So I got an updated tenate list for the Tulsa Hills Shopping Center.
Best Buy
Petsmart
Chili's
Bank of Oklahoma
DressBarn
RackRoom Shoes
Starbuck's
McDonald's
Chick-Fil-A
Ross
Lane Bryant
T.J. Maxx
Target
Lowe's
Belk
Unnamed Therater Chain
This info came from the developers web site. http://www.soonerinvestment.com/pdf_flyers/Tulsa_Hills-0706.pdf
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Originally posted by Who Cares
So I got an updated tenate list for the Tulsa Hills Shopping Center.
Best Buy
Petsmart
Chili's
Bank of Oklahoma
DressBarn
RackRoom Shoes
Starbuck's
McDonald's
Chick-Fil-A
Ross
Lane Bryant
T.J. Maxx
Target
Lowe's
Belk
Unnamed Therater Chain
This info came from the developers web site. http://www.soonerinvestment.com/pdf_flyers/Tulsa_Hills-0706.pdf
Nothing worth going out of my way for then. Just all the usual chains closer in for people west of the river. Maybe if that is a Super Target I might go there since it is fairly close, other side of the river or not.
Rape and scrape for a Chik-fil-A. What a waste of beautiful forest.
Same ol same ol, nothing I will go to either. But it is for those on that part of town who can use access to the "basics".
I wish Utica Square would get some more upscale or urban type stores. Would be nice to have some clothing stores like Urban Outfitters and Kenneth Cole.
Not even one new chain to the area in that list [V]
They say something is better than nothing but I am pretty disappointed in their choices so far and they have nothing as far as an entertainment venue.
If they want my opinion, they need to add a Little Dixie honky tonk and a Robbie's Bar BQ. Maybe even an Avalon Steak House like it use to be because the new one really stinks.
[8D]
Same crappy suburban box stores we see everywhere.
How disappointing! Weren't they promising stores that would be new to the Tulsa market??
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Originally posted by DScott28604
How disappointing! Weren't they promising stores that would be new to the Tulsa market??
What? You aren't excited for the McDonald's?
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Originally posted by deinstein
What? You aren't excited for the McDonald's?
Oh, I forgot about the McDonald's. That changes everything! [^][;)]
Supposedly Ruby Tuesday is scouting locations. I would imagine some of the unique ones may be later sign-ons. I wouldn't be suprised to see a bookstore of some type. The target will likely be like the one in owasso, not a supertarget, but will have a grocery section.
I personally dont see anything wrong with the list. The original plans called for big box type stores. So the list is not really shocking to me. I am more interested in what the smaller shops will be. At least it is a Target and not another WM.
Whatever goes in out there, I bet the place will be packed.
And after the crowds cease we can lease it to non-profit churches! Heck yeah!
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And after the crowds cease we can lease it to non-profit churches! Heck yeah!
HWY 75 is a main through fare. I seriously doubt this will fail.
You forgot to add Garden Center.
I don't know what that is, though.
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Originally posted by SoonerRiceGrad
You forgot to add Garden Center.
I don't know what that is, though.
It's the Garden Center portion of Lowe's.
http://www.journalrecord.com/article.cfm?recid=82633
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Seeking salvation in Tulsa Hills retail development
October 12, 2007
TULSA – For those in the retail community, the wound left by Tuesday's river tax vote may take a long time to heal.
"I think there's a lot of people who feel like I do today, who want to get their suitcases out and start packing," said Steve Walman, the owner of Walman Commercial Real Estate Services. "I mean, literally, I've talked to two people who said they wanted to get their suitcases out and move out."
Whatever its long-term implications, that failure to endorse Tulsa County's $399 million river improvements package didn't diminish the metro economy's overall health. While it would have drawn perhaps the lion's share of economic struggles and benefits from riverfront development, Tulsa's retail market – Walman's specialty – remains in a growth mode.
Nowhere is that potential more evident than at the $130 million Tulsa Hills project now rising from the formerly wooded eastern slopes at U.S. Highway 75 and S. 71st Street. By giving west Tulsa its first large-scale retail choices in generations – including the metro area's first Target store west of Yale Avenue – the 146-acre development promises to radically change shopping patterns while creating a tax base in a long-neglected region.
"That southwest corridor is going to create a whole new market, an entire market that's not even there," said Bob Parker, vice president of retail leasing and marketing for GBR Properties. "That's kind of a wild thing."
Like the river, Tulsa Hills has drawn some extensive sugarplum visions. Some west Tulsa analysts have equated its long-term importance to that of the river proposals, saying the 695,000-square-foot Tulsa Hills could jump-start office and residential development as well as other retail, and not just along the high-traffic yet economically barren 75 corridor, but also along the two-mile stretch of 71st to the river.
While he questioned how widespread such investment could be, Richard H. Monaghan, a retail specialist with CB Richard Ellis of Oklahoma, expects Tulsa Hills to achieve a historic first: leading residents east of the Arkansas River to the western side for groceries and other essentials.
"It's huge for west Tulsa, and how that trade area is established is going to be very interest to see," said Walman.
For their part, developers Sooner Investment Realty in Oklahoma City and Collett & Associates of Charlotte, N.C., will help clarify that potential with pre-leasing announcements at 11 a.m. today.
Like the river proposals, Tulsa Hills did not come without a squabble over public funding – in this case, an estimated $16.5 million in bonds for a tax-increment financing (TIF) district, generating an expected $13.5 million to pay for sewer, street, drainage and other infrastructure needs.
The developers received that TIF after projecting Tulsa Hills could generate more than $5 million a year in new sales taxes for the City of Tulsa and $1.7 million for Tulsa County, as well as $1.1 million in new ad valorem taxes. The City of Tulsa Public Works and Development Department has estimated Tulsa Hills could fuel from $1.3 million to $2.5 million a year in ad valorem taxes and $1.3 million to $8.5 million in sales tax.
Whether Tulsa Hills meets or exceeds those marks will of course depend on consumer spending, an area that has some economists concerned after months of uncertainties over a credit crunch, inflation risks, stock market instabilities and other question marks cluttering the national landscape. Such fears comprised much of the talk Parker heard Thursday in the International Council of Shopping Centers regional conference at San Antonio.
"I think everybody is sort of holding their breath to see what holiday sales are going to be," he said. "I think everybody's scared that people may not spend as much as they did last year. This could be a sort of stable Christmas, which is not necessarily good in our business. It will be very interesting to see what the consumer does."
Monaghan, who returned Thursday from the San Antonio gathering, said it all boils down to how comfortable Tulsans feel about their job, income and debt levels.
"There's some pretty good vibes here," said Parker by phone from the conference. "I don't think anybody here thinks we're on the verge of a recession, but every retailer down the line has announced slower, more modest growth plans for the next 12 to 18 months. People are being more cautious. I don't know if it's an election year or the capital markets or other things. I think you're still going to see growth; it's just going to be slower."
All those factors spurred leasing concerns that impacted not just existing properties, but also a string of huge Tulsa-area prospects announced over the past year promising millions of square feet in additional space. Although some of those plans died with the river vote, and some even before, Walman said several large multimillion-dollar projects continue forward, although perhaps at a slower pace.
"It's been a tough year for us," said Parker. "Ours are existing properties in mature markets. There's always something new and sexier being built. But in the last 30 days, it's been crazy good. I'm probably going to lease more in the third quarter than I did in all of the three quarters earlier this year."
Walman, who is working on large projects in Owasso, Broken Arrow and south Tulsa, suggested some developers have refocused their projects in the face of pre-leasing difficulties. The most interesting case came in Broken Arrow, where Broken Arrow Development LLC bought 68 acres diagonally across from Bass Pro Shops for construction of a St. John Health System hospital.
Hospitals may seem unusual retail anchors, especially with Bass Pro nearby, although the original St. John campus has proven a long-term blessing for Tulsa's most attractive lifestyle center, Utica Square.
"St. John drove that deal, bringing the retail behind that deal," said Walman.
For Walman, the blessings and difficulties behind today's market pale against the long-term message he believes Tuesday's vote sends.
"I really thought the city of Tulsa was poised to identify itself and stand out there and say, 'We're picking back up and we're going to become the best city to live in,' like we used to say in this state," he said. "Our vote was just the opposite. Right now I'm just absorbing the fact that we're not living in the city I thought we were in.
"I'm still getting over the fact that our city just told the state and every resident in it that we're not interested in being progressive, we're not interested in creating a better city," he said. "Just give me an extra lane on our road and we're happy."
If it's any comfort, at the San Antonio conference Parker said he heard few negative reflections from outsiders watching the Tulsa vote.
"We were sitting at lunch with some Oklahoma City developers, people who would have known about it and would have been paying attention," he said. "But there was a lot of disappointment, obviously, from the business world because of the shortsightedness of the no voters and the us-versus-them mentality."
Updated flyer showing stores and layout:
http://soonerinvestment.com/pdf_flyers/Tulsa_Hills-0607.pdf
It sure makes Tulsa look...bad. Many of us have that same feeling right now. Especially the remark about "absorbing the fact that we're living in a different city than we thought we were in." Yes, it has changed since the last council fiasco when Medlock and those buffoons were in place. That was a tip off.
