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Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: sportyart on March 27, 2007, 12:51:16 am
Downtown lacks green space and I thought it might be a neat idea to take the parking lots back on the block of 6th/main/7th/boston and turn it into a nice park with swings and everything but in a more art deco style to reflect and to give information about the art deco buildings that surround it.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: sgrizzle on March 27, 2007, 06:16:26 am
That is the future location of "The Centennial Green."


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: Vision 2025 on March 27, 2007, 02:38:33 pm
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

That is the future location of "The Centennial Green."


And it should advertise for bids soon.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: sgrizzle on March 27, 2007, 02:53:23 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Vision 2025

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

That is the future location of "The Centennial Green."


And it should advertise for bids soon.



Finally!

Got any more good news? I'll call you Santa!


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: sportyart on March 27, 2007, 08:34:07 pm
Sorry, I thought that project was dead sence nothing has happend.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: Rico on March 27, 2007, 09:05:41 pm
Nice to see you are still with us SA^...

I was thinking.... all the underground work that has been going on in that area.....?
Yeah... they may need restrooms in the park....

Maybe even a drinking fountain or a water feature.. Not all that easy to do when the lines have been capped and the Public Works Dept. only has a vague idea what street they are buried on...



[}:)]


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: TheTed on March 27, 2007, 11:35:47 pm
It's too bad we can't take every downtown surface lot and convert them to something more attractive. Then the people who complain about downtown parking might actually have something to complain about.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: sgrizzle on March 28, 2007, 06:18:26 am
I thought plans were posted her somewhere but I don't think they include a bathroom.

If the city had unlimited funds, they could build a half dozen garages and close all surface parking.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: Rico on March 28, 2007, 08:30:23 am
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

I thought plans were posted her somewhere but I don't think they include a bathroom.

If the city had unlimited funds, they could build a half dozen garages and close all surface parking.



^ Well if that is the case it will not be a Park designed for an afternoon or even a lunch hour...

Or just possibly the Metro Chamber is going to let the Park Goers have use of their facilities...?


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: sgrizzle on March 28, 2007, 09:09:09 am
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

I thought plans were posted her somewhere but I don't think they include a bathroom.

If the city had unlimited funds, they could build a half dozen garages and close all surface parking.



^ Well if that is the case it will not be a Park designed for an afternoon or even a lunch hour...

Or just possibly the Metro Chamber is going to let the Park Goers have use of their facilities...?



I doubt any half-block park really needs to be "full service" to get use. The plans called for a performance area and large fountain. If you add full restrooms you'd only have room left for about 6 people.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: Rico on March 28, 2007, 12:42:27 pm
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Rico

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

I thought plans were posted her somewhere but I don't think they include a bathroom.

If the city had unlimited funds, they could build a half dozen garages and close all surface parking.



^ Well if that is the case it will not be a Park designed for an afternoon or even a lunch hour...

Or just possibly the Metro Chamber is going to let the Park Goers have use of their facilities...?



I doubt any half-block park really needs to be "full service" to get use. The plans called for a performance area and large fountain. If you add full restrooms you'd only have room left for about 6 people.



My apologies....... I was under the impression that it was to take up the block...
Just slightly larger than a pocket park eh....

The hobos are not going to like this..


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: sgrizzle on March 28, 2007, 01:15:56 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Rico


My apologies....... I was under the impression that it was to take up the block...
Just slightly larger than a pocket park eh....

The hobos are not going to like this..



The building on the SE corner might mind.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: mr.jaynes on April 23, 2007, 01:41:50 pm
quote:
Originally posted by sportyart

Downtown lacks green space and I thought it might be a neat idea to take the parking lots back on the block of 6th/main/7th/boston and turn it into a nice park with swings and everything but in a more art deco style to reflect and to give information about the art deco buildings that surround it.



