Pennington's Drive In
Home of Blackbottom Pie, Wiz Burgers, and Fried Shrimp Dinners
Name your favorite restaurant that is no longer in Tulsa.
Powers, a steak place on the east side of Harvard near 33rd or 34th.
Nelson's Buffeteria, of course.
(And, aside from the social and nostalgic aspects, I personally found Pennington's rather overrated.)
Rosies
Rex Chicken
S & J Oyster Bar.....
Shotgun Sams....
Ma Bells.....
Wing's hamburgers
East Side Cafe
Nelson's
Molly Murphy's
Charlie Mitchell's
Elliots Bar-B-Que
East Side cafe...good call.
I took a bunch of out-of-town guys there about fifteen years ago. These were major players buying recycling and trash businesses across the country and the top guy said he wanted to eat at a regular diner for lunch.
He was so impressed with East Side. About five years ago I was giving a speech in California and during the question and answer portion he asked me in front of the whole audience if I could get him some of those wondeful onion rings again.
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
East Side cafe...good call.
I took a bunch of out-of-town guys there about fifteen years ago. These were major players buying recycling and trash businesses across the country and the top guy said he wanted to eat at a regular diner for lunch.
He was so impressed with East Side. About five years ago I was giving a speech in California and during the question and answer portion he asked me in front of the whole audience if I could get him some of those wondeful onion rings again.
Yeah. I have good memories of that place. It was one of the last places my dad and I ate at before he passed away a couple years ago. The last year he was alive he took my wife and I to all of the places (that still existed) that he had enjoyed over the years.
Was the "best restaurant thread" too happy or what? Maybe I'm just crazy, but it seems no matter what is posted someone has to try to make a negative statement. Not saying that's why you started the thread AMP, just saying it seems to me there can't ever be good news.
If the restaurant is gone, apparently not enough people that it was "the best."
My favorite restaurant that's gone - Metro Diner. Too bad they didn't open back up, but I suppose selling out is the only real way to leave the business with a profit.
Some of my fave's were already mentioned.
One I miss is Bella Italia.
Uno's Pizzaria, even though it was a chain.
(the frozen version you see in stores isnt the same... must be the lead paint from China) [;)]
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Was the "best restaurant thread" too happy or what? Maybe I'm just crazy, but it seems no matter what is posted someone has to try to make a negative statement. Not saying that's why you started the thread AMP, just saying it seems to me there can't ever be good news.
If the restaurant is gone, apparently not enough people that it was "the best."
My favorite restaurant that's gone - Metro Diner. Too bad they didn't open back up, but I suppose selling out is the only real way to leave the business with a profit.
Hey Negative
My Pie pizza. I still miss that one. There was a restaurant around 61st and Lewis--I think maybe MaBelle?--they had great nachos, and you ordered everything by phone. Not that it had good food, but I miss the Furrs in Utica Square--my family use to eat there every Sunday night. As a kid, it was great to pick out anything I wanted. Not that I ate anything except for the chocolate cream pie.
Not sure why some closed. But when they were open they were some of the hot spots in Tulsa for many. Some small businesses close when the principal owner looses interest, retires or passes away. Similar to when one operated by a dentist, doctor, mechanic, jeweler, tech, locksmith, machinist or other skilled person moves on.
Seems there are many more older restaurants that are still open and doing well in Oklahoma City than in tulsa. Molly Murphys was still open in OKC last time I was there.
The National Chains just don't have that owner on site appeal that most of these did. Something about having a person that actually puts some love into preparing your food, versus a person that seems to hate their job and it watching the clock while making it. LOL
Perhaps it was the quality of the food as well. Today's chains seem to buy their food from the Sysco truck or other national supplier. I recall some of these got their meat from Tulsa Beef or Hodges or Bauer & Sons meat processing in Sand Springs, Fadlers, again a local thing.
Few More of my Favorites
The Original Impressions 15th & Lewis Pasta & Prime Rib Sandwich - Now located Downtown
Der Winersnitzel
The orginal Ron's Hamburgers 15th & Harvard
Other Ron's Hamburgers are still all over the area.
The Italian Inn
Lea's Pizzareia 43rd & Peoria
Shakey's Pizza
My Pie Pizza (Used the Pi Sign)
Crystal's Pizza
Kings Hamburgers 31st & Sheridan
Shaw's Hamburgers 32nd & Yale
Steven's Hamburger's corner 28th & Yale
The Pines East Pine between Sheridan & Memorial
Mark & Tammy's Hamburgers
Golden Drumstick 11th & Yale
Middle Path Restaurant 11th & Yale
Tastee Freeze or Dariy Queen On East 11th
Chuck Wagon East 11th Giant Wheel Burgers
Partners East 11th Hot Apple Pie Alamode
Ma Bells 51st & Yale, Admiral & Sherican
Griff's Hamburgers
Burger Chef
Shoney's
Star Restaurant
Kips Big Boy 11th, downtown, Memorial - Known as other first name Big Boy in other cities
Hardens Chicken - By Johnny Harden
There is an Harden's Hamburgers near 4th and Sheridan now.
Pancake Place
Pure Milk 41st & Hudson
Cafe at the Rose Bowl
Cafe at Yale Bowl
Ken's Pizza - Ken Selby still has other Pizza restaurants in Tulsa.
Concession Stand at Tulsa Speedway
Bisquits Plus
Sambos
The Speakeasy Steak Places 91st & Lewis/Deleware and one out south east of Broken Arrow.
Ann's Bakery - Currently Closed due to a fire.
Helmut's Alpine Kitchen
Hungry Pelican
Dickie's Fish and Chips
Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips
East Side Cafe
The Library on 11th
Der Wienerschnitzel
Martin's BBQ
Shotgun Sams
Applegate's Landing
Zuider Zee
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Originally posted by AMP
Not sure why some closed. But when they were open they were some of the hot spots in Tulsa for many. Some small businesses close when the principal owner looses interest, retires or passes away. Similar to when one operated by a dentist, doctor, mechanic, jeweler, tech, locksmith, machinist or other skilled person moves on.
Seems there are many more older restaurants that are still open and doing well in Oklahoma City than in tulsa. Molly Murphys was still open in OKC last time I was there.
The National Chains just don't have that owner on site appeal that most of these did. Something about having a person that actually puts some love into preparing your food, versus a person that seems to hate their job and it watching the clock while making it. LOL
Perhaps it was the quality of the food as well. Today's chains seem to buy their food from the Sysco truck or other national supplier. I recall some of these got their meat from Tulsa Beef or Hodges or Bauer & Sons meat processing in Sand Springs, Fadlers, again a local thing.
Few More of my Favorites
Impressions 15th & Lewis Pasta & Prime Rib Sandwich
Der Winersnitzel
The orginal Ron's Hamburgers 15th & Harvard
The Italian Inn
Lea's Pizzareia 43rd & Peoria
Shakey's Pizza
My Pie Pizza (Used the Pi Sign)
Crystal's Pizza
Kings Hamburgers 31st & Sheridan
Shaw's Hamburgers 32nd & Yale
Steven's Hamburger's corner 28th & Yale
The Pines East Pine between Sheridan & Memorial
Mark & Tammy's Hamburgers
Golden Drumstick 11th & Yale
Middle Path Restaurant 11th & Yale
Dariy Queen East 11th
Chuck Wagon East 11th Giant Wheel Burgers
Partners East 11th Hot Apple Pie Alamode
Ma Bells 51st & Yale, Admiral & Sherican
Griff's Hamburgers
Burger Chef
Shoney's
Star Restaurant
Chefs Big Boy 11th downtown, Memorial
Hardens Chicken
Pancake Place
Pure Milk 41st & Hudson
Cafe at the Rose Bowl
Cafe at Yale Bowl
Ken's Pizza
Concession Stand at Tulsa Speedway
Bisquits Plus
Sambos
The Speakeasy Steak Places 91st & Lewis/Deleware and one out south east of Broken Arrow.
Ann's Bakery
Fadler's is still around. A number of places on your list are open and a lot of your list IS made up of dead or nearly dead national chains. A lot of the others were mom and pop places that like you said were never going to outlive the owners.
Impressions is still open, now downtown.
Der Winersnitzel is a chain that is nearly gone nationally
Ron's Hamburgers, you can't go two miles in town without hitting a Ron's, it was not but now is a regional chain.
Shakey's Pizza, national chain that went under
Dairy Queen East 11th, A national chain and there are a still few Dairy Queens around Tulsa (and not a good chain at all)
Burger Chef. Another national chain, now gone
Shoney's, National chain (and not a good chain at all, closed largely on health department violations if I recall)
Chefs Big Boy 11th downtown, Memorial, It was Kips, and also a chain and also largely gone nationally.
Hardens Chicken, Harden is still open I believe
Ken's Pizza, Ken's was part of Mazzio's, it was brand of the Tulsa based regional chain that was ended
Ann's Bakery, they had a fire and I think they are still planning on reopening
And, Molly Murphy's closed in OKC more than a decade ago. You really should get out more.
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Hardens Chicken
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FYI. There's still a KEN's pizza in Sapulpa for anyone who cares...
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And, Molly Murphy's closed in OKC more than a decade ago. You really should get out more.
Hey ***...I believe that the thread is titled "Best of - Tulsa Restaurants That Are
Gone. I didn't realize we were supposed to talk about restaurants that were still around. I should have read more closely.[xx(]
The original Mondo's on 61st. St. They used to show the old silent films.
Blue Rose Cafe- I absolutely loved the Blue Rose Special burger and their marinated chicken nachos.
Personally, I thought Pennington's black bottom pie sucked.
Razor Clam
Louisiane
9 of Cups
Happy Joe's Pizza
My Pi Pizza
Shotgun Sam's
The Pagoda
The Fountains
Charlie Mitchell's
Sorry I left off Sambo's........
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Originally posted by AMP
Not sure why some closed. But when they were open they were some of the hot spots in Tulsa for many. Some small businesses close when the principal owner looses interest, retires or passes away. Similar to when one operated by a dentist, doctor, mechanic, jeweler, tech, locksmith, machinist or other skilled person moves on.
Seems there are many more older restaurants that are still open and doing well in Oklahoma City than in tulsa. Molly Murphys was still open in OKC last time I was there.
The National Chains just don't have that owner on site appeal that most of these did. Something about having a person that actually puts some love into preparing your food, versus a person that seems to hate their job and it watching the clock while making it. LOL
Perhaps it was the quality of the food as well. Today's chains seem to buy their food from the Sysco truck or other national supplier. I recall some of these got their meat from Tulsa Beef or Hodges or Bauer & Sons meat processing in Sand Springs, Fadlers, again a local thing.
Few More of my Favorites
Impressions 15th & Lewis Pasta & Prime Rib Sandwich
Der Winersnitzel
The orginal Ron's Hamburgers 15th & Harvard
The Italian Inn
Lea's Pizzareia 43rd & Peoria
Shakey's Pizza
My Pie Pizza (Used the Pi Sign)
Crystal's Pizza
Kings Hamburgers 31st & Sheridan
Shaw's Hamburgers 32nd & Yale
Steven's Hamburger's corner 28th & Yale
The Pines East Pine between Sheridan & Memorial
Mark & Tammy's Hamburgers
Golden Drumstick 11th & Yale
Middle Path Restaurant 11th & Yale
Dariy Queen East 11th
Chuck Wagon East 11th Giant Wheel Burgers
Partners East 11th Hot Apple Pie Alamode
Ma Bells 51st & Yale, Admiral & Sherican
Griff's Hamburgers
Burger Chef
Shoney's
Star Restaurant
Chefs Big Boy 11th downtown, Memorial
Hardens Chicken
Pancake Place
Pure Milk 41st & Hudson
Cafe at the Rose Bowl
Cafe at Yale Bowl
Ken's Pizza
Concession Stand at Tulsa Speedway
Bisquits Plus
Sambos
The Speakeasy Steak Places 91st & Lewis/Deleware and one out south east of Broken Arrow.
Ann's Bakery
Fadler's is still around. A number of places on your list are open and a lot of your list IS made up of dead or nearly dead national chains. A lot of the others were mom and pop places that like you said were never going to outlive the owners.
Impressions is still open, now downtown.
Der Winersnitzel is a chain that is nearly gone nationally
Ron's Hamburgers, you can't go two miles in town without hitting a Ron's, it was not but now is a regional chain.
Shakey's Pizza, national chain that went under
Dairy Queen East 11th, A national chain and there are a still few Dairy Queens around Tulsa (and not a good chain at all)
Burger Chef. Another national chain, now gone
Shoney's, National chain (and not a good chain at all, closed largely on health department violations if I recall)
Chefs Big Boy 11th downtown, Memorial, It was Kips, and also a chain and also largely gone nationally.
Hardens Chicken, Harden is still open I believe
Ken's Pizza, Ken's was part of Mazzio's, it was brand of the Tulsa based regional chain that was ended
Ann's Bakery, they had a fire and I think they are still planning on reopening
And, Molly Murphy's closed in OKC more than a decade ago. You really should get out more.
If there were some of these Good Old Fashioned restaurants still open in Tulsa, perhaps people living here would be in a much better mood. LOL
I never said that Ron's other stores were closed. It reads "The orginal Ron's Hamburgers 15th & Harvard". That was his first and original restaurant. None of the others are like that one, mainly becausse Ron is not cooking the burgers and chili. It remains closed.
Fadlers I mentioned as a supplier for some of the local restaurants on that list. Never stated they were closed, it was a point that many of those on the list purchased products from Fadlers and the other suppliers listed.
Ken's Pizza is no longer, brand, chain, local whatever it is gone.
Story on Ken Selby: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_20060221/ai_n16164510/pg_2
I stand corrected on Impressions, I knew Tom had the location downtown after he closed Pizza dot Tom. I have been there once. The original Impressions that Tom had at at 15th and Lewis serverd Pasta and other entres that Tom did not have at his downtown location when I was there. I mainly enjoyed his pasta.
Harden's name is on one hamburger place left near 4th and Sheridan. No longer Fried Chicken. I don't think the family owns it any longer, but I could be wrong. I believe Rick bought them out when he was on 15th street prior to moving on Sheridan. But again, I may be wrong, Don owned a franchise which was located on Utica near 6th street. He now owns the old Lot A Burger location on North Lewis north of Pine across and north from the Springdale Shopping Center. Next time I am at Harden's Hamburgers I will ask Rick.
