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They should have enough strip to get that 737 back up in the air with no pax, I’d think.

I seem to recall Delta had a problem with destination mix-ups about 20 years ago.  With the GPS and navaids available, it’s surprising this still happens to anyone other than Wrongway Inhofe.

Looks like about 3,000 feet at 90,000 lbs with flaps 15 at that altitude.  Not bad but not a lot of room for error either.  Based on flightaware's designation that it's a 737-700.  The Boeing manual also states that aircraft with winglets have a little better performance.

The Enhanced Ground Proximity Warning System (EGPWS) is required on all commercial passenger aircraft, I think. It may be configured to warn pilots approaching the wrong runway, rolling too fast on a taxiway, or attempting to depart on a runway that's too short. Honeywell has some nice info on their website.

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I imagine if they had it spooled up before releasing the brakes should be a snap, especially on a cold morning.

I'm guessing the guys that landed it are not going to have to worry about the take off, from there or anywhere.

Here's your answer:

http://www.ozarksfirst.com/story/southwest-plane-to-leave-taney-co-airport-before-1/d/story/cLcP5JcFAUa3ZaP51F3aNA

Yeah, somehow I guessed it wouldn't be a rolling takeoff.  :)

I watched the takeoff on CNN.  Seemed very normal.

It landed here at 3:33pm.  A friend of mine said "Riverside better get ready"...LOL.

How many clues did they miss they were at the wrong airport?  The alignment at Taney is 14/32, it’s 12/30 at Branson.  They should have been on with Springfield approach and/or Branson tower at that time of day.  You’d think someone at either Springfield or Branson would have noticed they were not on target.  Tower operator would have noticed they didn’t have a visual.  At least I’m assuming the tower at Branson is staffed early evening.

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14/32, 12/30, whatever it takes.

Removed pending investigation

Yep, sounds like ATC dropped the ball also.

Is that one of the towers that was outsourced a couple of years ago? Is it tower control from Mumbai?

Outsourcing doesn't work quite that way in the US for ATC.  I'm not sure though as the new Branson airport is pretty new (October 2008).

Looking at the airnav page for that airport, it doesn't appear to be an outsourced tower; as most of those would be denoted as such in the NOTAMs.

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KBBG

Riverside would be a piece of cake, 1L/19R is 5102 long.

Good, considering an aborted take-off was probably not a real option.

Oh, I know. It was just a cheap outsourcing joke.

Riverside should be able to handle it....

Length-wise, sure.  Not sure about load though.  Although Riverside is technically a reliever airport for TUL.

Maybe Red can help us here, but it seems to me like sometime in the deep, distant past, there were 'demonstration' landings there of larger planes, like the 737.  Seems like maybe a 727 came there once???

I'm just waiting for one of the many Beavis and Butthead moments from this thread.  Won't be from me, but well...

A story I read stated the Branson airport staff left about an hour prior to the plane landing.

Interesting.  Airnav says they're on duty 0700-2100 (non pilots/non military would know that as 7AM to 9PM).  The plane landed at 6:11PM.  Not sure why they would leave at 5pm.

All Things Considered??  What did they have to do with it...??

You are correct.  When Roger Hardesty donated his 727 to Tulsa Tech, they flew it from TUL to RVS for it’s final destination.  That was back in the mid 1990’s.

There’s also been some large war birds come in and out of RVS.

I go watch the B-17s every chance I get...such a beautiful airplane!!

The CAF has flown FiFi, a B-29, in a few times that I’m aware of.  I believe she is one of the two last flying B-29’s left.

Edit: Quick check shows she is the last B-29 still flying though there’s another, “Doc" being restored in Wichita.

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Let's see if this works. It's a photo of FiFi taken in 2012.

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I saw the B-29 flying around when it came.  They are impressive, but I like the B-17 the best...wonderful design.  

Ever watch Memphis Belle?

"They" may have gotten a waiver to fly into RVS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-29_Superfortress

Specifications (B-29)

Data from Quest for Performance[58]

General characteristics

    Crew: 11 (Pilot(A/C), Co-pilot(P), Bombardier(B), Flight Engineer(FE), Navigator(N), Radio Operator(RO), Radar Observer(Rad Ob), Right Gunner(RG), Left Gunner(LG) Central Fire Control(CFC), Tail Gunner(TG))
    Length: 99 ft 0 in (30.18 m)
    Wingspan: 141 ft 3 in (43.06 m)
    Height: 27 ft 9 in (8.45 m)
    Wing area: 1,736 sq ft (161.3 m²)
    Aspect ratio: 11.50
    Empty weight: 74,500 lb (33,800 kg)
    Loaded weight: 120,000 lb (54,000 kg)
    Max. takeoff weight: 133,500 lb (60,560 kg) ; 135,000 lb plus combat load
    Powerplant: 4 × Wright R-3350-23 and 23A Duplex Cyclone turbosupercharged radial engines, 2,200 hp (1,640 kW) each
    Zero-lift drag coefficient: 0.0241
    Drag area: 41.16 ft² (3.82 m²)

Performance

    Maximum speed: 357 mph (310 knots, 574 km/h)
    Cruise speed: 220 mph (190 knots, 350 km/h)
    Stall speed: 105 mph (91 knots, 170 km/h)
    Combat range: 3,250 mi (2,820 nmi, 5,230 km)
    Ferry range: 5,600 mi(4,900 nmi, 9,000 km, [59])
    Service ceiling: 31850 ft [20] (9,710 m)
    Rate of climb: 900 ft/min (4.6 m/s)
    Wing loading: 69.12 lb/sqft (337 kg/m²)
    Power/mass: 0.073 hp/lb (121 W/kg)
    Lift-to-drag ratio: 16.8

Armament

    Guns:
        10× .50 caliber (12.7mm) Browning M2/ANs in remote-controlled turrets.[60]
        2× .50 BMG in and 1× 20 mm M2 cannon in tail position (the cannon was later removed)[N 11]
    Bombs: 20,000 lb (9,000 kg) standard loadout.[61]

Well we always have Harvey Young.  ;D

The movie or the plane?  Yes to both...saw the plane many years ago just after it got to Memphis, where they stashed it under a big tent.  And then promptly let it languish for many, many years, finally decaying to the point where the Air Force museum in Dayton took it back to try to salvage it.  This is just another episode that makes me not much of a fan of Memphis the city....

You were in Memphis in 1949.....???

Late 80's.  It got there in the 50's, IIRC, but never was treated properly.  They finally put it under a tent on Mud Island so people could at least see it.  City never would do the money thing to get it it taken care of, so Air Force took it back.  Am planning to go to Dayton sometime again to see it when they get it fixed.  


Went through Memphis in those early 50's, but don't remember much...