recent This Land article about the serial child sexual abuse and coverup at Grace Church: http://thislandpress.com/05/23/2012/grace-in-broken-arrow/ (http://thislandpress.com/05/23/2012/grace-in-broken-arrow/). It will make your blood run cold.
Just another northeast Oklahoma cult.... has been for a long time.
Sandusky is going to be the only guy in hell that when he walks into a room Hitler and Pol Pot cover their face and walk away.
Quote from: cynical on June 25, 2012, 10:58:58 AM
Except for his notoriety as a Penn State coordinator, the Sandusky case was exactly like thousands of others. The grooming, the use of an childrens' organization as a front to gain access to children over many years, all has been repeated so many times that it is hard to believe how skeptical some were about the allegations at first. What is especially frustrating to those of us who have worked in the child abuse field is the choice Penn State's leadership made to protect Sandusky - not because they approved of what he did, but because outing Sandusky would make the university look bad. How do they look now? Are the former athletic director and university president any better than the Philadelphia Monsignor who was recently convicted?
For a local example, read the recent This Land article about the serial child sexual abuse and coverup at Grace Church: http://thislandpress.com/05/23/2012/grace-in-broken-arrow/ (http://thislandpress.com/05/23/2012/grace-in-broken-arrow/). It will make your blood run cold.
This is what I'm waiting to see whats going to happen next. The conviction of Sandusky is the first ripple that I think is going to really upset things at Penn State. I just think that so many people turned a blind eye, and swept this under the rug for years, (yes, to me there was a coverup or denial take your choice) and the ramifications from this may very well go to the top of Penn State.
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/179990_3642649023359_632736643_n.jpg)
That picture says it all. Doesn't he look happy? That's because he will just be trading a little unit for a big unit.
Now if he was being sexually abused by a woman. That would be torture for him.
Sandusky is an evil man who should spend all his remaining years in jail. However, I don't see anything funny or flippant about prison rape – it is a violent crime perpetrated against individuals who are in the custody and care of the state and federal government that usually goes unpunished. Unlike capital punishment, which is carried out under elaborate and carefully proscribed rules, prison rape is the perpetual torture of fellow inmates to which the prison system and society turn a blind eye.
DTowner. Prison rape in male institutes are not as common as the public thinks. There are to many willing subjects. But when it does happen and the subject is found to be guilty of it. He is transferred to a higher level yard, looses all his gained levels and has more time added to his sentence.
That is why pedophiles and rapists are sent to minimum yards for protection from other inmates. Everyone there are one step away from going home and don't want to mess that up just to make a point.
Harassment and sometimes violence are more the normal treatment for the suspected cho mo's
Quote from: DolfanBob on June 26, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
DTowner. Prison rape in male institutes are not as common as the public thinks. There are to many willing subjects. But when it does happen and the subject is found to be guilty of it. He is transferred to a higher level yard, looses all his gained levels and has more time added to his sentence.
That is why pedophiles and rapists are sent to minimum yards for protection from other inmates. Everyone there are one step away from going home and don't want to mess that up just to make a point.
Harassment and sometimes violence are more the normal treatment for the suspected cho mo's
I'm not an expert on the topic (in any sense of the meaning of expert), but many articles seem to imply it is a problem and resulted in a law in 2003 and recent regulations to implement that law.
http://reason.com/archives/2007/04/18/assault-behind-bars
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/prisons-step-up-anti-rape_n_1525186.html
Whatever the frequency, my point was it is not a laughing matter or an acceptable form of punishment.
Quote from: DolfanBob on June 26, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
There are to many willing subjects.
Let us just refer to it as Prison Love Making. I think Jerry will think of it that way, in fact he may actually discover that fantasy world that he was trying so hard to live in outside of prison.
He likes spending time with young men, and most of the people he will be incarcerated with will be "right up his alley!"
Quote from: Gaspar on June 26, 2012, 04:06:06 PM
Let us just refer to it as Prison Love Making. I think Jerry will think of it that way, in fact he may actually discover that fantasy world that he was trying so hard to live in outside of prison.
He likes spending time with young men, and most of the people he will be incarcerated with will be "right up his alley!"
12 year olds?? In prison??
I guess I am a little skeptical....
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 26, 2012, 04:22:49 PM
12 year olds?? In prison??
I guess I am a little skeptical....
He will probably need to broaden his preferences.
Quote from: Gaspar on June 26, 2012, 04:40:00 PM
He will probably need to broaden his preferences.
He'll likely also need to broaden his stance...
Quote from: Hoss on June 26, 2012, 05:18:19 PM
He'll likely also need to broaden his stance...
ZING
Funny, Google "Geraldine Sandusky" under images and his image comes up. I guess his prison nickname has already been chosen.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 27, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
I guess his prison nickname has already been chosen.
If we can pick our own I'd like to be known as Big Ben since the clock's name is changing to Big Beth.
Quote from: Townsend on June 27, 2012, 10:41:23 AM
If we can pick our own I'd like to be known as Big Ben since the clock's name is changing to Big Beth.
Any thing other than "Wide Receiver" or "Catcher"
Quote from: Conan71 on June 27, 2012, 11:01:46 AM
Any thing other than "Wide Receiver" or "Catcher"
and I don't look like a Rebecca.