There are also many restaurants I see in OKC that are still in operation for many years. Just used Molly's as an example, sorry if it is no longer there, I was told it was two years ago by a friend that lives there.
Kips Big Boy is correct, sorry I made a mistake, I was reaching for that name. My pencils, as do most all pencils, still have erasers on the ends of them as I am a human being. :)
Article about Kip's Big Boy
http://www.cosmicool.com/googie/ezskips.html
I do get out quite a bit, driving over 65,000 miles a year, traveling through a dozen or more states. :)
Peace
Nine of Cups, that one I miss a lot.
Sambo's is still around... they just call it Denny's now. Got in some PC trouble with the Sambo's name and the corporate logo that they used.
I miss Crystals Pizza at 21st & Sheridan
Mondos Italian
Applegates Landing, a great place to take a date,
Ken's Pizza. Yes I have seen the one in Sapulpa. It's down the road from TG&Y.
Taco Hut. There are some in Kansas but none here.
Griffs Burger Bar
Mr. Burger on Admiral
Shotgun Sams
Tastee Freeze on 11th. The gal owned that for about 40 years.
Irish Mike Clancys Pizza, 11th & Mingo. Never got there, but heard it was real good.
Some of my childhood favorites were all east-siders:
Shakey's Pizza
Shotgun Sam's
Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips
Pizza Quick
One I don't miss:
Duff's Smorgasbord (I used to have to clean up after all-you-can-eat crab legs night...I think my hands still smell like butter!)
According to an article Denny's purchased 800 Sambos locations.
Original Sambos is still open in California !
http://www.sambosrestaurant.com/
"From SantaBarbara.com" :
"On June 17, 1957 the first of Sambo's nationwide chain of family restaurants was opened in this very location, right across the street from the beach. The name derived from a combination of the original owners Sam Battistone and Newell Bonette who commonly were referred to as Sam and Bo. When they discovered the book "Little Black Sambo" written by Hellen Bartrum in 1899, they thought it was the perfect match. Today, this original Sambo's is the only one remaining in America.
Another interesting story on this topic is Pancakes and Prejudice".
http://www.alamedainfo.com/Ken_Prag_12_sambos_1919_Webster.jpg
(http://www.tommcmahon.net/images/sambosfull2.jpg)
Character in the illustration appears to be from India.
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Originally posted by AMP
I do get out quite a bit, driving over 65,000 miles a year, traveling through a dozen or more states. :)
Peace
You travel 65,000 miles a year and have not seen Riverparks in 25 years? That makes sense. If you haven't seen Riverpark for 25 years do you think there just might be a number of older Tulsa places that you have missed?
Here are some current places I could think of that have been in town for more than 25 years (some more than 70 years) that are not chains. I also looked in the phone book, but stopped at "F" as the list was getting too long.
Coney Island
The Petroleum Club
The Celebrity Club
Steakfinger House
Claude's
Webber's
Mary's Italian
The Polo Grill
Fuji Sushi
Queenie's
Jim's Never on Sunday
Billy's on the Square
Wilson's BBQ
Café Ole
Fellini's
Jamil's
Cardigans
Chicken Coop
Freddie's
Baxter's Interurban
The Atlas Grill
Casa Loredo
Chimi's
Bodean's
The Spudder
Diamond Jack's
Elmer's
Avalon
Atlantic Sea Grill
Brothers Houligan
Most of my old favorites have already been listed:
Ma Bell's
My Pie
Smokehouse Blues (81st and Harvard)
Kings (31st and Sheridan - great burgers!)
The Pagoda
Zuider Zee (I loved the windmill)
Charlie Mitchell's
Anyone remember Melody's at 71st and Memorial (around 1980-1981)? It was later Chi-Chi's, and the building is now torn down. It sat east of the old Target store. Melody's had great Sunday Brunches.
I completely forgot about Der Winersnitzel at 31st and Mingo and the A&W Root Beer stand around the corner.
And I miss running over to the Sub Station for a steak and onion sub after hours playing Galaga at Quarter Horse or wasting time walking around Luboyle's(?)Sporting Goods.
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Originally posted by T-Town Now
Most of my old favorites have already been listed:
Ma Bell's
My Pie
Smokehouse Blues (81st and Harvard)
Kings (31st and Sheridan - great burgers!)
The Pagoda
Zuider Zee (I loved the windmill)
Charlie Mitchell's
Anyone remember Melody's at 71st and Memorial (around 1980-1981)? It was later Chi-Chi's, and the building is now torn down. It sat east of the old Target store. Melody's had great Sunday Brunches.
I believe Melody's was on the north side of the center and Chi Chi's was purpose-built for Chi-Chi's. Could be wrong, I've had more than one or two margaritas since then.
Steamroller Blues & BBQ never worked because the food sucked. Same owner as the Blue Rose. Tom should have stuck with the Blue Rose concept and ploughed his profits back into updating that place instead of getting strung out on a concept that wasn't what he did best. His personal net out of Blue Rose was reputed to be $10K per month. The last couple of years, the Blue Rose was starting to get a little dumpy. I wouldn't even use the restroom there anymore. He had to dump so much time and money into the two Steamroller locations that he neglected his best asset.
Hemi's Pizza is another place I miss. Half-baked stoners make the best pizza.
Cajun Boiling Pot at 16th & Memorial was great. Sorry to see that go.
CBP is gone? When did that happen? I heard there were some issues with the health dept. not thinking that serving crawfish on newspaper with wooden mallets was too kosher. Well, not that mudbugs are "kosher" in the first place, but you get my drift.
Hey AMP- When did Mark & Tammie's close? Wasn't Mark one of Hank's long-time employees when it was still Hank's?
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Originally posted by T-Town Now
Most of my old favorites have already been listed:
Ma Bell's
My Pie
Smokehouse Blues (81st and Harvard)
Kings (31st and Sheridan - great burgers!)
The Pagoda
Zuider Zee (I loved the windmill)
Charlie Mitchell's
Anyone remember Melody's at 71st and Memorial (around 1980-1981)? It was later Chi-Chi's, and the building is now torn down. It sat east of the old Target store. Melody's had great Sunday Brunches.
I believe Melody's was on the north side of the center and Chi Chi's was purpose-built for Chi-Chi's. Could be wrong, I've had more than one or two margaritas since then.
Steamroller Blues & BBQ never worked because the food sucked. Same owner as the Blue Rose. Tom should have stuck with the Blue Rose concept and ploughed his profits back into updating that place instead of getting strung out on a concept that wasn't what he did best. His personal net out of Blue Rose was reputed to be $10K per month. The last couple of years, the Blue Rose was starting to get a little dumpy. I wouldn't even use the restroom there anymore. He had to dump so much time and money into the two Steamroller locations that he neglected his best asset.
Hemi's Pizza is another place I miss. Half-baked stoners make the best pizza.
So that would put Melody's where the KFC and oil change place are now? I honestly don't remember, but I do remember it was a fun place to go.
I thought Streamroller's BBQ was great. At least it was every time I ate there. The raspberry and blueberry BBQ sauces were really, really good. I had friends in from out of town and they loved it as well. They still ask if the place ever reopened in another location.
A sports bar is going in to that location now. (The old Embers.)
Embers is closed now too?
I'm relying on memories from 20++ years ago. The site I'm thinking of would have fronted 71st St. not where the KFC is. There was a place, I think called Magnolia cafe there after Melody's. Might have or still is an oriental place since then. I don't get out to that area very often anymore.
Mark & Tammy's is now Freddies's #1, Fred Hollis has two one there at 9th and Lewis and the other one is on east 11th Street by Mingo. The 11th Street location serves thick Char Burgers in addition to the thin onion fried in grease burger style. I like both versions.
Mark and Tammy were in the real estate business with several rent homes last time I saw Mark at the burger joint.
After it was Hank's another owner had it, he built a building near 4th and Lewis and called his other place Margie's I believe that was his wife's name. Think his name was Walt. I recall he was robbed and then after that he always was armed with a pistol he wore on his belt.
Two girls, one was Toni Beam can't remember the others name opened when Margie's closed. Tony's brother Joe Beam owns Will Rogers Raceway in Claremore, Oklahoma. Bill Cox was a regular in there. The other girl was the chef at could of been Wild Oat or some other place like that after leaving that restaurant.
Anyway, they both had a new age type restaurant where Margie's once was that served whole grain breads, and had a really great menu for lunch and dinner. They made some really good red beans and rice. That building is no longer there, it was replaced by the new home division along Lewis.
Toni Beam raced against Jeff Gordon when they were both kids in quarter midgets. I believe she defeated him in a race or two as the story goes, have to ask her mom that runs the beer shack at Will Rogers about the outcomes of those races. :)
I loved Shakey's growing up. My step dad used to play Dixie Land jazz once a week. I used to love watching them make the pizzas, too. "Ace of Spades your pizza is ready."
My Pie -- hamburger pizza was to die for.
The original Webber's building when you could still get car service and they hung the metal tray from your window and the kids all got mini mugs of root beer.
I miss Arthur Treachers all the time. Great fish and chips.
A big treat for us was going to Kip's Big Boy after church.
The Harvard Club
Home Run Pizza Pine & Harvard
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Der Winersnitzel had anothther location at 21st and Harvard sat east of where Arby's is now. My favorite was on Brookside.
Still have them in other places:
http://www.wienerschnitzel.com/about.php
Hemi's Pizza Near TU on East 11th - Cheese Chooch yummy!
Jamil's will be closing in it's current location due to I-44 construction. Rumor is they may re-open at the Eddy's location on 31st street.
Freckles is opening a new Frozen Custard location across from Honda of Tulsa on the NE corner of 21st and Yale. Their banner read something like www.frecklesbythefair.com.
http://www.frecklesfrozencustard.com/locations.asp
(http://www.frecklesfrozencustard.com/images/jenks.jpg)
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by AMP
I do get out quite a bit, driving over 65,000 miles a year, traveling through a dozen or more states. :)
Peace
You travel 65,000 miles a year and have not seen Riverparks in 25 years? That makes sense. If you haven't seen Riverpark for 25 years do you think there just might be a number of older Tulsa places that you have missed?
Here are some current places I could think of that have been in town for more than 25 years (some more than 70 years) that are not chains. I also looked in the phone book, but stopped at "F" as the list was getting too long.
Coney Island
The Petroleum Club
The Celebrity Club
Steakfinger House
Claude's
Webber's
Mary's Italian
The Polo Grill
Fuji Sushi
Queenie's
Jim's Never on Sunday
Billy's on the Square
Wilson's BBQ
Café Ole
Fellini's
Jamil's
Cardigans
Chicken Coop
Freddie's
Baxter's Interurban
The Atlas Grill
Casa Loredo
Chimi's
Bodean's
The Spudder
Diamond Jack's
Elmer's
Avalon
Atlantic Sea Grill
Brothers Houligan
Great idea for another Tread
Best Of - Tulsa Restaurants over 20 years old
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Originally posted by AMP
Mark & Tammy's is now Freddies's #1, Fred Hollis has two one there at 9th and Lewis and the other one is on east 11th Street by Mingo. The 11th Street location serves thick Char Burgers in addition to the thin onion fried in grease burger style. I like both versions.
They just closed the 11th street location.
Just not enough business, I guess.
Freddies on east 11th is only closed until October 10th because he works his park and restaurant in Sturgis during this time. He also works a Fair up north around this time of the year as I recall.
They will also be at the Tulsa State Fair with all their regular food vendor booths including the roasted corn, on the east end of the IPE buiding.
Ikes Chili on Admiral closes for a short time during the hot august month for vacation also, believe they reopen Sept 8th.
Shakeys is still alive with 63 stores in the US and just over 300 in Aisa.
http://www.shakeys.com/ (//%22http://%22)
We actually have Tastee Freez together with wienerschnitzel's
http://www.tastee-freez.com/locations.php (//%22http://%22)
Rosies Rib Joint was one of my favorites, loved the grand cut of prime rib, for lunch it was Antones/Cedars Imports.
"Back in 1961, 23-year-old fast-food entrepreneur John Galardi saw an opportunity and started Wienerschnitzel with the opening of a single hot dog stand. Since that time, we have taken our love for all-things-hot-dog and opened over 340 stores in ten states, and even Guam, to become The World's Largest Hot Dog Chain and one of the largest privately owned fast-food restaurant chains in the nation."
From Der Wienerschnitzel's web site...
But none here, bummer huh?
I had a brother who worked for Dick Richardson of Dickies Fish N Chips for years. He was a floating manager and opened all of the store in Tulsa and Stillwater. The only one he did not open was when they moved the location from Admiral and Sheridan to the intersection of Adrmiral and 73rd E. Avenue, I think it was still an Egg Roll Express the last time I was in Tulsa. I still have a couple of ashtrays from the one of the stores.
HAMBURGER HEAVEN 71ST AND LEWIS
Here are a few ads from the 1973 season of Tulsa Speedway Race Programs.
You can click on them to zoom in.
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BIG MIKES HAMBURGERS
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MR. STEAK ACROSS FOR THE RACETRACK AT THE FAIRGROUNDS
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SHOTGUN SAMS - DINNER FOLLOWING THE RACES AT TULSA SPEEDWAY EVERY SATURDAY NIGHT DURING RACE SEASON.
My Pi Pizza, owned by David Lieberman and his brother, may of been Phillip Lieberman.
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Originally posted by AMP
Mark & Tammy's is now Freddies's #1, Fred Hollis has two one there at 9th and Lewis and the other one is on east 11th Street by Mingo. The 11th Street location serves thick Char Burgers in addition to the thin onion fried in grease burger style. I like both versions.
Mark and Tammy were in the real estate business with several rent homes last time I saw Mark at the burger joint.
After it was Hank's another owner had it, he built a building near 4th and Lewis and called his other place Margie's I believe that was his wife's name. Think his name was Walt. I recall he was robbed and then after that he always was armed with a pistol he wore on his belt.
Two girls, one was Tony Beam can't remember the others name opened when Margie's closed. Tony's parents Joe and Tammy Beam own Will Rogers Raceway in Claremore, Oklahoma. Bill Cox was a regular in there. The other girl was the chef at could of been Wild Oat or some other place like that after leaving that restaurant.
