https://www.fox23.com/news/only-fox23-tulsa-intl-airport-will-build-new-gate-facility-international-flights/KBJRAWG4YFBOBMPAKC4MCSDRYY/?taid=6303ee6ab596c200013278a5&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem
Tulsa International will add a new gate and international customs terminal in an attempt to woo a weekly service to somewhere like Cancun.
Hot damn, was wondering when something like this would happen. Wish it was more than the "bare minimum" of an expansion, but perhaps this could lead to more updates/future expansions
Quote from: shavethewhales on August 23, 2022, 10:20:52 AM
https://www.fox23.com/news/only-fox23-tulsa-intl-airport-will-build-new-gate-facility-international-flights/KBJRAWG4YFBOBMPAKC4MCSDRYY/?taid=6303ee6ab596c200013278a5&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem
Tulsa International will add a new gate and international customs terminal in an attempt to woo a weekly service to somewhere like Cancun.
Maybe we will be able to go direct to other than Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, Denver, Salt Lake City, .....
In earlier times, the current gate locations were outside areas with benches. Could go outside and sit watching planes land. Especially nice during winter with a light snow!
Quote from: Red Arrow on August 24, 2022, 01:30:38 AM
Maybe we will be able to go direct to other than Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, Denver, Salt Lake City, .....
Current non-stops from TUL
American: Los Angeles, Phoenix, Dallas/Ft Worth, Austin, Chicago O'Hare, Miami, Charlotte, Washington National
Southwest: Las Vegas, Phoenix, Denver, Dallas Love, Austin, Houston Hobby, St Louis, Chicago Midway
Delta: Salt Lake City, Atlanta
United: Denver, Houston Intercontinental, Chicago O'Hare
Breeze: Tampa (seasonal), Nashville
Allegiant: Los Angeles, Phoenix/Mesa, Las Vegas, Orlando/Sanford, Destin (seasonal), Tampa (seasonal), Sarasota (seasonal)
Biggest holes are San Francisco and Seattle on the west coast and New York and Boston on the east coast (New York LGA starts this November on American), and resumption of previous routes that were cut during COVID like Minneapolis, Detroit, Washington Dulles, Baltimore and Newark. Also would be nice to have Frontier back, they previously flew to Denver and San Diego.
I think a Frontier or Allegiant could make a once-weekly Cancun or Cabo flight work.
https://www.tulsaairports.com/news/american-airlines-announces-new-nonstop-service-from-tulsa-to-new-york-city/
QuoteTULSA, OK – May 27, 2022 – Passengers flying from Tulsa International Airport will soon have a nonstop flight option when traveling to New York City. American Airlines today announced new nonstop service from Tulsa International Airport (TUL) to LaGuardia Airport (LGA) beginning November 3, 2022. Flights will operate once daily, year-round, on an Embraer 170 aircraft. Flights go on sale Monday, May 30th, on aa.com.
See also
https://www.tulsaairports.com/flight-info/non-stop-destinations/
I would love to see that chart that has weekly flights on the y axis and then timeline on the x axis. And just show how often cities pop up and disappear. My wife and I fly to DC pretty often. We haven't been able to make the direct flight work except once. When it was a layover on the way to Philly.
And I know I've been excited about new orleans, philly, nyc and probably a few other services. It seems like every year we get a new city offered that's 4x a week and it lasts a few months before they cut it back. And I'm not sure if that is because I remember it that way or if it is actually that way.
Quote from: BKDotCom on August 24, 2022, 11:23:00 AM
https://www.tulsaairports.com/news/american-airlines-announces-new-nonstop-service-from-tulsa-to-new-york-city/
See also
https://www.tulsaairports.com/flight-info/non-stop-destinations/
Embraer 170 is gonna be a miserable non-stop anywhere other than maybe Dallas....
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 24, 2022, 08:58:22 AM
In earlier times, the current gate locations were outside areas with benches. Could go outside and sit watching planes land. Especially nice during winter with a light snow!
In the 50s and maybe very early 60s, Philadelphia (PA) Int'l had an observation deck on the roof of one of the terminal wings. I think it was originally free but later on there was a turnstile like at public transit stations. $.10 as I remember. Inflation calculator says that is roughly $1.02 today. It was definitely in the era of piston powered airliners and the infamous Lockheed Electra before they fixed them. I also remember trip life insurance vending machines scattered about the terminals.
