This is scheduled for Tuesday June 4th and is being held at Foolish Things coffee at 11th and Main. People will begin gathering at 5:30 pm and the forum will start at 6:00 pm and last till 7:00 pm.
The candidates invited include the incumbent (and sometimes poster on this forum) Blake Ewing. He was first elected to the city council in 2011. Other challengers include Dan Patten, the past campaign manager for the Bartlett re-election campaign, Julian Morgan, a host of Live Event Trivia, and Elissa Harville, a housewife and writer.
District 4 encompasses downtown Tulsa and many of the nearby historic neighborhoods. It probably includes the highest percentage of appointees to city boards, authorities, and commissions and most of both the outspoken advocates and critics of local government.
Each candidate will be able to give a brief opening statement, then each will be asked to answer questions from our moderator, TulsaNow president Carlos Moreno. Answers will be limited to one minute with some opportunity for candidates to address each other. TulsaNow will also be making a video of this forum and plan to post it on this forum and on YouTube.
The questions are being written in advance. If you have specific questions that you would like to see asked, please send them to TulsaNow secretary Johnna Yoder at JohnnaYoder@yahoo.com.
This is a great chance for all of us posters to come out and socialize, get a cup of good coffee, and be entertained by candidates wanting our support. It would be great to get a big crowd or this forum. See you there.
Apparently Dan has stated one of his priorities are road improvements, so my interest waned already.
Road improvements are still a priority for many people. I bet it would still poll first or second in any measurement.
I am with you. We have voted for well over a billion dollars for road improvements in the last five years. It is time to fund something else.
Quote from: RecycleMichael on May 14, 2014, 08:40:24 AM
Road improvements are still a priority for many people. I bet it would still poll first or second in any measurement.
I am with you. We have voted for well over a billion dollars for road improvements in the last five years. It is time to fund something else.
And the reason it's cost so much is we've taken a 'wait until it's completely FUBAR'd' approach to road maintenance. Sure, road construction is a grumble. But they're working on Memorial right now between Admiral and 11th, once of the worst sections of road in town. Just the half they've completed is ten thousand percent better than what was there.
Just waiting now for the 'well, next winter it will be potholes again' comments. As if that's a reason to not continue upkeep on infrastructure. Might ask the families of the victims of the I-35W bridge collapse how that works.
Who thinks they can make this forum?
Quote from: Hoss on May 14, 2014, 09:26:47 AM
And the reason it's cost so much is we've taken a 'wait until it's completely FUBAR'd' approach to road maintenance. Sure, road construction is a grumble. But they're working on Memorial right now between Admiral and 11th, once of the worst sections of road in town. Just the half they've completed is ten thousand percent better than what was there.
Just waiting now for the 'well, next winter it will be potholes again' comments. As if that's a reason to not continue upkeep on infrastructure. Might ask the families of the victims of the I-35W bridge collapse how that works.
They are doing the mile between 21st & 31st on Yale in concrete, that should prove more durable than the years of asphalt and over-patch. I can't wait for them to address Harvard between 41st & 31st. Easily two of the bumpiest intersections of town and they have been that way since I started driving over 30 years ago.
RM, it's a possibility I might make it.
I would like to go. Is the coffee good?
Conan, that stretch of Yale between 21st and 31st needed concrete badly. After one heavy spring rain I returned home to see 3 ft long slabs of asphalt that had been lifted and moved along the street. And that was 35 years ago.
Quote from: Conan71 on May 14, 2014, 10:24:14 AM
They are doing the mile between 21st & 31st on Yale in concrete, that should prove more durable than the years of asphalt and over-patch.
When our asphalt street was replaced last summer, I was surprised to see about a foot of concrete far beneath... which was removed and replaced with gravel and a liner.
Never understood why the concrete was removed.
Quote from: patric on May 14, 2014, 01:30:18 PM
When our asphalt street was replaced last summer, I was surprised to see about a foot of concrete far beneath... which was removed and replaced with gravel and a liner.
Never understood why the concrete was removed.
I saw that. We cut through your 'hood coming and going from Riverparks on the bikes all the time. When my family had a house at 26th & Delaware from '69 to '77, there was already asphalt throughout the neighborhood.
Quote from: patric on May 14, 2014, 01:30:18 PM
When our asphalt street was replaced last summer, I was surprised to see about a foot of concrete far beneath... which was removed and replaced with gravel and a liner.