Anyway, they both had a new age type restaurant where Margie's once was that served whole grain breads, and had a really great menu for lunch and dinner. They made some really good red beans and rice. That building is no longer there, it was replaced by the new home division along Lewis.
Tony Beam raced against Jeff Gordon when they were both kids in quarter midgets. I believe she defeated him in a race or two as the story goes, have to ask her grandma that runs the beer shack at Will Rogers about the outcomes of those races. :)
Actually Toni is Joe's sister. She's even older than me so I don't think it was her that raced against Jeff. I remember when she opened that place.
I've raced against Tony Stewart and Ken Schrader though it still doesn't get any beers bought for me though.
I liked a place near Admiral and Sheridan called Don's Restaurant-is that still there?
Last time I drove past Skate World at 21st and Garnett it was something totally different.
Tulsa sure has changed since these days.
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The late Gene Daniels at the wheel.
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From Tulsa TV Memories
Check out the prices ....
MENU BISHOPS RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN TULSA
Had the Cow on the Sign.
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BISHOPS DRIVE-IN
"Bishop's Drive-In on the southwest corner of 10th and Boston in 1937. Gas rationing during WW II led to the closing of the drive-in. The building then became the Downtown Station Depot, transporting workers to aviation manufacturing plants (Spartan, Douglas). The building later became Capps Restaurant in the 1960s."
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"Night view of 6th and Main. Looking northeast from atop Public Service Building toward the southwest corner of 6th and Main. Store signs include: Jenkins Music, Vandever's, Boswell's Jewelry, Skaggs, Brown-Dunkin, Clarkes, Peacock Jewelers, Bishop's, and the Mayo Hotel."
Don's burned down, became Ted & Carol's or something like that, I believe. Last time I was there it was called The Sheridan Cafe.
They serve specials, burgers, breakfast.
Anyone remember the name of the restaurant at was on the SE corner of 15th and Yale?
Menu from Bishop's Sandwich Shop Downtown Tulsa
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Borden's Cafeterias
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"Borden's Restaurant, on the northeast corner of 3rd & Boston. The restaurant was located in the Daniel Building."
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Bordens Cafeteria in Southland at 41st and Yale
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Originally posted by AMP
Anyone remember the name of the restaurant at was on the SE corner of 15th and Yale?
Duffy's?
I tnink Duffy's is at 15th and Lewis
This one was on the se corner of
15th & Yale, across from Driller Stadium. Appears there is some kind of medical office there now. Used to have to stand in line they serverd breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Another good one that was long in Tulsa was
McClullums sp, next to Oklahoma Fixture on 11th Street West of Sheridan.
What was the name of the restaurant in that unusual building just south of 15th on the east side of Sheridan? It is a vaccum cleaner place now I believe. Sits out in front of the Ron's Hamburger location near there, only to the North of it.
Wasn't Crystal's Pizza originaly a Bordens Cafeteria?
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Originally posted by AMP
I tnink Duffy's is at 15th and Lewis
This one was on the se corner of
15th & Yale, across from Driller Statium.
Impressions was at 15th & Lewis. Albertson's got the city to condemn it under Eminent Domain so they could build the store they just recently abandoned (so much for long-term 'vision').
SE corner of 15th & Yale is Lowes, before that it was a leather supply shop, doctor's office, storage and something else I cant recall.
Diffy's is 11th and Yale.
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Originally posted by dbacks fan
Wasn't Crystal's Pizza originaly a Bordens Cafeteria?
Yes, there were several around Tulsa. One was upstairs at Admiral and Sheridan and had rooftop parking on that building. It is now a Bingo Parlor.
Another lost restaurant
Top Dog
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Anyone remember the sandwich place on Memorial around I belive at 18th street. Unusual shaped building that sits on the east side of Memorial, up on a hill. Think they had a Roast Beef Sandwich.
Although a private club, the Candlewood Club was one of the best for large group dinners. Plus the times we spent out at the pool when I was in Jr. High were some very fun times.
That place and earlier Jack and Eleanor Sigg's Cabana Club behind where the Green Onion is now. The front lawn was wooded and members had picnics there by the large and I mean high Swings. Those were some awesome swings.
Candlewood club could serve up 300 steaks at the same time to everyone and they were juicy and perfectly cooked. They seared them first, then cooked / held them in large ovens prior to serving.
Another Club was the Elks Lodge that was in the Dome Building on Harvard. They too had a great kitchen for serving large groups. Elks club is still there, but not in that building that looked like the Rose Bowl building.
Harvard club on Harvard near the BA Expressway was another great pool and dinner club. They made some awesome cheeseburgers and fries we enjoyed at pool side.
Cabana Club was one of my favorites as it had an underground room with a window where you could see inside the pool, an elevated 18 foot high Sun Bathing level that made shade underneath. Concrete Shuffleboard with large pucks and wooden cues. Croquet played on the close cut lawns. They served Ice Cream Sundaes in a cup with a wooden spoon that for some reason were some of the best I ever tasted.
Jack and Eleanor were a very fun couple, and laughter was constant at their club. They also held some wild parties at their home behind the clubhouse.
All those places are lost Tulsa treasures.
I don't think Crystals Pizza was a Bordens. I don't remember one being at 21st & Sheridan. My sister worked at the one at Sheridan Village that is now a bingo parlor.
I remeber the place at 15th & Yale. It was next to a wrought iron fab shop. My brother worked just around the corner from there and would go eat there. It was really small, but I don't remember the name. I'll ask him next time I talk to him. I read a write-up in the paper about a long time ago. It had been there quite a while.
Does anyone remember Harmons restaurant on Admiral right by the bank, around Lakewood? I hated to see that one go.
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Anyone remember the sandwich place on Memorial around I belive at 18th street. Unusual shaped building that sits on the east side of Memorial, up on a hill. Think they had a Roast Beef Sandwich.
I remember that place, it used to be called Frank'n steins. I worked there when it was the Waffle Inn. I worked there in 10th grade. The owner didn't like french fries so if you ordered a burger you go mashed potatoes. I was a dishwasher there and one night I was checking out the different glasses we used and found out that the large and small glasses held the same amount. What a rip-off.
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What was the name of the restaurant in that unusual building just south of 15th on the east side of Sheridan? It is a vaccum cleaner place now I believe. Sits out in front of the Ron's Hamburger location near there, only to the North of it.
If it's the place I'm thinking about, it's now Santa Fe mexican restaurant. It used to be a Kens Pizza before they built the building on the corner of 15th & Sheridan that is now a Mazzios.
Moving down Sheridan......
There used to be a Sirloin Stockade near the north end of the white building where the Olde Time Cinema used to be. I think it's an alternator shop now. Boots Drive In used to be where where Braums now is. The strip club across the street used to be a Rex (or Rax) Chicken. The Western Diner used to be Shotgun Sams Pizza, a popular place to go after the races on Saturday night. The Burger King is sitting where a Sambo's used to be. They did everyone a favor shutting that place down. The service and food were terrible. Office Depot used to be a Safeway.
Of course, Casa Bonita is where Shoppers Fair was. I remember when Casa Bonita opened. The all-you-can-eat dinner was $1.89. Crystals opened down the mall on the south end next to where Harbour Freight is.
The Sleepy Hollow.....
Just remembered The Shadow Mountain Steakhouse, 61st and Sheridan. And The Coutry Kettle in a little strip mall like place just south of 36th and Harvard. Geesh where did that memory come from?
Cattle Rustlers Steakhouse was at 61st & Sheridan. All you could eat steak...yum!
How bout:
The Rickshaw, next to the Brook Theater
The Italian Inn
Argentine Steak House
The Bagelry (best bagels ever!)
Ran into one of the investors in Kal's Chophouse last night. It joined the ranks of "no longer in Tulsa" on Monday.
The cafeterial that eventually became Crystals Pizza was indeed a Bordens. The decor was New Orleans style, with fountain and a drop ceiling with small holes so it looked as if you were dining outdoors under the stars.
We had running argument at our house between cafeterias, which one to go to, Bordens or Picadilly at Southroads.
Personally I miss Billie the "Schalad Lady" at Furrs in Utica Square.
Also on my list:
The original Martins BBQ on N Sheridan with all the old phones.
Dons on N Sheridan.
Across the Street (Forerunner to Ma Bells)
Kings Food Host (also had telephones) Cheese Frenchee.
Butterfield Overland Express in Fontana.
The orginal Avalon.
Phoenecia at 51st and Harvard.
Utica 21 Club
I forget the name of the club that was atop the University Club Tower. (University Club?)
Library (If anyone calls, tell them Im at the Library).
Garfields......
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Originally posted by Breadburner
Garfields......
This Garfield?
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Or this one:
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The Restaurant....heh....
Here's another Black Eyed Pea....
After you leave Black Eyed Pea, head on over to Tippin's for Pie.
Eggbert's
Ah, sweet Billie at Furr's in Utica Square ....
She always said this after placing a giant scoop of salad dressing on a tossed salad,
"That'l do it"
Where the strip club is on Sheridan, that was I belive the Montana Roast Beef Sandwich place when it was first built.
Garfield's is another Oklaoma owned chain run by Vince Orza the founder. I have seen his presentation he once gave on the benefits of locating business in the Oklaoma.
They are owned by Eateries, Inc who also own the Pepperoni Grill and Garcia's chains among others.
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Garfields is another restaurant that is still open in Oklahoma City and the owner Eateries, Inc. operates full-service restaurant chains in 26 states, but none left open in Tulsa. Wonder why that is?
http://www.garfields.net/map/oklahoma.htm
http://www.garfields.net/
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Eateries-Inc-Company-History.html
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Originally posted by AMP
Garfield's is another Oklaoma owned chain run by Vince Orza the founder. I have seen his presentation he once gave on the benefits of locating business in the Oklaoma.
They are owned by Eateries, Inc who also own the Pepperoni Grill and Garcia's chains among others.
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Garfields is another restaurant that is still open in Oklahoma City and the owner Eateries, Inc. operates full-service restaurant chains in 26 states, but none left open in Tulsa. Wonder why that is?
http://www.garfields.net/map/oklahoma.htm
http://www.garfields.net/
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Eateries-Inc-Company-History.html
I used to eat at what locals called the original Black-Eyed Pea in Dallas on Cedar Springs & Oaklawn. I believe that was Gene and Phil's first restaurant.
Black-eyed Pea is still going strong in Texas, as are most businesses there. They also have locations in Colorado.
Wonder whey they are no longer in Tulsa, or Oklahoma?
http://www.theblackeyedpea.com/
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Originally posted by AMP
I used to eat at what locals called the original Black-Eyed Pea in Dallas on Cedar Springs & Oaklawn. I believe that was Gene and Phil's first restaurant.
Black-eyed Pea is still going strong in Texas, as are most businesses there. They also have locations in Colorado.
Wonder whey they are no longer in Tulsa, or Oklahoma?
http://www.theblackeyedpea.com/
Seems to me all the BEP's in Tulsa became Delta Cafe. Musta been a falling out between the franchisor and franchisee.
The Potato Patch.....
Salad Alley
"Hello! How ahh yahh!"
Po Folks.....
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Originally posted by Wingnut
I don't think Crystals Pizza was a Bordens. I don't remember one being at 21st & Sheridan. My sister worked at the one at Sheridan Village that is now a bingo parlor.
I've got a postcard of it as a Borden's. Borden's had some themed cafeterias around town. The one at 21st and Sheridan had a New Orleans French Quarter decor, while the one at 51st & Peoria (in the Brook Plaza) had a western theme. It was later home to Po Folks (which had a very similar menu and decor to that of Cracker Barrel).
Regarding Black-Eyed Pea, Delta Cafe (Dixie Cafe in Arkansas and Tennessee) is run by former Black-Eyed Pea franchisees. In Texas, there's a chain called Good Eats Grill, founded by BEP founder Gene Street in 1986. Street sold off BEP to a conglomerate.
In looking some of this up, I found a funny first-person account by Street about cooking chicken-fried monkey in Vietnam (//%22http://www.dmagazine.com/ME2/Sites/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=MultiPublishing&mod=PublishingTitles&mid=7155F7796F354F21B1183937D847D6DF&tier=4&id=F1D8D29CBB9B48D0982497E427C5C1AC&SiteID=1478A3FDE5114C65B69049CD8F0ABB84%22).
Gene Street? They don't own Burger Street as well do they? I believe it's headquartered in Dallas.
I've said it before, I'll say it again...VILLA VENICE.....several of their menu items to this day have no competition.
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Originally posted by AMP
Nine of Cups, that one I miss a lot.
While the food was so so, there are some unbelievable memories from there...if I could only remember my name.
I will reiterate VILLA VENICE, which moved from 11th and Louisville to 65th and Lewis to 51st and Harvard, was the best Italian Tulsa has EVAH seen!!!!!!!
Gene's BBQ Pit......
These food threads proove that most people in this area love to eat, and have a variety of foods. Seems that restaurants go through cycles in Tulsa. There was the Cafe era, then the Cafeteria era, then the Hamburger era, Fried Chicken era, Pizza era, Buffet era, Mexican era. I may have those out of order and may of missed a few, but you get the picture.
Put them in order and or add some I may of missed if you like.
What era are we in now?
The Chain Era.....
The fat era.
Aox, when was Villa Venice around? I've lived here 41 years and never heard of it.
I remember Joe Vigg's at 65th & Lewis. What a blowhard- his food sucked.
George's Grill
Home of the Cuban Sandwich
One building east from the corner of Pine and Yale. His wife made the best home style breakfast. George told some great stories.
Tony Roma's...
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Originally posted by Breadburner
Tony Roma's...
Another restaurant that has numerous locations, more than 230 restaurants in 27 countries, but none left in Tulsa or Oklahoma.
Wonder why that is?
http://www.tonyromas.com/files/locations.asp
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Originally posted by Wingnut
I don't think Crystals Pizza was a Bordens. I don't remember one being at 21st & Sheridan. My sister worked at the one at Sheridan Village that is now a bingo parlor.
I remeber the place at 15th & Yale. It was next to a wrought iron fab shop. My brother worked just around the corner from there and would go eat there. It was really small, but I don't remember the name. I'll ask him next time I talk to him. I read a write-up in the paper about a long time ago. It had been there quite a while.