I agree, as long as the Art Deco used in such a project is of the original 1920's-1940's vintage, and not a replica. The craftsmanship and sensibilities that went into the original Art Deco can never be replicated. I do remember Tulsa having some exquisite Art Deco at one time, but I also remember them tearing alot of it down too.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: TheArtist on April 23, 2007, 02:22:10 pm
I was looking at the Christies Auction site the other day and noticed they had an auction coming up that had a collection of Art-Deco pieces.  It occured to me that an Art-Deco Museum in downtown Tulsa would be a neat idea.  People love art-deco and some of the sculpture and paintings from that era are still reasonably priced.  Many available works, large sculptures, and paintings are quite stunning. Having a large collection of them in one place would be very enjoyable.  A museum of this type would be a unique promotional asset that would compliment and build upon Tulsa's art-deco heritage.


Rather than furtively searching for an image or copying what other cities have done.  
This could be yet one more example of taking something that Tulsa already has which already makes it unique compared to most cities, and building on it.  

A project like this could be started small, still be very enjoyable, and built upon over time. A couple of ground floor rooms in one of those currently unused art-deco buildings downtown would be great.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: Kiah on April 24, 2007, 12:14:42 pm
Land Legacy (http://"http://www.landlegacy.com/index.asp?page=news")

(http://www.landlegacy.com/images/ParkConPlan.gif)
(http://www.landlegacy.com/images/PetroWallFountainCon.gif)
(http://www.landlegacy.com/images/ParkKioskCon.gif)


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: TheArtist on April 24, 2007, 02:58:29 pm
Well, OMG.  I can't believe it.  I really like this park.  And you know how critical I can be lol.  The layout is wonderful. Fantastic attention to detail! Love the unique oval within a rectangle design and then the circles on top of that.  The fountain is well done.  Great placement of wall and the Amphitheater.  The food court is very nice how its nestled in the trees.  Great placement and use of space for each of the many different elements. Wonderful materials, glazed terra cotta and etched aluminum.  Each of the elements has a contemporary flair but are classical and timeless in their feel and functionality.  

The first renderings I saw for the proposed park were ho hum at best.  This in comparison is faaaantastic. Please let them do this at least as good as these "preliminary park design drawings" show. No cheaping out or getting whimpy.

Bravo to whoever designed this. And I am stunned that there is a descision maker in this town with the right eye to see that this is good design and to go with it.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: jdb on April 24, 2007, 05:31:47 pm
"Sorry, I thought that project was dead sence nothing has happend." - Sporty

Easy mistake to make. Live here long enough and you'll get used to it.

Yippee, a plan for a park with a toilet...what'll they think of next?...and it's only 2007.

Betting swakes falling out of his recliner about now. jdb



Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: Rico on April 24, 2007, 06:23:54 pm
quote:
Originally posted by jdb

"Sorry, I thought that project was dead sence nothing has happend." - Sporty

Easy mistake to make. Live here long enough and you'll get used to it.

Yippee, a plan for a park with a toilet...what'll they think of next?...and it's only 2007.

Betting swakes falling out of his recliner about now. jdb





Hold up there my amigo... sgrizzle says they won't have any facilities(toilet)....

Something about.... they would have to tear down the Metro Chamber to have one..? Can't really remember.

They have trees though..!



Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: TheArtist on April 24, 2007, 06:28:03 pm
Hey now.  Better to have a nice park than a lousy park. Which is what I thought we were getting with the original renderings.  And yes it does have restrooms lol.


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: Rico on April 24, 2007, 06:32:09 pm
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Hey now.  Better to have a nice park than a lousy park. Which is what I thought we were getting with the original renderings.  And yes it does have restrooms lol.



well.. there you have it..... another sinister rumor created by sgrizzle.


[}:)]


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: sgrizzle on April 24, 2007, 07:39:59 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Hey now.  Better to have a nice park than a lousy park. Which is what I thought we were getting with the original renderings.  And yes it does have restrooms lol.



well.. there you have it..... another sinister rumor created by sgrizzle.


[}:)]



The restrooms are in the "possible future restaurant addition"


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: TheArtist on April 24, 2007, 11:25:40 pm
Well that would seem to be fitting for a "possible future park" [:P]


Title: Art Deco Park
Post by: mr.jaynes on June 03, 2007, 03:37:32 pm
For fans of classic deco and moderne architecture, here's a little blast from 1936, give this a peep!

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/%22miss%2Bglory%22/video/x1d7ur_page-miss-glory