Never understood why the concrete was removed.
The situation you described can make for an inconsistent base that can cause ride and subsurface drainage issues resulting in lesser life of the paving section. It can also cause surface failures from water being trapped between the concrete and asphalt surface (if we had any subsurface moisture, not much lately) via freeze/thaw damage. One of the major reasons some/many of our roads are bad is the variety of base and or highly plastic subsurface conditions we have.
I guess it is true. Tulsans are obsessed with roads. No matter the topic, if someone mentions roads, the conversation becomes about roads.
Is there any other topic you would like discussed with these council hopefuls?
I can't wait to tell outsiders about my hometown on what an attraction this is. We could use another 100 cops on the street, our water and sewer bills are going up double digits, and we are tearing down park rec centers, but damn it, we need to spend more on roads. The last two votes now raise over $12,000 in taxes for a family of four. When can we fund something else?
Quote from: RecycleMichael on May 14, 2014, 01:57:21 PM
I guess it is true. Tulsans are obsessed with roads. No matter the topic, if someone mentions roads, the conversation becomes about roads.
Is there any other topic you would like discussed with these council hopefuls?
I can't wait to tell outsiders about my hometown on what an attraction this is. We could use another 100 cops on the street, our water and sewer bills are going up double digits, and we are tearing down park rec centers, but damn it, we need to spend more on roads. The last two votes now raise over $12,000 in taxes for a family of four. When can we fund something else?
Can we discuss beer?
What beer question would you have for a City Council candidate?
Quote from: RecycleMichael on May 14, 2014, 02:13:46 PM
What beer question would you have for a City Council candidate?
Who is going to throw free keggers when they win?
I think I can make it.
My question, nobody on here will be surprised, would concern pedestrian friendly development.
Perhaps...
What will you do to encourage Tulsa's core to become more pedestrian friendly in order to compete with other cities who are attracting and growing more jobs, and increasing tax revenue, like Salt Lake City, and even Denver whose city council recently stated it's TOP, #1 priority is " transit and multi-modal transportation investments "?
Perfect question coming from TulsaNow.
Thank you.
Keep them coming. This is really our opportunity to ask some good questions from people who we need to work with after the election. Let's get them on record agreeing with us and then work with them to make what we want happen.
Local politics 101.
Quote from: TheArtist on May 14, 2014, 03:41:47 PM
I think I can make it.
My question, nobody on here will be surprised, would concern pedestrian friendly development.
Perhaps...
What will you do to encourage Tulsa's core to become more pedestrian friendly in order to compete with other cities who are attracting and growing more jobs, and increasing tax revenue, like Salt Lake City, and even Denver whose city council recently stated it's TOP, #1 priority is " transit and multi-modal transportation investments "?
District 4 would be the perfect forum for it, Artist.
Just realized that June 4th is actually a Wednesday. That's a late day at the shop and the help leaves at 5, may not be able to make it.
I am always interested in how people are willing to take in new info and change their minds if needed, so:
"Tell us about a city policy issue that you have changed your mind about in the last few years. What made you change your mind?"
Im also interested in public transport, so:
"What does 'effective public transportation' mean in Tulsa. What will you do to ensure that we are meeting this definition?"
I worded that question that way because its to easy to have different definitions of effective public transportation. If your idea of effective is cheap as possible then its easy, cut the budget. We have to know how people define the words they say to be able to evaluate what they will do in office.
if you use these feel free to edit for clarity and such.
I would like to know how the candidates feel about a different or additional source for funding local government rather than just depending mostly on sales tax. Specifically, how do they feel about a city income tax?
I like the question. Sales tax works well in tourist areas, but it is prone to swings in revenue and has been ridden for a while for city finances.
I hope that all candidates for city office can find new, yet fair ways to pay for everything.
I plan to attend this TulsaNow forum on Wednesday, June 4th.
My question to all of you, what could we do to help promote this and get a good crowd. I think it is important for TulsaNow to lead such civic discussions and a good crowd will help.
"Patten is now running for city counsel on a platform of fiscal conservativism, road development and improved public safety."
We believe that Tulsa, as a general rule, needs less lanes rather than more and that the hundreds of millions currently being spent on roads is the opposite of fiscal conservatism. This is especially true in District 4 where a need for more transit, pedestrian and biking focus is most greatly felt. What do you mean by "road development" and how does that feeling relate to D4 and the city as a whole?