Does anyone remember Harmons restaurant on Admiral right by the bank, around Lakewood? I hated to see that one go.
QuoteAnyone remember the sandwich place on Memorial around I belive at 18th street. Unusual shaped building that sits on the east side of Memorial, up on a hill. Think they had a Roast Beef Sandwich.
I remember that place, it used to be called Frank'n steins. I worked there when it was the Waffle Inn. I worked there in 10th grade. The owner didn't like french fries so if you ordered a burger you go mashed potatoes. I was a dishwasher there and one night I was checking out the different glasses we used and found out that the large and small glasses held the same amount. What a rip-off.
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I have a couple of the Frank'N Stein glass mugs with Frankenstein holding a hot dog sub-captioned, "Terribly Tasty". I think one of my Aunts had a business interest in the restaurant. If I remember right they shut down because of the threat of a law suit over using the Frankenstein likeness without permission.
Anyone remember El Charrito at 18th & Boston? Good Mexican in a hacienda styled stucco building. Not as old as it looked. I remember telling the manager one night how much I enjoyed the food and hoped they didn't close soon. He looked terrified. "You think we're closing?" Less than a month later the place closed as Mapco had bought it for office space, then Spirit Bank flattened it for parking. That's the Tulsa spirit.
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Originally posted by Conan71
The fat era.
Aox, when was Villa Venice around? I've lived here 41 years and never heard of it.
I remember Joe Vigg's at 65th & Lewis. What a blowhard- his food sucked.
Villa Venice was here from the mid 50's until 1979.
I don't remember it being fancy... but back in the day, I was a regular at The Hungry Pellican over by TU...
Food was good... Indian Fry Bread was great.
Was bummed when it closed and was replaced by a let's-pretend-we've-been-here-since-the-50s-diner.... aka, the Metro Diner.
Elmo's Grill
Where were the Villa Venice and Elmo's Grill located ?
Street addresses, or main cross streets.
What was the name of that place that had the wonderfull chicken fried steaks made on the flat grill. Man used oil and cooked them like Waffle House cooks Hash Browns. It was near 52nd and Peoria on the east side. Was that Elmo's Grill.
The A Frame building where Griff's Burgers was located is still standing. It is between two other automotive repair businesses on 21st near the top of the hill heading west from Sheridan, on the north side facing south.
You can still see the counter, serving window through the font glass window, and the glass entry doors.
Griff's was located near the Hilltop Slot Car Track, which was west of his location in the shopping center on the same side of 21st Street.
I still remember his 19 cent hamburgers.
Borden's Cafeteria at the Brook Shooping Center near 51st and Peoria. This is the location that later became Po Folks.
Notice the streets have no bumps, holes or patches. Camelot Inn was in it's glory days perhaps.
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WOW! I stumbled on a photo of Griff's Hamburgers
GRIFFS HAMBURGERS
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I believe this is the Borden's Cafeteria location near 21st and Sheridan where Crystal's Pizza occupied after Borden's closed.
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CROSS ROADS DRIVE-IN
Cross Roads Drive-In Restaurant at 31st and Sheridan on May 5, 1959
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PURE MILK 41ST & HUDSON TULSA OKLAHOMA
CONES WERE A NICKLE A PIECE CIRCA 1962
Family Style Restaurants
Served the food family style, plate of chicken, mashed potatoes, real homemade gravy.
Scrumptious comfort food.
SLEEPY HOLLOW on South Lewis
SUTPHEN'S One at 41st and Hudson, later
Sutphen's Bar B Que our east in the industrial park off of Garnett & Pine.
Sussy's Pizza. In high school, every Thursday night I would go visit my friend who worked at the Admiral/Pittsburgh location and get a large Shrimp & Cheese pizza and eat the whole thing.
Kip's Big Boy was pretty larrapin' too. 11th & Quaker.
Mr. Neils Subs & Sandwhiches.....
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Originally posted by waterboy
Sussy's Pizza. In high school, every Thursday night I would go visit my friend who worked at the Admiral/Pittsburgh location and get a large Shrimp & Cheese pizza and eat the whole thing.
Kip's Big Boy was pretty larrapin' too. 11th & Quaker.
There was also a Kips at 26th and Harvard....Which is now Village Inn....Formerly Helmuts Alpine Kitchen.....
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Originally posted by AMP
Family Style Restaurants
Served the food family style, plate of chicken, mashed potatoes, real homemade gravy.
Scrumptious comfort food.
SLEEPY HOLLOW on South Lewis
SUTPHEN'S One at 41st and Hudson, later
Sutphen's Bar B Que our east in the industrial park off of Garnett & Pine.
Sutphen's Bar B Que existed on Main in Jenks until about a year ago when it was bought out by Big Daddy's
SOL'S RANCHER Steak House at 33rd and Harvard
Circa 1960
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Ike's Chili 31st and Harvard
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Ike's is still open on East Admiral west of Sheridan. Closed for the summer re-opens Sept 10th, 2007.
Pancake Place 11th and Utica
Building with the white roof with the antenna looking point on it on the right upper corner. You can almost make out that giant Pancake Place sign with the syrup pouring on the pancakes, in front.
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Originally posted by AMP
I used to eat at what locals called the original Black-Eyed Pea in Dallas on Cedar Springs & Oaklawn. I believe that was Gene and Phil's first restaurant.
Black-eyed Pea is still going strong in Texas, as are most businesses there. They also have locations in Colorado.
Wonder whey they are no longer in Tulsa, or Oklahoma?
http://www.theblackeyedpea.com/
They didn't close. They were all converted to the Delta Cafe brand, which are known as Dixie Cafe outside of Oklahoma. I guess the two are related.
COPPER KETTLE 11TH & MAIN TULSA
COPPER KETTLE 11TH & MAIN TULSA
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Originally posted by AMP
Garfield's is another Oklaoma owned chain run by Vince Orza the founder. I have seen his presentation he once gave on the benefits of locating business in the Oklaoma.
They are owned by Eateries, Inc who also own the Pepperoni Grill and Garcia's chains among others.
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Garfields is another restaurant that is still open in Oklahoma City and the owner Eateries, Inc. operates full-service restaurant chains in 26 states, but none left open in Tulsa. Wonder why that is?
http://www.garfields.net/map/oklahoma.htm
http://www.garfields.net/
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Eateries-Inc-Company-History.html
Well, Garfield's was terrible. That might be one reason.
AMP, I heard on NPR that Tulsa has more restaurants per capita than any other city in the nation, and Oklahoma City is either first or second for fast food places per capita. There is a market for restaurant, you make it sound like there are no places to eat out.
Ashby's Cafe Near 11th and Hudson. Close to where McCloums was.
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The orginal Ron's Hamburgers & Chili at 15th and Lewis building.
Is that a hamburger restaurant in that building in this photo?
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Originally posted by AMP
The orginal Ron's Hamburgers & Chili at 15th and Lewis building.
There was a VANS Hamburgers here prior to Ron's. Gota love old photos.
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Originally posted by swake
quote:
Originally posted by AMP
Garfield's is another Oklaoma owned chain run by Vince Orza the founder. I have seen his presentation he once gave on the benefits of locating business in the Oklaoma.
They are owned by Eateries, Inc who also own the Pepperoni Grill and Garcia's chains among others.
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Garfields is another restaurant that is still open in Oklahoma City and the owner Eateries, Inc. operates full-service restaurant chains in 26 states, but none left open in Tulsa. Wonder why that is?
http://www.garfields.net/map/oklahoma.htm
http://www.garfields.net/
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Eateries-Inc-Company-History.html
Well, Garfield's was terrible. That might be one reason.
AMP, I heard on NPR that Tulsa has more restaurants per capita than any other city in the nation, and Oklahoma City is either first or second for fast food places per capita. There is a market for restaurant, you make it sound like there are no places to eat out.
Here are some reports on the Most Restaurants in American per capita. Of course as with most things, not too many are in concert with the other's reports.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=most+restaurants+per+capita
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_restaurants_per_capita_in_the_United_States
Not attempting to point out anything, that is not the purpose of this thread.
I have place phone calls and sent emails to four franchise companies that have operated restaurants that have since closed here, but are operating in different states. Curious of the reasons they may give to why they left this market.
If one wants to see how many restaurants there are in Tulsa, simply turn to the yellow pages in one of the many Yellow Pages in the assorted phone directories avaiable in Tulsa.
Quantity and Quality are two completly different things however.
We are simply remembering quality restaurants that most of us enjoyed at one time or another. Granted there were fewer of them, but they had some very tasty treats and some good wholesome food.
One could start a thread of "People's favorite reataurants Now and Then" I suppose to judge if what is being offered today is comprable with what we had in the past. By the numbers on this thread I would submit most middle age native Tulsan's and folks that have lived here for a decent amount of time miss some of the long time restaurants we enjoyed back in the day.
This gives posters a sounding board to talk about those times. I totally enjoyed the story about the two glasses at Frankenstein's Roast Beef Sandwhch restaurant of the small and large beverage glasses. They held the same amount as told by the person that was the dishwasher at one time. I could picture him pouring the dishwater out of one glass into the other to see just how much more pop you got if you bought a large. And shazam it was the same! I doubt if the owners ever knew that. It was a great story.
Oh, here is another.
THE HOP HAMBURGERS 4th & SHERIDAN
Elmos was the place on the SE corner of 15th and Yale. We had a running Sat morning tradeoff between Elmos and Callahans at 32nd and Harvard (now Phills).
Ah ha, I believe Elmo's was next to the knife sharpening place also. I remember eating in there quite often.
Pat Callahan, who I attended school with, passed away in 1998. His parents owned and operated Callahan's Restaurant at 32nd and Harvard for years. They baked some wonderful pies.
Pat became a golf pro and the access road to the entrance of the Chickasaw Pointe Golf Course is named Callahan Lane in his memory.
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This gives posters a sounding board to talk about those times. I totally enjoyed the story about the two glasses at Frankenstein's Roast Beef Sandwhch restaurant of the small and large beverage glasses. They held the same amount as told by the person that was the dishwasher at one time. I could picture him pouring the dishwater out of one glass into the other to see just how much more pop you got if you bought a large. And shazam it was the same! I doubt if the owners ever knew that. It was a great story.
Ha! Were you watching me?? That's exactly what I did. The small was short and fat and the large was tall and skinny. Whether the owners knew or not I don't know, but I would tend to think they did.
You were absolutly correct about Crystals Pizza being a Bordens. That was a bit before my time so I didn't know about Bordens being there. Thanks for the correction and history lesson.
And thank you for all the great pictures! I love looking at stuff like that.
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Ashby's Cafe Near 11th and Hudson. Close to where McCloums was.
I believe that building is still there. Mcculloms was across the street and a bit east on Ashbys. It's now a car lot office
Wasn't there a Griffs on Admiral near Pittsburg? It seems like I went there a time or two in high school.
I remember the Mcdonalds on 11th (that has now closed and moved to 13th & Harvard) We would go there in the evenings and you would walk in the front thru some big sliding doors that would be open and order at the stainless steel counter with bugs flying all over the place. I don't think that would go over very well today. It had the arches on the sides that were lit up yellow. I used to eat there alot in high school also, only it was an updated store.
Looks like I'm going to have to put the top down and tour around town looking at the old spots to see what else I remember about what used to be good in Tulsa.....
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The orginal Ron's Hamburgers & Chili at 15th and Lewis building.
Is that a hamburger restaurant in that building in this photo?
Click on the photo to zoom in and read the sign!
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Of course Pennington's was well known, especially by Central students who simply called it 'tons. But another favorite of ours was Don's Playboy Burgers where Quik Trip now sits at 36th & Peoria. Since we only had 30min. for lunch, we would run to our cars parked downtown and haul donkey down Peoria to Don's, then eat a burger on the way back in the car.
I think the Rogers HS equivalent was Boots but don't remember where it was exactly.
Great pics btw. Just remembered Coop's Whizburger at 4th street and Lewis avenue. Replaced a Pure Milk outlet.
I LOVE the old photos! Some of these are before my time, but some bring back fond memories.
<sigh>
Nick
36th and Peoria not sure which intersection the Don's Playboy Burgers sat on.
Gas was up to 29 cents per gallon.
We didn't need curbs then, and to avoid crashing sometimes you had to "ditch it" which ment run off into the drainage ditch that often ran next to the street. LOL
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This is the Intesection of 71st and Memorial around 1967. There weren't too many restaurants there yet, but many to come. I bought gasoline at those stations a lot when I was a teenager.
Don's was on the South West corner of 36th & Peoria. We also loved Shakeys Pizza just a bit farther down across from channel 2 studios. They ran a continuous loop of Three Stooges shorts. Best Hardward is there now.
I remember when DX had to gold plate the gasoline pump handles and offer Color TV in their lobby to get people to travel as far as...51st & Yale to buy gas. And they did.
The only place I miss that hasn't been mentioned yet is Bundy's Hamburgers. Bundy's was on W. 48th St. in Carbondale. It burned down several years ago.
Never got to eat at this one, but they had a nice sign.
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Hey, here is KIPS BIG BOY. . . .
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Many Tulsan's Favorite The Golden Drumstick
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Town and Country - Seems Steaks, Sea Food and Chicken are still popular today.
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The White Swan - Looked like a hoppin' joint.
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Wynn's Club Buffet on 21 West 3rd Street
Beer was a quarter!
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THAT IS ONE SMOOTH STREET !
6th and Boston looking north in 1926. Businesses pictured include the Sunoco Building, Public Service Co. Electric (later AEP/PSO), and the Philtower Building (under construction). The church in front of the Philtower was the site of the Boston Avenue Methodist Church before they moved to their larger, more famous Art Deco building.
The location occupied in this picture by Grant's Lunch was replaced by a Borden's Cafe, which later became Nelson's Buffeteria.
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The northwest corner of 5th and Boston in 1939. Crown Drugstore is on the corner, Nelson's Char-Broiled Steaks (with the white elephant signage) is to the right. Nelson's would later become Nelsons Buffeteria at a location a block away.
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WHO COULD FORGET THE SCHOOL CAFETERIA
EAT A SQUARE LUNCH !
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BACK DOWNTOWN TO PRIDES CAFETERIA
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Looking east on 3rd Street from Main. Buildings shown include Zales Jewelry, First National Bank, Bell Clothing, Pride's Cafeteria, and the Tulsa Hotel.
