Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Chicken Little on December 20, 2007, 10:31:31 am
Radio station retracts remarks
KFAQ says comments by former talk-show host Michael DelGiorno were not true. Tulsa World Story (http://"http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071220_1_A17_hKFAQ60381") quote:
Christiansen, who operates an aviation business, said that on one tape of the radio program, DelGiorno said he "looked forward to the day he ruined me, and it was his job to say it over and over again until people believe it."
OU sports dropped KFAQ, some say, because of this horse poo. I don't know much about Christianson, but, bully for him and bully for OU for showing the value of smear tactics and "truthiness" (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness"). For those of you who ain't so good with cipherin', it's a negative number.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 20, 2007, 10:40:48 am
KFAQ should apologize to all of us for Michael DelGiorno.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Conan71 on December 20, 2007, 11:26:46 am
Del Giorno wasn't a commentator, he was an entertainer/actor.
He picked the wrong tree to piss on when he went after Christiansen. Anyone I know who has done business with Bill, including myself, thinks very highly of him and his sense of ethics.
Glad to see this over and done with. I still smile every time I think of MaDoG being represented by that "evil" Democrat Doug Dodd.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Friendly Bear on December 20, 2007, 11:38:47 am
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
Del Giorno wasn't a commentator, he was an entertainer/actor.
He picked the wrong tree to piss on when he went after Christiansen. Anyone I know who has done business with Bill, including myself, thinks very highly of him and his sense of ethics.
Glad to see this over and done with. I still smile every time I think of MaDoG being represented by that "evil" Democrat Doug Dodd.
Go hang around Jones Riverside Airport for a while, and you'll easily find plenty of Bill Christiansen detractors. And not JUST at Roadhouse Aviation. Bill's speaking coach is apparently helping him with his sissy-sounding lisp, apparently with higher office in mind. Michael del Giorno used to hit that one side-splitting hard. Remember? Maybe he was hinting that Bill was gay? A former Marine, gay? IMPOSSIBLE. [8D]
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: swake on December 20, 2007, 11:48:00 am
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
Del Giorno wasn't a commentator, he was an entertainer/actor.
He picked the wrong tree to piss on when he went after Christiansen. Anyone I know who has done business with Bill, including myself, thinks very highly of him and his sense of ethics.
Glad to see this over and done with. I still smile every time I think of MaDoG being represented by that "evil" Democrat Doug Dodd.
Go hang around Jones Riverside Airport for a while, and you'll easily find plenty of Bill Christiansen detractors.
And not JUST at Roadhouse Aviation.
Bill's speaking coach is apparently helping him with his sissy-sounding lisp, apparently with higher office in mind.
Michael del Giorno used to hit that one side-splitting hard. Remember?
Maybe he was hinting that Bill was gay?
A former Marine, gay?
IMPOSSIBLE.
[8D]
Always a love filled Bear, always with the personal attacks.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Friendly Bear on December 20, 2007, 12:01:18 pm
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Conan71
Del Giorno wasn't a commentator, he was an entertainer/actor.
He picked the wrong tree to piss on when he went after Christiansen. Anyone I know who has done business with Bill, including myself, thinks very highly of him and his sense of ethics.
Glad to see this over and done with. I still smile every time I think of MaDoG being represented by that "evil" Democrat Doug Dodd.
Go hang around Jones Riverside Airport for a while, and you'll easily find plenty of Bill Christiansen detractors.
And not JUST at Roadhouse Aviation.
Bill's speaking coach is apparently helping him with his sissy-sounding lisp, apparently with higher office in mind.
Michael del Giorno used to hit that one side-splitting hard. Remember?
Maybe he was hinting that Bill was gay?
A former Marine, gay?
IMPOSSIBLE.
[8D]
Always a love filled Bear, always with the personal attacks.
How is wondering if someone is possibly Gay a PERSONAL ATTACK? Makes no difference to me whether the rumor is true or not. It MIGHT make a difference to his wife and children, though. Or, maybe not...... [;)]
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: swake on December 20, 2007, 12:14:40 pm
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Conan71
Del Giorno wasn't a commentator, he was an entertainer/actor.
He picked the wrong tree to piss on when he went after Christiansen. Anyone I know who has done business with Bill, including myself, thinks very highly of him and his sense of ethics.
Glad to see this over and done with. I still smile every time I think of MaDoG being represented by that "evil" Democrat Doug Dodd.
