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Post by: aoxamaxoa on July 31, 2007, 09:13:53 PM
OUCH!!!
durn truth tellers.... http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/article/0,28136,1648325,00.html?cid=feed-tours_news-20070731-1648325
The trouble with Tulsa
I'd like to thank the PGA of America for sending us to Tulsa in August. I guess Death Valley wasn't available. I'm not a huge fan of Southern Hills. It was great in its day — the 1970s — but doesn't hold up to today's power game. When we all lay up to the same spot on the corner of a dogleg, it seems like the staggered start of a 400-meter race. I hope they've fixed the 9th and 18th greens, which were such a joke in the '01 Open that they had to mow them to a different length to make them semi-playable.



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Post by: sgrizzle on July 31, 2007, 09:20:34 PM
If you read Tiger's press conference awhile back he had different comments about the same things. What this writer considered "not suited for today's power game" Tiger said was "more challenging." If every hole is drive-chip-putt, drive-chip-putt, drive-chip-putt then there is no real challenge or entertainment. This is the kind of course that Happy Gilmore would suck at, and that is good.
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Post by: Breadburner on July 31, 2007, 09:46:32 PM
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Originally posted by sgrizzle

If you read Tiger's press conference awhile back he had different comments about the same things. What this writer considered "not suited for today's power game" Tiger said was "more challenging." If every hole is drive-chip-putt, drive-chip-putt, drive-chip-putt then there is no real challenge or entertainment. This is the kind of course that Happy Gilmore would suck at, and that is good.



Top shelf......
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Post by: cannon_fodder on August 01, 2007, 08:45:46 AM
I'll see YOUR truth teller and raise you MY truth teller:

quote:
Southern Hills - The Most Unsung Course of the Majors

Ask any golfer to list the private masterpieces he or she would love to play before dying and you'll get many similar answers. Augusta National, Shinnecock Hills, Winged Foot, Oakmont, Cypress Point, Pine Valley and Merion top most people's lists. Fans of golf course architecture will add such gems as Sand Hills, Friar's Head, Monterey Peninsula Country Club (Shore Course) and Crystal Downs. Yet casual fans and architecture experts alike almost uniformly overlook Southern Hills in Tulsa.

Perhaps it's because Southern Hills is in Tulsa and is known more for blistering heat and a seemingly repetitive narrow, tree-lined parkland layout. Maybe it's because - despite having hosted three U.S. Opens and three PGA Championships - the course's strength is in its design strategy and cleverly sloping greens, which don't translate on television like Pebble Beach or Whistling Straits, which have arresting natural settings. Maybe it's because we've devolved into a "flyover state" mentality in golf and believe that if it doesn't border water, it's second-class. Well, whatever the reason, get ready to be pleasantly surprised by Perry Maxwell's Midwest masterpiece when it hosts this year's PGA Championship August 9-12.
. . .
Combined with the design features of the rest of Southern Hills, the greens cement what will prove to be the fairest and most complete test of golf skill in this year's majors and will ensure that grinders and shot-shapers will have an equal chance with the long bombers.



http://www.cybergolf.com/indexgenerator.asp?newsid=5253
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Post by: AMP on August 02, 2007, 08:18:39 PM
Wonder if many of the Tulsa trailer food vendors will set up around 61st and Peoria on those vacent lots during the PGA?  

Most of those vendors that offer the $1.00 Tacos and 50 cent Cokes would make a killing during the PGA tour in Tulsa.

And the Ice Cream guys with the little green karts would be hauling in the bucks with their 25 cent popsicles.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 05, 2007, 11:26:33 PM
TIGER TIME!!!!![:O]
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Post by: inteller on August 06, 2007, 07:22:36 PM
If Southern Hills didn't bring something special to the mix it wouldn't be hopsting the championship FORTHE RECORD 4TH TIME.

Southern Hills (along with the southern heat) separate the men from the boys.  I predict Tiger will have a meltdown...literally if not figuratively.  Someone else is taking this championship.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 06, 2007, 11:08:26 PM
Better get out there and enjoy it.

I bet you he crunches the field. He's the best man in this activity.
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Post by: Johnboy976 on August 06, 2007, 11:16:26 PM
Tiger is hacked at the course because he struggles EVERY SINGLE TIME HE PLAYS IT!!! I'm sorry, but when most experts agree that the course is one of the best in the country, Tiger's own opinions fall short of validity.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 06, 2007, 11:50:16 PM
He will show us he is the greatest golfer ever.....again!