Soda or Ice Cream perhaps.
Anyone remember where this was in Tulsa and when?
Notice how many employees they have working taking care of business. And all in proper uniforms as well.
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I remember when DX had to gold plate the gasoline pump handles and offer Color TV in their lobby to get people to travel as far as...51st & Yale to buy gas. And they did.
Gas station on the nw corner of 51st and Yale had high performance high octane blue fuel. It was around 50 cents per gallon. Only had it at the single pump off on the north west side of the parking lot. All the gear heads bought it.
51st and Yale in 1951
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Willie's Silver Castle - 24 hour diner across the street from the Circle Theater in Whittier. Best at about 3:00 AM (if you could find a seat).
RJ's - On north side of 15th, just a little ways west of the original Ron's Hamburgers and Chili. Ran by a Cajun guy named Ron Sonnier. No set menu, best gumbo I have ever eaten. In fact, I have his recipe.
Hank's Hamburgers - This has been mentioned but a little more info. This Hank's was located at 9th and Lewis. Ran by a guy named Walt and his wife, Margie. The Margie's special: Triple meat, triple pepper, triple cheese. At supper there every Sunday night during the mid-late 70's while at TU.
Jim Elias at his Jamil's Restaurant which was located at 26th & Harvard. At one time they purchased their meat from the Jitney Jungle Food store nearby.
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Jamil's is now located on east 51st street between Harvard and Lewis on the south side of the Skelly Bypass I-44.
AMP those family restaurants..were you referring to the old Walker Family Foods?
Remember "Mr T's" on the Northeast corner of 36th and South Peoria.
Article in recently indicated Golden Drumstick was previously at Ninde's Funeral Home on South Peoria, for some reason I had associated Don's Streak House with that location.
We used to have running battle of which new style hamburger place we would go to. McDonalds on 11th or Sandys just a bit west on 11th. Or Griffs.
When we moved WAY out south to 51st and Yale, before Park Lane theater was built there was a Taco Place about 49th and Sheridan called "Taco Boy."
We liked it because they sponsored our former barber and Tulsa Speedway driver Val Hess. Yes Val cut hair with his brother Dewey together for several years. Their uncle was Dewey Holmes, who advertised himself as a "Short Haircut Specialist".
I remember the DX at 51 and Yale and their car wash. Several neighbor kids had their first job at the carwash.
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Fiesta Cantenna se Corner 51st & Harvard by the
Sirloin Stockade and Arthur Treacher's Fish n Chips.
24/7's
Valley Inn Restaurant
Steak & Egg
Saratoga
Country Fair, which used to be located in a strip mall around 37-38th and Harvard. As a kid, I was addicted to the egg noodles they served.
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The Blue Moon Club
"Menu from the Blue Moon Club, located on the northwest corner of 36th St. North and Cincinnati.
This menu dates from the late 1930s or early 1940s (circa 1940). Restaurants technically could not sell liquor at that time, but all of the typical mixers were available to purchase, and the management generally turned a blind eye to those patrons who brought in brown paper sacks. The Blue Moon was also famous for its dinners and live entertainment."
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Ralph Britt Orchestra
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From Tulsa TV Memories Web Site.
Jade East Restaurant
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The Golden Drumstick 11th & Yale
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Great Photos of post cards and more from Tulsa Motels and Restaurants.
From Tulsa TV's collection.
Vist the web site at:
Lwww.tulsatvmemories.com
^ and the old MIDDLE PATH!!!!
golden drumstick turned into a health food eaterie.
The subject of Brookside/36th & Peoria reminds me that when I was little, I used to walk with my grandpa and dad to the Page Glencliff Dairy at about 34th or 35th and Peoria for an ice cream cone. I remember they were only 5 cents a dip.
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I think the Rogers HS equivalent was Boots but don't remember where it was exactly.
There was a drive-in that I think was a Boots at Admiral and Harvard just east of the Mazzios building that is there now. I had only been there once or twice when I was a wee lad.
As I recall, Boots was on Sheridan about 18th on the east side of the street. (About where the Braums is now.)
Later there was a strip center (so to speak) built that was home to a bunch of "adult entertainment venues," the most popular of which was "The Pearly Gate".
Right next to Pearly Gate was a Bonanza Steak House. You could hear the music beating thorough the wall.
Another very popular drive in was at Admiral and Memorial where McDonaleds is. That drive in was Norman Angels.
What was Helmut's Alpine Kitchen called before? There used to be another name to it but I forgot.
>>What was Helmut's Alpine Kitchen called before?
House of the "Special Sauce?"
That reminds me of another restaurant now gone, Lum's on 3rd Street east of Peoria.
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Originally posted by waterboy
I remember when DX had to gold plate the gasoline pump handles and offer Color TV in their lobby to get people to travel as far as...51st & Yale to buy gas. And they did.
And they probably gave Green Stamps and free road maps too.
In the 1960s, the DX station that used to be at 21st & Sheridan (where Burger King is now) would give out Christmas music "various artists" LPs around Christmastime to their regular customers, stereo LPs put out by Columbia Records for Goodyear Tire & Rubber. I still have 3 of these old albums that I plop on the turntable around Christmas every year.
I remember DX had a kid's premium giveaway toy called the "DX Getaway Chase Game." It was a racing car/slot car type board game with a cops and robbers theme. My brother & I had one and used to play with it all the time. I saw one pop up on EBAY awhile back; that sure brought back some memories.
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As I recall, Boots was on Sheridan about 18th on the east side of the street. (About where the Braums is now.)
Right. I think Boot's Drive-In was at about 19th & Sheridan; when it was closed, the site was cleared for the construction of Shotgun Sam's Pizza Palace. It is now a different restaurant.
Incidentally, the man that owned and ran Boot's Drive In on Sheridan is the proprietor of the Steakfinger House restaurant downtown at 4th & Boulder. He has run Steakfingers for over 20 years now.
Where was the Town & Country Restaurant located? (from the picture up top). Seems I remember that building from somewhere. Is it still around?
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Originally posted by Aa5drvr
>>What was Helmut's Alpine Kitchen called before?
House of the "Special Sauce?"
That was a "Big Boy".
Are you referring to the same "special sauce" incident I'm thinking of that happened there with one of the cooks? Blecccch!!! [xx(]
It had to do something with the chef molesting the omlette batter...It was only the Farmers Omlette though......
Or was it the Farmers Daughter Omlette?
http://www.recipezaar.com/94185
Bishop's Brown Derby Recipe From the Tulsa World, my sister sent this link to me.
Town and Country restaurant was part of the Town & Country Motel. Found it listed in Art Deco in Tulsa at 3301 South Peoria. Built in 1946. Streamline Style Art Deco. Address check matches S&J Seafood Cafe and En Fuego.
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This in via email from the "Little Fat Furry" A Tulsan who was displaced in Maryland for years.
Anyone recall these or the missing names of these restaurants?
"Nobody has mentioned the French's hamburger stands downtown.
Nifty Cafe downtown a half block from the old Central High School on Detroit.
I can't remember the name of the restaurant where the "sosh's" hung out there on the northeast corner of 6th and Cinncinnati on the ground floor of the Tulsa Auto Hotel.
Then there was another on 7th street down a few steps between Detroit and Elgin.
No mention of the ice cream parlor at the corner of 7th and Kenosha (where the office furniture store is now).
One we all went to after the football games at Skelly on 11th street just East of Lewis.
And what was the name of the drive-in on the northwest corner of 11th and Boulder (super popular during the days of the KELI/KAKC wars for dominance of the airwaves)?"
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Originally posted by Wingnut
Or was it the Farmers Daughter Omlette?
Nope it was just him and the batter....No one else involved...He was using it as a type of lubricant....You figure out the rest.....
Some type of protein enriched organic thickening agent.
Others I recall:
Franks Pig Stand, 14th Boston.
Kon Tiki Koni at Admiral and Yale. Had a big tiki mask out front.
Little Fat Furry recalls this via email.
"Orpheum Cigar Store buffet for men.
Turkey & Dressing, Sausage & Sour Kraut with Mashed Potatoes, Smothered Steak, Beef Tips and Noodles.
Across from 320 Boston on the other side of the narrow store. Tables on 2 foot high risers. No seating, men stood up and ate."
I went to Jamil's tonight. Gone there for years.
Worst service, worst food, I've ever had there. They've gone down hill fast, they can bulldoze it tomorrow as far as I'm concerned.
Coleman's Grill 15th & Main.
Old 24 hour diver on 11th near Cheyenne and Denver North side of 11th Street. What what the name of that one?
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I went to Jamil's tonight. Gone there for years.
Worst service, worst food, I've ever had there. They've gone down hill fast, they can bulldoze it tomorrow as far as I'm concerned.
I always try to get Robert and Cookie his wife on the lower level by the front door.
El Chico at 18th & Baltimore across from Spirtt bank building. El Chico's are still in Tulsa. One of the first locations. "Like moma Like Son pure Mexican"
>>El Chico at 18th & Baltimore across from
When I was a kid (most of the restaurants were along 11th street), there were really only two prominent mexican restaurants in Tulsa.
El Rancho Grande on 11th and the restaurant on 18th by the fire startion and what was the Louisianne....
Eventually it was El Chico, but I believe originally it was El Charrito.
It was El Charrito. They were bought out i think by the Chico chain.
What about that funny little diner on 15th just west of Peoria on the South side where Mcdonalds parking lot is now. It looked like a house converted to a diner. Closed back in the early 80's because his builtin refrigerator couldn't be fixed and they were going to have to tear a wall out to remove it so he just closed it up.
They had a great "brown derby". Salisbury steak covered with a scoop of mashed potatoes and brown gravy. Added character to the neighborhood.
Did Kal's Chop House close down?
Has anyone mentioned the old fancy date classic, The Louisianne on 18th at Boston?
How bout Shaw's Drive Inn at 22nd and Yale.....
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Did Kal's Chop House close down?
Last Monday.
Any details on what happened to Kal's Chop House? His commercials were all over the radio and I thought that thery were doing good business. Anyone know?
I had a direct conversation with one of the principal investors last Thursday night so my source is rock-solid.
I don't think it would be appropriate to say much more than: if I were to open a restaurant here, Kal wouldn't be my pick for a manager.
Sales were slipping the last six months very precipitously. Vendors weren't getting paid, etc. Some of it was the "new" wearing off, some of it was regulars being run off over a variety of reasons. They also had what sounded like somewhat of a constant turn-over in the kitchen.
Pretty much what happens when any restaurant tanks in this town.
The food was good, if not a little over-priced. I've managed to drop 2 1/2 bills in there on a dinner for two.
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I had a direct conversation with one of the principal investors last Thursday night so my source is rock-solid.
I don't think it would be appropriate to say much more than: if I were to open a restaurant here, Kal wouldn't be my pick for a manager.
The food was good, if not a little over-priced. I've managed to drop 2 1/2 bills in there on a dinner for two.
I had never heard of this place other than on this message board. I listen to KMOD and whatever that morning talk show station with Gwen Freeman and Chris Medlock is in the AM.
Where was this restaurant located?
Oh, I found it, 6800 South Lewis Kal's Southern Hills Chop House. Sounds like they didn't get their fair share of the predicted $60,000,000 that was in town during the PGA.
Of course I have also never heard of the River thing in Jenks or seen a photo or read anything about it either, other than on here and at Brownies Hamburgers when I asked where Gary had gone to again. He went into Insurance sales at one time in history, then came back to Brownies for a long time, then they said he tried a place in Jenks at some River place. He was an excellent silverware juggler! I assume that was the same place somewhere way down in Jenks.
The Kal's folks found out what everyone else figured out during US Open '01, PGA '94, TC '96 etc (or whatever years those tourneys were). No one shops or eats around that area during the tournament due to the traffic or percieved traffic problems. I specifically asked how that week went- "crappy" to loosely paraphrase the answer.
Either that or they are ready to go home or to their hotel to clean up and soak up some A/C when they are done at the course for the day. Once you are on-site you really don't feel like walking a half mile to get something to eat.
You could close your place for a week and not miss much.
Steamroller Blues closed the week before the US Open. They could have cashed in one last time. The restaurants around 81st & Harvard did very well that week while 51st to 71st & Lewis suffered.
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I went to Jamil's tonight. Gone there for years.
Worst service, worst food, I've ever had there. They've gone down hill fast, they can bulldoze it tomorrow as far as I'm concerned.
GAWD AWEFUL!!!!! went in there two months ago....it's like the health department quit stopping by....burn it down Tyrone. The only good thing in there is the picture of you and Frank Zappa.....
and what was that 24/7 diner on 11th between Denver and Cinn ave? Ate there after the Cain's many times in the 70's....
Jamil's
The last time I ate there was Sept 10, 2001...
dum..da..dum..dum..
Really poor service. The guy that waited on us was so old and he shook so badly that he couldn't even fill water glasses on the table without pouring water on our food.
He still works there. It's hit or miss. I like it.
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How bout Shaw's Drive Inn at 22nd and Yale.....
Shaw's was at 32nd and Yale, sits across from the Egg Roll Express today.
Man that ran it wore glasses, he and his wife ran the business. They had one of the best tasting burgers I recall. Me and Roger Rutz were involved in a traffic accident there one Saturday afternoon when I was around 15. He was driving his dad's prized two door 50's small V-8 powered Ford T-Bird. Jim Dillon came along heading north on Yale and stopped to let us out of the drive. We most times went north and turned riight on 31st, I believe we took the BA to Sheridan exit. Anyway, Roger decided to turn left and ran head-on into an oncoming car he never saw coming up the inside north bound lane. I remember the red and white ambulance coming to get the person driving the other car. I thought Roger was going to need a second ambulance once his dad arrived and saw his car !
My mom owned an Orange Julius business there before it was Shaw's Drive Inn. My dad built the concrete block building there prior to 1956 for the Orange Julius Stand. The glass front was not there when it was first opened. It bacame a donut place, not sure what it is today.
Mom never worked there, she just owned it. I always liked the frothy Orange Julius drinks we got there. Back then they use a raw egg in them if you ordered it that way. Yummy to the MAX!
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He still works there. It's hit or miss. I like it.