But I bet that the businessmen watching also noted that 48% of the community WAS that progressive force they want to see before investing here. And they had to know, that had it not been for the pr blunders and the controversial political climate the city is sludging through, there would have been 10% more added to the count.
Tulsa Hills will be a good shot in the arm for that quandrant.
Its nothing for Tulsa to get excited about. To get there I would gave to drive 12 miles past at least one of each of those stores. How boring.
But I still happy there is large scale new retail going in Tulsa.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Its nothing for Tulsa to get excited about. To get there I would gave to drive 12 miles past at least one of each of those stores. How boring.
But I still happy there is large scale new retail going in Tulsa.
One thing that makes me happy is that this will be a draw into the city limits for jenks, glenpool, bixby, sapulpa, etc. We should line the city limits with retail, take the suburbs money, and then build what we really need in the middle.
Yes, and I wouldnt worry about this competing with any potential River District or Tulsa Landing. Those are completely different animals. More attraction/shopping/destination. This Tulsa Hills is your "basic every day needs" ho hum shopping area. Growth in that area will be able to support it, and once the tiff is paid off, will bring more taxes to Tulsa. Its a good deal, but not meant to make Tulsa special. The main thing is to get the River District going and get Tulsa something along its west bank to act as lifestyle attractors.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Its nothing for Tulsa to get excited about. To get there I would gave to drive 12 miles past at least one of each of those stores. How boring.
But I still happy there is large scale new retail going in Tulsa.
One thing that makes me happy is that this will be a draw into the city limits for jenks, glenpool, bixby, sapulpa, etc. We should line the city limits with retail, take the suburbs money, and then build what we really need in the middle.
That was the idea behind this TIF. The Tulsa Hills location was identified as one of two key retail development locations for the City of Tulsa. (The other is at I-44 and 129th East Ave.) The location will draw customers from Jenks, Glenpool, and Sapulpa, as well as west and south Tulsa. The list of tenants may not be inspiring, but people like to shop at those stores, and having located in Tulsa Hills, those chains probably won't be adding another location further south on U. S. 75 in Jenks or Glenpool.
The Artist makes a good point about competition with a Tulsa Landing or Jenks River District. Tulsa Hills is meant to be basic big box retail, so it shouldn't deter the kind of shops you find in Branson Landing from locating on the west bank.
It may be big box development, but I can't wait for it to open. I live in Sand Springs, and yes, I'll be bringing more money back into the Tulsa area as I'll shop there . . . Hopefully we'll move back into the city limits in the next few years, and I think this type of development will help open up residential development other there that can still be within the city limits as well.
Ok, I'm not even going to google what "Dressbarn" is, because the reality is probably far less entertaining than the image I have in my head right now. Only in Oklahoma! [:D]
[Especially the remark about "absorbing the fact that we're living in a different city than we thought we were in." Yes, it has changed since the last council fiasco when Medlock and those buffoons were in place. That was a tip off.]
I find it especially ironic that you so confidently refer to me as either a buffoon, or one who served with buffoons in a forum about Tulsa Hills and it's positive impact on Tulsa and the West Side. Why? Because it wasn't Darla Hall or Rick Westcott or even Randi Miller who used their council position to help bring Tulsa Hills to the Westside. It was moi.
I had to spend over a year being called "anti-development" without being able to mention the work I was doing with Sooner Development because I had signed a non-disclose. It was also me who had to beat back "Mr. Pro-Growth" Bill Martinson who tried to kill the TIF and thus Tulsa Hills.
I'm sure all of you who supported the River Tax want to play historical revisionism to put salve on your wounds, but I would support the Branson Landing development using a TIF, just as I worked my tail off for Tulsa Hills. In fact, the "Vote Yes" lead spokesperson, Randi Miller, even gave me the credit as the "main incentive to make [Tulsa Hills] happen." Don't believe me? Play the linked mp3 file.
Miller Thanks Medlock (//%22http://www.medlockmarketing.com/Thank%20You%20For%20Tulsa%20Hills.mp3%22)
Some are going to have to come to grips with the idea that Tulsa's development future is best served by trying to "grind out a bunch of singles, rather than always swinging for the fences" and thus risking an embarrassing strike out, like last Tuesday's.
Good job Chris on helping get the Tulsa Hills project here. I would love it if we could get that Tulsa Landing or something like it or better on the west bank, and a tiff is fine with me on that project.
I also agree that not every project has to be a huge mega deal.
The Channels people would say that we need a big project, a big boulder thrown into the pond, to create a big ripple effect. I remember someone saying quite wisely that a lot of small rocks and pebbles, when coordinated, can have the same effect.
Whether a big boulder or lots of small rocks, both can create a lot of waves. But lets start throwing something lol. If your gonna do the small rock approach ya have to keep at it, its not a one off thing, and have an over all vision and plan, and make sure each rock keeps to that vision.
I guess I never really understood just how HUGE this development is... (as in acres and square feet). I just looked at the layout and was blown away. It reminds me of the development in SW Oklahoma City along I-40, with a hotel being the only thing Tulsa Hills lacks in comparison.. This opens up a lot of possibility for the West Side...
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Originally posted by jiminy
Ok, I'm not even going to google what "Dressbarn" is, because the reality is probably far less entertaining than the image I have in my head right now. Only in Oklahoma! [:D]
Actually, the first Dress Barn I'd ever seen was in Manhattan, smack dab in the middle of New York City...so it's not an 'only in Oklahoma' thing [:D]
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Good job Chris on helping get the Tulsa Hills project here. I would love it if we could get that Tulsa Landing or something like it or better on the west bank, and a tiff is fine with me on that project.
I also agree that not every project has to be a huge mega deal.
The Channels people would say that we need a big project, a big boulder thrown into the pond, to create a big ripple effect. I remember someone saying quite wisely that a lot of small rocks and pebbles, when coordinated, can have the same effect.
Whether a big boulder or lots of small rocks, both can create a lot of waves. But lets start throwing something lol. If your gonna do the small rock approach ya have to keep at it, its not a one off thing, and have an over all vision and plan, and make sure each rock keeps to that vision.
Oh, stop with the kissing up and deference. Listen to this guy on idiot radio then come back and try to compliment him.
So you were the driving force on the Hills Mr. M., that's great. But what happened afterwards? You suddenly joined a group of people who are an embarassment to our city and reflect badly on your past accomplishments. And whether you were a buffoon or not, the vision left from that council time period, is of buffoonish behavior on all sides.
And who's playing revisionism here? No one said you weren't involved in that development. Just referenced the chimp show that no one was enjoying during that council run. This city has changed in the last 20-25 years. Those of us who weren't in middle school back then are astounded that such a meager plan became so controversial and divided our cities against each other and ourselves. You are part of that change whether you like it or not.
Tuesday wasn't an attempt at a home run, it was an attempt to sober up the team and take the field for heavens sake.
What Waterboy said...x2.
My god, Medlock. Believe it or not, not everything is about you. I read this entire thread (OK..I scanned it) and never once thought of you (even when waterboy mentioned you by name. In one ear and out the other... you should try it sometime.)
Let's get this straight, you were the councilor for the district this development is in. You were for it. You helped with the TIF. YOU WERE DOING YOUR JOB. What? Do you want a medal?
Let's pose a different question. Let's say you are...Maria Barnes. Would you work behind the scenes to make sure this Wal-Mart downtown happened? Would you be for that? Or would you put pressure on the developer to do it right, or else he isn't getting the TIF he wants...Now THAT is a sticky situation. A half section of greenfield development in West Tulsa is...not so much.
Originally posted by Chris Medlock.
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Ifind it especially ironic that you so confidently refer to me as either a buffoon, or one who served with buffoons in a forum about Tulsa Hills and it's positive impact on Tulsa and the West Side. Why? Because it wasn't Darla Hall or Rick Westcott or even Randi Miller who used their council position to help bring Tulsa Hills to the Westside. It was moi.
Hey Chris... Tell us the story about how you warned LaFortune that the Democrats were going to come at him with Kathy Taylor....
Is it really true he did not believe you...? and wouldn't even listen...?
Was this before or after you wanted to take his job..?
That was such an interesting story it bears repeating.
Play it again Chris...
By the way did you ever make up the (I) portion of your Degree..?
Some are going to have to come to grips with the idea that Tulsa's development future is best served by trying to "grind out a bunch of singles, rather than always swinging for the fences" and thus risking an embarrassing strike out, like last Tuesday's.
I could not agree more......
Don't want to interrupt and be on topic or anything.. but:
(http://www.tulsaworld.com/articleimages/2007/071013_A1_hThes06243_Hills13a.jpg)
TulsaWorld has an accompanying story with no new information:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=071013_1_A1_hThes06243
The Oklahoma Journal Record has more detail than what was in the Tulsa World. Tulsa Hills phase one is all leased except for 20,000 square feet. It will be 32% larger than originally planned at 725,000 square feet. Phase two has grown to 800,000 square feet and will include a hotel. The project will be a massive 1.5 million square feet, larger than Woodland Hills when complete. Total cost has risen to about $150 million. The first stores will open in March. The project is projected to have about $160 million per year. They have not signed a theater chain or grocery store yet.
http://www.journalrecord.com/article.cfm?recid=82663
REASORS please. I'm tired of driving to 21st & Yale from Sand Springs to shop for groceries.
