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Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: FOTD on November 25, 2007, 01:43:05 pm YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE!
1. Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton 2. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's Daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion. 3. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony. 4. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq . 5. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multinational drug corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation. 6. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay. 7. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex. 8. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our longtime allies, then demand their cooperation and money. 9. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care to all Americans is socialism. HMO's and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart. 10. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools. 11. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy. 12. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet. 13. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business. 14. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery. 15. Supporting "Executive Privilege" for every Republican ever born, who will be born or who might be born (in perpetuity.) 16. What Bill Clinton did in the 1960's is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80's is irrelevant. 17. Support for hunters who shoot their friends and blame them for wearing orange vests similar to those worn by the quail. Friends don't let friends vote Republican Have at it..... Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Rico on November 25, 2007, 09:21:18 pm That was very funny....[:D]
However............I don't feel stupidity can be monopolized by one political party.. That is exactly why I feel that individuals that vote "Party Lines", Instead of the facts, are beyond stupid... They are hypocrites.... Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: rwarn17588 on November 26, 2007, 01:58:10 am I'm starting to think FOTD and jamesrage are lovers ... kinda like James Carville and Mary Matalin.
You know ... opposites attract. They also share one thing in common -- not a lot of nuance or subtlety in their arguments. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: sgrizzle on November 26, 2007, 06:45:15 am Hooray stereotypes!
(http://www.saynotocrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/cat-saying-hooray.jpg) Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: cannon_fodder on November 26, 2007, 12:05:29 pm I'll grade it on how funny/accurate each comment is:
1. Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton B (Kinda has become the Jesus party, or at least billed as such) 2. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's Daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion. C+ (point has merit, wording not funny and over done) 3. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony. B+ (decent point) 4. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq . C- (some truth, but leaving the UN is not really a platform issue) 5. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multinational drug corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation. D (the regulation in question is price regulation... which is not really a safety issue: FDA) 6. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay. D (I hate the government notion of "slashing" meaning less than the requested increase) 7. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex. B+ (should have been "if we tell them not to, teenagers won't have sex.") 8. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our longtime allies, then demand their cooperation and money. C+ (by "Allies" I guess he means France) 9. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care to all Americans is socialism. HMO's and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart. C (good try, but only marginal at making the point) 10. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools. C+ (tobacco link was long given up and was a Southern thing, not a republican thing. Could have worked in Creationism and science better and funnier) 11. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy. D- (Bush lied! Not only is it over done, but there is an outstanding reward for anyone who can prove where he lief in re the war) 12. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet. A- (limited government: unless we are in charge) 13. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business. B+ (did they try to hide the driving record?) 14. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery. B+ (news flash: talking heads of all persuasions are hypocrites) 15. Supporting "Executive Privilege" for every Republican ever born, who will be born or who might be born (in perpetuity.) B+ (sometimes Bush was right in this argument, but overplayed the card) 16. What Bill Clinton did in the 1960's is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80's is irrelevant. B (Clinton inhaled, Bush finished the bottle) 17. Support for hunters who shoot their friends and blame them for wearing orange vests similar to those worn by the quail. C (C for the effort, could have made the Dick hunting joked way funnier) Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Hometown on November 26, 2007, 12:35:58 pm Thank you FOTD, I thought we had something in common. Now I know we do. Since 1980 the Republican Party has come close to destroying everything we cherish about life in the United States. You’ve touched on many of the highlights but it is an incomplete list, so staggering are their many crimes. It would probably come as a shock to provincial little old Tulsa that Republicans are arguably the most disliked group of people in the World.
Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: iplaw on November 26, 2007, 12:44:10 pm quote: [}:)] Thanks for the laugh. I needed that. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: sgrizzle on November 26, 2007, 01:48:52 pm I kinda thought the whole point was to keep things the way they were in 1980...
Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Double A on November 26, 2007, 11:40:47 pm This list does not include Republican perverts like Senator Larry "Wide Guy" Craig, Senator David "diaper-wearing whoremonger" Vitter, or defrocked but now claiming to be cured preacher and lover of male prostitutes, Ted Haggard. The garden variety Republican perverts can be addressed in future installments.