Dad would frequently fly to western PA and OH. I don't remember what Allegheny Airlines was flying at the time but it wasn't Lockheed Constellations. I think occasionally he would return on a DC-6. Probably mostly Convairs or maybe even a DC-3. Allegheny operated DC-3s from 1953 to 1966. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegheny_Airlines
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 24, 2022, 07:20:33 PM
Embraer 170 is gonna be a miserable non-stop anywhere other than maybe Dallas....
How come you think it'd be miserable? I honestly like the smaller regional jets. More often than not they are brand new. They can feel a bit more cramped in terms of the common aisle width and the bathrooms are not very comfortable especially if you are tall.
I think this is an interesting development for Tulsa to have the gate/facility integrated into the terminal. Is OKC's facility integrated into the terminal as well? I know a lot of the smaller international airports have the customs facilities in stand alone buildings. I think Tulsa could sustain a few flights like Cancun, etc. especially if you look at how many people from Tulsa, OKC, NWA, Wichita, Springfield fly to certain locations. I bet you could pull in a fair amount of travels to drive to Tulsa if it meant a direct flight internationally and not having to deal with DFW or other airports.
I don't think it'll be too bad either. Once you are in the seat they all feel the same to me, although turbulence always seems worse on a smaller plane.
I posted on OKCtalk about this and was told that OKC's recent terminal addition included international facilities, so they already have at least one gate built into their airport for international flights, but haven't landed one yet. I'd think they'd be ahead of us for a Cancun flight, but who knows. Obviously TUL thinks they have a shot at landing something major. I agree that it could work here, at least seasonally. I wonder how well Breeze's seasonal Tampa flight is doing?
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 24, 2022, 07:20:33 PM
Embraer 170 is gonna be a miserable non-stop anywhere other than maybe Dallas....
In the last several years I have flown on several Embraer aircraft, 120/145/175/200, and every time I'm on one all I can think is I'd rather be on a DC-9/MD80 than this thing.
The trips that were most fun was flying a Embraer 120 from OTH to SFO, having to get out and walk on the apron into the terminal at SFO and then get on a 757 from SFO to PHX.
Here is a plan showing the new addition. It will be visible as you drive in to the departures area.
(https://www.fox23.com/resizer/iVMAosv-cdS68Jhue03fqkC6cpA=/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-cmg/public/3V6XMB4R6BAY3GJBXVG4SLPXBA.png)
The new airport hotel is also under construction next to the parking garage.
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on August 26, 2022, 10:47:50 AM
In the last several years I have flown on several Embraer aircraft, 120/145/175/200, and every time I'm on one all I can think is I'd rather be on a DC-9/MD80 than this thing.
The trips that were most fun was flying a Embraer 120 from OTH to SFO, having to get out and walk on the apron into the terminal at SFO and then get on a 757 from SFO to PHX.
I hate those Embraer planes!
Quote from: SXSW on August 24, 2022, 10:49:06 AM
Current non-stops from TUL
American: Los Angeles, Phoenix, Dallas/Ft Worth, Austin, Chicago O'Hare, Miami, Charlotte, Washington National
Southwest: Las Vegas, Phoenix, Denver, Dallas Love, Austin, Houston Hobby, St Louis, Chicago Midway
Delta: Salt Lake City, Atlanta
United: Denver, Houston Intercontinental, Chicago O'Hare
Breeze: Tampa (seasonal), Nashville
Allegiant: Los Angeles, Phoenix/Mesa, Las Vegas, Orlando/Sanford, Destin (seasonal), Tampa (seasonal), Sarasota (seasonal)
Biggest holes are San Francisco and Seattle on the west coast and New York and Boston on the east coast (New York LGA starts this November on American), and resumption of previous routes that were cut during COVID like Minneapolis, Detroit, Washington Dulles, Baltimore and Newark. Also would be nice to have Frontier back, they previously flew to Denver and San Diego.
I think a Frontier or Allegiant could make a once-weekly Cancun or Cabo flight work.