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REASORS please. I'm tired of driving to 21st & Yale from Sand Springs to shop for groceries.
I'll give you an "amen" on that! Reasors are you listening? We are in DESPERATE need of a good grocery store!
Interesting an article I read stated that there will not be a grocery store with this development because there are not enough people within a certain distance to support one?
Before I moved from Sand Springs I contacted Reasor's several times about putting a store in Sand Springs. I always received a response, and not a form letter, which impressed me. Long story short they said that Sand Springs would not support another grocery store and is in fact oversaturated with grocery stores. I always pointed out that Warehouse Market shouldn't count because it is so nasty and I knew a lot of people that wouldn't step foot in there for any reason.
I also pointed out that a majority of the people I spoke with did not like shopping for groceries and Wal-Mart either and many of them, myself included, would drive to their store at 21st & Yale to shop.
Since moving to Bixby I have been asking for them to look into placing a store on the South Side of the River in Bixby. Same old story, "Bixby won't support another grocery store." I call BS on that...but what are you gonna do?
I actually ran into Jeff Reasor and some other high muckity mucks when they opened the store on 15th & Lewis. Being the devil may care person I am I walked up, introduced myself and pleaded the case for both Bixby and Sand Springs.
Their response was that they were about to do another survey in the Bixby/Glenpool area, but that there were no plans to even look at the Sand Springs market.
I'm guessing that Bixby is doomed since a Super Target is about to be built here. Hopefully it will be better than Wal-Mart, but from what I've seen of the one on 71st they are quite a bit higher on most things and have less variety that Wal-Mart.
Sigh....
I live in Jenks and would stop at a Tulsa Hill's grocery store on the way home from work.. I'm not a big fan of Reasors. Was hoping Target would be "super".
I don't get it. Where do they think we go for groceries? How many people do they need to justify a grocery store?
Westsiders are driving all over the place -- such as to the Neighborhood Market at 45th & Peoria or random Reasor's or Food Pyramids around town close to workplaces, etc. I don't go the Warehouse Market unless I need like a can of something to finish a recipe. Or toilet paper. That's about it.
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I don't get it. Where do they think we go for groceries? How many people do they need to justify a grocery store?
I have asked the same thing myself doezens of times over the years.
I was talking to a neighbor just last night and she said the same thing. Warehouse Market is last resort and don't even think of getting produce there. Heaven forbid you should need Parsley. NEVER do they have parsley. How can I make tabouli without parsley?? Sorry, off on an tangent....
If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages?
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If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages?
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Good one RM!!!!!
I'm glad to see that this area of Tulsa is finally getting what is needed and has been needed since they built th 71st bridge across the river. I never understood why this area not served better. And as for Warehouse Market, the only thing I found them useful for in years gone by was to cash pay checks and to buy charcoal from. I used to live near the union hall at Pine and Memorial and I would drive to the Albertsons on 21st and Memorial to shop.
This will be good for the area. A grocery store would be wise to consider building in the area.
Awww, I'm bummed Target won't be Super. I will say that Target has some fun baking stuff and lots of ethnic ingredients, and I have found the produce and meat superior to SuperWalmart...oops, I really need to give Food Pyramid a try...[:I]
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Originally posted by TulsaMINI
I was talking to a neighbor just last night and she said the same thing. Warehouse Market is last resort and don't even think of getting produce there. Heaven forbid you should need Parsley. NEVER do they have parsley. How can I make tabouli without parsley?? Sorry, off on an tangent....
I refuse to step foot into a Warehouse Market ever again. I was needing a can of hot dog chili while I was grilling dogs and burgers last summer, 2006, so I ran down to the Warehouse Market in Sand Springs to grab it. Figured it would be faster than Wal-Mart.
I ended up at Wal-Mart anyway after picking up a can of hot dog chili that had rodent dropping on the top of it.
Never again.
The Super Walmart on 81st & Lewis is not what I would call an alternative to a Super Target.
I don't feel comfortable going there after dark....I drive to Bixby's Super Walmart just to avoid going to the one on 81st & Lewis.
Whoever's decision it was to not make the Tulsa Hills Target a Super Target made a HUGE error in judgment. So much for convience... I might as well make the longer drive to the Super Target on 71st & 169 where I don't have to get the kids out of the car twice to do clothes shopping and grocery shopping.
Just out of curiosity, how many people here remember when the first Target opened next to Sears at 21st & Yale. It was a Super Target.
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Originally posted by Rush
The Super Walmart on 81st & Lewis is not what I would call an alternative to a Super Target.
I don't feel comfortable going there after dark....I drive to Bixby's Super Walmart just to avoid going to the one on 81st & Lewis.
Whoever's decision it was to not make the Tulsa Hills Target a Super Target made a HUGE error in judgment. So much for convience... I might as well make the longer drive to the Super Target on 71st & 169 where I don't have to get the kids out of the car twice to do clothes shopping and grocery shopping.
Target has multiple levels. It's not just "super or regular" they have greatlands in the middle as well as some other versions. The one in Owasso has a decent grocery section but is not a super Target.
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REASORS please. I'm tired of driving to 21st & Yale from Sand Springs to shop for groceries.
I'll give you an "amen" on that! Reasors are you listening? We are in DESPERATE need of a good grocery store!
Reasors has a store in Jenks that is roughly 3 miles from Tulsa Hills.
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Originally posted by TulsaMINI
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Originally posted by tulsa_fan
REASORS please. I'm tired of driving to 21st & Yale from Sand Springs to shop for groceries.
I'll give you an "amen" on that! Reasors are you listening? We are in DESPERATE need of a good grocery store!
Reasors has a store in Jenks that is roughly 3 miles from Tulsa Hills.
The Reasors in Jenks is not what I think of as a typical Reasors. We live in Jenks but cross the river to grocery shop. It is dirty and run down. We figure it is because it is the only grocery store around. Hopefully some competition will come in (at Tulsa Hills or the Walmart at 121st and 75) and they will clean it up.
So if the Reasor's in Jenks is crap and the one at 71st & Sheridan is crap, are only the ones on yale worth going to?
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So if the Reasor's in Jenks is crap and the one at 71st & Sheridan is crap, are only the ones on yale worth going to?
The new one in Owasso is very nice as is the one on 15th that used to be an Albertson's.
I was at the new Chipotle Friday night and I heard the manager talking with a patron about where else they are going to be putting more Chipotle's. I heard him say one at Tulsa Hills and Owasso. I believe there might have been one other place, but I couldn't totally hear.
I just hope that the rest of them that they build are bigger than the one on 71st. I have been to many Chipotle's across the country for the past 5+ years and that is the smallest one I have ever been to. I will definitely take advantage of ordering online and walking in and picking up. I thought about being a prick and ordering from my blackberry while we waited in line. My wife thought that was a bad idea because we would piss everyone off. My thought is, who cares if I take advantage of the 21st century technology.
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I thought about being a prick and ordering from my blackberry while we waited in line.
LOL!
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Originally posted by safetyguy
I was at the new Chipotle Friday night and I heard the manager talking with a patron about where else they are going to be putting more Chipotle's. I heard him say one at Tulsa Hills and Owasso. I believe there might have been one other place, but I couldn't totally hear.
I just hope that the rest of them that they build are bigger than the one on 71st. I have been to many Chipotle's across the country for the past 5+ years and that is the smallest one I have ever been to. I will definitely take advantage of ordering online and walking in and picking up. I thought about being a prick and ordering from my blackberry while we waited in line. My wife thought that was a bad idea because we would piss everyone off. My thought is, who cares if I take advantage of the 21st century technology.
I agree, the rest I have been to are larger and generally have a larger patio. If you look at the drawings of Tulsa Hills, there is an unnamed store with a small outside patio and no drive through that matches the generally chipotle style.
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The Reasors in Jenks is not what I think of as a typical Reasors. We live in Jenks but cross the river to grocery shop. It is dirty and run down. We figure it is because it is the only grocery store around. Hopefully some competition will come in (at Tulsa Hills or the Walmart at 121st and 75) and they will clean it up.
Sorry you feel that way, but I would have to wholeheartedly disagree. The Reasor's in Jenks may be small and crowded, but it is a very nice grocery store. I have no idea why you would say it is dirty and run down. What do you think needs to be cleaned up??? I shop there 2 times a week and wouldn't go anywhere else.
The next closest places to shop are the Wal-Mart Neighborhood market at 91st and Delaware (also small and crowded; I assume that is the one you're talking about) and the Wal-Mart Supercenter at 81st and Lewis (this one is "dirty" if you ask me).
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Originally posted by tulsacubfan
The Reasors in Jenks is not what I think of as a typical Reasors. We live in Jenks but cross the river to grocery shop. It is dirty and run down. We figure it is because it is the only grocery store around. Hopefully some competition will come in (at Tulsa Hills or the Walmart at 121st and 75) and they will clean it up.
Sorry you feel that way, but I would have to wholeheartedly disagree. The Reasor's in Jenks may be small and crowded, but it is a very nice grocery store. I have no idea why you would say it is dirty and run down. What do you think needs to be cleaned up??? I shop there 2 times a week and wouldn't go anywhere else.