And he will show us what a class act is....
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Post by: Rowdy on August 07, 2007, 07:10:54 AM
quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

He will show us he is the greatest golfer ever.....again!

And he will show us what a class act is....



You must be one of those that would shake his hand and never wash it again.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 07, 2007, 09:53:36 AM
^last time we shook hands it was his authenticity that took hold....not the clasp of the hand shake.
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Post by: restored2x on August 07, 2007, 10:25:54 AM
I'm rooting for Tiger. The guy is incredible! Did you see him make the course his *itch this past weekend? Wow. A hard game that he makes look easy.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 09, 2007, 01:38:12 PM
John Daly is staying at a local casino, did not practice, and just showed up to play....and more than golf evidently. Whadda ya expect from a Hooters sponsored golfer.

He's leading the PGA.

He shoots 85 tomorrow.
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Post by: Conan71 on August 09, 2007, 02:47:27 PM
Think Daly will start snapping clubs and leave in a pissed off huff after tomorrow night.

At least beer sweats help keep you cool.
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Post by: RecycleMichael on August 09, 2007, 03:40:59 PM
Did you all see Angel Cabrera?

U.S. Open Champion scores a ten on the par three sixth hole.

I could do that.
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Post by: iplaw on August 09, 2007, 03:43:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

Did you all see Angel Cabrera?

U.S. Open Champion scores a ten on the par three sixth hole.

I could do that.

Wow...that's magnificent.  Was he throwing the golf ball by hand or was he actually using clubs?
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 09, 2007, 03:52:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

Did you all see Angel Cabrera?

U.S. Open Champion scores a ten on the par three sixth hole.

I could do that.



rule #1. Don't go over the greens at the hills.

don't forget rule 1. It got Tiger today.
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Post by: RecycleMichael on August 09, 2007, 03:55:03 PM
The leader at the moment is Englishman Graeme Storm.

At the Masters earlier this year his caddy was his mother. I love the idea of making mom drag my heavy golf bag around, but he should have just found someone else.
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Post by: Conan71 on August 09, 2007, 04:14:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

Did you all see Angel Cabrera?

U.S. Open Champion scores a ten on the par three sixth hole.

I could do that.



rule #1. Don't go over the greens at the hills.

don't forget rule 1. It got Tiger today.



Tied for 47th five back last time I looked.  That's not a good hole to have dug for himself in the first round at So. Hills.  But this is Tiger we are talking about and he's pulled off some improbable comebacks.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 09, 2007, 04:25:12 PM
5 behind is perfect looking at the leader names. Thought Storm was out of Switzerland....
he must be packin' ice.
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Post by: sgrizzle on August 09, 2007, 10:38:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

Did you all see Angel Cabrera?

U.S. Open Champion scores a ten on the par three sixth hole.

I could do that.

Wow...that's magnificent.  Was he throwing the golf ball by hand or was he actually using clubs?



This little exchange is the funniest thing I've seen all day. It actually topped me seeing Wilbur (and the wilburmobile) working with two other officers to maintain the most secure schlotzsky's in a 4 state area.
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Post by: Rowdy on August 10, 2007, 04:14:16 AM
That explains Wilbur's demeanor...
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Post by: mr.jaynes on August 10, 2007, 01:18:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

OUCH!!!
durn truth tellers.... http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/article/0,28136,1648325,00.html?cid=feed-tours_news-20070731-1648325
The trouble with Tulsa
I'd like to thank the PGA of America for sending us to Tulsa in August. I guess Death Valley wasn't available. I'm not a huge fan of Southern Hills. It was great in its day — the 1970s — but doesn't hold up to today's power game. When we all lay up to the same spot on the corner of a dogleg, it seems like the staggered start of a 400-meter race. I hope they've fixed the 9th and 18th greens, which were such a joke in the '01 Open that they had to mow them to a different length to make them semi-playable.



Southern hills always kinda reminded me of those Caddyshack movies-and not just because of the golf course!
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Post by: RecycleMichael on August 10, 2007, 05:57:06 PM
Tiger is seven under for the day with three to play. Par on these three will tie the course record and another birdie will set a new record for the lowest score ever in a major.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 10, 2007, 06:28:55 PM
The axman is right again.....Tiger is the greatest.[}:)]
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Post by: RecycleMichael on August 10, 2007, 06:50:31 PM
Tiger had the putt halfway down the cup and it popped out. If he had made it, it would have been the lowest score in major tournament history. Announcer Jim Nanntz said it was the worse "lip out" he had ever seen

Still, a 63 ties the course record and gives him a two shot lead.

