...hopefully this is the right place to post...if not, please feel free to move it.
I'm kinda meh on the new design (just announced by the Governor on her Twitter feed).
(http://media2.kjrh.com/photo/2016/08/22/Capture_1471889797124_44789904_ver1.0_640_480.PNG)
Thoughts?
I like this one better
(http://www.customlicenseplates.com/newmexico2larger.jpg)
Quote from: Hoss on August 22, 2016, 01:45:25 PM
...hopefully this is the right place to post...if not, please feel free to move it.
I'm kinda meh on the new design (just announced by the Governor on her Twitter feed).
(http://media2.kjrh.com/photo/2016/08/22/Capture_1471889797124_44789904_ver1.0_640_480.PNG)
Thoughts?
Extremely meh.
Meh.
On the bright side, not horrible.
Quote from: Conan71 on August 22, 2016, 02:00:59 PM
I like this one better
(http://www.customlicenseplates.com/newmexico2larger.jpg)
Who DOESN'T like fajitas?!!??!!
That is awful. Ugh!
Quote from: cannon_fodder on August 22, 2016, 03:11:34 PM
My friend, Angie, figured this out and posted it on Facebook:
1) Oklahoma's new license plate
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqeb1BGUEAAsH2Q.png)
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2) Google result #10 for "Scissor Tail Flycatcher"
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/87/6e/fd/876efd504f63ca9550dbd9f59ce310b1.jpg)
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3) New License Plate!
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14051757_10207281048569680_5395148283006951752_n.jpg?oh=34c1a0a26c221423f328bcd9f01c2397&oe=5845B9EB)
The image is copyrighted by a Flickr user and won an award for wildlife photos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mcaliens/536647403
Now, obviously, it could be coincidence at that's what the bird looks like in flight. But it sure it a remarkable comparison.
The tail feathers are what sealed the deal for me.
Quote from: cannon_fodder on August 22, 2016, 03:11:34 PM
My friend, Angie, figured this out and posted it on Facebook:
1) Oklahoma's new license plate
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqeb1BGUEAAsH2Q.png)
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2) Google result #10 for "Scissor Tail Flycatcher"
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/87/6e/fd/876efd504f63ca9550dbd9f59ce310b1.jpg)
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3) New License Plate!
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14051757_10207281048569680_5395148283006951752_n.jpg?oh=34c1a0a26c221423f328bcd9f01c2397&oe=5845B9EB)
The image is copyrighted by a Flickr user and won an award for wildlife photos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mcaliens/536647403
Now, obviously, it could be coincidence at that's what the bird looks like in flight. But it sure it a remarkable comparison.
Good grief...
We probably paid several hundred thousand for a search committee, various designs, etc...then at the last minute someone does an "oh smile we need a design and I've pissed away all the money on eyeliner, peroxide for my hair and new tires for the RV. Come on Google don't let me down."
Who cares what the plate looks like?
Quote from: davideinstein on August 22, 2016, 04:43:56 PM
Who cares what the plate looks like?
anyone with a vehicle???
Quote from: AngieB on August 22, 2016, 04:11:39 PM
The tail feathers are what sealed the deal for me.
That's how we roll in this state - starting with the establishment of settlements here at Land Run time, through the theft of the capital from one town to another....Did Mary Failin' have any say in this? Or was it just one of her appointed minions? Just curious...
Not a horrible design - I love the Scissortail Flycatchers!
Better than meh but not much.
The last design was to make Oklahoma plates machine-readable in an attempt to jump on the automated-enforcement bandwagon.
That, and the 3M decal process was much cheaper than embossed steel plates.
The handout:
"The new design will act as a travelling billboard for those looking to experience and explore our beautiful state," said Fallin. "Just as important, the new plates are more clearly visible at night and will aid our law enforcement officers as they work to keep us safe."
Oklahoma's previous plates — which were more than seven years old — were past warranty and beginning to deteriorate, dulling the reflective sheeting on them and making them more difficult to see at night.
The Oklahoma Safety Council and the Oklahoma City Fraternal Order of Police had spoken out during this year's legislative session about the importance of more visible license plates, which are used by law enforcement officers to locate suspected felons and respond to Amber and Silver Alerts.
State officials also spoke about the importance of the new license plates in increasing compliance with insurance and registration laws. All drivers must acquire a new plate by the end of 2017 and show proof of both insurance and vehicle registration.
Oklahoma Tax Commissioner Dawn Cash said the state would also gain from increasing registration compliance.