An effective transit system can drop the amount of vehicles on the road, and road wear, by 20%. Would you support dedicated funding sources for essential services such as transit?
One serious issue that needs to get addressed very soon is the River Casino Driveway & the Jogging Trail that area is getting more busy with both cars and runners, it's a serious accident waiting to happen. They need to put this issue on the front burner and re-locate the jogging trail to the back of the casino for the safety of the runners they talked about doing it for years and it was supposed to happen soon but so far it's not happening. Motor traffic and runners do not mix. Let's do something about that.
Quote from: sauerkraut on May 27, 2014, 01:06:35 PM
One serious issue that needs to get addressed very soon is the River Casino Driveway & the Jogging Trail that area is getting more busy with both cars and runners, it's a serious accident waiting to happen. They need to put this issue on the front burner and re-locate the jogging trail to the back of the casino for the safety of the runners they talked about doing it for years and it was supposed to happen soon but so far it's not happening. Motor traffic and runners do not mix. Let's do something about that.
Two things: it's not in District 4 and there are already plans to relocate it during construction of the new hotel at the casino complex.
Quote from: Conan71 on May 27, 2014, 01:14:03 PM
Two things: it's not in District 4 and there are already plans to relocate it during construction of the new hotel at the casino complex.
But you'd almost have to live here to know that!
Any thoughts on doing something for District 1 or District 9? District 1 abuts downtown and is the northern boundary for Pearl District and TU. District 9 encompasses urban infill areas like Brookisde and the river.
Quote from: rdj on May 27, 2014, 03:46:51 PM
Any thoughts on doing something for District 1 or District 9? District 1 abuts downtown and is the northern boundary for Pearl District and TU. District 9 encompasses urban infill areas like Brookisde and the river.
We only had time to do one race.
District 1&4 are both an interesting contest, but 4 effects the urban core more.
District 9 is GT Bynum vs Paul Tay.
Quote from: sgrizzle on May 27, 2014, 04:21:33 PM
We only had time to do one race.
District 1&4 are both an interesting contest, but 4 effects the urban core more.
District 9 is GT Bynum vs Paul Tay.
I hope GT has a substantial war chest
Quote from: carltonplace on May 28, 2014, 08:19:25 AM
I hope GT has a substantial war chest
Because Santa riding around town towing an inflatable penis is certainly a formidable campaign tactic.
Quote from: sgrizzle on May 27, 2014, 04:21:33 PM
We only had time to do one race.
District 1&4 are both an interesting contest, but 4 effects the urban core more.
District 9 is GT Bynum vs Paul Tay.
Totally understand. I am very curious about District One. Was invited to a meet and greet for Henderson's challenger but was unable to attend. Hope to learn more about her soon.
Quote from: Conan71 on May 28, 2014, 08:22:31 AM
Because Santa riding around town towing an inflatable penis is certainly a formidable campaign tactic.
He is very green. 0 carbon footprint campaign. District 9 certainly has a shortage of inflatable penii, and Tay seeks to remedy this.
Quote from: Gaspar on May 28, 2014, 09:22:46 AM
He is very green. 0 carbon footprint campaign. District 9 certainly has a shortage of inflatable penii, and Tay seeks to remedy this.
You are funny. Is that area zoned for inflatable penii? Should we make some paths designated for inflatable bicycle promotional opportunities complete with air compressors? Of course we'll need some more regulation to protect the women and children.
I hope all you TulsaNow posters who live or work in District 4 show up for this forum. It is a week from today and it starts at 6:00 pm.
I will get there early to socialize. Find me and I will buy you one of their refreshing sodas.
What do you see as the primary core responsibilities of city government? [I see them as (1) Public Safety and (2) Infrastructure. It's like the hierarchy of human needs - air, food, shelter, first.] How do you rate the city's performance in the past 20 or so years in this regard given that our streets are in deplorable, even dangerous, condition and police and fire budgets continue to be cut such that academies fail to keep pace with attrition? Do you believe the city's failure to provide these core services, adequately, accounts, at least partially, for the migration to surrounding suburbs of middle and upper middle class citizens? How will you get back to basics and address these issues?