This rogue's gallery only deals with the serious problem of pedophiles in the Republican Party. Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a five year old girl. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an Assistant U.S. Attorney appointed by Republican Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages twelve and fifteen. Republican Mayor and presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hired Monsignor Alan Placa, a close friend, after the Catholic priest was removed when charges surfaced that he'd been molesting young boys at his parish residence. Monsignor Placa also had a role in covering up the sexual crimes of other priests, according to a grand jury. The grand jury also stated that Monsignor Placa had employed deception and intimidation to keep the allegations from the light of day. He remains on the staff and payroll of Giuliani's consulting firm. Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of sixteen. Republican city councilman Joseph Montelone, Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls. Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a fourteen year old boy. Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of eight and thirteen. Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from thirteen year old girls. Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys, ages ten and twelve, during a six year period. Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a fourteen year old girl, then killed himself three days later. Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after sexually explicit e-mails surfaced showing him targeting a sixteen year old boy. Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives Dennis Hastert, who led the Republican cover-up of Mark Foley's predatory conduct, has announced his resignation from Congress and will not complete his current term. Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a thirteen year old girl on the internet. Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition, Lou Beres, confessed to molesting a thirteen year old girl. Republican County Constable, Larry Dale Floyd, pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an eight year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable. Republican judge, Mark Pazuhanich, pleaded no contest to fondling a ten year old girl and was sentenced to ten years probation. Republican Party leader, Bobby Stumbo, was arrested for having sex with a five year old boy. Republican petition drive manager, Tom Randall, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of fourteen, one of them the daughter of an associated in the petition business. Republican County Chairman, Armando Tebano, pleaded guilty to fondling a fourteen year old girl. Republican teacher and former city councilman, John Collins, pleaded guilty to sexually molesting thirteen and fourteen year old girls. Republican campaign worker, Mark Seidensticker, is a convicted child molester. Republican Mayor, Philip Giordano, is serving a thirty-seven year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing eight and ten year old girls. Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet. Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two fifteen year old girls. Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of eleven and was sentenced to eight years in prison. Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to ten years in prison for raping his daughter repeatedly between the ages of nine and seventeen. Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to eighteen months in prison. Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida. Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an eleven year old girl he murdered. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a fifteen year old girl. Republican racist, pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a fifteen year old black girl which produced a child. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a thirteen year old girl. Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two eight year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial for George W. Bush. Republican fundraiser Lawrence F. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980's. Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980's. Republican Congressman Donald "Buz: Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child pornography charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexually explicit photos. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen was convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. Five years later he was arrested again on the same charge. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step-daughter. Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer. Republican Congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a sixteen year old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a five year old girl being raped. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police and charged with four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a twelve year old boy and possession of child pornography. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his twelve year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to a prison term after his conviction for offering $20 to a fourteen year old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an eleven year old girl. Republican anti-gay activist Earl ?gButch?h Kimmerling was sentenced to forty years in prison for molesting an eight year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served fourteen years in federal prison. Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a fourteen year old girl. Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a thirteen year old boy. Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of sixteen (i.e. intentionally exposing himself to children). Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a fifteen year old girl. Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl. Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters. Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a thirteen year old girl. Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a fifteen year old girl and served six months in prison. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to thirty months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five felony counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a ?ggood military man and church goer?h, was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an eleven year old girl and sentenced to twelve years in prison. Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter. Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed "reverend" Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls. Republican director of the ?gYoung Republican Federation?h Nicholas Elizondo molested his six year old daughter and sentenced to six years in prison. Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corporation Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a fifteen year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: altruismsuffers on November 27, 2007, 12:21:33 am all you have to be is truthful and brave. (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWXLyNe48bI")
Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: iplaw on November 27, 2007, 08:16:05 am Holy sh%t...are we back to this game again? Who's going to be the first one to put up a list of pervert Democrats?