The next closest places to shop are the Wal-Mart Neighborhood market at 91st and Delaware (also small and crowded; I assume that is the one you're talking about) and the Wal-Mart Supercenter at 81st and Lewis (this one is "dirty" if you ask me).
yeah the walmart at 81st and lewis has gone way downhill over the past few years. Very dirty and not the place I would want to do my grocery shopping. Since I am building a house at 111th and hwy 75, I will definitely take advantage of the new "glenpool" walmart at 121st and hwy 75.
Driving by Tulsa Hills, they have installed the Lowes, Target and Belks sign at their respective entrances off of 71st ST.
We used to shop at the Wally World at 81st and Lewis when we lived a lot closer to it. We actually drive out of our way now to the Supercenter in Bixby.
We live off of 121st/St Rd 117 so we are looking forward to being less than 2 miles from the new Wally World in Glenpool. I am a little concerned how the traffic flow will be in that area once the development really takes off.
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We used to shop at the Wally World at 81st and Lewis when we lived a lot closer to it. We actually drive out of our way now to the Supercenter in Bixby.
We live off of 121st/St Rd 117 so we are looking forward to being less than 2 miles from the new Wally World in Glenpool. I am a little concerned how the traffic flow will be in that area once the development really takes off.
There are several backroads for us to get there once we close on our house (jan 30th). It's at 111th and hwy 75 in Southwoods. Hopefully the traffic flow will be good especially since it intersects with 2 highways.
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Tulsa Hills stores get ready
by: ROD WALTON World Staff Writer
2/15/2008 12:00 AM
Outside Tulsa Hills, bricklayers and other construction crews are putting the finishing touches on the first phase of the city's largest retail development in about 30 years.
Inside, store managers are living purely in the moment, running around making sure fixtures are set, new hires are given tasks and merchandise is arriving. They don't have much time.
"Everybody who drives by thinks we're open," Target store team leader Shawn Austin said Thursday. "I think they're just anxious for us to get open."
Shoppers don't have long to wait. The first wave of Tulsa Hills tenants will open in the second week of March, with scores of other stores to follow soon in the estimated $105 million shopping center.
Tulsa Hills will be the city's biggest retail development since Woodland Hills Mall opened in the 1970s. The complex eventually will offer more than 1.5 million square feet of retail space.
Target and Belk will be among the first stores to open. Target will open March 9, while Belk officially welcomes its first customers for a charity event March 10.
Lowe's will open later in the spring. The 148,000-square-foot store and garden center will create about 175 jobs.
Belk begins receiving its merchandise Monday.
"There's nothing like opening a new store in our business," Belk regional store manager Jaime Valdez said. "You get to start the foundation and set the culture."
One of a manager's biggest challenges during a start, aside from dodging construction trucks, is making sure you have enough people. Target's Austin is still in the midst of filling out his staff of about 180 people.
"It's really hard," he said.
Anyone eager to work in retail will see "now hiring" signs if they make the trip to the southeast corner of U.S. 75 and 71st Street.
The other challenge for retailers is making a personal connection to the community.
Belk, which will employ about 100 people, wants to cover that ground fast. Its Charity Day allows various nonprofits to sell store entry tickets for $5 each and keep the proceeds.
"We've had a very strong early response," Valdez noted.
Those who buy the tickets can find savings of 15 percent to 20 percent during the March 10 event. Belk's regular store opening is March 12.
Best Buy, PetSmart and Marshalls should open in May.
"It's coming around pretty quick," said Leland Clark, who works for project developer Sooner Investments of Oklahoma City.
"You always have construction deadlines," he added. "And you have issues with things you don't foresee."
Other Tulsa Hills businesses will include Chili's restaurant, Bank of Oklahoma, Yankee Candle, Starbucks, McDonald's and Bed, Bath and Beyond, among many others. J.C. Penney is scheduled to open later this year.
Developers hope to add other retail and restaurant tenants in 2009.
Charlotte, N.C.-based Collett and Associates will manage the facility, Clark said.
Sherwood Construction is the primary contractor.
About $16.5 million of the cost will be funded through a tax increment district, or TIF, financing plan, in which some property tax revenue is set aside to pay for infrastructure.
Tulsa Hills
Where: South of 71st Street on the east side of U.S. 75.
Size: About 1.5 million square feet of retail space. This year, 725,000 square feet will be developed, followed by an estimated 800,000 square feet opening next year.
Cost: Estimated investment of $105 million by the end of 2009.
Tenants: Target, Belk, Lowe's, Best Buy, Lane Bryant, Famous Footwear, Marshalls, Rack Room Shoes, Payless Shoes, Subway, McDonald's, US Cellular, Mattress King, Golden Touch and J.C. Penney, among many others.
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Originally posted by safetyguy
I was at the new Chipotle Friday night and I heard the manager talking with a patron about where else they are going to be putting more Chipotle's. I heard him say one at Tulsa Hills and Owasso. I believe there might have been one other place, but I couldn't totally hear.
I just hope that the rest of them that they build are bigger than the one on 71st. I have been to many Chipotle's across the country for the past 5+ years and that is the smallest one I have ever been to. I will definitely take advantage of ordering online and walking in and picking up. I thought about being a prick and ordering from my blackberry while we waited in line. My wife thought that was a bad idea because we would piss everyone off. My thought is, who cares if I take advantage of the 21st century technology.
actually that is about the normal size for Chipotles. Only in towns where they have 1 or 2 for the entire city are they big. They know that after the new wears off that will be an appropriate size. They are going to scatter a bunch around town that are that size. I suspect the Owasso one will go in at Smith Farms shopping center. They will put one over at 9200 Delaware (or maybe not since Tin Star is so close). If Bumgarner foists his ****ty development on us there will probably be one at 101st/mem. I suspect there will be one in BA somewhere too.
Oh and the Reasor's at 71st/Sheridan is not ****ty. They have like a million worker bees in there who are always tidying up the place. But why anyone would want to pay out the donkey for Reasor's groceries is beyond me. If you are just doing it to spite walmart you are stupid. But that's what they say about fools and their money....they are soon parted at Reasors.
There's a lot to be said for a pleasant, efficient shopping experience. That's why Wal-Mart created their Neighborhood Market concept.
And yeah - Chipotles I've been in are like any other fast food joint. They come in a variety of sizes but they're never huge. Once there are several scattered about town the demand will spread and things will chill.
This development is very exciting! How long till the TIF expires and the sales tax goes into the general revenue fund?
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Originally posted by Floyd
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by safetyguy
I was at the new Chipotle Friday night and I heard the manager talking with a patron about where else they are going to be putting more Chipotle's. I heard him say one at Tulsa Hills and Owasso. I believe there might have been one other place, but I couldn't totally hear.
I just hope that the rest of them that they build are bigger than the one on 71st. I have been to many Chipotle's across the country for the past 5+ years and that is the smallest one I have ever been to. I will definitely take advantage of ordering online and walking in and picking up. I thought about being a prick and ordering from my blackberry while we waited in line. My wife thought that was a bad idea because we would piss everyone off. My thought is, who cares if I take advantage of the 21st century technology.
actually that is about the normal size for Chipotles. Only in towns where they have 1 or 2 for the entire city are they big. They know that after the new wears off that will be an appropriate size. They are going to scatter a bunch around town that are that size. I suspect the Owasso one will go in at Smith Farms shopping center. They will put one over at 9200 Delaware (or maybe not since Tin Star is so close). If Bumgarner foists his ****ty development on us there will probably be one at 101st/mem. I suspect there will be one in BA somewhere too.
Oh and the Reasor's at 71st/Sheridan is not ****ty. They have like a million worker bees in there who are always tidying up the place. But why anyone would want to pay out the donkey for Reasor's groceries is beyond me. If you are just doing it to spite walmart you are stupid. But that's what they say about fools and their money....they are soon parted at Reasors.
There's a lot to be said for a pleasant, efficient shopping experience. That's why Wal-Mart created their Neighborhood Market concept.
And yeah - Chipotles I've been in are like any other fast food joint. They come in a variety of sizes but they're never huge. Once there are several scattered about town the demand will spread and things will chill.
This development is very exciting! How long till the TIF expires and the sales tax goes into the general revenue fund?
I think it was a property tax TIFF, not a sales tax, that's why they made an upfront payment to Jenks Schools
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Originally posted by swake
I think it was a property tax TIFF, not a sales tax, that's why they made an upfront payment to Jenks Schools
Are you still talking about Tulsa Hills....or are you talking about that Jenks venture?
TH is a property AND sales tax TIF.
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Originally posted by TulsaSooner
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Originally posted by swake
I think it was a property tax TIFF, not a sales tax, that's why they made an upfront payment to Jenks Schools
Are you still talking about Tulsa Hills....or are you talking about that Jenks venture?
TH is a property AND sales tax TIF.
I'm Still talking about Tulsa Hills, The River District TIF is both a property and sales tax TIF, and Jenks Schools felt they could get a payment out of The River District based on their success getting one out of Tulsa Hills.
I was not sure if Tulsa Hills was a sales tax TIF, but I knew it was on property tax. Do you know what percentage of sales tax goes to the TIF?