Quote from: Claude on May 29, 2014, 10:38:10 PM
What do you see as the primary core responsibilities of city government? [I see them as (1) Public Safety and (2) Infrastructure. It's like the hierarchy of human needs - air, food, shelter, first.] How do you rate the city's performance in the past 20 or so years in this regard given that our streets are in deplorable, even dangerous, condition and police and fire budgets continue to be cut such that academies fail to keep pace with attrition? Do you believe the city's failure to provide these core services, adequately, accounts, at least partially, for the migration to surrounding suburbs of middle and upper middle class citizens? How will you get back to basics and address these issues?
And therein lies the debate.
(1.) Public Safety: Where should we currently put our money/time/efforts, schools and mental health or police and prisons?
(2.) Infrastructure: Is it the role of government to build rail lines and zone for TOD, or build roads and zone for Suburban, auto oriented development?
I would say there is another aspect that people often consider and that is...
(3) "quality of life". If a city does not offer good amenities and quality of life options (parks, attractive public spaces, art, etc.), another city will and then you may find yourself at a competitive disadvantage and your city will begin to lose jobs, population, and taxes. "Come to OUR CITY! WE have _______!!! But there again, some would argue to let the private/non-profit sector fill that role, for if the government does the basics well and the private sector thrives then the amenities and quality of life offerings will improve as well.
Quote from: TheArtist on May 30, 2014, 07:26:02 AM
(2.) Infrastructure: Is it the role of government to build rail lines and zone for TOD, or build roads and zone for Suburban, auto oriented development?
Both really. Just not in the same place.
Quote from: TheArtist on May 30, 2014, 07:26:02 AM
And therein lies the debate.
(1.) Public Safety: Where should we currently put our money/time/efforts, schools and mental health or police and prisons?
(2.) Infrastructure: Is it the role of government to build rail lines and zone for TOD, or build roads and zone for Suburban, auto oriented development?
I would say there is another aspect that people often consider and that is...
(3) "quality of life". If a city does not offer good amenities and quality of life options (parks, attractive public spaces, art, etc.), another city will and then you may find yourself at a competitive disadvantage and your city will begin to lose jobs, population, and taxes. "Come to OUR CITY! WE have _______!!! But there again, some would argue to let the private/non-profit sector fill that role, for if the government does the basics well and the private sector thrives then the amenities and quality of life offerings will improve as well.
I understand the debate, but we already have streets and really must maintain them as a high priority. If the way they've been maintained over the recent past is any indication of the way rail lines would be maintained, I'd just as soon they not build them. IMO government too often forgets what its primary functions are.
I also believe that a safe, well maintained, clean and beautiful city goes a long way toward enhancing quality of life.
Event page on facebook...shows 27 people attending.
https://www.facebook.com/events/1446840645557622/?ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming
How about TulsaNow posters coming out to this?
It would be nice to meet some of the people I don't know and joke around with those of you I do know...
Bribe me with some Kentucky bourbon and I'll show up.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 02, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Bribe me with some Kentucky bourbon and I'll show up.
Speaking of Kentucky bourbon, you ever tried Bulleit Bourbon?
don't worry guys, I'll spin this back onto topic once answered. 8)
Quote from: Hoss on June 02, 2014, 02:19:34 PM
Speaking of Kentucky bourbon, you ever tried Bulleit Bourbon?
don't worry guys, I'll spin this back onto topic once answered. 8)
If you like Bulleit Bourbon. You should try the Bulliet Rye. Fantastic neat, on the rocks or in an Old Fashioned.
Foolish Things doesn't serve liquor, correct?
I can't attend. Hope it goes well.
You guys should try Scissortail Bourbon. Made in Oklahoma.
I have a bottle of Bulleit bourbon for conan. I owe him in a trade for Slim Jim peppers.
Be there tomorrow.
Quote from: Claude on May 30, 2014, 11:02:56 PM
I understand the debate, but we already have streets and really must maintain them as a high priority. If the way they've been maintained over the recent past is any indication of the way rail lines would be maintained, I'd just as soon they not build them. IMO government too often forgets what its primary functions are.
I also believe that a safe, well maintained, clean and beautiful city goes a long way toward enhancing quality of life.