The only ones ignorant enough to play this game is probably the same ignorant people who think this list of Republicans is an exclusive one... Grow up folks and open your eyes. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: cannon_fodder on November 27, 2007, 10:20:47 am I wanted to see how old some of those were so I Googled them... I couldn't even find many of them on Google. So I kept going down the list...
quote:[}:)] "Republican County Board Candidate." So now if you consider running for county office and are republican and a pervert it counts as a scandal? "advertising consultant" "anti-abortion activist" - not even an elected party member. "legislative aide" "Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives Dennis Hastert" - he is guilty because he was the speaker when Foley got caught being a pervert. A "serious problem" to be sure. "politician " - not elected to anything "fundraiser " "strategist and Citadel Military College graduate" "strategist" "benefactor " "businessman" "parole board officer" "campaign worker" - are you serious? How desperate was this person to grow the list. - - - This list includes not only politicians and actual representatives of the Republican Party, but ANYONE who has ever had any affiliation with the party: The Unibomber Heavens Gate Jim Jones David Koresh John Wayne Gacy Charlie Manson OMG!!!11!one!eleven!! All were registered democrats. I better start a website to track them. No party has a monopoly on being asshats. But this list is just a joke. When you list "campaign worker" as a "serious problem" then it is laughable. I'm actually surprised the list is not larger given the 40% of the country that is Republican that they had to draw from. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Conan71 on November 27, 2007, 10:42:51 am CF, I think the point to be learned from AA is that it's cool to be a pervert if you are a Democrat, but the hypocracy of a Republican doing it is far, far worse. Get a rope...
...and get me Marion Berry's phone number, I'm out of crack. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Friendly Bear on November 27, 2007, 11:23:11 am quote: The Washington Post reports today that 17 GOP Congressmen, and 6 GOP Senators are retiring and not running for re-election. Only five Democrat members of the House are stepping down or running for higher office in 2008, but none of the vacated seats is expected to be competitive. No Senate Democrat up for reelection this cycle has announced plans to retire. Methinks the GOP pols see a Democrat land-slide of the likes of the GOP 1994 Congressional Landslide coming, and they want to get out while the getting-out is still good. The Iraq War, 4,000 American soldiers dead, $800 billion in national treasure consumed, $95 per bbl. oil & $3.00 gallon gasoline, the Oil companies showing record profits who just happen to be Bush and Cheney's Good Buddies, a war tailor-made to enrich Halliburton, a stagnating economy, plummeting home values, sky-rocketing foreclosures, and all brought to you under the leadership of Mad King George Bush II, which will sink the GOP next November like an iceberg sank the Titanic.... The GOP'ers are running for the exits, and there aren't enough life boats. Lower Away! [:X] Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: FOTD on November 27, 2007, 02:59:46 pm One Of You Shall Betray Conservatism
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66048309@N00/2064677321/ Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: iplaw on November 27, 2007, 03:55:17 pm quote: [}:)] This thread just keeps getting funnier and funnier...keep up the good work! Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Double A on November 27, 2007, 04:11:39 pm quote: Whatever makes you more comfortable in your state of denial about the dysfunctional GOP. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: cannon_fodder on November 27, 2007, 04:15:54 pm Wait! I thought this was a war for oil? Now it is a war to crimp the supply of oil thus raising prices and grossing higher returns for oil companies?
Given that logic, no matter what the outcome or reasoning for the war - you get to crow foul on the oil companies. No war? Then obviously they are working with Saddam and that's why we refused to attack. Independent Peaceful Iraq? Clearly it was just setup to sell cheap oil to Bushes friends! War going poorly? Clearly it was staged so oil prices would rise! Full pullout? Obviously an attempt to further destabilize the area and drive up the price of oil! Military buildup? More American lives at risk to protect their oil! What, in the hell, is the correct course of action here that would not garner more conspiracy theories? None. So screw it. You morons have given Bush a blank check to do whatever he wants. No matter what you are going to howl and gnash your teeth, so screw it. Thanks for that. Those of us that only blame Bush for his plethora of stupid decisions are mitigated by you. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Hometown on November 27, 2007, 07:47:01 pm It’s Iplaw and the Reaganites, Tulsa’s own 80s Nostalgia band.