My understanding is the TIF gets all of the sales and property tax. There is no "increment" in this TIF, the base was 0 to begin with. I think there may be some stipulation in there that if the revenues paid to the TIF are above and beyond the debt service, then the city may be able to recoup that, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Originally posted by TulsaSooner
My understanding is the TIF gets all of the sales and property tax. There is no "increment" in this TIF, the base was 0 to begin with. I think there may be some stipulation in there that if the revenues paid to the TIF are above and beyond the debt service, then the city may be able to recoup that, but I'm not 100% sure.
I looked around and it is a sales and property tax TIF, but it is not all revenue. What I found said the TIFF would be paid by the first $1.6 million in tax revenue, but it did not break it out by what portion was going to be property tax and what portion would be sales tax.
The River District is set where all property taxes and one cent of sale tax pays into the TIF.
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Originally posted by inteller
But why anyone would want to pay out the donkey for Reasor's groceries is beyond me. If you are just doing it to spite walmart you are stupid. But that's what they say about fools and their money....they are soon parted at Reasors.
Are you kidding? Reasors always has great deals and specials. Their prices are overall no worse/no better than WalMart or anywhere else. I love my Reasors and I don't think you know what you are talking about.
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Originally posted by jackbristow
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Originally posted by inteller
But why anyone would want to pay out the donkey for Reasor's groceries is beyond me. If you are just doing it to spite walmart you are stupid. But that's what they say about fools and their money....they are soon parted at Reasors.
Are you kidding? Reasors always has great deals and specials. Their prices are overall no worse/no better than WalMart or anywhere else. I love my Reasors and I don't think you know what you are talking about.
"overall" are not better or worse? every time the news does a segment on basic components of thanksgiving dinner they are ALWAYS more expensive.
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Tulsa Hills stores get ready
by: ROD WALTON World Staff Writer
2/15/2008 12:00 AM
Outside Tulsa Hills, bricklayers and other construction crews are putting the finishing touches on the first phase of the city's largest retail development in about 30 years.
Inside, store managers are living purely in the moment, running around making sure fixtures are set, new hires are given tasks and merchandise is arriving. They don't have much time.
"Everybody who drives by thinks we're open," Target store team leader Shawn Austin said Thursday. "I think they're just anxious for us to get open."
Shoppers don't have long to wait. The first wave of Tulsa Hills tenants will open in the second week of March, with scores of other stores to follow soon in the estimated $105 million shopping center.
Tulsa Hills will be the city's biggest retail development since Woodland Hills Mall opened in the 1970s. The complex eventually will offer more than 1.5 million square feet of retail space.
Target and Belk will be among the first stores to open. Target will open March 9, while Belk officially welcomes its first customers for a charity event March 10.
Lowe's will open later in the spring. The 148,000-square-foot store and garden center will create about 175 jobs.
Belk begins receiving its merchandise Monday.
"There's nothing like opening a new store in our business," Belk regional store manager Jaime Valdez said. "You get to start the foundation and set the culture."
One of a manager's biggest challenges during a start, aside from dodging construction trucks, is making sure you have enough people. Target's Austin is still in the midst of filling out his staff of about 180 people.
"It's really hard," he said.
Anyone eager to work in retail will see "now hiring" signs if they make the trip to the southeast corner of U.S. 75 and 71st Street.
The other challenge for retailers is making a personal connection to the community.
Belk, which will employ about 100 people, wants to cover that ground fast. Its Charity Day allows various nonprofits to sell store entry tickets for $5 each and keep the proceeds.
"We've had a very strong early response," Valdez noted.
Those who buy the tickets can find savings of 15 percent to 20 percent during the March 10 event. Belk's regular store opening is March 12.
Best Buy, PetSmart and Marshalls should open in May.
"It's coming around pretty quick," said Leland Clark, who works for project developer Sooner Investments of Oklahoma City.
"You always have construction deadlines," he added. "And you have issues with things you don't foresee."
Other Tulsa Hills businesses will include Chili's restaurant, Bank of Oklahoma, Yankee Candle, Starbucks, McDonald's and Bed, Bath and Beyond, among many others. J.C. Penney is scheduled to open later this year.
Developers hope to add other retail and restaurant tenants in 2009.
Charlotte, N.C.-based Collett and Associates will manage the facility, Clark said.
Sherwood Construction is the primary contractor.
About $16.5 million of the cost will be funded through a tax increment district, or TIF, financing plan, in which some property tax revenue is set aside to pay for infrastructure.
Tulsa Hills
Where: South of 71st Street on the east side of U.S. 75.
Size: About 1.5 million square feet of retail space. This year, 725,000 square feet will be developed, followed by an estimated 800,000 square feet opening next year.
Cost: Estimated investment of $105 million by the end of 2009.
Tenants: Target, Belk, Lowe's, Best Buy, Lane Bryant, Famous Footwear, Marshalls, Rack Room Shoes, Payless Shoes, Subway, McDonald's, US Cellular, Mattress King, Golden Touch and J.C. Penney, among many others.
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A buddy of mine who works for an equipment rental company said also there is going to be an el tequila going in as well. He stated they rented out some equipment to them a few weeks back. Target I believe is scheduled to open March 9th. Lowe's around the sametime I believe.
I have to agree with inteller on this one. Reasor's does have good specials and selection, but they are consistently higher on many of the things I buy.
I don't shop at Wal-Mart, but buy groceries at Reasors, Warehouse Market, Food Pyramid, and Wild Oats. I shop for mostly sales items and then just buy a few staples at the same time. I like them all for different reasons and usually choose based on other combined other trips.
I shopped at the 15th reasors yesterday and was quite perplexed by the fact the crowds were far larger than when it was albertsons yet the prices were noticeably higher.
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Originally posted by inteller
"overall" are not better or worse? every time the news does a segment on basic components of thanksgiving dinner they are ALWAYS more expensive.
Wal-Mart is a lover of the loss leader, or in states that don't allow them to sell at a loss, the "at cost" leader, where "cost" is as little as they can possibly construe it to be. They make it up on everything else that is the same price or more expensive than competitors.
But yes, if you want a turkey around Thanksgiving, whichever antibiotic and pesticide laden bird that can barely walk they have on special is cheaper than the competitors.
I'm pretty unhappy with Food Pyramid, though. They raised prices above Albertson's on most everything I buy that's not raw produce. Of course, many if not most of those items are constantly "marked down" to the former Albertson's price, so they're really just jacking up the price to make it look like they are having a sale.
It's sad when a grocery store sells Coca-Cola for more money than QT.
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Originally posted by jackbristow
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Originally posted by TulsaMINI
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Originally posted by tulsa_fan
REASORS please. I'm tired of driving to 21st & Yale from Sand Springs to shop for groceries.
I'll give you an "amen" on that! Reasors are you listening? We are in DESPERATE need of a good grocery store!
Reasors has a store in Jenks that is roughly 3 miles from Tulsa Hills.
The Reasors in Jenks is not what I think of as a typical Reasors. We live in Jenks but cross the river to grocery shop. It is dirty and run down. We figure it is because it is the only grocery store around. Hopefully some competition will come in (at Tulsa Hills or the Walmart at 121st and 75) and they will clean it up.
I wonder if they have considered splitting the difference, shutting down the current Jenks location, and building two new ones (one more towards glenpool, one in Tulsa Hills) - Would seem to be a good strategy to me. Jenks could surely use a good Christian supplies store or whatever have you that like to inhabit old grocery stores.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I shopped at the 15th reasors yesterday and was quite perplexed by the fact the crowds were far larger than when it was albertsons yet the prices were noticeably higher.
Albertsons didnt have catchy radio and TV marketing. That probably does wonders for business, I can hear their slogan playing in my head as I type this.
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I shopped at the 15th reasors yesterday and was quite perplexed by the fact the crowds were far larger than when it was albertsons yet the prices were noticeably higher.
Albertsons didnt have catchy radio and TV marketing. That probably does wonders for business, I can hear their slogan playing in my head as I type this.
There is a huge difference between what was Albertson's and what is now Reasor's at 15th and Lewis. Albertson's was filthy and had a very limited selection of real food items. Reasor's has cleaned the place up, got rid of about 3 or 4 aisles of nonfood items and replaced them with groceries. They have cleaned up the meat counter. There is now more than one or two live cashiers working and some times there are 5 cashiers working not including the self checkouts. They have put depth to the selections on the shelves. I will not wander into who is the most expensive fistfight, but selection, cleanliness, adaptive management, all reasons I shop at Reasor's and not some of the CHEAPER stores in town. Good service makes me go back. Walmart may be cheaper but there is no service and you have to check yourself out if you want to get out of the store in any timely manner.
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
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Originally posted by tulsacubfan
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Originally posted by jackbristow
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Originally posted by TulsaMINI
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Originally posted by tulsa_fan
REASORS please. I'm tired of driving to 21st & Yale from Sand Springs to shop for groceries.
I'll give you an "amen" on that! Reasors are you listening? We are in DESPERATE need of a good grocery store!
Reasors has a store in Jenks that is roughly 3 miles from Tulsa Hills.
The Reasors in Jenks is not what I think of as a typical Reasors. We live in Jenks but cross the river to grocery shop. It is dirty and run down. We figure it is because it is the only grocery store around. Hopefully some competition will come in (at Tulsa Hills or the Walmart at 121st and 75) and they will clean it up.