At one time Tulsa had 6,000 people per square miles paying for the roads within each square mile. Then we went to around 3,000 people per square mile, then to around 2,000 people per square mile. Then we keep adding more "lane miles" within each square mile "wider lanes, more lanes, larger intersections, etc." To the point where we essentially have double the roads per the population that is actually needed (aka fewer people trying to pay for more and more roads who then seemed baffled at how costly it is to maintain them). And we make it illegal to create good urban infill with our current zoning laws which if changed in areas would decrease road trips and increase the number of people/taxpayers, per square mile to help pay for the infrastructure.
Was reading the other day about how one city was a little worried that their transit ridership was going down after having gone up for so long. Then they looked at some other numbers and were startled to notice that car trips were also down, yet population and jobs were up?! What was happening was their pedestrian friendly/bike friendly zoning and infrastructure was making it so that more and more people were able and willing to get around via bikes and walking, decreasing both the need for transit and road use/wear and tear.
Quote from: RecycleMichael on June 02, 2014, 03:05:27 PM
You guys should try Scissortail Bourbon. Made in Oklahoma.
I have a bottle of Bulleit bourbon for conan. I owe him in a trade for Slim Jim peppers.
Be there tomorrow.
Aged for three months? I've got socks that have gone longer without being washed.
The plan is to video this forum and share it through the forum.
Great. Now I have to wear long pants and a clean shirt.
Will I see you guys there?
Now that I committed, I got an email yesterday afternoon telling me I'm getting some slots driving a pace car for the Tulsa Tough crit races this weekend and driver/spotter orientation is at 6:30 at Zoe's on Brookside tonight. So that means I'm out. I was looking forward to it.
Quote from: RecycleMichael on May 14, 2014, 08:12:09 AM
This is scheduled for Tuesday June 4th
This may have been addressed already...but when is this? Today is Tuesday the 3rd?
Thanks!
Quote from: Ben on June 03, 2014, 09:10:04 AM
This may have been addressed already...but when is this? Today is Tuesday the 3rd?
Thanks!
Interesting, he posted last Weds. that it was "a week from today".
Which is it RM? Today or tomorrow the 4th?
Wednesday the 4th
Quote from: RecycleMichael on June 03, 2014, 11:20:32 AM
Wednesday the 4th
In that case, I can still accept the bribe of bourbon and be there.
Public Forum With Tulsa District Four City Council Candidates is Tonighthttp://kwgs.com/post/public-forum-tulsa-district-four-city-council-candidates-tonight (http://kwgs.com/post/public-forum-tulsa-district-four-city-council-candidates-tonight)
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QuoteTulsa district four city council candidates participate in a public forum tonight.
The forum is at Foolish Things Coffee, 1001 S Main St., at 6 p.m.
Meg Sutherland with TulsaNow said it's voters' only chance to meet the candidates before the primary.
"Three of the district four city council candidates will be present for interested candidates to ask them questions," Sutherland said. "It's an opportunity to ask questions prior to the vote June 24."
Blake Ewing, Dan Patten and Elissa Harvill are participating. Julian Morgan will not be attending.
Sutherland said they chose this race for a forum because the district covers an important swath of the city.
"There are a lot of great things happening downtown. There are some not-great things, like the cut in transit," Sutherland said. "There are just some very important, pivotal things that stem out of downtown and midtown, and we wanted an opportunity to address those."
City councilors elected this year will serve two-year terms.
Hey, I enjoyed the forum this evening. Kudos to anyone who has the guts to run for public office and talk in front of crowds. Good turnout and I got to see a few of the local posters I enjoy around here.
My ranking?
1. Blake Ewing
2. Dewey's campaign worker
3. Alyssa the cheerleader who likes pretty things and movers/shakers.
BTW, this place has killer good coffee.
We had a crowd of 79 people. Saw or heard news coverage on NPR, KRMG, Channel 8 and saw that Channel 2 was there the whole time.
Quote from: AquaMan on June 04, 2014, 08:20:16 PM
Hey, I enjoyed the forum this evening. Kudos to anyone who has the guts to run for public office and talk in front of crowds. Good turnout and I got to see a few of the local posters I enjoy around here.
Meet any posters you don't enjoy? Were they made of cardboard?
:D
I would also like to thank all the candidates for taking the time and meeting with the community.