I could shoot a 63 (if I skipped the last seven or eight holes).
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Post by: Rowdy on August 10, 2007, 07:41:36 PM
Fact Alert:

Tiger poops and sweats like the rest of us!
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Post by: YoungTulsan on August 11, 2007, 02:33:56 AM
They were talking about today as "the best round of Tiger's life, and thats saying something" on sports radio.  (National program, not the local one)

That is saying something.

But a lot of people are also assuming he got screwed on the 18th green and that we should all just pretend that it went in.  For historical purposes of course.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 11, 2007, 09:16:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Rowdy

Fact Alert:




Tiger poops and sweats like the rest of us!




sounds as though someone has a problem with other's superiority.....
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Post by: Rowdy on August 11, 2007, 12:53:01 PM
I have a problem with people like you putting others in a place where they shouldn't be. No one should be idolized.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 11, 2007, 02:11:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rowdy

I have a problem with people like you putting others in a place where they shouldn't be. No one should be idolized.



Well, I think our society lacks "idols" today. People with integrity to look up to and try to be similar to. People who are true and honest.

False idols are another story. We've gotten our share of too much of that bs from the neo-cons and religious fanatics.

We live in the age when the superstars all went away....

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Post by: Rowdy on August 11, 2007, 02:31:52 PM
I understand what you mean.  I just see a lot of people go off the deep end with sports figures.  If someone is in awe of someone's ability to hit a ball into a hole in the earth-then that is there choosing.
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Post by: Breadburner on August 11, 2007, 02:35:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rowdy

I understand what you mean.  I just see a lot of people go off the deep end with sports figures.  If someone is in awe of someone's ability to hit a ball into a hole in the earth-then that is there choosing.



I wish lighting would strike every person that says "Get in the hole" when Tiger tees off....
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Post by: RecycleMichael on August 11, 2007, 03:44:22 PM
Sergio Garcia got disqualified today for signing an incorrect card.

The guy he was playing with kept his score and made the error, but Sergio signed the mistake and the rules disqualified him.

He was in 63rd place and probably didn't want to play in the heat anyway, but it cost him thousands of dollars.

http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?slug=ap-pga-garciadq&prov=ap&type=lgns

Another bad break: Garcia signs incorrect card and gets booted from PGA
By EDDIE PELLS, AP National Writer
August 11, 2007

TULSA, Okla. (AP) -- Sergio Garcia was disqualified from the PGA Championship on Saturday for signing an incorrect scorecard. Garcia, who made the cut on the number at 5-over par, signed for a 4 on the par-4 17th hole, when he in fact recorded a 5. He shot a 4-over 74 in the third round, though that score was not official because of the disqualification.

In tournament golf, players exchange scorecards and keep each other's score. Garcia was playing alongside Boo Weekley, who wrote down the score down incorrectly. At the end of the round, it is the player's responsibility to check the card for accuracy and Garcia didn't do that.

Garcia had left the course and was not available for comment when his disqualification was announced. "It's my fault for putting the wrong score in, but it's his fault for not checking," said Weekley, who shot 5-under 65. "I just said 'Sergio, I put a 4 but in fact you had a 5.' He said, 'That just puts the icing on the cake."'

Indeed, it has been a rough week and a rough summer for Garcia. On Thursday, Garcia got into an animated argument with a course official who put his group on the clock as they made the turn. After an opening-round 70, he shot 75 the second day to fall out of contention. At the British Open, Garcia lost in a playoff after barely missing a putt on the 18th hole that would have won the tournament. In a memorable post-round news conference, he complained about all the breaks that go against him and all the bad luck he has.

"You know what's the saddest thing about it?" Garcia said. "It's not the first time. It's not the first time, unfortunately. So, I don't know, I'm playing against a lot of guys out there, more than the field." Weekley said he called Garcia back to the scoring tent after the scorecard had been signed, in hopes the mistake could be fixed. But officials said once Garcia had left the "scoring area perimeter," there was no correcting the problem. "He just took off," Weekley said. "I called him back down and tried to get him before he got all the way up the stairs."

