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If you really want to attract the Jet Setters, build a Formula-1 Circuit.
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I'll pay taxes of 13% to get one of those. This is a car loving part of the country and this would be a hit.
They kept blabbing about a road course out at TRP but that never happened and Hallett is too far out that most people have never heard of it.
We'd be hard pressed though to get a track as nice as Sepang.
Great idea! There are plenty of folks who would play plenty to run their rides on one of those between races - I know I would.
In this area of the Country.. This would be a "cash cow".
The Arena.. will amount to a stepping stone....
This would have generated Hard Cash! and many, many, sales tax dollars..
Build it on a remediated Tar Creek Superfund site. Make it a Formula One and Nascar track restricted to zero emission vehicles only.
Would 500 Million dollars be a start?
I certainly would have found that preferable to the arena. But I wonder if it would have got the 60% of the vote the way the arena did.
Would have liked to see something unique as opposed to an "iconic" arena that every other city has or is building...
Think it cost about $125m to be built, but that was 10 years ago?...... wonder how much it would cost to put something like that here...?
Are there any stats on what such a track has brought, economically, to cooperating cities?
F1. Sweet. Now that's world class thinking.
Slightly less ambitious, I've had vivid dreams of a Grand Prix on RSD and downtown streets. Once, many years ago, I saw some practice runs up close in Cleveland. The images and sounds have been stuck in my head ever since. It really is indescribably cool.
In the real world though, I think F1 cars would get shaken to pieces on our lousy streets. Maybe an off-road circuit?[;)]
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Originally posted by Chicken Little
F1. Sweet. Now that's world class thinking.
Slightly less ambitious, I've had vivid dreams of a Grand Prix on RSD and downtown streets. Once, many years ago, I saw some practice runs up close in Cleveland. The images and sounds have been stuck in my head ever since. It really is indescribably cool.
In the real world though, I think F1 cars would get shaken to pieces on our lousy streets. Maybe an off-road circuit?[;)]
the lafortune administration gave it serious consideration, but the roads weren't in good shape. also they'd have to weld down the manhole covers as they'd get sucked off as the cars passed.
i say we convince semgroup to pave a circuit of downtown with their polymix and then hold the SemGroup GP every year to showcase our smooth roads.
I've been a racer and race fan all my life. But get real. First you have to have a race to sell. You aren't going to get F1 or NASCAR. The best you can hope for is ALMS. You can't survive on SCCA.
As much as I would love to see NASCAR guys pounding an Okie track, it ain't gonna happen.
Btw, how many of you went to the Trans Am race at Warbonnet? Now, that was a race.
Better yet, how many of you ever heard of Warbonnet?
I'm admiring your thought processes here Inteller. That's an excellent promotion one of the largest private companies in the world. If you could take a city with the top 10 worst streets and make a hot race circuit out of it with Sem products, that's be something to sell.
For the city, it'd be one way to get a couple of miles of streets fixed, and it'd give taxpayers a glimpse of what good streets could be like.
If anybody runs into Mr. Kivisto at a cocktail party, be sure and share this idea.
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Originally posted by Chicken Little
I'm admiring your thought processes here Inteller. That's an excellent promotion one of the largest private companies in the world. If you could take a city with the top 10 worst streets and make a hot race circuit out of it with Sem products, that's be something to sell.
For the city, it'd be one way to get a couple of miles of streets fixed, and it'd give taxpayers a glimpse of what good streets could be like.
If anybody runs into Mr. Kivisto at a cocktail party, be sure and share this idea.
nah, the idea is too good and makes too much sense that it'll never happen.
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Originally posted by mspivey
I've been a racer and race fan all my life. But get real. First you have to have a race to sell. You aren't going to get F1 or NASCAR. The best you can hope for is ALMS. You can't survive on SCCA.
As much as I would love to see NASCAR guys pounding an Okie track, it ain't gonna happen.
Btw, how many of you went to the Trans Am race at Warbonnet? Now, that was a race.
Better yet, how many of you ever heard of Warbonnet?
yes, i've heard of warbonnet, and visited the remnants a few years back. a track of that scale could survive on Speed series SCCA races. An F1 track would need the 1 F1 event every year as well as IndyCar and some SCCA races.
Warbonnet was a rock n roll place. They also held an FIM Motorcycle GP Race there, majority of the Factory Teams were on hand. We always sat on top of the Cat Tractor to watch a few sprint races.
Halett was bulit for Vintage small low horsepower auto racing, but handles club and motorcycles very well. COMMA, CMRA, and the brand clubs plus IKF Karting. While the Stephens family have improved that facility and it is top shelf for Oklahoma, it is not a circuit that could qualify to host an FIM, MotoGP, F1, IRL or other type of event.
Here are some photos of the Warbonnet track.
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WAR BONNET CIRCUIT
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Pete York #1 along side of Buddy Cagle #52 in a unique day of Super Modifieds racing at WAR BONNET. Note, they are turning right and the track is asphalt!
Alf Gephardt has the drawings of that proposed Tulsa GP Street Circuit on the wall at his JRP shop in West Tulsa.
Bought my first car from Alf. Still have it ....73 2002 BMW.
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Originally posted by AMP
Halett was bulit for Vintage small low horsepower auto racing, but handles club and motorcycles very well. COMMA, CMRA, and the brand clubs plus IKF Karting. While the Stephens family have improved that facility and it is top shelf for Oklahoma, it is not a circuit that could qualify to host an FIM, MotoGP, F1, IRL or other type of event.
no, but they should shoot for some Speed touring series events. I think they could get the track in shape for that.