God he stressed me out. Left him a really good tip though...I figure any guy that's waiting tables that late in life deserves some props. Hell, he probably just loves working.
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Jamil's
The last time I ate there was Sept 10, 2001...
dum..da..dum..dum..
Really poor service. The guy that waited on us was so old and he shook so badly that he couldn't even fill water glasses on the table without pouring water on our food.
I can smell and taste the Hickory smoked meat. Yummy. Jamil's purchased their meats from Jitney Jungle when they first started. Jitney Jungle's meat counter was located near 32nd and Harvard across from Ranch Acres Shopping Center.
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Grant Hastings who invented the Hasty Bake and my dad would also buy meat there. They got it for the big annual Oertle's employee picnics my dad held. Nothing better than a steak and grilled onion from an original Hasty Bake Oven. Elias have used a similar hooded oven for years at their restaurants.
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Tulsan Grant Hastings inventor of the Hasty Bake Charcoal Oven.
Guess it is like Bell's and other nostalgic places in Tulsa. If one does not know the history and the people it may not be as interesting or seem proper. If you sit in Robert's area downstairs, just tell him to set the water or tea pitcher on the end of the table and you will handle it. Many folks enjoy a special Spiked drink from Benard's famous mixing station in the kitchen. Once you have had one of those whammy drinks, most everything else seems cool I have been told. There is typically lots of free entertainmenet at Jamil's as well. I recall the night when a man that was drinking them fell out of his chair "ka blam" on the floor in front of a table of Highway Patrol Troopers. That was a sight to see... LOL
Other option is to get carry out and take it home or to your own atmosphere, we do that a lot too.
Sounds like Robert is the older gentleman you are describing. He was with the original owner Jimmy Elias when Jamil's first opened. He can tell you some very interesting stories of the restaurant's history. One he shared with us at dinner one evening was about their first night in business. He said that Jimmy and he were the only two working there, and when they got up to around $45 and ran out of plates, they closed for the night. It was around 7pm.
Roberts' photo is on east wall near the kitchen door in the lobby. He is taking an order over the phone, he appears to be around 18 yrs old in that photo. That was over 58 years ago.
He was there when the shooting occured, when they were robbed and the robbers ran across the Skelly By Pass, and when the OU and Texas football fans got into the big fight downstairs. I was there when Jimmy got one of Tulsa's first Juke Boxes that played 33 1/3 Rpm LPs instead of the 45 Rpm singles. Jimmy was very proud of that Juke Box.
Robert was there when many big names visited the restaurant such as: Jayne Mansfield, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Danny Thomas, Roger Staubach, Leon Russell, Muhammad Ali, Mickey Mantle, Frank Zappa, Sam Kinnison, Eddy Money and many more. Some photos of the stars have been stolen, but some are still hanging on the walls there.
Carol works upstairs along with some younger waitresses, may ask for Carol next visit if you are not a regular of Robert's and don't like his service style. His wife Cookie normally assists him with servicing tables. I always like to sit in Robert's area just for the stories alone.
Believe I will go there tonight and enjoy the $9.95 Jamil's special thick juicy hickory grilled charbroiled Steak that comes with their famous sampler basket of smoked ribs and balogna along with their homemade BBQ sauce and served with appetizers of tabouli, humas tahini bean dip, relish plate with radish-pickle-celery-peppers-green onions, assorted bread, along with the full course meal of choice of meat, cabbage roll, salad and a baked potato with butter and sour cream.
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Believe I will go there tonight and enjoy a the $9.95 Jamil's special thick juicy charbroiled Steak that comes with their famous basket of smoked ribs and balogna along with their homemade BBQ sause and served with appetizers of tabouli, humas tahini bean dip, relish plate with radish-pickle-celery-peppers-green onions, assorted bread, along with the full course salad and a baked potato with butter and sour cream.
Do they have a portable defib on site?
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Believe I will go there tonight and enjoy a the $9.95 Jamil's special thick juicy charbroiled Steak that comes with their famous basket of smoked ribs and balogna along with their homemade BBQ sause and served with appetizers of tabouli, humas tahini bean dip, relish plate with radish-pickle-celery-peppers-green onions, assorted bread, along with the full course salad and a baked potato with butter and sour cream.
Do they have a portable defib on site?
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Defib for Robert or AMP?
Touche'
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by iplaw
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Believe I will go there tonight and enjoy a the $9.95 Jamil's special thick juicy charbroiled Steak that comes with their famous basket of smoked ribs and balogna along with their homemade BBQ sause and served with appetizers of tabouli, humas tahini bean dip, relish plate with radish-pickle-celery-peppers-green onions, assorted bread, along with the full course salad and a baked potato with butter and sour cream.
Do they have a portable defib on site?
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Defib for Robert or AMP?
Touche'
Sure don't need the Defib when you are handed the bill there. $9.95 is a super deal by today's standards for all that food. Plus you get a doggy bag if you ask, to help avoid having to use the defib for over eating. LOL
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Originally posted by Breadburner
How bout Shaw's Drive Inn at 22nd and Yale.....
Shaw's was at 32nd and Yale, sits across from the Egg Roll Express today.
Man that ran it wore glasses, he and his wife ran the business. They had one of the best tasting burgers I recall. Me and Roger Rutz were involved in a traffic accident there one Saturday afternoon when I was around 15. He was driving his dad's prized two door 50's small V-8 powered Ford T-Bird. Jim Dillon came along heading north on Yale and stopped to let us out of the drive. We most times went north and turned riight on 31st, I believe we took the BA to Sheridan exit. Anyway, Roger decided to turn left and ran head-on into an oncoming car he never saw coming up the inside north bound lane. I remember the red and white ambulance coming to get the person driving the other car. I thought Roger was going to need a second ambulance once his dad arrived and saw his car !
My mom owned an Orange Julius business there before it was Shaw's Drive Inn. My dad built the concrete block building there prior to 1956 for the Orange Julius Stand. The glass front was not there when it was first opened. It bacame a donut place, not sure what it is today.
Mom never worked there, she just owned it. I always liked the frothy Orange Julius drinks we got there. Back then they use a raw egg in them if you ordered it that way. Yummy to the MAX!
(http://cakeplow.com/uploaded_images/orange_julius-730532.gif)
May be combined with Dariy Queen stores today.
Yup....You're right...I meant 32nd.....
Jamil's and Eddie's (are those the only Elias steak houses?) have always been consistently inconsistent.
I've gone there and had a great meal, then a few weeks later been served ALPO. I don't really bother with either one of those places anymore.
Lots of food for $9.95, but if it's crap, I'd rather set fire to a $10 bill out in the parking lot.
Tommy's Continental?
Villa Venice
Shadow Mountain Inn
Italian Inn
Kay's Restaurant
Judy and Marty's
Bianca's Palm Club
Copper Oaks Restaurant
and of course The Garden!
Guess I ate out often [:P]
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Uno's Pizzaria, even though it was a chain.
(the frozen version you see in stores isnt the same... must be the lead paint from China) [;)]
I completely agree. I also miss the following, but Uno's affects me the most. I go there every time I'm in a big city that has it.
Also:
Sleepy Hollow - anyone remember that one?
S & J Oysters
Mondo's
Sleepy Hollow was great. I loved their fried chicken and biscuits. It was sad to see that it converted into a Mexican resturant when I came back to town.
Another I really used to like was tucked in the corner of the strip center on the NW corner of Memorial and 61st. I can't remember their name to save my life (I want to say Silver Flame, but isn't that the steakhouse at 61st and Sheridan?), but they had fantastic HUGE onion rings that would feed a family.
Others that I miss upon occasion:
Casa Monterrey - 41st and Peoria. Still waiting for a new Casa Laredo to open down by the Circle Theater. Haven't tried out the one they opened in the Farm. Hope they paint new murals on their walls if they ever get the DT one open.
Maid-Rite Hamburgers - 91st & Sheridan. Loved those loose meat burgers!
Mr. Gatti's - 71st & Memorial. Their buffet was always awesome back during High School. Much preferred Gatti's over Godfather's (Fontana) back then.
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Originally posted by T Badd
Sleepy Hollow was great. I loved their fried chicken and biscuits. It was sad to see that it converted into a Mexican resturant when I came back to town.
Another I really used to like was tucked in the corner of the strip center on the NW corner of Memorial and 61st. I can't remember their name to save my life (I want to say Silver Flame, but isn't that the steakhouse at 61st and Sheridan?), but they had fantastic HUGE onion rings that would feed a family.
Others that I miss upon occasion:
Casa Monterrey - 41st and Peoria. Still waiting for a new Casa Laredo to open down by the Circle Theater. Haven't tried out the one they opened in the Farm. Hope they paint new murals on their walls if they ever get the DT one open.
Maid-Rite Hamburgers - 91st & Sheridan. Loved those loose meat burgers!
Mr. Gatti's - 71st & Memorial. Their buffet was always awesome back during High School. Much preferred Gatti's over Godfather's (Fontana) back then.
Wasn't Garfield's was it? That's the only one I can think of NW of 61st & Memorial.
I guess Peking Garden down by Sleepy Hollow has been closed awhle too hasn't it?
That used to be a great prom date place back in the day.
Not a restaurant, but Sipes deli had the best fried chicken and pepperoni rolls when I was a kid. We loved getting that to go on Sunday after church.
Reading this thread made me think of 2 of the very few things I miss about living in California. Der Wienerschnitzel and Shakeys Pizza. Awsome chili and corn dogs. I know what Tulsa severly LACKS is a coffee shop('s) (besides Denny's) and good bakery's.
Halim & Mimi's...not really "gone" but as of today, new owner took over. I'm meeting a friend there tomorrow. I hope the new owner does well and I understand Halim will be helping this week. I'm happy for H&M, but sad to see them go. Sweet people. So tomorrow we'll see how it goes!
Also heard that St. Michael's Alley closed. Not surprised. After Jeff sold it, it went downhill. The new owners weren't very nice and they always had the place full of family and ignored everyone else. And they didn't appreciate the music/musicians. JMO.
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Originally posted by bmuscotty
Reading this thread made me think of 2 of the very few things I miss about living in California. Der Wienerschnitzel and Shakeys Pizza. Awsome chili and corn dogs. I know what Tulsa severly LACKS is a coffee shop('s) (besides Denny's) and good bakery's.
For starters try Shades of Brown at 32nd & Peoria and the coffee shop on Cherry St. at about 15th & Quincy or so.
Starbucks blows, go local.
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I thought Streamroller's BBQ was great. At least it was every time I ate there. The raspberry and blueberry BBQ sauces were really, really good. I had friends in from out of town and they loved it as well. They still ask if the place ever reopened in another location.
A sports bar is going in to that location now. (The old Embers.)
I stumbled onto this site doing some research on the Louisiane and this post caught my eye. I'm a partner in a BBQ company called 3 Guys Smokin'. We licensed our recipes and sauces to Tom for Steamroller and it was great while the kitchen was preparing things as we taught them. Once they stopped, the food went downhill.
The sauces--Smokin' Blues and Smokin' Razz--are still available. You can find our products at Perry's, Hasty Bake, Siegi's, and Savory Chef.
Another new restaurant, the Clubhouse, is about to open soon and will feature some of our recipes. You can find more information here (//%22http://www.smokinfoods.com/#mce_temp_url#%22).
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I thought Streamroller's BBQ was great. At least it was every time I ate there. The raspberry and blueberry BBQ sauces were really, really good. I had friends in from out of town and they loved it as well. They still ask if the place ever reopened in another location.
A sports bar is going in to that location now. (The old Embers.)
I stumbled onto this site doing some research on the Louisiane and this post caught my eye. I'm a partner in a BBQ company called 3 Guys Smokin'. We licensed our recipes and sauces to Tom for Steamroller and it was great while the kitchen was preparing things as we taught them. Once they stopped, the food went downhill.
The sauces--Smokin' Blues and Smokin' Razz--are still available. You can find our products at Perry's, Hasty Bake, Siegi's, and Savory Chef.
Another new restaurant, the Clubhouse, is about to open soon and will feature some of our recipes. You can find more information here (//%22http://www.smokinfoods.com/#mce_temp_url#%22).
nice web site, a small irritant is not being able to turn off the music. Let us know when it opens and we will head on down to check the place out. love us some que.
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Originally posted by bmuscotty
Reading this thread made me think of 2 of the very few things I miss about living in California. Der Wienerschnitzel and Shakeys Pizza. Awsome chili and corn dogs. I know what Tulsa severly LACKS is a coffee shop('s) (besides Denny's) and good bakery's.
For starters try Shades of Brown at 32nd & Peoria
I dunno why people suggest that place. The coffee is weak.
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Originally posted by inteller
I dunno why people suggest that place. The coffee is weak.
You are a blinding ray of sunshine
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by bmuscotty
Reading this thread made me think of 2 of the very few things I miss about living in California. Der Wienerschnitzel and Shakeys Pizza. Awsome chili and corn dogs. I know what Tulsa severly LACKS is a coffee shop('s) (besides Denny's) and good bakery's.
For starters try Shades of Brown at 32nd & Peoria
I dunno why people suggest that place. The coffee is weak.
The best consistent coffee IMO can be found at Cafe Cubana. James the owner has not only a loyal customer base but his employees are long term.
Coffee House on Cherry St. has a better atmosphere than Cafe Cubana but the coffee cannot compare.
Stay away from Double Shot. Probably one of the best cups of coffee in Tulsa but the owner is a complete tool. I have been thrown out about three times. Once, the owner with a sneer asked me why I would order a Mocha (it was for my girlfriend). I responded, why do you have it listed on your board if you don't want to sell it? Boom, I was kicked out. I do recommend visiting when Jesus (employee who used to work for Shades) is working. He does a great job. You can find his pic on the Phat Philly's wall of shame. He is a skinny guy too. If Brian(owner) gets over his penis issues or starts medication it would be the perfect coffee shop.
Shades of Brown? I just can't recommend the coffee there. It's ok, the owner is very cool but I see her drinking coffee at Cafe Cubana.
Topeca in downtown is surprisingly decent. They supply The Coffee House on Cherry St. coffee beans.
Alisee MoMo hasn't been the same since the former owner "Ali" smashed in their windows. The are giving away Thanksgiving dinners tomorrow.