Currently if I fly to Tulsa I take American because of the decent time of day for the nonstop flights. Southwest has a nonstop from PHX to TUL that departs PHX at 7PM (AZ time) and arrives at TUL at 11:10 PM, the return flight leaves TUL at 7AM and arrives PHX a 7:40AM (AZ time).
American leaves PHX at 12:15PM(AZ time) and I get to TUL at 3:30PM and the return flight leaves TUL at 2:45PM and gets to PHX at 3:15PM(AZ time).
I can't fly Allegiant from PHX Sky Harbor to Tulsa because there is no service, I have to drive 55 Miles to Mesa Gateway and the only flights between PHX and TUL are on Monday and Friday or sometimes Tuesday and Saturday. If I want to fly for a long weekend I have to fly to Springfield MO or Bentonville AR. Allegiant has no service from either airport to OKC.
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on August 28, 2022, 09:40:16 AM
Currently if I fly to Tulsa I take American because of the decent time of day for the nonstop flights. Southwest has a nonstop from PHX to TUL that departs PHX at 7PM (AZ time) and arrives at TUL at 11:10 PM, the return flight leaves TUL at 7AM and arrives PHX a 7:40AM (AZ time).
American leaves PHX at 12:15PM and I get to TUL at 3:30PM and the return flight leaves TUL at 2:45PM and gets to PHX at 3:15PM.
I can't fly Allegiant from PHX Sky Harbor to Tulsa because there is no service, I have to drive 65 Miles to Mesa Gateway and the only flights between PHX and TUL are on Monday and Friday or sometimes Tuesday and Saturday. If I want to fly for a long weekend I have to fly to Springfield MO or Bentonville AR. Allegiant has no service from either airport to OKC.
I think you have some time zone corrections to make on the American times.
Quote from: Red Arrow on August 28, 2022, 10:05:22 AM
I think you have some time zone corrections to make on the American times.
Yeah, not enough coffee this morning. ;D
I always joke that flying from TUL to PHX nonstop, if I could fall adjust my watch and fall asleep before take off and wake up in Phoenix it would be like a twenty minute nap during the summer time.
The early morning PHX nonstop on Southwest is convenient for connecting to California and Hawaii. You can leave Tulsa at 7 am and be in Hawaii at 1:30.
Quote from: SXSW on August 28, 2022, 12:30:49 PM
The early morning PHX nonstop on Southwest is convenient for connecting to California and Hawaii. You can leave Tulsa at 7 am and be in Hawaii at 1:30.
No disagreement there. I was just referring to my own preference. SW used to have two nonstops a day between TUL and PHX as well as PHX to TUL. Going either direction it was mid morning or mid afternoon. I'm just happy being back somewhere that I can get flights to where I want to go easily without having to drive two plus hours to Eugene/Springfield which the flight would then go to PDX, SFO, DEN, or SEA to get to anywhere, or almost five hours to Portland. Where I lived the airport was OTH for North Bend, and they had one in and one out a day that went to SFO. It would arrive around 11AM Pacific time and depart around 1PM Pacific.
I think I posted this before, the one time I knew my flight was not going to leave the terminal.
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Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on August 28, 2022, 01:46:45 PM
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That's never a good sign at the gate.
Remember the type of plane?
Quote from: Red Arrow on August 28, 2022, 03:37:36 PM
That's never a good sign at the gate.
Remember the type of plane?
It was an Embraer 120. The mechanic put three quarts of oil in before grounding it. I sent the pics to a friend in Phoenix to let him know to not to pick me up that evening, that I would be in the next day. They actually brought in another 120 for the next day because they couldn't fit all of us on the normal flight. Flying into SFO was interesting because on approach from the north all I could see was the tops of the GG bridge and the Sutro tower.
They finally upgraded that route to CRJ 200 a couple of years after the photo I took, but we still had to get on and off the plane on the apron at SFO.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fZC4dmg/0/ee4d709b/M/i-fZC4dmg-M.jpg) (https://kevinallsop.smugmug.com/Phone-pics/n-bhj3pK/i-fZC4dmg/A)
Hate those pushy A320 pilots
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Anyone else remember Metroliners? I rode in one from Tulsa to Wichita and back.
Another commuter plane had sling canvas seats but I don't remember the type of plane. Seat was NOT comfortable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Swearingen_Metroliner