Go hang around Jones Riverside Airport for a while, and you'll easily find plenty of Bill Christiansen detractors.
And not JUST at Roadhouse Aviation.
Bill's speaking coach is apparently helping him with his sissy-sounding lisp, apparently with higher office in mind.
Michael del Giorno used to hit that one side-splitting hard. Remember?
Maybe he was hinting that Bill was gay?
A former Marine, gay?
IMPOSSIBLE.
[8D]
Always a love filled Bear, always with the personal attacks.
How is wondering if someone is possibly Gay a PERSONAL ATTACK?
Makes no difference to me whether the rumor is true or not.
It MIGHT make a difference to his wife and children, though.
Or, maybe not......
[;)]
Attacks: “you'll easily find plenty of Bill Christiansen detractors” Since you provide no evidence of the truthfulness of this, it’s an attack “sissy-sounding lisp” very much a personal attack And if you don’t think inferring that someone who is a Republican elected official is gay, and again without evidence, then you don’t live in the real world.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Friendly Bear on December 20, 2007, 12:55:32 pm
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Conan71
Del Giorno wasn't a commentator, he was an entertainer/actor.
He picked the wrong tree to piss on when he went after Christiansen. Anyone I know who has done business with Bill, including myself, thinks very highly of him and his sense of ethics.
Glad to see this over and done with. I still smile every time I think of MaDoG being represented by that "evil" Democrat Doug Dodd.
Go hang around Jones Riverside Airport for a while, and you'll easily find plenty of Bill Christiansen detractors.
And not JUST at Roadhouse Aviation.
Bill's speaking coach is apparently helping him with his sissy-sounding lisp, apparently with higher office in mind.
Michael del Giorno used to hit that one side-splitting hard. Remember?
Maybe he was hinting that Bill was gay?
A former Marine, gay?
IMPOSSIBLE.
[8D]
Always a love filled Bear, always with the personal attacks.
How is wondering if someone is possibly Gay a PERSONAL ATTACK?
Makes no difference to me whether the rumor is true or not.
It MIGHT make a difference to his wife and children, though.
Or, maybe not......
[;)]
Attacks:
“you'll easily find plenty of Bill Christiansen detractors” Since you provide no evidence of the truthfulness of this, it’s an attack
“sissy-sounding lisp” very much a personal attack
And if you don’t think inferring that someone who is a Republican elected official is gay, and again without evidence, then you don’t live in the real world.
Other than Kent Faith, who doesn't make his feelings about Bill Christiansen any secret, why would I want to out Bill's enemies from Jenks Riverside Airport? So he could make good on the same promise he made about Roadhouse Aviation, to "run him out of business"? And, does anyone NOT think Bill has a sissy-sounding lisp? The speech coach is helping, though, don't you think? Again, I genuinely like most Gays that I've met. They nearly all have at least one redeeming quality....... [:P]
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Chicken Little on December 20, 2007, 01:25:15 pm
You're a troll, FB. IMO, this thread isn't even about Christiansen. It's about insecure weirdos who smear poop all over themselves and others just to get some attention. That's a metaphor (I hope) and a hint.
Trouble is, you aren't always talking out of yer petoot...just half the time. But it's enough to make you a troll. Work on it, man.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Conan71 on December 20, 2007, 04:22:52 pm
FB, you obviously haven't hung around Riverside airport for any length of time. I have and I've never heard any mass dissention about Christiansen Aviation or Lease-A-Plane. It soundth like you are stharting to lithp out of your ath.
His business has been a cornerstone of the airport for years and grew due to his hard work, dedication, and first class customer service.
Kent Faith came in with a chip on his shoulder and thought he ought to be able to compete against something which had become somewhat of an institution at the airport. He couldn't and started crying foul and making allegations that there was something nefarious going on due to the owner being a city councilor.
Christiansen's success has hardly been the result of a blank check and blind eye from the FAA. There have been other FBO's which have co-existed peacefully at the airport for over 30 years with CA one of which was operated by a friend's family for a number of years.
I've taxied in and out of a lot of different FBOs at large and small airports around the country, and Riverside is fortunate to have an FBO operator who is on par with any around the U.S., including the corporate conglomerates.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Aa5drvr on December 20, 2007, 05:04:26 pm
Ive done business with both of them and think both of them have something positive to offer to the airport.
Anyone who has been in aviation very long knows that to have the staying power that Chrisitansen has had at Riverside, Bill cant be all dishonest. If he were, the truth would have caught up with him. There is a fine line between shrewd and dishonest and I think some people have trouble making the distinction.