My one issue I had that has been eating at me a bit (and I don't mean to single out in an attacking manner) was Elissa Harvill's comment on wanting to stop aggressive panhandling. Although there is a difference between regular panhandling and some very annoying means of panhandling I still hope the overall statement was a poor choice of words. The issue isn't panhandling at all. That is simply a bi-product of our poverty / homeless issue. And I would be very interested in hearing her elaborate more on that issue and what she intends to do in the particular area. Not only on an elected level, but a humanitarian level.
Quote from: Brad on June 04, 2014, 10:16:21 PM
I would also like to thank all the candidates for taking the time and meeting with the community.
My one issue I had that has been eating at me a bit (and I don't mean to single out in an attacking manner) was Elissa Harville's comment on wanting to stop aggressive panhandling. Although there is a difference between regular panhandling and some very annoying means of panhandling I still hope the overall statement was a poor choice of words. The issue isn't panhandling at all. That is simply a bi-product of our poverty / homeless issue. And I would be very interested in hearing her elaborate more on that issue and what she intends to do in the particular area. Not only on an elected level, but a humanitarian level.
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
I was standing in the back wondering how to explain to Dan how a directional microphone works via hand gestures.
It was by far the toughest questions I have seen in a candidate forum.
Quote from: Red Arrow on June 04, 2014, 09:40:39 PM
Meet any posters you don't enjoy? Were they made of cardboard?
:D
Probably did but not all are willing to divulge their online nom de plumes. I was careful to sit on the high profile row with a lawyer on one side and a bicycle enthusiast on the other side. The cowboy in fatigues did resemble a cardboard cutout.
You should have come! Or maybe you did.
Quote from: AquaMan on June 05, 2014, 04:59:53 AM
You should have come! Or maybe you did.
Didn't go.
1. The grass needed cutting. I didn't cut it while it was wet from the previous rain sets and it was getting pretty tall in some spots. It's cut now, before the next batch of rain.
2. I live in Bixby. I'm not so sure I am entitled to grill Tulsa City candidates.
Quote from: AquaMan on June 05, 2014, 04:59:53 AM
Probably did but not all are willing to divulge their online nom de plumes. I was careful to sit on the high profile row with a lawyer on one side and a bicycle enthusiast on the other side. The cowboy in fatigues did resemble a cardboard cutout.
You should have come! Or maybe you did.
They had a nice cameo of you on KJRH last night. We just happened to tune in at the right time to catch the story. I rank them the same as you did. I admire Alyssa's desire to serve. More people should be willing to roll up their sleeves and jump in. (No, Aqua, not me, for the umpteenth time!) I'm sure there are many committees someone like her can serve on throughout the community where that enthusiasm will be appreciated and utilized.
I appreciate that Blake is willing to act and speak without regard to being re-elected. We need many more like him. I get the impression Dan is trying to start a political career. I think he will make a perfect politician some day and would fit in well in the Oklahoma House or Senate. :o
I was really impressed with the turn-out and MC and I will make it a point to attend more forums.
There were two more things which impressed me most about Blake: his commitment to transit and doing a great job of explaining Form Based Code in a way that people could understand it. Carlos did a great job moderating.
It was also good to see some of the stakeholders in District 4 attending.
Well Done TN!
Elissa.... FYI
Thank you all for putting this on. I know events like this are a lot of work. I really appreciated the chance to hear from those three in person. Just out of curiosity, does anybody know why the fourth candidate did not come (Julian Morgan I believe)?
Quote from: Conan71 on June 05, 2014, 08:32:13 AM
I admire Alyssa's desire to serve. More people should be willing to roll up their sleeves and jump in. (No, Aqua, not me, for the umpteenth time!) I'm sure there are many committees someone like her can serve on throughout the community where that enthusiasm will be appreciated and utilized.
That was the same thing i came away thinking about her. I appreciate somebody who who wants to lead with questions, and I understand being better in writing then speaking. And I appreciate some of what she seems to see as a positive direction for Tulsa, but a few years serving on committees to really understand the issues and system seems like it would help her out a lot.
again, thanks making this happen!
Sounds like it was a good forum. Really wish I could have come, was just a couple blocks away but was obeying a rather grumpy HWMBO wading through a small backlog of Purchase Orders, Receiving Vouchers, Invoices, Receipts, Deposits, etc. etc. and putting everything into Quick Books. Then on top of that battling an intractable computer virus of some sort that took quite a while to get rid of. No more internet surfing during work hours for the employees on the company computer! Compared to what I was going through the candidate forum sounded absolutely delightful.
