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Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Rowdy on October 17, 2007, 07:06:47 pm After storm, over 20 people hurt and a Triage is being set up there.
Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: tulsa1603 on October 17, 2007, 07:17:06 pm I was there. Just got home. Very scary. The main tent and a secondary tent both collapsed. I was in the secondary tent (the one north of the main tent) when it started collapsing. The large poles were falling all over the place. I ducked under a cart and covered my head like we were taught in school....I saw a few people with bloody faces, and I heard people screaming about a man with a broken leg...I hope no one was killed. Those poles could definitely cause damage. [:O]
Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: CoffeeBean on October 17, 2007, 07:18:31 pm 38 - 40 injured.
Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: CRZ on October 17, 2007, 07:25:12 pm My back porch(westport) overlooks the octoberfest festivities. I could hear the wind picking up and went outside to see what was going on. What I saw was amazing, the main tent was flapping in the wind like a flag. Everything seemed to be going sideways.
I feel for anyone that was inside. Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: RecycleMichael on October 17, 2007, 08:30:08 pm I go to this party every year, but couldn't because of a hospital visit. It is one of the best events in Tulsa.
Let's hope everybody is OK. I am sure Oktoberfest volunteers responded quickly and helped people as fast as possible. I used to volunteer at this festival and it is one of the best prepared volunteer corps around. Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: patric on October 17, 2007, 09:44:21 pm (TULSA, Okla.) October 17 – Tonight’s storm causes a tent collapse at Oktoberfest, injuring about 40 people.
Police say 21 people were transported to the hospital, while others were treated at a triage center at Oktoberfest. Oktoberfest is closed tonight, but will be open tomorrow. Police believe the tent collapsed from water build-up. Video: http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=5822e804-09d4-4863-90c6-b434837f674c Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: CoffeeBean on October 17, 2007, 11:05:24 pm I'm pretty sure it didn't collapse so much as it blew away pulling out the poles as it went.
Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: tulsa1603 on October 17, 2007, 11:33:20 pm quote: I agree. From inside, it looked like the roof lifted up, then the poles started coming out of the ground and falling over.. If you look at the pictures on the Tulsa World website, you can see where the main tent was picked up and moved over, exposing about half of the picnic tables. Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: cannon_fodder on October 18, 2007, 07:10:57 am FYI this was all over CNN and the Today Show according to friends of mine. Everyone but one person was released, they are in "critical" condition. Most were injured by the poles coming down on them.
The Tulsa World has a good photo exposition on it a hera: http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2007/slideshows/octfest/index.html However... the beer must flow. Operations are set to open tonight at 5pm sans Das Bier Garten. NO giant tent, that makes me sad. Study mother nature. Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Townsend on October 18, 2007, 08:50:43 am Two of my friends hid in one of the many port-a-johns during the hail.
Any port in a storm. They said they were poo free after the storm. Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Conan71 on October 18, 2007, 09:49:02 am I was driving down Riverside between 41st & 21st right at the time the storm front hit. Damn glad I was in my truck and not a tent.
There wasn't near as much water to contend with as there was wind. 60 MPH wind will tip a mobile home over- and will collapse a tent. Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: patric on October 18, 2007, 10:13:17 am KOTV is reporting it as a microburst, as opposed to the "water buildup" attributed to police spokesmen.
Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Conan71 on October 18, 2007, 10:49:41 am I'm smelling a lawsuit(s). A woman interviewed last night said people were turned away from shelter in another tent by festival officials or security.
"They were more concerned about protecting their beer than festival patrons." Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Breadburner on October 18, 2007, 11:28:26 am quote: They were trying to get out of the hail......Hard to believe they were turned away....Very poor judgement on someones part.....A friend of mine was conked by a pole but is ok..... Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: guido911 on October 18, 2007, 11:32:47 am quote: Hmmm...Sounds like an affirmative defense Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: LilMikey on October 18, 2007, 11:35:56 am In spite of a tornado warning, less han favorable forecasts made as early as the morning of the event, the only tradgey I see is the amount of "adults" who were willing to stand under a large tent just to drink beer during such weather.
Ah . . . . the rednecks live! Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: cannon_fodder on October 18, 2007, 12:33:25 pm Yes, and apparently rednecks abound in Munich too. Dang beer drinking red necks. And that new brewery going in, more rednecks for sure!
Corporate night at Oktoberfest, Rednecks galore. [;)] Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Townsend on October 18, 2007, 12:37:53 pm "Just to drink beer"? "just to drink beer"? JUST TO DRINK BEER?
Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: NellieBly on October 18, 2007, 12:51:55 pm One of the places people were denied access to was the area of the festival where the money was. People who were hurt were allowed in and no one else was. People were trying to get into the beer sale tent to get out of the rain and they were denied entry due to safety and theft concerns I believe.