"The Tax Commission estimates that the state is owed approximately $4 million from thousands of Oklahomans who are out of compliance and failed to pay their registration fees last year," Cash said. "Not only is that unfair to the Oklahomans who are following the law and registering their vehicles, it also significantly diminishes revenue going to public schools, local governments and other priority needs. New license plates will help us reduce non-compliance and enforce the rules of the road."
New plates were authorized by House Bill 3208, authored by Rep. Earl Sears and Sen. Clark Jolley.
So basically, our last license plates were cheap and are worn out now, government needs to be able to track us better, and they need to raise revenue. So time for new plates!
I wonder how much the "visibility" argument is really about visibility to electronic devices scanning vehicles?
Quote from: patric on August 23, 2016, 12:10:17 AM
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That, and the 3M decal process was much cheaper than embossed steel plates.
We haven't had embossed steel plates for several years.
Quote from: cannon_fodder on August 23, 2016, 08:34:02 AM
I wonder how much the "visibility" argument is really about visibility to electronic devices scanning vehicles?
Since im going to be a traveling billboard do I get revenue from TRAVELOK.COM ?
Maybe the next generation of autonomous vehicles will scan my plate and play tourism commercials on their HUD display? "Follow me to the promised land!"
Quote from: AngieB on August 23, 2016, 08:56:30 AM
We haven't had embossed steel plates for several years.
We embossed before the last redesign up until those were gone. That's been what now..10 years? I still have two of my old Indian shield plates I saved.
Quote from: Hoss on August 23, 2016, 10:37:19 AM
We embossed before the last redesign up until those were gone. That's been what now..10 years? I still have two of my old Indian shield plates I saved.
Loved the shield plates. One of the better ones I personally can remember.
We used to get new plates every year. That was a pain....
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 23, 2016, 02:17:56 PM
We used to get new plates every year. That was a pain....
I remember that as a child. Went to the decals in the late seventies if memory serves.
I paid $23 and got a personalized plate.
Look at these options too...
https://www.ok.gov/tax/Individuals/Motor_Vehicle/Forms_&_Publications/Specialty_Plate_Forms/Special_Interest__Plates.html
Quote from: Hoss on August 23, 2016, 02:44:16 PM
I remember that as a child. Went to the decals in the late seventies if memory serves.
I wasnt clear; the whole tag art is actually a decal that can be peeled off the aluminum plate. Not recommended.
Quote from: patric on August 23, 2016, 03:08:40 PM
I wasnt clear; the whole tag art is actually a decal that can be peeled off the aluminum plate. Not recommended.
Probably cheaper than paint.
Quote from: Hoss on August 23, 2016, 02:44:16 PM
I remember that as a child. Went to the decals in the late seventies if memory serves.
I was told we went to the stickers after the plate factory burned then they realized stickers were a good deal cheaper than new plates every year. Seems like we went to the sticker plates for good around 1980.
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Alternatives
(http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/42/5424c051-3e66-5bb8-b0e3-441be0894e45/586d8c8d42ca6.image.jpg?resize=760%2C380)
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/government/bison-license-plates-a-hit-with-oklahomans-with--plus/article_0927944c-c3e5-5501-ae69-2f7a037b1c92.html
The wife said this is Oklahoma's start to the Hunger Games.. Start with a Mocking jay on the plate and next you know they are calling numbers in each county.
I think it's awesome we still haven't complied with RealID but now have new plates we pay for so OTA can test their new plate reading tech on the Creek to bill you higher rates for using the turnpike if you don't have a Pikepass so OTA can make more money to rebuild the Muskogee Turnpike every 3 years.
I have the new bird tag. Eh. It's fine. Whatever.
A friend strongly recommended that I take an X-acto and slice the stickers so that if someone tries to remove them they come off in pieces. Additionally, she said to replace the normal Phillips head screws with socket head screws to make it more difficult to remove/steal the tag. And since the bird tags are brand new, thieves will target them.
Inherently I don't think it's a horrible design. What irks me the most about it is that we are forced to pay extra for it. We didn't pay for the last redesign. If lawmakers could balance books, this wouldn't happen. Just a way to reinforce to the Oklahoma people that our lawmakers are incompetent.
Quote from: AngieB on January 10, 2017, 09:10:09 AM
A friend strongly recommended that I take an X-acto and slice the stickers so that if someone tries to remove them they come off in pieces. Additionally, she said to replace the normal Phillips head screws with socket head screws to make it more difficult to remove/steal the tag. And since the bird tags are brand new, thieves will target them.