I wonder if they have considered splitting the difference, shutting down the current Jenks location, and building two new ones (one more towards glenpool, one in Tulsa Hills) - Would seem to be a good strategy to me. Jenks could surely use a good Christian supplies store or whatever have you that like to inhabit old grocery stores.
Reasor's in Jenks isn't dirty, but it is dark becuase they store so much stuff in boxes above the isles, I think that gives the store the impression of being dirty.
This week they have been removing all of that stuff off of the tops of the shelves, I'm guessing trying to have a better appearance in the store with the so called "upscale" Glenpool Wal-Mart opening in the next month or two.
Reasor's actually has a very good selection of meats and produce. They are a bit higher in price on name brand goods so we actually split our shopping between Super Target, Reasor's and Wild Oats.
I was in the Brookside Food Pryamid this week and they are really improving that store. Starbucks is about to open and it's looking far cleaner and better organized than when it was Albertson's.
And don't get me started on Wal-Mart, I can't take the Supercenters, the employees are rude and the customers are more rude. The lines are intolerable and it's only cheaper if you by the flavorless crap Wal-mart brands. I was in the Wal-Mart grocery store at 96th and Delaware a couple of months ago and was trying to buy peaches and they were literally rotting on the display. The fruit was putrid and had the little flys all around them. I have not been back.
I hadnt been in a Wal-Mart for about 5 or 6 years but was forced to go into one, the supercenter by ORU, because a friend needed to get something there. I was actually quite suprised at how much things had changed in the grocery section. The whole set up looked different and nicer. There were all kinds of products and selections that I had never seen and had certainly not seen in the Wal-Marts years ago. I actually kind of wanted to look around and see what was there lol. I kept thinking, "wow, its amazing what these common people can buy now"[:P] The power of the masses I suppose. Who knew!?
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I shopped at the 15th reasors yesterday and was quite perplexed by the fact the crowds were far larger than when it was albertsons yet the prices were noticeably higher.
Albertsons didnt have catchy radio and TV marketing. That probably does wonders for business, I can hear their slogan playing in my head as I type this.
There is a huge difference between what was Albertson's and what is now Reasor's at 15th and Lewis. Albertson's was filthy and had a very limited selection of real food items. Reasor's has cleaned the place up, got rid of about 3 or 4 aisles of nonfood items and replaced them with groceries. They have cleaned up the meat counter. There is now more than one or two live cashiers working and some times there are 5 cashiers working not including the self checkouts. They have put depth to the selections on the shelves. I will not wander into who is the most expensive fistfight, but selection, cleanliness, adaptive management, all reasons I shop at Reasor's and not some of the CHEAPER stores in town. Good service makes me go back. Walmart may be cheaper but there is no service and you have to check yourself out if you want to get out of the store in any timely manner.
Yeah, and we are starting a $200,000+ remodeling/expansion project in march to better the dairy and frozen food areas. Currently we have dairy stuff spread throughout the store (Dumb albertson's design).
This thread reminds me of a song from Texas. "The Hills Of Texas" Change around the words and lyrics to make it "The Hills Of Tulsa shopping center"[}:)]
I am going to have to go with one of you people into Reasors. I've been there at least fifty times and everytime the store was dirty, selection mediocre, prices outrageous, lines long, and customer service lousy. That's not to mention my perishable food spoiling usually within 48hrs. (and yes I refrigerated)
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Originally posted by swake
And don't get me started on Wal-Mart, I can't take the Supercenters, the employees are rude and the customers are more rude. The lines are intolerable and it's only cheaper if you by the flavorless crap Wal-mart brands. I was in the Wal-Mart grocery store at 96th and Delaware a couple of months ago and was trying to buy peaches and they were literally rotting on the display. The fruit was putrid and had the little flys all around them. I have not been back.
Have you seen the customers at Walmart? They live off of a diet consisting entirely of Pepsi, Doritos, Twizzlers, and Jenos $1 frozen pizzas. They don't know anything of this "Produce" that you speak of. It is probably a case of the store having it there to have "selection", but its customer base having no interest in buying it - thus the inventory is never cleared out quick enough to have fresh product.
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
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Originally posted by swake
And don't get me started on Wal-Mart, I can't take the Supercenters, the employees are rude and the customers are more rude. The lines are intolerable and it's only cheaper if you by the flavorless crap Wal-mart brands. I was in the Wal-Mart grocery store at 96th and Delaware a couple of months ago and was trying to buy peaches and they were literally rotting on the display. The fruit was putrid and had the little flys all around them. I have not been back.
Have you seen the customers at Walmart? They live off of a diet consisting entirely of Pepsi, Doritos, Twizzlers, and Jenos $1 frozen pizzas. They don't know anything of this "Produce" that you speak of. It is probably a case of the store having it there to have "selection", but its customer base having no interest in buying it - thus the inventory is never cleared out quick enough to have fresh product.
I've gotten to where I now go to the Neighborhood Market Wal-Mart at 21st and Yale. It's clean and has a different feel to it than the other Neighborhood markets (maybe from being clean).
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
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Originally posted by swake
And don't get me started on Wal-Mart, I can't take the Supercenters, the employees are rude and the customers are more rude. The lines are intolerable and it's only cheaper if you by the flavorless crap Wal-mart brands. I was in the Wal-Mart grocery store at 96th and Delaware a couple of months ago and was trying to buy peaches and they were literally rotting on the display. The fruit was putrid and had the little flys all around them. I have not been back.
Have you seen the customers at Walmart? They live off of a diet consisting entirely of Pepsi, Doritos, Twizzlers, and Jenos $1 frozen pizzas. They don't know anything of this "Produce" that you speak of. It is probably a case of the store having it there to have "selection", but its customer base having no interest in buying it - thus the inventory is never cleared out quick enough to have fresh product.
oh give me a break you little elitest punks. Go to the Wal-Mart at 111th/Memorial. The clientele there is FAR from what you describe. You all are just talking up the streotypes that existed in rural wal-mart locations for quite some time. Customers are different in each location. The clientele at 68th/Mem are different from 111th and so on. If you are TRULY encountering those types of people well then congratulations, those are your neighbors. The fact that you live among a bunch of mouth breathers is of no surprise to me.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I am going to have to go with one of you people into Reasors. I've been there at least fifty times and everytime the store was dirty, selection mediocre, prices outrageous, lines long, and customer service lousy. That's not to mention my perishable food spoiling usually within 48hrs. (and yes I refrigerated)
I shop at the Reasors at 41st and Yale for my groceries. It seems fine to me. I have never had to wait in a line with more than 2 or 3 people in it. If it looks like several lines have 3 or more people then they open up other lines. I have often seen the manager rush to open a line and run it himself so that people wont have to wait.
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
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Originally posted by swake
And don't get me started on Wal-Mart, I can't take the Supercenters, the employees are rude and the customers are more rude. The lines are intolerable and it's only cheaper if you by the flavorless crap Wal-mart brands. I was in the Wal-Mart grocery store at 96th and Delaware a couple of months ago and was trying to buy peaches and they were literally rotting on the display. The fruit was putrid and had the little flys all around them. I have not been back.
Have you seen the customers at Walmart? They live off of a diet consisting entirely of Pepsi, Doritos, Twizzlers, and Jenos $1 frozen pizzas. They don't know anything of this "Produce" that you speak of. It is probably a case of the store having it there to have "selection", but its customer base having no interest in buying it - thus the inventory is never cleared out quick enough to have fresh product.
oh give me a break you little elitest punks. Go to the Wal-Mart at 111th/Memorial. The clientele there is FAR from what you describe. You all are just talking up the streotypes that existed in rural wal-mart locations for quite some time. Customers are different in each location. The clientele at 68th/Mem are different from 111th and so on. If you are TRULY encountering those types of people well then congratulations, those are your neighbors. The fact that you live among a bunch of mouth breathers is of no surprise to me.
And your part of town surrounded by car lots, Charlie's Chicken, Carl's Jr and fireworks stands is so far superior.
(and way, way too good for a Target)
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
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Originally posted by swake
And don't get me started on Wal-Mart, I can't take the Supercenters, the employees are rude and the customers are more rude. The lines are intolerable and it's only cheaper if you by the flavorless crap Wal-mart brands. I was in the Wal-Mart grocery store at 96th and Delaware a couple of months ago and was trying to buy peaches and they were literally rotting on the display. The fruit was putrid and had the little flys all around them. I have not been back.
Have you seen the customers at Walmart? They live off of a diet consisting entirely of Pepsi, Doritos, Twizzlers, and Jenos $1 frozen pizzas. They don't know anything of this "Produce" that you speak of. It is probably a case of the store having it there to have "selection", but its customer base having no interest in buying it - thus the inventory is never cleared out quick enough to have fresh product.
oh give me a break you little elitest punks. Go to the Wal-Mart at 111th/Memorial. The clientele there is FAR from what you describe. You all are just talking up the streotypes that existed in rural wal-mart locations for quite some time. Customers are different in each location. The clientele at 68th/Mem are different from 111th and so on. If you are TRULY encountering those types of people well then congratulations, those are your neighbors. The fact that you live among a bunch of mouth breathers is of no surprise to me.
Get off my lawn!
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Originally posted by inteller
The clientele at 68th/Mem are different from 111th and so on. If you are TRULY encountering those types of people well then congratulations, those are your neighbors. The fact that you live among a bunch of mouth breathers is of no surprise to me.