Little Gippers humming and strumming a verse of decades gone. Your morning in America came and went, it’s well past noon and your capital spent. The time has come and gone for “something for nothing, deficit spending and Mr. Laffler’s curve.” Oh stay on message my shameful foes and behold, everything must pass. Glory hallelujah! Tick Tock Tick Tock. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Double A on November 28, 2007, 12:04:38 am (http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p315/TYProle/346204613_m.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p315/TYProle/images-9.jpg) Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: iplaw on November 28, 2007, 08:43:32 am Wow...this is all very sophisticated...
AA, can you even define the term fascism? Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: cannon_fodder on November 28, 2007, 08:43:48 am Double A, do you know what fascism is?
Strong state control of society AND the economy with a belief that the State is the most important entity (more important than the individual), often with hostility towards religion. While certainly Bush has been a strong proponent of powerful government and arguably squashing individual rights, he has been far from controlling of the economy (see CAFTA) and definitely not anti religious. He has made no attempt at dictatorial powers nor state control of companies. The fact that a democratic Congress was elected is a strong indication that a fascist is not in power. The fact that he signed CAFTA. The fact that capitalism has expanded. The fact that he attempted to privatize SS and wants to keep medicine private (what faster way to grow government than nationalize health care?). Anyway, kudos on clever clip art. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: iplaw on November 28, 2007, 10:23:46 am quote:I suppose it's clever. You can find those pictures on any 9/11 conspiracy site. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Breadburner on November 28, 2007, 10:49:46 am quote: Is what you have in common you're both older bourgeois homo-sexuals.... Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: FOTD on November 28, 2007, 11:45:40 am quote: Wow. How self revealing, burner. You're right up there with the other's in your political following. See number 1. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Hometown on November 28, 2007, 12:23:45 pm Breadburner, you have mentioned my sexuality in the last five posts that you have directed at me. The fact that you have fixated on this well known fact leads me to believe that you have issues with your own sexuality. But you’ve never revealed much about yourself. Come on Breadburner, take the plunge and share a little something with us.
Back at the ranch. Maybe we can agree that both Republicans and Democrats work for the upper class. But there is a significant difference: Rich Democrats care about the health of their communities. They see their own prosperity intrinsically linked to the prosperity and health of their communities. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: iplaw on November 28, 2007, 01:44:42 pm quote:Is that why, in virtually every survey taken, Republicans out give Democrats in charitable contributions nationwide? I guess Democrats care, until it impacts their pocket book... Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: cannon_fodder on November 28, 2007, 02:12:43 pm The notion that group A hates people and group B loves people exemplifies that your political ideology is more akin to religion. That is to say it is a belief that you hold rather than a justified position.
Democrats are all warm and fuzzy and care about people. Republicans are cold and evil and hate every thing. Wow, just that easy. Amazing that 40% of the country is cold, evil and hateful. Amazing still that even when the 40% that are fuzzy are in charge things still suck, there are still scandals, and nothing really changes. If you are that closed minded there is little point trying to intelligently discuss with you. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Breadburner on November 28, 2007, 04:48:35 pm quote: Hey..He was the one that brought it up....I was just asking a simple question....Not to mention the fact where did I say anything bad about ones sexual preference....Do you have a walk-in closet Ax.... Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Breadburner on November 28, 2007, 04:58:20 pm quote: I'm a Lezbeain...Sorry to disappoint.... Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Double A on November 28, 2007, 05:06:35 pm quote: BB sounds like a textbook Republican self loathing closet case. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Chicken Little on November 28, 2007, 05:11:14 pm quote:No. From 2006 exit polls (http://"http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/income-and-voting/"): quote: A person with money to give would be more likely to vote Republican. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Double A on November 28, 2007, 05:20:02 pm BTW, charitable contributions are a tax deduction. Republicans hate paying their fair share of taxes. Do the math.
Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: iplaw on November 30, 2007, 09:30:27 am quote:Are you hearing impaired? I said that Republicans outgive Democrats in charitable contributions. I didn't say a word about who makes more money. And BTW, Krugman is about as trustworthy as Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Chicken Little on November 30, 2007, 10:11:32 am quote:Are you hearing impaired? I said that Republicans outgive Democrats in charitable contributions. I didn't say a word about who makes more money. And BTW, Krugman is about as trustworthy as Look at your post; don't ask a question if you don't want an answer. You were provided with a rational explanation for the disparity. So much for intelligent discourse. Thanks, pal. As for liberal economist Krugman, when you say he's "untrustworthy", I presume you have some examples. So, let's see 'em. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: azbadpuppy on November 30, 2007, 10:19:50 am quote: The only reason why its higher for Republicans is that 'charitable contributions' include tithing in ones own church. I don't believe being guilted into giving money to politically motivated 'christian' institutions really proves one is more caring about their overall community. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: guido911 on November 30, 2007, 12:18:44 pm quote: Oh that's right. Giving money to our government in the form of taxes so it can carry out its social programs to assist the less fortunate is far more efficient and cost-effective than giving it to churches or Christian organizations. You sound like another typical "have not", so eaten up with envy of wealthier people you make sh#t up like all those that tithe do so out of guilt. Here's an idea, just sit back and enjoy riding the gravy train the already higher tax paying members of society have given the "have nots." Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Hometown on November 30, 2007, 12:44:12 pm To see who cares about the well being of their communities, look at public policy and who originated it and who it benefits.
Like cold old New York, where concern for the well being of the community has been institutionalized and fully funded. Who cares if New Yorkers won't give you the time of day, they know their government institutions will. Talk about a safety net and not a bad place to make a penny or two either. It is (still for now) the World's market place. For my part, I would rather depend on government policy than the kindness of strangers. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: cannon_fodder on November 30, 2007, 02:11:07 pm quote: People always bring this argument up. It is very possibly the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard. You do realize that a tax deduction REDUCES the amount of tax paid by, at most, whatever % would have been taken by tax? So, at best you give away 64% of the money and "save" 36%. Donation of $1,000,000: $360,000 in tax savings $640,000 additional given away So to save $360K in taxes they give away another $640K? There's the damn math. Explain to me how they are saving money by giving away $1,000,000.00? Seriously, if know of a way to make money by giving it away I would love to know. In fact, people would pay you millions of dollars for this mysterious technique. It also begs the question: are democrats too stupid to give away money to make money (I think not)? If they did, they could use the money they make from giving away money to give away more money which would make them more money - which they could give away! Awesome! Super tax loophole where you give away money to get more to give away. Shortly, that leads to infinite wealth. Woohoooo. Do you ever think about the crap you post? Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: azbadpuppy on November 30, 2007, 02:46:06 pm quote: Yeah and giving money to the government so it can spend TRILLIONS of dollars to bomb and kill innocent people is incredibly 'efficient'. Money for social programs is dwindling and will be virtually non existant in the near future if we continue the way the current administration is running things. Keep tithing and praying real hard and maybe you won't become ill or injured, unable to work or support yourself. I don't believe in have's vs have nots. I don't judge myself or others by how much wealth or things someone posesses. I am perfectly comfortable and happy- thanks for caring though. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: guido911 on November 30, 2007, 04:31:05 pm blah blah blah.
Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Chicken Little on November 30, 2007, 04:36:09 pm quote:Impressive. Did you look that one up? Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: guido911 on November 30, 2007, 06:29:33 pm quote: Attached is an exchange between Dana Perino and that mega hottie Helen Thomas, who takes the same idiot position you have taken on our soldiers (who by the way enlist, bleed, and sometimes die so you and others like the courageous Chicken Little can run their mouth) killing innocents http://video1.washingtontimes.com/fishwrap/2007/11/dana_perino_and_helen_thomas_s.html Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Chicken Little on November 30, 2007, 08:18:59 pm Yeah, whatever. Dana Perino attacks an old lady with a claw hammer...awe-inspiring.