There were a ton of people, women especially, who were not prepared to be out in the rain. No coats, umbrellas, wearing halter tops and high heel pumps. Despite all day weather reports of rain on its way, they were not prepared. At that point the tent was down and it was rain and hail. That means it's time to head to the car. I left before the storm hit cause you could see it coming. I had no desire to huddle under a tent in a storm. About two minutes after we got in the car the storm hit. I feel sorry for the people who were hurt but not for the people stuck in the rain in halters and high heels wanting to keep their cell phones and hair dry. There were people standing around wanting to buy beer after the tent blew down. Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Ibanez on October 18, 2007, 12:55:12 pm quote: Say goodbye to Tulsa's Oktoberfest as we know it. Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: LilMikey on October 18, 2007, 12:59:15 pm Yep - we might have to go back to drinking beer in bars.
Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Townsend on October 18, 2007, 01:04:14 pm from Oktoberfest committee,
"The Bier Garten (the larger of the two tents) will now be an open-air venue with a canopy over the band and dance floor. The other tent, Die Bier Stube is salvageable and will be up and running as well if not tonight, tomorrow for sure." Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Conan71 on October 18, 2007, 01:14:35 pm quote: Bier Al Fresco. Cool! Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Ibanez on October 18, 2007, 01:27:46 pm quote: Excellent. Now everyone will be able to see me dancing on the table!!! Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: bigdtottown on October 19, 2007, 08:11:53 am I really hope there is not an over reaction to this tragic accident and I hope eveyone who was injured gets well soon. Tulsa's Octoberfest is one of the best around and it needs to continue. Ufortunately, with our litigious nature here in the US, I can see some may want to capitalize on this.
Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: tim huntzinger on October 19, 2007, 08:14:52 am If Jim Giles were around, I feel confident he would have sounded some alarm as the storm approached.
Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: waterboy on October 19, 2007, 08:50:12 am quote: I agree. No excuse in this day of pinpoint radar accuracy for them not temporarily closing the tents. It was a poor decision. The micro-burst is an attempt at a plausible defense but is weak. That "burst" continued across my neighborhood to the east and continued through Claremore. Friends of mine said the storm was clearly visible on their evening weather updates and was why they didn't attend the festivities. Face it. They didn't want to close up during Corporate Night with all the sponsors, the beer and the money. The festival has had declining attendance in recent years because of weather and exhorbitant beer prices and I would bet that was the criteria for not closing...not the safety of its patrons. It backfired and they will have to pay a price. More precisely, we will all pay the price. Insurance will pay out and similar festivals will have their rates adjusted upwards and that will be passed on to the consumer. Its either absorbed by us or the festival fails. Hopefully it will survive. Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: Conan71 on October 19, 2007, 09:11:18 am Heck, even Travis Meyer was saying on the news Tuesday night that people might want to consider the predicted storms for Weds. night before heading out to Oktoberfest.
They had plenty of warning, and it's certainly not the first thunderstorm to hit during Oktoberfest. In any event, it's a no win situation for organizers. The choice was to send festival-goers to their vehicles with a severe thunderstorm approaching, or stay under tents which have withstood thunderstorms in the past. That'd be a tough call, glad I'm not the person who was responsible for making it. From Fox 23: "Tonight, questions remain, could this disaster have been prevented? Why didn't organizers cancel the event, knowing severe weather was approaching, this after a storm had just swept through the area just hours before. “We knew there was something behind it, but we had some information that it might bypass us. Our executive director had a direct line to one of our TV stations, so we had access to that information”, said event organizer Michael Sanders. The National Weather Service reported storms were on the way. In fact, a tornado watch was in affect for Tulsa County and a severe thunderstorm warning was issued 20 minutes before the tent collapsed. FOX23 was putting out warnings at 5:17 p.m. The result was 60 mile per hour winds, strong enough to snap rope and bend steel beams in half, send them flying through the air, injuring 32 people. FOX23 News was told it’s up to event organizers whether or not Oktoberfest stays open. Mayor Taylor and event organizers say they haven’t heard anything about any possible lawsuits." Source (http://"http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=f10a9971-8e7a-4562-b07b-fb992094dd09&rss=77") Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: shadows on October 19, 2007, 10:10:54 am I e-mailed Giles on one of his failed weather predictions.
I received a return e-mail saying “I hope you have a job as hard as predicting the weather”. Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: tim huntzinger on October 19, 2007, 10:25:52 am Newly departed-from-this-world are like babies and they kind of flail about, getting used to their new bodies. Sooooo I think the winds were Jim trying to visit again and simply making an awkward entrance . . .
Title: Main Tent Collapses at Octoberfest Post by: tim huntzinger on October 19, 2007, 12:04:09 pm Story picked up by FARK (http://"http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3144003"), stupid farkers diss Tulsans, Okies.
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