Cafe Kona is alright but I think the closest one is located just outside of OKC. [:P]
Java Dave's. I have tried to support them but I just can't stomach it.
Nordaggio's is not too bad. I hated to see them leave Owasso.
Mr. Burns
Peking Garden on Lewis.
Has this been mentioned yet? MY parent took us there when we were kids quite a bit. I think it's where my love of Asian food began.
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Stay away from Double Shot. Probably one of the best cups of coffee in Tulsa but the owner is a complete tool. I have been thrown out about three times. Once, the owner with a sneer asked me why I would order a Mocha (it was for my girlfriend). I responded, why do you have it listed on your board if you don't want to sell it? Boom, I was kicked out. I do recommend visiting when Jesus (employee who used to work for Shades) is working. He does a great job. You can find his pic on the Phat Philly's wall of shame. He is a skinny guy too. If Brian(owner) gets over his penis issues or starts medication it would be the perfect coffee shop.
NO COFFEE FOR YOU! COME BACK ONE YEAR!!
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Originally posted by Tulsa Collector
I stumbled onto this site doing some research on the Louisiane ... <snip>
I work in the office building at 14th & Boston and I have been told that The Louisiane used to be located on the first floor. Does anyone know if this is true?
The Louisiane's original location was at 18th and Boston.
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Originally posted by AMP
Soda or Ice Cream perhaps.
Anyone remember where this was in Tulsa and when?
Notice how many employees they have working taking care of business. And all in proper uniforms as well.
(http://www.tulsalibrary.org/JPG/B7553.jpg)
Could this picture be of Sonheimer's Ice Cream? They used to be in the Building that houses Big Al's now at 15th and Harvard. I went to Rogers High School with Sally Sonheimer... I never actually went there so I'm not sure. Also some restaurants I haven't seen brought up in this thread - The Loaf and Ladle, Choices and The Magic Pan Craperie. The Loaf and Ladle was at about 12th and Main, they had delicious corn potato chowder, sandwiches, coffee and carrot cake. The original owners were a really friendly couple, I don't remember their names. They sold it to another family and it wasn't quite the same afterwards. Choices used to be at about 17th and Main I believe. They had a great lunch menu with lots of "choices." The Magic Pan was up in the Williams Center and they had delicious food and a nice view of downtown.
Sally's last name was spelled Sontheimer. She now lives in Rome and puts on writing workshops for women.
http://www.nialamaharaj.com/Siena/whoarewe2.html
I went to their ice cream store often as a child. You could be right. My memories are as old as yours, but it looks like what I remember.
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Sally's last name was spelled Sontheimer. She now lives in Rome and puts on writing workshops for women.
http://www.nialamaharaj.com/Siena/whoarewe2.html
I went to their ice cream store often as a child. You could be right. My memories are as old as yours, but it looks like what I remember.
Thanks for that info Michael. I wondered what happened to Sally - that's great! Sorry I misspelled her name.
I e-mailed her and asked if that was her family's shop.
I hope she responds, it is 8:20 pm her time now.
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Sally's last name was spelled Sontheimer.
I remember now. The 't' is silent!
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Originally posted by tulsamini I work in the office building at 14th & Boston and I have been told that The Louisiane used to be located on the first floor. Does anyone know if this is true?
BTW, I do seem to recall the Louissianne Restaurant briefly moving to 14th and Boston.
I don't remember the ice cream store @ 15th & Harvard set up like this. When I started going there it was called Shiveleys (not sure about the spelling) and later it was called Penningtons. Not saying it wasn't ever called Sontheimers, my family always said "let's go to Shiveley's even after the name change. My parents took us there a lot, specially after doctor & dentist appts. It was still an ice cream shop up until around '72ish. I would love to have some of the tiny spoons they used. Ice water has never tasted as good as the ice water there in the paper cones stuck in a metal holder.
Doesn't take me long to kill a thread![:D]
I did receive a return e-mail. This is not a picture of their family's ice dream store.
Some of mine that I miss.
Nelsons Buffeteria - the best chicken fried stek in the world, but i hear that the new owner is supposed to reopen it.
East Side Cafe - went there every Thursday night as a kid
Piccalos Pizza - around Admiral and Sheridan
Schlotzskys - i know they are still around, but now they are schlotzskys deli, not the same as the old original sandwich shop, they were gone for a while, and returned under the deli format.
Shotgun Sams - the original, not what they had become before closing.
and for anyone missing the east side cafe onion rings, Runts BBQ in BA, next to Bass Pro Shop, now owns the recipe, and is serving them up, just as good as East Side
The East Side Cafe I remember going to but I can't remember where it was. I know it was on Admiral Place next to 244, was it west of Utica?
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The East Side Cafe I remember going to but I can't remember where it was. I know it was on Admiral Place next to 244, was it west of Utica?
It was on Admiral, between Harvard and Delaware, closer to Delaware
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Originally posted by Danny
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and for anyone missing the east side cafe onion rings, Runts BBQ in BA, next to Bass Pro Shop, now owns the recipe, and is serving them up, just as good as East Side
Too bad Runts BBQ isn't that special...
And I do remember Scholtzky's on 11th, one on 31st and Mingo, the relatively new one at 21st and Garnett that didn't last long, the one on 71st and the one downtown (is that one even still there?) Their sandwiches aren't much different than back then, but the restaurant sure has changed. Closest one for me is the one in BA just off the highway east of Lynn Lane. We usually go there about once or twice a month. It's a guilty pleasure for me.
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Originally posted by Danny
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and for anyone missing the east side cafe onion rings, Runts BBQ in BA, next to Bass Pro Shop, now owns the recipe, and is serving them up, just as good as East Side
Too bad Runts BBQ isn't that special...
Im with you on that, but its OK to suffer through a sub par sandwich in order to get the onion rings
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Originally posted by Danny
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Originally posted by dbacks fan
The East Side Cafe I remember going to but I can't remember where it was. I know it was on Admiral Place next to 244, was it west of Utica?
It was on Admiral, between Harvard and Delaware, closer to Delaware
Thanks, I believe it was Birmingham neare the pedestrian bridge over 244. I think this (//%22http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p309/kallsop2/Admiral.jpg%22) is it.
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Originally posted by Tulsa Collector
I stumbled onto this site doing some research on the Louisiane ... <snip>
I work in the office building at 14th & Boston and I have been told that The Louisiane used to be located on the first floor. Does anyone know if this is true?
It did relocate to the first floor of that building after it left 18th and Boston. I can't remember it hung on after the move though.
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Originally posted by Danny
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by Danny
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and for anyone missing the east side cafe onion rings, Runts BBQ in BA, next to Bass Pro Shop, now owns the recipe, and is serving them up, just as good as East Side
Too bad Runts BBQ isn't that special...
Im with you on that, but its OK to suffer through a sub par sandwich in order to get the onion rings
I grew up on Eastside Cafe food. One of my most traumatizing experiences as a child was being dropped off at the nursery across from Eastside Cafe and then about two hours later seeing my parents through the window eating and when they saw me just waved back.
Anyway I digress. The Freeway Cafe on 4th and Sheridan has a Eastside Cafe recipe for Onion Rings that is about as close as I have found. The food is pretty good too. Check it out.
Mr. Burns
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Originally posted by Danny
Some of mine that I miss.
Nelsons Buffeteria - the best chicken fried stek in the world, but i hear that the new owner is supposed to reopen it.
East Side Cafe - went there every Thursday night as a kid
Piccalos Pizza - around Admiral and Sheridan
Schlotzskys - i know they are still around, but now they are schlotzskys deli, not the same as the old original sandwich shop, they were gone for a while, and returned under the deli format.
Shotgun Sams - the original, not what they had become before closing.
and for anyone missing the east side cafe onion rings, Runts BBQ in BA, next to Bass Pro Shop, now owns the recipe, and is serving them up, just as good as East Side
What did you hear about Nelson's? This city lost part of its soul when that place folded up. Tell me it's not the guy who bought it from Nelson and then ran the thing into the ground shortly thereafter.
Gawd, I miss that place. It was so special.
Just the thought of it got me to Google Nelson's and I found this. Doesn't sound close to happening. http://reporting.journalism.ku.edu/fall08/adler-noland/2008/11/profile.html
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Originally posted by Gold
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Originally posted by Danny
Some of mine that I miss.
Nelsons Buffeteria - the best chicken fried stek in the world, but i hear that the new owner is supposed to reopen it.
East Side Cafe - went there every Thursday night as a kid
Piccalos Pizza - around Admiral and Sheridan
Schlotzskys - i know they are still around, but now they are schlotzskys deli, not the same as the old original sandwich shop, they were gone for a while, and returned under the deli format.
Shotgun Sams - the original, not what they had become before closing.
and for anyone missing the east side cafe onion rings, Runts BBQ in BA, next to Bass Pro Shop, now owns the recipe, and is serving them up, just as good as East Side
What did you hear about Nelson's? This city lost part of its soul when that place folded up. Tell me it's not the guy who bought it from Nelson and then ran the thing into the ground shortly thereafter.
Gawd, I miss that place. It was so special.
Just the thought of it got me to Google Nelson's and I found this. Doesn't sound close to happening. http://reporting.journalism.ku.edu/fall08/adler-noland/2008/11/profile.html
well, a friend that works downtown told me that, but if its not in the same location, with the same guys running the line, it just wouldnt be the same.
Eastside Cafe = 3021 E Admiral Place; between Florence & College.
Stussels...61 & Memeorial.
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Originally posted by Danny
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Originally posted by Gold
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Originally posted by Danny
Some of mine that I miss.
Nelsons Buffeteria - the best chicken fried stek in the world, but i hear that the new owner is supposed to reopen it.
East Side Cafe - went there every Thursday night as a kid
Piccalos Pizza - around Admiral and Sheridan
Schlotzskys - i know they are still around, but now they are schlotzskys deli, not the same as the old original sandwich shop, they were gone for a while, and returned under the deli format.
Shotgun Sams - the original, not what they had become before closing.
and for anyone missing the east side cafe onion rings, Runts BBQ in BA, next to Bass Pro Shop, now owns the recipe, and is serving them up, just as good as East Side
What did you hear about Nelson's? This city lost part of its soul when that place folded up. Tell me it's not the guy who bought it from Nelson and then ran the thing into the ground shortly thereafter.
Gawd, I miss that place. It was so special.
Just the thought of it got me to Google Nelson's and I found this. Doesn't sound close to happening. http://reporting.journalism.ku.edu/fall08/adler-noland/2008/11/profile.html
well, a friend that works downtown told me that, but if its not in the same location, with the same guys running the line, it just wouldnt be the same.
It won't be the same location unless the Gourmet Sweet Potato Factory, cough, Elote, moves on. Any Nelson's > No Nelson's.
Coney Island has moved a couple of times and it's still awesome. Maybe Nelson's could move where there is foot traffic, like the old Ike's on Main.
Still, if that guy owns the sign and he's in Lawrence, it doesn't bode well.
I'll have to agree the owner of Doubleshot is a tool. He once had an in-store ad that had a bunch of gay icons, followed by the words "that ain't right. Doubleshot Coffee gives it to you straight." When people complained, he replied by saying that anyone who took offense were a bunch of idiots. Yep, being an angry twerp means never having to say you're sorry.
I'm trying to remember the name of a cafeteria that was located (I think) at 51st and Peoria. It was there back in the early 70s. One of their dishes was Glorified Rice. Can anyone help me with the name please? I think it was a Swedish name.
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Originally posted by Sallyh
I'm trying to remember the name of a cafeteria that was located (I think) at 51st and Peoria. It was there back in the early 70s. One of their dishes was Glorified Rice. Can anyone help me with the name please?
I left Tulsa in the early 70's, but I seem to remember a Borden's Cafeteria in that area.
About this cafeteria I'm trying to remember, I forgot to say that it wasn't a chain cafeteria, so it wasn't Furr's or any of the common names of cafeterias. I'm thinking it was a foreign name, but I might be wrong about that, too.
This is fascinating. I moved away from Tulsa in 1979. My parents owned a restaurant in the '60's called Markie's Burger House. It was in a shopping center on (I think) the southwest corner of 11th and Sheridan across from that 2-story shopping center with Borden's upstairs. My grandparents owned 2 different restaurants downtown, one was a White Castle in the '50's (before my time) and another was also called Markie's and I vaguely remember it. It was there in the from around 1960-68. I wonder if anyone remembers those...
My favorite when I was a kid was Casa Bonita (even though the food was pretty bad). I also remember a place downtown. It may have been called Duffy's?? They had these great deep-fried grilled cheese sandwiches.
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Originally posted by Sallyh
About this cafeteria I'm trying to remember, I forgot to say that it wasn't a chain cafeteria, so it wasn't Furr's or any of the common names of cafeterias. I'm thinking it was a foreign name, but I might be wrong about that, too.
Picadilly? I know that is probably foreign to okies.[}:)]
I myself liked the Swenson's in Utica Square- I'm not sure if they are still there.
Borden's Cafeteria was at 51 and Peoria. I worked there from 77-79. I sure had fun working there, but the pay was terrible.
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Originally posted by whoisjongalt
This is fascinating. I moved away from Tulsa in 1979. My parents owned a restaurant in the '60's called Markie's Burger House. It was in a shopping center on (I think) the southwest corner of 11th and Sheridan across from that 2-story shopping center with Borden's upstairs. My grandparents owned 2 different restaurants downtown, one was a White Castle in the '50's (before my time) and another was also called Markie's and I vaguely remember it. It was there in the from around 1960-68. I wonder if anyone remembers those...
My favorite when I was a kid was Casa Bonita (even though the food was pretty bad). I also remember a place downtown. It may have been called Duffy's?? They had these great deep-fried grilled cheese sandwiches.
I don't remember Markies, but I remember a "Silver Castle" from back in the mid sixties over by Whittier Square. That Borden's was probably on Admiral rather than 11th & Sheridan. Time fuzzes things up!
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I also remember a place downtown. It may have been called Duffy's?? They had these great deep-fried grilled cheese sandwiches.
Downtown at 5th & Main on the ground floor and mezzanine of the Mayo Building used to be a King's Food Host restaurant. There was also a King's Food Host on Sheridan (or maybe Memorial) by the BA expressway. They used to serve deep-fried cheese sandwiches called a "Cheese Frenchie." I remember them well.