Very common in the lower-socio-economic areas of town. Ye ole' cutting of the tag sticker. But steeling a plate in Oklahoma doesn't help very much, as any turnpike has auto-plate readers. And if you cut the tag so it is harder to remove, isn't the result that someone would just have to steel multiple pieces of your sticker and then put them on their vehicle (in that it was already on your vehicle in all cut up)?
Quote from: cannon_fodder on January 10, 2017, 11:47:39 AM
Very common in the lower-socio-economic areas of town. Ye ole' cutting of the tag sticker. But steeling a plate in Oklahoma doesn't help very much, as any turnpike has auto-plate readers. And if you cut the tag so it is harder to remove, isn't the result that someone would just have to steel multiple pieces of your sticker and then put them on their vehicle (in that it was already on your vehicle in all cut up)?
Who would bother with multiple pieces? If you slice it on the diagonal a couple of different ways after it is adhered to the tag. It's a huge pain in the @ss to remove and put on another plate. It's about deterring the theft. Nothing will stop it altogether.
I don't understand your logic of not stealing a plate because the turnpike has auto-plate readers. You don't have to use turnpikes. I rarely do.
I could have sworn someone posted a composite photo showing the license plate overlaid with the internet clip art that is our new design.
Quote from: patric on January 10, 2017, 01:47:34 PM
I could have sworn someone posted a composite photo showing the license plate overlaid with the internet clip art that is our new design.
I did, but I pulled it. It was actually drawn from a copyrighted photo that was about the 20th result or so when you google image search 'scissortail flycatcher'.
My wife and I were in the lane next to a car with one of these tags Sunday. From a design aspect, it is harder to read the tag letters and numbers due to the choice in colors and pattern. I thought it was just me, but when I said something to her, she had the same issue trying to decipher the letters and numbers. It's not like reading tags is a usual exercise for me, but it really struck me how the identification of the tag is somewhat lost by design. I hope LEO's have better luck with that than I did.
Quote from: Conan71 on January 10, 2017, 04:00:37 PM
My wife and I were in the lane next to a car with one of these tags Sunday. From a design aspect, it is harder to read the tag letters and numbers due to the choice in colors and pattern. I thought it was just me, but when I said something to her, she had the same issue trying to decipher the letters and numbers. It's not like reading tags is a usual exercise for me, but it really struck me how the identification of the tag is somewhat lost by design. I hope LEO's have better luck with that than I did.
The big thing now is that they be machine-readable. That was the primary reason we jumped on the 3M-decal-versus-embossed bandwagon for the last plates.
QuoteState officials said Oklahoma's previous plates – which were more than seven years old – were past warranty and beginning to deteriorate, dulling the reflective sheeting on them and making them more difficult to see at night.
My car tag has a warranty? I can read it ok and most everyone else's; was there another reason we had to upgrade?
QuoteThis year, every motorist will pay $5 (extra) for the newly designed plate when they go to register their vehicle or renew their tag.
The new plates cost the state about $2.05 to produce, the Associated Press reports.
Most of the additional revenue will go into a newly created State Public Safety Fund that will be available for the Legislature to spend to "support public safety" in the state.
http://kfor.com/2017/01/03/oklahomas-newly-designed-license-plates-hitting-the-road
Oh, thats more like the Department of Public Safety we know.
How long did we have the Oklahoma is OK! plates? 20 years? For some reason those were good enough. Looking out my window at the parking lot, all the plates seem just fine. I haven't noticed a single plate that looked worn, overly faded, flaking, or anything else. Being "out of warranty" means jack sh!t.
They want the ability to digitally track citizens. It makes red light cameras easier. It makes tickets on the turnpike easier. It makes auto-speed tickets easier. And it makes putting up random scanners to track everyone easier. Which is good because, you know, small government and stuff.
Why not be honest about it so we can have a real debate?
Quote from: cannon_fodder on January 11, 2017, 08:44:47 AM
How long did we have the Oklahoma is OK! plates? 20 years? For some reason those were good enough. Looking out my window at the parking lot, all the plates seem just fine. I haven't noticed a single plate that looked worn, overly faded, flaking, or anything else. Being "out of warranty" means jack sh!t.
They want the ability to digitally track citizens. It makes red light cameras easier. It makes tickets on the turnpike easier. It makes auto-speed tickets easier. And it makes putting up random scanners to track everyone easier. Which is good because, you know, small government and stuff.
Why not be honest about it so we can have a real debate?
So we can't have Real ID because that is government over-reach and a privacy breach etc. but scannable and trackable tags aren't. M'kay.
The new plate is really hideous looking. Glad I now have this option:
(http://thelicenseplatesite.com/1images/4ed07c02135431126201164122.jpg)
Quote from: Conan71 on January 11, 2017, 10:55:43 AM
So we can't have Real ID because that is government over-reach and a privacy breach etc. but scannable and trackable tags aren't. M'kay.