The most famous scoring gaffe came at the 1968 Masters when Roberto De Vicenzo signed for the wrong score. De Vicenzo actually signed for a higher score on a hole, so he wasn't disqualified, but he had to take the extra stroke, knocking him out of playoff with Bob Goalby.

In 2003, English journeyman Mark Roe was disqualified after shooting 67 in the British Open. Both he and Jesper Parnevik were disqualified because they forgot to exchange scorecards before they teed off. Roe was only two strokes off the lead. Garcia's blunder was nowhere near as dramatic. With a three-day score of 9 over, he would have been tied for 63rd in the 72-man field, with about half the players still out.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 11, 2007, 04:34:58 PM
The little spitter from Spain is a pain.....
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Post by: Rowdy on August 11, 2007, 09:40:18 PM
But the rain falls mainly on the plain.
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Post by: RecycleMichael on August 11, 2007, 09:45:16 PM
It was brutal hot out there today.

I swear some of the players hit their ball into the trees just to get some shade.
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Post by: Breadburner on August 11, 2007, 11:09:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

The little spitter from Spain is a pain.....



He is a lil *****...
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Post by: Rowdy on August 12, 2007, 06:32:31 PM
Congrats to Woods.  At least with golf, it is all about skill and no referee to decide the outcome.  I am happy for him.
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Post by: ttownclown on August 12, 2007, 06:37:08 PM
The PGA Championship is officially over.  I am curious what the attendance was each day.  If someone runs across those figures, feel free to post them.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 13, 2007, 08:32:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ttownclown

The PGA Championship is officially over.  I am curious what the attendance was each day.  If someone runs across those figures, feel free to post them.



It did not appear more than 10,000 were there Sunday. Saturday looked big with maybe 30,000 in attendence.

Lots of gross boozers on Sunday.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 13, 2007, 08:38:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

He will show us he is the greatest golfer ever.....again!

And he will show us what a class act is....



A week ago prediction proves true.

It's nice he came to Tulsa and did something for the city that the Chamber of Commerce has not been able to achieve in their entire existence.

The headline in the morning Whirled should have used Tiger's winning comment, "It's really cool".

Oh the irony!!!Those old SHCC founders must be spinning in their graves.
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Post by: Lister on August 13, 2007, 08:41:24 AM
I'm happy Tiger won. Anybody know where he was staying while he was here?
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 13, 2007, 08:59:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Lister

I'm happy Tiger won. Anybody know where he was staying while he was here?



Off 26th and Birmingham by Tulsa Tennis Club is what I've heard....
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Post by: RecycleMichael on August 13, 2007, 09:04:15 AM
I looked for him at the La Quinta, but he must have gone in the back entrance.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 18, 2007, 05:12:18 PM
Evidently, there was a lot of crime following the pga around....the latest report sez $75,000 worth of golf equipment was stolen from the main pga golf tech after the tournament. He left town after the pga and upon return found he'd been cleaned out.

I know someone who worked the whirled tent chalet and said one night someone stole 25 shirts....

Just great for our rep. That and the pissers at Garden Park.

Wonder what else went down we don't know....
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Post by: swake on August 19, 2007, 08:23:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

quote:
Originally posted by ttownclown

The PGA Championship is officially over.  I am curious what the attendance was each day.  If someone runs across those figures, feel free to post them.



It did not appear more than 10,000 were there Sunday. Saturday looked big with maybe 30,000 in attendence.

Lots of gross boozers on Sunday.



350,000 over seven days

http://www.kjrh.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=7ec659ff-1b22-46cd-bd41-3de6089c58c8
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Post by: cannon_fodder on August 20, 2007, 11:00:34 AM
AOX

Are you saying the PGA being in town was bad news too?  You seem to be trying REAL hard to convince us that it is.
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Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 20, 2007, 03:52:33 PM
Don't believe all that you hear and read. Impressions come first for promotional purposes.
There's many things happening at the PGA and in Tulsa, good and bad, that stay quiet.
It was a tremendous event for Tulsa.
You've seen nothing to the contrary.
Some read negativity and turn to fear and outrage. Some go a step further and try to turn it around.

Don't bully the axman.
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Post by: cannon_fodder on August 20, 2007, 04:45:09 PM
I just asked a simple question 9which you really didnt answer).  If asking for clarification is bullying then things are bound to get real ugly... because your post just create a litany of additional questions.

Awww never mind, not worth the effort.