quote:Who the f*ck cares about Perino's opinion? She lies for the President...just like the Tone-ster before her...and Scotty...and Ari. A person with honor would never take that job. She's merely the latest good-for-nothing to plant a flag on top of Mount Bullsh*t, and apparently, a sanctimonious blowhard to boot. No wonder you like her. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Double A on November 30, 2007, 08:23:43 pm quote: SNAP! Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: guido911 on December 01, 2007, 08:40:21 am quote: First, I did not realize you had it so bad for Helen Thomas. Second, by your comment, I guess you agree with her premise that all of our soldiers (who when not at war are our neighbors, fathers, mothers, sons, daughters) are in Iraq not fighting to stabilize the region after disposing of a universally recognized dictator or to bring freedom and liberty to millions that have never known it, but instead they are there killing innocent people intentionally and indiscriminately. If that is the case, you are as big a POS as Thomas. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: guido911 on December 01, 2007, 11:41:00 am Oh, and you might be a Republican if you have better mental health than others.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/102943/Republicans-Report-Much-Better-Mental-Health-Than-Others.aspx Sure explains a lot about Hometown, Chicken Little, and FOTD Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Chicken Little on December 01, 2007, 12:11:32 pm quote:First, yes, I do find myself strangely attracted to Helen Thomas in ways that I can't quite explain...and now you know my secret. And second, that's not what Thomas said. Watch the video. What she said is this, "Do you know how many more people we've killed?" and then, "Do you know how many since the start of the war?". She didn't, as you have, load her questions up with words like "intentional", "indiscriminate", or "innocent". Perino did that when she was trying to wriggle out of the question; and that's because Perino is sleazy. So, is Thomas' question a fair one? Sure it is, why not? The only thing being shared publicly and regularly are the number of dead US soldiers and marines. So, how is the average citizen supposed to gauge the progress of the war? Are we simply supposed to believe, without question, everything that Dana says? Scr*w that. Why aren't they providing more detail about those killed insurgents, or those killed by friendly fire or collateral damage? Why aren't they sharing information about people killed by contractors? How many insurgents are left? Are their numbers growing or shrinking? What's the freakin' score in the very, very, very serious game? There are plenty of questions like this that, we, as good Americans, should be asking of our government. Let me be clear. I have no criticism whatsoever of the job our men and women are doing. They are doing the very best that they can to complete the impossible task that was handed to them by our President. He's the thoughtless one. He owns the failures and terrible choices that have been made since the invasion. And I won't let you or anybody else try to smear the people of our armed services in order to protect his worthless *ss. Scr*w his legacy. I have no doubt that Thomas opposes the war...so do I. Innocent people do die in wars...it's expected. But, that wasn't the nature of the question. The question is simple, "How we doin'?" And if Thomas, or any other reporter, were to simply take dictation from lying goobs like Perino, then they wouldn't be doing their jobs now, would they? Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Chicken Little on December 01, 2007, 12:19:21 pm quote:From your article: quote: Emphasis mine. It's a self-evaluation, buddy. I used to know a guy who thought he was the reincarnation of Jesus. That didn't make him right...or sane. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: guido911 on December 01, 2007, 12:24:53 pm quote: So the converse of that emphasized part of that article would be that "Democrats and independents would not rate their mental health as excellent." Wow, there's a statement. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: guido911 on December 01, 2007, 12:36:21 pm quote: Here's a partial trancript HELEN THOMAS: Does the President want no troops out from Iraq on his watch? I'm talking about all the troops. DANA PERINO, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Well, 5,700 troops will be home by the end of the year, so that is some troops coming home. The President said that troop levels are going to be made by commanders on the ground, and that we're going to have to talk about -- THOMAS: Why should it be? Why can't the American people have a say? PERINO: -- return on success. The American people have had a say. They elected a President who is their Commander-in-Chief and is making decisions based on what his commanders on the ground are telling him. THOMAS: And you think that was the vote of the American people? PERINO: They elected a Commander-in-Chief, and the President is bringing home 5,700 troops, based on the recommendations of his commanders on the ground and based on return on success. Hopefully in the future we can bring home more, but it's going to depend on what General Petraeus reports and remember he will come back in March. THOMAS: Why should we depend on him? PERINO: Because he is the commander on the ground, Helen. He's the one who is making sure that the situation is moving -- THOMAS: You mean how many more people we kill? MS. PERINO: Helen, I find it really unfortunate that you use your front row position, bestowed upon you by your colleagues, to make such statements. This is a -- it is an honor and a privilege to be in the briefing room, and to suggest that we, at the United States, are killing innocent people is just absurd and very offensive. THOMAS: Do you know how many we have since the start of this war? MS. PERINO: How many -- we are going after the enemy, Helen. To the extent that any innocent Iraqis have been killed, we have expressed regret for it. THOMAS: Oh, regret. It doesn't bring back a life. MS. PERINO: Helen, we are in a war zone, and our military works extremely hard to make sure that everyone has the opportunity for liberty and freedom and democracy, and that is exactly what they are doing. I'm going to move on. Where's the fair question from this exchange? It reads and sounds like the POS Thomas is using her seat at a press conference to spout off her anti-war message. You wrote: I have no criticism whatsoever of the job our men and women are doing. They are doing the very best that they can to complete the [/i] impossible[/i] task that was handed to them by our President." Bull crap. President Bush, VP Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, or any other past or present government official who supported taking out Saddam are not shooting or bombing innocent Iraqi people--the U.S./coalition forces are from the commanding general to the E-1 on the front lines. When people argue innocent people are dying, they are absolutely stating that it is our soldier's fault. So stop the "I support the troops but not the war" crap. The truth is you support neither. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: RecycleMichael on December 01, 2007, 01:02:34 pm I could be diagnosed as manic-depressive bipolar.