The Okie legislature voted unanimously in 2007 to block REAL ID out of concern for identity theft, and the privacy and security of personally identifying information.
Today we compile running databases of people's habits based on automated tracking of license plates (and other things).
I guess the only real difference is whether we have the means to order the data in a way that can be monetized.
Quote from: AngieB on January 10, 2017, 09:10:09 AM
I have the new bird tag. Eh. It's fine. Whatever.
A friend strongly recommended that I take an X-acto and slice the stickers so that if someone tries to remove them they come off in pieces. Additionally, she said to replace the normal Phillips head screws with socket head screws to make it more difficult to remove/steal the tag. And since the bird tags are brand new, thieves will target them.
Don't hear much about it lately, but stealing the decal used to happen quite a bit. I cut 4 lines horizontal and 4 vertical on every decal. Been a long time, but have had someone try to take off and they gave up after a couple little blocks.
Never had a tag stolen but it does happen quite a bit. Hex head (socket) helps. Torx screw with the security pin is good, too.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on January 12, 2017, 12:09:23 AM
Don't hear much about it lately, but stealing the decal used to happen quite a bit. I cut 4 lines horizontal and 4 vertical on every decal. Been a long time, but have had someone try to take off and they gave up after a couple little blocks.
Never had a tag stolen but it does happen quite a bit. Hex head (socket) helps. Torx screw with the security pin is good, too.
Good one, I never thought of torx head. You can't fake that one when trying to remove, either you have the correct torx bit or you don't. There's no finagling with a screwdriver, crescent wrench, or pliers if it's a round head design screw.
Quote from: Conan71 on January 12, 2017, 10:15:12 AM
Good one, I never thought of torx head. You can't fake that one when trying to remove, either you have the correct torx bit or you don't. There's no finagling with a screwdriver, crescent wrench, or pliers if it's a round head design screw.
As with every solution, there may be issues. I have a couple of cars that use Torx - in particular for the tag light fixtures, so I carry a set of drivers with me in the trunk toolbox....Crooks probably do too.... No perfect world.
Well its almost time again to replace our old-fashioned internet clipart license tags with something
more original
cleaner and easier to read
more profitable to the Department of Public Safety
New license plate design coming for Oklahoma through rebranding effort
Lt. Gov. Matt Pinnell, who also doubles as the state's secretary of tourism and branding, wants to ditch the widely criticized scissor-tailed flycatcher license plates Gov. Mary Fallin unveiled in 2016.
https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/new-license-plate-design-coming-for-oklahoma-through-rebranding-effort/article_bba2192c-a554-5d3d-bef7-ef53db063f38.html
https://oklahoman.com/article/5635590/oklahoma-to-get-new-license-plates-logo-slogan
Quote from: patric on July 09, 2019, 12:56:19 PM
Well its almost time again to replace our old-fashioned internet clipart license tags with something
more original
cleaner and easier to read
more profitable to the Department of Public Safety
New license plate design coming for Oklahoma through rebranding effort
Lt. Gov. Matt Pinnell, who also doubles as the state's secretary of tourism and branding, wants to ditch the widely criticized scissor-tailed flycatcher license plates Gov. Mary Fallin unveiled in 2016.
https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/new-license-plate-design-coming-for-oklahoma-through-rebranding-effort/article_bba2192c-a554-5d3d-bef7-ef53db063f38.html
https://oklahoman.com/article/5635590/oklahoma-to-get-new-license-plates-logo-slogan
They would have to be an improvement over what we have now.
Quote from: swake on July 09, 2019, 01:01:18 PM
They would have to be an improvement over what we have now.
Never challenge "worse".
Quote from: Red Arrow on July 09, 2019, 05:29:26 PM
Never challenge "worse".
We are talking about improving over something Mary Fallin did. I'm pretty confident.
Quote from: swake on July 09, 2019, 06:47:06 PM
We are talking about improving over something Mary Fallin did. I'm pretty confident.
I understand your position and am inclined to agree but....
As soon as you say things cannot possibly get worse, they do.
:D
Quote from: swake on July 09, 2019, 01:01:18 PM
They would have to be an improvement over what we have now.
He is the same kind of idiot as in Failing's regime. Nothing wrong with the slogan - it's Ok. And trying to propagandize like that will just make for ridicule. Think in terms of New Hampshire's "Live Free of Die" slogan.
The tag sucks. Cannot see the letters on a couple of areas of that tag. Should just go back to the old style.