Hardly anyone who shops at 68th and memorial lives within 2 miles of it.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by inteller
The clientele at 68th/Mem are different from 111th and so on. If you are TRULY encountering those types of people well then congratulations, those are your neighbors. The fact that you live among a bunch of mouth breathers is of no surprise to me.
Hardly anyone who shops at 68th and memorial lives within 2 miles of it.
oh wow, I didn't know you worked in the demographics division of Wal-mart. please tell us some other tidbits about the store, since you are obviously have access to all the data.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I am going to have to go with one of you people into Reasors. I've been there at least fifty times and everytime the store was dirty, selection mediocre, prices outrageous, lines long, and customer service lousy. That's not to mention my perishable food spoiling usually within 48hrs. (and yes I refrigerated)
I will go with you so you can point out all the things you say are wrong with Reasor's. I will meet you at the one at 21st and Yale, 41st and Yale, or 15th and Lewis. You pick the day.
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Originally posted by joiei
I will go with you so you can point out all the things you say are wrong with Reasor's. I will meet you at the one at 21st and Yale, 41st and Yale, or 15th and Lewis. You pick the day.
Great idea. Say yes Sgrizzle.
Oh, and can you pick me up a couple of items while you are there?
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by inteller
The clientele at 68th/Mem are different from 111th and so on. If you are TRULY encountering those types of people well then congratulations, those are your neighbors. The fact that you live among a bunch of mouth breathers is of no surprise to me.
Hardly anyone who shops at 68th and memorial lives within 2 miles of it.
I lived at 77th and Mingo in Estancia (the one where the standoff was the other day) and would shop at that walmart on occasion. The clientele is night and day between 68th and Memorial and 111th and Memorial. The store at 111th seems cleaner IMO. I shop mainly at walmart to save some bucks because for the stuff I need they are much much cheaper then target or food pyramid. My fiancee is from California where Walmart isn't very popular and Target's are. I had her compare prices on the basic stuff that we buy (toothpaste, shampoo, meats, bread, vegetables) and Walmart was cheaper by almost 10 dollars. That money adds up. Not to mention the supertarget is a pain in the butt to get in and out of because of the congestion.
I give reasors Kudos for 1 being local..and 2 for actually have paper instead of the crap plastic...also for having nice people and actually employing more than 2 people to check out on a saturday morning..they had 10 lines open last time..took 5 mins to get out...also bought some of their fresh baked bread instead of the national brands..still warm and smelled fresh baked....mmmm bread....have not been to a walmart(well I had to buy a battery for my truck) but don't do my groc. shopping there and most likly wont...ill support the local store before the national chain..keep the money in Oklahoma.
I think it is funny how Walmart isn't local but was started by an Oklahoman and is headquartered 25 miles outside of Oklahoma.
We should just annex Northwest Arkansas. Yeehaw!
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
I think it is funny how Walmart isn't local but was started by an Oklahoman and is headquartered 25 miles outside of Oklahoma.
We should just annex Northwest Arkansas. Yeehaw!
I am sure Randy Miller can take care of that...shes on a roll with bells....
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
I think it is funny how Walmart isn't local but was started by an Oklahoman and is headquartered 25 miles outside of Oklahoma.
We should just annex Northwest Arkansas. Yeehaw!
Careful there. Northwest Arkansas just might annex us first.
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
I think it is funny how Walmart isn't local but was started by an Oklahoman and is headquartered 25 miles outside of Oklahoma.
We should just annex Northwest Arkansas. Yeehaw!
no, we already got rid of the illegals once, I dont want to annex them back in.
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
I think it is funny how Walmart isn't local but was started by an Oklahoman and is headquartered 25 miles outside of Oklahoma.
We should just annex Northwest Arkansas. Yeehaw!
Careful there. Northwest Arkansas just might annex us first.
Nah, we can kick their...
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
I think it is funny how Walmart isn't local but was started by an Oklahoman and is headquartered 25 miles outside of Oklahoma.
We should just annex Northwest Arkansas. Yeehaw!
But Walmart is not local. I do not see them investing in our community to make it a more liveable and desirable place like I see over in Rogers and Bentonville. In fact, they are building so much retail over there that people who used to come here to shop from there don't have to do that any more further decreasing our retail sales base. They even have a Williams-Sonoma store. All I see them doing here is opening more retail outlets so they can send our money over the state line to Arkansas. If you haven't been to Rogers in a couple of years, perhaps you should take a little drive Sunday after church.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
I think it is funny how Walmart isn't local but was started by an Oklahoman and is headquartered 25 miles outside of Oklahoma.
We should just annex Northwest Arkansas. Yeehaw!
Careful there. Northwest Arkansas just might annex us first.
Nah, we can kick their...
Arkansass?
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Originally posted by joiei
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Originally posted by YoungTulsan
I think it is funny how Walmart isn't local but was started by an Oklahoman and is headquartered 25 miles outside of Oklahoma.
We should just annex Northwest Arkansas. Yeehaw!
But Walmart is not local. I do not see them investing in our community to make it a more liveable and desirable place like I see over in Rogers and Bentonville.
Uh, Rogers and Bentonville are not by anybody's definition livable and desirable. Have you seen the traffic? It makes Tulsa look good. Of course, I hate sprawling McMansions going up on what used to be pleasant farmland.
The only place that might qualify as having quality development is a small area in Fayetteville around Dickson street. Even that is questionable due to the lack of a grocery store without crossing College Ave. Plenty of bars and restaurants, though!
Back when Ozark Natural Foods was in the area, you could find most anything you needed regularly within walking distance and without having to cross any major arterials. Razorback transit could take you to the hardware store or what have you to get whatever wasn't available nearby.
Target - Tulsa Hills is now open...
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Target - Tulsa Hills is now open...
Let's go buy stuff!
Belk tomorrow and Lowe's at the end of the month I believe.
I already went tonight. DSCOTT was there as well with a cartload of ho-hos, a plasmascreen, and a Blu-ray copy of "Gigli."
The guy who sits next to me at work and his wife were there too. So I knew 3 people in a store where employees outnumbered customers.
(DSCOTT's purchases may have been fictionalized slightly)
It is great to hear that Tulsa Hills is finally OPEN! I am hoping that the sales tax receipts in Tulsa rise from this. Having Belk in this part of town should help. If you want to go to Belk now, you have to drive all the way to Owasso. That will all change very soon.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I already went tonight. DSCOTT was there as well with a cartload of ho-hos, a plasmascreen, and a Blu-ray copy of "Gigli."
The guy who sits next to me at work and his wife were there too. So I knew 3 people in a store where employees outnumbered customers.
(DSCOTT's purchases may have been fictionalized slightly)
Yeah, "slightly" is an understatement... [:P]
It was funny that I saw you there--I don't live anywhere near the area and didn't expect to see TNers at the brand new store.
P.S., sgrizzle's purchases included a Hello Kitty doormat, some bath salts and a Barbie McMansion (how
could you?!)
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Originally posted by DScott28604
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I already went tonight. DSCOTT was there as well with a cartload of ho-hos, a plasmascreen, and a Blu-ray copy of "Gigli."
The guy who sits next to me at work and his wife were there too. So I knew 3 people in a store where employees outnumbered customers.
(DSCOTT's purchases may have been fictionalized slightly)
Yeah, "slightly" is an understatement... [:P]
It was funny that I saw you there--I don't live anywhere near the area and didn't expect to see TNers at the brand new store.
P.S., sgrizzle's purchases included a Hello Kitty doormat, some bath salts and a Barbie McMansion (how could you?!)
It's about 7 miles from me, but I'm a bit of a consumer whore...
The ,ansion said it architecturally matched with the rest of barbieville and had appropriate setbacks, I didn't know, I swear..
Probably has already bought his daughter a large, gas guzzling, Barbiemobile to park in front of that Mc Mansion too. [8D] Shaaaaame, the examples and priorities some people instill in their childrens minds. Shaaaame. [:P]
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Originally posted by Composer
It is great to hear that Tulsa Hills is finally OPEN! I am hoping that the sales tax receipts in Tulsa rise from this. Having Belk in this part of town should help. If you want to go to Belk now, you have to drive all the way to Owasso. That will all change very soon.
I went to Belk in Owasso once and hated it.
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Originally posted by Composer
It is great to hear that Tulsa Hills is finally OPEN! I am hoping that the sales tax receipts in Tulsa rise from this. Having Belk in this part of town should help. If you want to go to Belk now, you have to drive all the way to Owasso. That will all change very soon.
ah yes belk, I know when I think of a place to shop, the first place I think is belk...[8)]
give me a break. Belk ranks up there with Stage, Goody's, and other C market retail trash.
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Probably has already bought his daughter a large, gas guzzling, Barbiemobile to park in front of that Mc Mansion too. [8D] Shaaaaame, the examples and priorities some people instill in their childrens minds. Shaaaame. [:P]
yeah, probably the same guy who pays hack artists to paint their daughter's bedrooms with stupid dolphins and other bull**** they never wanted on their walls.