Anyone remember the Scandia House smorgasbord restaurant at 51st & Harvard in Country Club Plaza? Popular in the 1960's, it was probably one of Tulsa's first "all you can eat" buffet style eateries. I remember it was on the corner of the strip, directly across from the Fox theater.
There was a Smorgasbord at 51 and Harvard where Benihana was later.
I remember going there in the 60s. I think the name was "The Scandia House."
+1 on King's Food Host. There was one at 31st and Sheridan where QT is now. It had a drive in as well as sit-down. Ordered on a phone like Across the Street / Ma Bells/
In addition to Cheese Frenchie, they also had Tuna Frenchie.
http://www.ames.lib.ia.us/farwell/Publication/Pub10122.htm
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Originally posted by Sallyh
About this cafeteria I'm trying to remember, I forgot to say that it wasn't a chain cafeteria, so it wasn't Furr's or any of the common names of cafeterias. I'm thinking it was a foreign name, but I might be wrong about that, too.
Picadilly? I know that is probably foreign to okies.[}:)]
Can't be all that foreign considering there has been one at 4003 E 51st for the whole time I have lived here. But I forget, you don't come north of 71st, so therefore it is foreign land to you Inteller. Piccadilly in Tulsa (//%22https://www.piccadilly.com/locations/locationresults.asp?state=OK%22)
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Originally posted by Sallyh
About this cafeteria I'm trying to remember, I forgot to say that it wasn't a chain cafeteria, so it wasn't Furr's or any of the common names of cafeterias. I'm thinking it was a foreign name, but I might be wrong about that, too.
I have lived here since 1957, and the cafeterias I remember in Tulsa were:
Borden's - multiple locations around town
Mayo Meadow Cafeteria - 21st & Yale in the now demolished center, in the spot before the Ming Palace
Picadilly - multiple locations
Luby's
Danner's Cafeteria - in Utica Square, later became the Furr's location I think and then Peppers
Furr's - with the lady playing pop standards on the Hammond organ for your dining enjoyment (at least they did at the Utica Square location)
And other early buffet type places such as Scandia House (51st & Harvard) and the Black Gold Buffet (22 & Memorial)
There is Bishop's at 41st and Garnett.
Someone mentioned in a post WAYYY back in this thread Harden's Chicken. I worked at the one Roy ran out at 193rd and Admiral for a while. I know at one point after it closed it became part of the RV dealership, but now I think QT has taken up part of that space.
I remember eating at Crystal's Pizza. Wasn't there actually a fire that gutted the place back in the 80s? There are so many other places I just can't name them.
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Someone mentioned in a post WAYYY back in this thread Harden's Chicken. I worked at the one Roy ran out at 193rd and Admiral for a while. I know at one point after it closed it became part of the RV dealership, but now I think QT has taken up part of that space.
I remember eating at Crystal's Pizza. Wasn't there actually a fire that gutted the place back in the 80s? There are so many other places I just can't name them.
I loved Crystals, especially those breadsticks with the awful cheese sauce. And the thin crust pizza too. Yum. However, I was like 10, so it sould be deluded memories.
Thin crust pepperoni pizza-like Ken's- always brings me back to being a kid after a softball game!
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Originally posted by whoisjongalt
I also remember a place downtown. It may have been called Duffy's?? They had these great deep-fried grilled cheese sandwiches.
Downtown at 5th & Main on the ground floor and mezzanine of the Mayo Building used to be a King's Food Host restaurant. There was also a King's Food Host on Sheridan (or maybe Memorial) by the BA expressway. They used to serve deep-fried cheese sandwiches called a "Cheese Frenchie." I remember them well.
Anyone remember the Scandia House smorgasbord restaurant at 51st & Harvard in Country Club Plaza? Popular in the 1960's, it was probably one of Tulsa's first "all you can eat" buffet style eateries. I remember it was on the corner of the strip, directly across from the Fox theater.
King's at 31st & Sheridan had phones at the booths. My mom finally gave up trying to take us kids there. We'd slip off to other booths and crank-call the kitchen:
"Hi, uh, I'd like one fartburger please with extra cheese!"
This is a really great thread with lots of neat photos. Let's see...I grew in Tulsa from 1967 to 1975, so here are some restaurants that I believe are gone now.
* Ma Bell's....this was a hamburger restaurant on Yale, across from Lafortune (sp?) park where each booth had a phone for ordering, right?
* We used to eat a lot at this Italian restaurant at London Square shopping center...is that Villa Venice that was referred frequently in this thread?
* Garden (not sure if I got the name right) -- an old lady's type of restaurant in Utica. (I don't think that type of restaurant exists anywhere anymore? :-) )
* Steak and Ale. I know this was just a chain restaurant, but when it opened back in early 70's, it was a big deal because Tulsa was mostly cafeterias and fast food places back then.
* Sunday brunch buffet at the Mayo hotel. We'd use to go there many Sundays after church. Great food -- carved roast beef and the like. It was also my introduction to gourmet foods. :-)
* The fine dining room at Tulsa's airport. I don't know what it was called, but on some Sundays, we'd go there to eat and watch airplanes take off and land.
* There was a Mexican restaurant (I'm not sure but this *might* be an El Chico or El Charrito) soemwhere in that area between the river and Harvard, off 51st. Do anyone remember this?
-- Angeli, Houston, TX
Runt's BBQ in B.A.(closed 1/19/09) by Bass Pro (never ate there myself must admit)
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Originally posted by sabasushi
This is a really great thread with lots of neat photos. Let's see...I grew in Tulsa from 1967 to 1975, so here are some restaurants that I believe are gone now.
* Ma Bell's....this was a hamburger restaurant on Yale, across from Lafortune (sp?) park where each booth had a phone for ordering, right?
Yeah, this one is gone. Used to love to go there when I was in high school. Dolly's Delight was the dessert of choice.
* We used to eat a lot at this Italian restaurant at London Square shopping center...is that Villa Venice that was referred frequently in this thread?
I think this was Italian Inn. One nite, my wife and I ate like pigs, drank like sailors and threw it all up less than a half mile away.
* Garden (not sure if I got the name right) -- an old lady's type of restaurant in Utica. (I don't think that type of restaurant exists anywhere anymore? :-) )
This might be the Tea Room.
* Steak and Ale. I know this was just a chain restaurant, but when it opened back in early 70's, it was a big deal because Tulsa was mostly cafeterias and fast food places back then.
Still there. Probably same carpets, table cloths and menu. Used to be "the" place to take a client in the 70's.
* Sunday brunch buffet at the Mayo hotel. We'd use to go there many Sundays after church. Great food -- carved roast beef and the like. It was also my introduction to gourmet foods. :-)
We had our senior dinner/prom there in '69. Still standing but being remodeled into...something,...sometime.
* The fine dining room at Tulsa's airport. I don't know what it was called, but on some Sundays, we'd go there to eat and watch airplanes take off and land.
This was pleasant to hear about again and kind of bittersweet. I took my girlfriend there for a special dinner in 1969. Believe it or not that was one of the best places in town, that's how small a town we were. Good food too.
* There was a Mexican restaurant (I'm not sure but this *might* be an El Chico or El Charrito) soemwhere in that area between the river and Harvard, off 51st. Do anyone remember this?
Yes! Its still there. It may have originally been the sister restaurant to El Charrito at 18th & Boston which was my favorite and is now closed. Either my tastes changed or they did. But we always loved their soft tortillas with butter, wrapped around spicy carrots and peppers.
I'm guessing we were probably at these restaurants around the same time. Do you remember seeing a geeky looking skinny kid with auburn red hair and who always had good looking women on his arm? [:D]
-- Angeli, Houston, TX
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Originally posted by ARGUS
Runt's BBQ in B.A.(closed 1/19/09) by Bass Pro (never ate there myself must admit)
You didn't miss much imo.
Not the best BBQ but sad to see the area lose a restaurant.
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Originally posted by Composer
Not the best BBQ but sad to see the area lose a restaurant.
I agree but I was underwhelmed when I went there.
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Originally posted by sabasushi
This is a really great thread with lots of neat photos. Let's see...I grew in Tulsa from 1967 to 1975, so here are some restaurants that I believe are gone now.
* Ma Bell's....this was a hamburger restaurant on Yale, across from Lafortune (sp?) park where each booth had a phone for ordering, right?
* We used to eat a lot at this Italian restaurant at London Square shopping center...is that Villa Venice that was referred frequently in this thread?
* Garden (not sure if I got the name right) -- an old lady's type of restaurant in Utica. (I don't think that type of restaurant exists anywhere anymore? :-) )
* Steak and Ale. I know this was just a chain restaurant, but when it opened back in early 70's, it was a big deal because Tulsa was mostly cafeterias and fast food places back then.
* Sunday brunch buffet at the Mayo hotel. We'd use to go there many Sundays after church. Great food -- carved roast beef and the like. It was also my introduction to gourmet foods. :-)
* The fine dining room at Tulsa's airport. I don't know what it was called, but on some Sundays, we'd go there to eat and watch airplanes take off and land.
* There was a Mexican restaurant (I'm not sure but this *might* be an El Chico or El Charrito) soemwhere in that area between the river and Harvard, off 51st. Do anyone remember this?
-- Angeli, Houston, TX
See, now that you say you're from my temporary home (Houston), I miss some of their restaraunts. Especially the Ragin' Cajun on Richmond just inside the Loop. Oh how I loved their jambalaya and gumbo. Then I moved way north (towards Bammel/1960) and aside from Ninfa's, there wasn't much out that way.
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Originally posted by sabasushi
* We used to eat a lot at this Italian restaurant at London Square shopping center...is that Villa Venice that was referred frequently in this thread?
I think this was Italian Inn. One nite, my wife and I ate like pigs, drank like sailors and threw it all up less than a half mile away.
Italian Inn! That definitely sounds right.
* Steak and Ale. I know this was just a chain restaurant, but when it opened back in early 70's, it was a big deal because Tulsa was mostly cafeterias and fast food places back then.
Still there. Probably same carpets, table cloths and menu. Used to be "the" place to take a client in the 70's.
Oh, really? I had assumed Steak and Ale closed everywhere, which is why I had included it in this thread. :-) Anyway, one thing I remember about that restaurant was that it was the first time I'd ever seen a salad bar.
* The fine dining room at Tulsa's airport. I don't know what it was called, but on some Sundays, we'd go there to eat and watch airplanes take off and land.
This was pleasant to hear about again and kind of bittersweet. I took my girlfriend there for a special dinner in 1969. Believe it or not that was one of the best places in town, that's how small a town we were. Good food too.
Hard to believe that one'd want to go to an AIRPORT just to eat back then. Sadly, airports are bascially glorified bus stations these days.
* There was a Mexican restaurant (I'm not sure but this *might* be an El Chico or El Charrito) soemwhere in that area between the river and Harvard, off 51st. Do anyone remember this?
Yes! Its still there. It may have originally been the sister restaurant to El Charrito at 18th & Boston which was my favorite and is now closed. Either my tastes changed or they did. But we always loved their soft tortillas with butter, wrapped around spicy carrots and peppers.[/size]
Any idea what its location was, so I can look at this building via "map porn" (Google Maps or Live Maps)? As I recall, it was an one-story building with a breezeway leading back to the parking lot.
I'm guessing we were probably at these restaurants around the same time. Do you remember seeing a geeky looking skinny kid with auburn red hair and who always had good looking women on his arm? [:D]
Ha! I don't know...I suspect I would have been way underage for you, since I'm 43 now. :-)
Maybe this isn't the right thread since the name of the thread did say BEST, but here it goes. Mom told me about one Mexican restaurant somewhere on Peoria in late 1960's or early 1970's that had an "all you can eat" deal going on. However, the catch was that you had to clean your plate before you could get more food. As it happened, they had really bad refried beans, so customers'd try to hide the beans in napkins, under plates, et cetera. :-) Anyone know what this restaurant was, and what was it called?
I don't remember an all you can eat Mexican in Brookside. The El Chico is on the north side of 51st just west of Lewis Avenue. Been there at least since the 70's. The old El Charrito was across from the Mapco building(Spirit Bank now) at 18th & Main.
As a child we toured the first jetliners that visited the Tulsa Airport and marveled at them. I think they were Boeing 707's. Tulsa was quite proud then. Flying was a formal adventure so it was a big deal to eat at the airport restaurant.
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Originally posted by waterboy
I don't remember an all you can eat Mexican in Brookside. The El Chico is on the north side of 51st just west of Lewis Avenue. Been there at least since the 70's. The old El Charrito was across from the Mapco building(Spirit Bank now) at 18th & Main.
Hmm...I took a look at the El Chico restaurant on 51st via maps.live.com, and I don't know...it doesn't look like the place I remembered, unless it underwent some major renovation since 70's. Maybe it was a different restaurant, who knows? By the way, my husband and I ate at one of the El Chico's when we were visiting Tulsa several years ago, and we weren't very impressed with the food. For example, the tamale was the canned kind, which was odd to see in a restaurant.
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Originally posted by sabasushi
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Originally posted by waterboy
I don't remember an all you can eat Mexican in Brookside. The El Chico is on the north side of 51st just west of Lewis Avenue. Been there at least since the 70's. The old El Charrito was across from the Mapco building(Spirit Bank now) at 18th & Main.
Hmm...I took a look at the El Chico restaurant on 51st via maps.live.com, and I don't know...it doesn't look like the place I remembered, unless it underwent some major renovation since 70's. Maybe it was a different restaurant, who knows? By the way, my husband and I ate at one of the El Chico's when we were visiting Tulsa several years ago, and we weren't very impressed with the food. For example, the tamale was the canned kind, which was odd to see in a restaurant.
They were remodeled in the 80's to look more Mexican. Chico is a good place to start with Mexican food. Its a lot like cafeteria food. Brookside has some good Mexican restaurants, Whittier Square and Downtown as well.
Anyone know if White Rabbit Deli has already gone T/U?
I drove past about 11:40 today, looked pretty dark.
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Originally posted by Conan71
Anyone know if White Rabbit Deli has already gone T/U?
I drove past about 11:40 today, looked pretty dark.
Just called their number and got an answering machine...that's a little odd considering their hours were stated as open til 3 pm on weekdays.
Sign on the door says "Temporarily closed starting Jan 12 for renovations...."