Might there be a video of the forum somewhere to peruse?
Quote from: TheArtist on June 05, 2014, 09:32:41 AM
Sounds like it was a good forum. Really wish I could have come, was just a couple blocks away but was obeying a rather grumpy HWMBO wading through a small backlog of Purchase Orders, Receiving Vouchers, Invoices, Receipts, Deposits, etc. etc. and putting everything into Quick Books. Then on top of that battling an intractable computer virus of some sort that took quite a while to get rid of. No more internet surfing during work hours for the employees on the company computer! Compared to what I was going through the candidate forum sounded absolutely delightful.
Malwarebytes (free) is your friend!! And install on a CD/DVD as well as on the machine - some nasties can get around the on-board version.
Plus all the other anti-virus and firewall stuff you
have to be using!!
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 05, 2014, 09:34:58 AM
Malwarebytes (free) is your friend!! And install on a CD/DVD as well as on the machine - some nasties can get around the on-board version.
Plus all the other anti-virus and firewall stuff you have to be using!!
Sorry to hijack the thread. But just out of curiosity, if you have Norton and McAfee and perhaps add the Malwarebytes, will they conflict with each other in any way? And really, I am just banning the employees from downloading anything or surfing the net on that computer so that should help the most.
Quote from: TheArtist on June 05, 2014, 11:57:51 AM
Sorry to hijack the thread. But just out of curiosity, if you have Norton and McAfee and perhaps add the Malwarebytes, will they conflict with each other in any way? And really, I am just banning the employees from downloading anything or surfing the net on that computer so that should help the most.
Do not use McAfee or Norton! They are almost as bad as having a virus, they slow your machine down something awful.
If you have those, get rid of them and download Avast. That's what I used on my last Windows machines with no trouble. MC is still on a Windows machine at home and she swears by it.
Get a Mac next time, no worries about malware and viruses with a Mac.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 05, 2014, 12:17:42 PM
Do not use McAfee or Norton! They are almost as bad as having a virus, they slow your machine down something awful.
If you have those, get rid of them and download Avast. That's what I used on my last Windows machines with no trouble. MC is still on a Windows machine at home and she swears by it.
Get a Mac next time, no worries about malware and viruses with a Mac.
Second everything Conan says, also through AVG out as another free option.
Quote from: Ben on June 05, 2014, 09:29:16 AM
Thank you all for putting this on. I know events like this are a lot of work. I really appreciated the chance to hear from those three in person. Just out of curiosity, does anybody know why the fourth candidate did not come (Julian Morgan I believe)?
They did not respond to our invitation.
Quote from: TheArtist on June 05, 2014, 11:57:51 AM
Sorry to hijack the thread. But just out of curiosity, if you have Norton and McAfee and perhaps add the Malwarebytes, will they conflict with each other in any way? And really, I am just banning the employees from downloading anything or surfing the net on that computer so that should help the most.
They should not - I have never had that issue. I use Symantec Endpoint Protection at work and it seems to do pretty well - IT recommends Malwarebytes. Had a root virus sneak by one time and Malwarebytes got it with a DVD version....installed onto DVD rewritable during the install process....not just on the C: drive. Pernicious little bass-turds!!
At home I use AVG free and Zonealarm free for anti-virus/firewall. Sometimes a little aggravating to set up, but not much and they do very well together. And Malwarebytes. Have gotten virus' a time or two, but have always been able to get them out. Also, I used to use SpyBot Search and Destroy...still do on old XP machine, but haven't on the Win 7's yet. http://www.safer-networking.org/ for Spybot.
I also run everything behind a Cisco Linksys EA4500 router for wi-fi and wired. That seems to help some, too. (EA6500 looks really good, so may have to upgrade soon....)
Nothing will get everything everytime, but I have had very few problems with this combination.
As for banning - well, good luck with that! Put stuff in front of your computer(s) to stop as much as possible from getting in. I'm sure you have conscientious people, but sometimes stuff just happens....I have accidentally clicked on wrong thing before and gotten in way deep before I realized what had happened. We can talk more in PM if want, or I guess we could have a thread? Seems like there was one sometime back on related topics....
And now, back to the regularly scheduled diatribes.....
Sorry I missed it - really wanted to come see, but was still out of town like always....