I have mixed feelings about it. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: guido911 on December 01, 2007, 03:42:23 pm quote: Now that's funny. Unfortunately I am going to have to tell Medlock, which of course means you will be mentioned on his blog again. Sorry. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Chicken Little on December 01, 2007, 03:51:01 pm quote:What did I just say to you? I said that I'm not going to let you smear our troops in an effort to stick up for a failed President. And less than an hour later, you turn around and blame the troops anyway. Shameful. In war, when troops are doing their jobs, innocent people sometimes die. Everybody knows this, even that dumb*ss Bush. Yet, he made the choice to go to war anyway. Let me say that again. It wasn't a war of necessity, Iraq was a war of choice...Bush's choice, and his alone. If innocent people are dying because of this war, it's the fault of the guy who started it, not the troops who are following orders. Are you the kind of guy that bangs his thumb with a hammer and then throws it away because you think it malfunctions? I'm not going to let you do that to our men and women in uniform. They have excelled. They have done ten times what was expected of them, and done so in spite of the fact that their idiot commander-in-chief sent them there with no strategic plan, insufficient numbers, and inadequate protection. The failures are Bush's responsibility and his alone. Could Bush also choose to end this war? Absolutely. And so, why isn't it appropriate for Thomas to remind the world about the consequences of Bush's choices? Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: guido911 on December 01, 2007, 04:11:01 pm quote: You completely missed the point I was making. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Chicken Little on December 02, 2007, 12:37:50 pm quote:If I did, it's because your premise is weak. You somehow think that people can't be proud of and concerned about our military unless they also support this misguided war in Iraq. That's simply not the case. Hundreds of millions of Americans, in fact the majority of them (http://"http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/12/02/MNOJTM0R2.DTL&tsp=1"), believe that the troops should come home. That's in spite of the recent lower levels of violence. Even the Commandant of the Marines wants to pull out of Iraq and go to Afghanistan (http://"http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/30/marines.shift/"). I support that. This notion that you have to support Bush's war or you are a traitor is a threadbare idea that was pretty stale in 2004...three years down the road it just seems like a joke. That's why so many people on this board think that you must be some sort of parody of a conservative. People on this board and all over America have wide-ranging, nuanced, opinions, and they don't exactly track the way that Rush and Bill-O tell you they do. Careful who you try to bully or scare with those tired old wingnut cliches, it just might be a conservative you are baring your *ss to. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: Double A on December 02, 2007, 01:06:38 pm quote: So the converse of that emphasized part of that article would be that "Democrats and independents would not rate their mental health as excellent." Wow, there's a statement. Sounds to me like Democrats and Independents are more likely to give an honest answer, and less likely to be living in a state of denial. The credibility gap of the GOP grows ever larger as they continue on their delusional path of deep denial and dysfunction in their conservative culture of corruption. Title: To Be A Republican..... Post by: RecycleMichael on December 02, 2007, 01:19:19 pm quote: This joke is for Chicken Little... Sister: My brother thinks he is a chicken. Therapist: How long has he thought this? Sister: About six months. Therapist: What took you so long to bring him to me? Sister: We needed the eggs. |