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by Composer
It is great to hear that Tulsa Hills is finally OPEN! I am hoping that the sales tax receipts in Tulsa rise from this. Having Belk in this part of town should help. If you want to go to Belk now, you have to drive all the way to Owasso. That will all change very soon.
ah yes belk, I know when I think of a place to shop, the first place I think is belk...[8)]
give me a break. Belk ranks up there with Stage, Goody's, and other C market retail trash.
inteller, your just jealous because it is not a Walmart.
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Originally posted by joiei
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by Composer
It is great to hear that Tulsa Hills is finally OPEN! I am hoping that the sales tax receipts in Tulsa rise from this. Having Belk in this part of town should help. If you want to go to Belk now, you have to drive all the way to Owasso. That will all change very soon.
ah yes belk, I know when I think of a place to shop, the first place I think is belk...[8)]
give me a break. Belk ranks up there with Stage, Goody's, and other C market retail trash.
inteller, your just jealous because it is not a Walmart.
oh yes, can you tell, I'm just green with envy.[}:)]
Belk = Pottery Barn for poor people.
Now understand how there's excitment over the BOK Arena around here ,when people get this excited because they have a new Target [:X]
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Now understand how there's excitment over the BOK Arena around here ,when people get this excited because they have a new Target [:X]
good potato chips.
the black pepper & sea salt ones, specifically.
I do not think the excitement is because of Target. I think it comes because Tulsa Hills is an opportunity for Tulsa to capture back some of the sales tax from its citizens without seeing them travel to the suburbs for their goods. Tulsa needs to get to $20 Million/month in revenue from sales tax. This city relies on it too much for it to be any lower. Now, we are seeing monthly receipts around $17 million.
We went to Target this morning for the supposed "Grand Opening". We got there around 9 and no big festivities for the "Grand Opening". Not that we were going for that, I just thought that they would have done more. The design of the store is exactly like Owasso's. They have a few more groceries than a regular Target, but not as many Super Target.
The one down side to our experience. They had 1 whole cashier working!!! There were at least 6 people in front of us. Someone went and complained and the manager came out and said that they were slammed yesterday and a lot of people quit(couldn't take the heat/pressure)!! How sad is that? Either its poor interviewing or people lied to get the job and said they worked well under pressure.
So, if anyone is looking for a job Target is hiring cashiers!!
We just got home from there. Love the carts...they're like "sports carts"! zoom zoom
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Originally posted by Composer
I do not think the excitement is because of Target. I think it comes because Tulsa Hills is an opportunity for Tulsa to capture back some of the sales tax from its citizens without seeing them travel to the suburbs for their goods. Tulsa needs to get to $20 Million/month in revenue from sales tax. This city relies on it too much for it to be any lower. Now, we are seeing monthly receipts around $17 million.
Maybe we'll see it in 15 years when the bonds for the Tulsa Hills TIF are paid off. Right now, Tulsa won't see any of the sales tax from these vendors as it is dedicated to debt service as part of the TIF. In fact, you could argue it would hurt Tulsa's sales tax by taking it away from stores from which Tulsa DOES receive sales tax. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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Originally posted by safetyguy
We went to Target this morning for the supposed "Grand Opening". We got there around 9 and no big festivities for the "Grand Opening". Not that we were going for that, I just thought that they would have done more. The design of the store is exactly like Owasso's. They have a few more groceries than a regular Target, but not as many Super Target.
The one down side to our experience. They had 1 whole cashier working!!! There were at least 6 people in front of us. Someone went and complained and the manager came out and said that they were slammed yesterday and a lot of people quit(couldn't take the heat/pressure)!! How sad is that? Either its poor interviewing or people lied to get the job and said they worked well under pressure.
So, if anyone is looking for a job Target is hiring cashiers!!
OMG...the "pressure" of being a cashier these days is a joke. Everything is done for you. Only thing you are there for is to do price overrides and take coupons.
My god this country is going down the tubes.
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OMG...the "pressure" of being a cashier these days is a joke. Everything is done for you. Only thing you are there for is to do price overrides and take coupons.
Ha...One time I was @ 71st Target and I gave the cashier gal a diaper coupon...she said "Umm...I don't know how?" and gave the coupon back. Right up with the time a worker asked me how much cash I was giving her and how much change she should give me.
And of course, there is like 1 cashier for 30 registers.
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Originally posted by Kashmir
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OMG...the "pressure" of being a cashier these days is a joke. Everything is done for you. Only thing you are there for is to do price overrides and take coupons.
Ha...One time I was @ 71st Target and I gave the cashier gal a diaper coupon...she said "Umm...I don't know how?" and gave the coupon back. Right up with the time a worker asked me how much cash I was giving her and how much change she should give me.
And of course, there is like 1 cashier for 30 registers.
oh but wait, I thought that Target was supposed to be the bestest place to shop EVAR!!!!1!...?
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Originally posted by safetyguy
We went to Target this morning for the supposed "Grand Opening". We got there around 9 and no big festivities for the "Grand Opening". Not that we were going for that, I just thought that they would have done more. The design of the store is exactly like Owasso's. They have a few more groceries than a regular Target, but not as many Super Target.
The one down side to our experience. They had 1 whole cashier working!!! There were at least 6 people in front of us. Someone went and complained and the manager came out and said that they were slammed yesterday and a lot of people quit(couldn't take the heat/pressure)!! How sad is that? Either its poor interviewing or people lied to get the job and said they worked well under pressure.
So, if anyone is looking for a job Target is hiring cashiers!!
I went Thursday and Friday and there was about 8-10 cashiers every time. So in theory, 90% quit. They didn't seem to have a problem with me buying 13 cases of pop, each with a coupon. (156 cans for $21.16... ka-chow!)
Well, yeah! They have great kid stuff!
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Originally posted by Kashmir
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OMG...the "pressure" of being a cashier these days is a joke. Everything is done for you. Only thing you are there for is to do price overrides and take coupons.
Ha...One time I was @ 71st Target and I gave the cashier gal a diaper coupon...she said "Umm...I don't know how?" and gave the coupon back. Right up with the time a worker asked me how much cash I was giving her and how much change she should give me.
And of course, there is like 1 cashier for 30 registers.
We actually were going to take some coupons with us, but decided not to overwhelm them. Glad we didn't since they were already overwhelmed!!
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by safetyguy
We went to Target this morning for the supposed "Grand Opening". We got there around 9 and no big festivities for the "Grand Opening". Not that we were going for that, I just thought that they would have done more. The design of the store is exactly like Owasso's. They have a few more groceries than a regular Target, but not as many Super Target.
The one down side to our experience. They had 1 whole cashier working!!! There were at least 6 people in front of us. Someone went and complained and the manager came out and said that they were slammed yesterday and a lot of people quit(couldn't take the heat/pressure)!! How sad is that? Either its poor interviewing or people lied to get the job and said they worked well under pressure.
So, if anyone is looking for a job Target is hiring cashiers!!
I went Thursday and Friday and there was about 8-10 cashiers every time. So in theory, 90% quit. They didn't seem to have a problem with me buying 13 cases of pop, each with a coupon. (156 cans for $21.16... ka-chow!)
That's a heck of a lot of coupons!! Where did find that many?
does Targut not believe in self checkout? It works semi-well at Wal-Mart...when you don't have to deal with an idiot in front of you who should never be let near something electronic.
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Originally posted by safetyguy
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I went Thursday and Friday and there was about 8-10 cashiers every time. So in theory, 90% quit. They didn't seem to have a problem with me buying 13 cases of pop, each with a coupon. (156 cans for $21.16... ka-chow!)
That's a heck of a lot of coupons!! Where did find that many?
Every 2 liter, 20oz, and 12pack for the Diet Cherry Chocolate DrPepper had a $1 off coupon. Target had 12 packs for $2.50. Ta-da.
Michael's opens Sunday.
New Michaels may surprise (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=53&articleid=20090424_53_E1_Thenew632483)
Buffalo Wild Wings opens tomorrow.
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I went Thursday and Friday and there was about 8-10 cashiers every time. So in theory, 90% quit. They didn't seem to have a problem with me buying 13 cases of pop, each with a coupon. (156 cans for $21.16... ka-chow!)
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That's a heck of a lot of coupons!! Where did find that many?
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Every 2 liter, 20oz, and 12pack for the Diet Cherry Chocolate DrPepper had a $1 off coupon. Target had 12 packs for $2.50. Ta-da.
Diet cherry chocolate DP- just nasty. Did you ever drink it all or use it for weed killer?
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Diet cherry chocolate DP- just nasty. Did you ever drink it all or use it for weed killer?
I bought a two liter of that stuff last Christmas. It didn't see much action until I put it in the garbage. Nasty. Waste of a dollar and a half.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 24, 2009, 02:03:24 PM
Diet cherry chocolate DP- just nasty. Did you ever drink it all or use it for weed killer?
Drank it all, they don't make it anymore. The new Cherry DDP is better.
Sounds like my wife. The more syllables in the name of the soda, the more appealing. I assume if they had Diet Cherry Cheesecake Strawberry Surprise 7 Up, we would have at least 2 bottles of it in our fridge.
I'm more of a Diet Coke and Vodka guy. Or perhaps just Vodka on the rocks hold the rocks.
Quote from: sgrizzle on April 24, 2009, 02:54:11 PM
Drank it all, they don't make it anymore. The new Cherry DDP is better.
And it stayed down??? I think the focus groups missed on that flavor. Woof!