Im just glad we have and airport such as Riverside were prices are reasonable and the service is above average at both FBO's.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Friendly Bear on December 20, 2007, 05:55:44 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
FB, you obviously haven't hung around Riverside airport for any length of time. I have and I've never heard any mass dissention about Christiansen Aviation or Lease-A-Plane. It soundth like you are stharting to lithp out of your ath.
His business has been a cornerstone of the airport for years and grew due to his hard work, dedication, and first class customer service.
Kent Faith came in with a chip on his shoulder and thought he ought to be able to compete against something which had become somewhat of an institution at the airport. He couldn't and started crying foul and making allegations that there was something nefarious going on due to the owner being a city councilor.
Christiansen's success has hardly been the result of a blank check and blind eye from the FAA. There have been other FBO's which have co-existed peacefully at the airport for over 30 years with CA one of which was operated by a friend's family for a number of years.
I've taxied in and out of a lot of different FBOs at large and small airports around the country, and Riverside is fortunate to have an FBO operator who is on par with any around the U.S., including the corporate conglomerates.
Did anyone say MASS DISSENSION? Not moi. Remember the FAA Complaint: Sign, Sign, everywhere a Sign.BIG Christiansen Aviation sign. New rule for Roadhouse: You only get an itty, bitty sign for directing FBO transients. Sign, Sign............
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Conan71 on December 20, 2007, 11:45:47 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71
FB, you obviously haven't hung around Riverside airport for any length of time. I have and I've never heard any mass dissention about Christiansen Aviation or Lease-A-Plane. It soundth like you are stharting to lithp out of your ath.
His business has been a cornerstone of the airport for years and grew due to his hard work, dedication, and first class customer service.
Kent Faith came in with a chip on his shoulder and thought he ought to be able to compete against something which had become somewhat of an institution at the airport. He couldn't and started crying foul and making allegations that there was something nefarious going on due to the owner being a city councilor.
Christiansen's success has hardly been the result of a blank check and blind eye from the FAA. There have been other FBO's which have co-existed peacefully at the airport for over 30 years with CA one of which was operated by a friend's family for a number of years.
I've taxied in and out of a lot of different FBOs at large and small airports around the country, and Riverside is fortunate to have an FBO operator who is on par with any around the U.S., including the corporate conglomerates.
Did anyone say MASS DISSENSION?
Not moi.
Remember the FAA Complaint:
Sign, Sign, everywhere a Sign.
BIG Christiansen Aviation sign.
New rule for Roadhouse:
You only get an itty, bitty sign for directing FBO transients.
Sign, Sign............
"Go hang around Jones Riverside Airport for a while, and you'll easily find plenty of Bill Christiansen detractors." "Plenty of...detractors" = mass dissention. If Roadhouse had been there first, I bet they would have the big sign. Look into the FAR's there might have been a change at some point because some dolt ran off a runway, distracted by a large sign somewhere or clipped a wing on another plane. Unless you have concrete evidence of wrong-doing, it's nothing but smack.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: guido911 on December 21, 2007, 07:29:46 am
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael
KFAQ should apologize to all of us for Michael DelGiorno.
Totally agree. He was an embarrassment to Tulsa. But hey, glad to know KFAQ is still carrying on his tradition...
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: inteller on December 21, 2007, 07:31:08 am
Well, I'm not going to attack his business practices because frankly I could give a ****.
I will however level some criticism on him as a public official. The dude is a RINO and a wishy washy turd. He would have sold south Tulsa out on the IVI bridge in a heartbeat had it not been for someone stiring up a candidate to run against him. It seems no matter what we do, we can't kick this louse out of district 8.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Wrinkle on December 21, 2007, 10:48:06 am
TULSA WORLD RETRACTS COMMENTS (http://"http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071220_1_A17_hKFAQ60381")
Seems the World didn't care for discussion in the comments section of this particular article, only wishing their viewpoint this time. Not only have all existing Comments been removed, the entire Commenting section is disabled.
Of course.
Personally, I'd like to thank KFAQ for providing the ONLY political discussion in this city.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: swake on December 21, 2007, 11:03:13 am
quote:
Originally posted by Wrinkle
TULSA WORLD RETRACTS COMMENTS (http://"http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071220_1_A17_hKFAQ60381")
Seems the World didn't care for discussion in the comments section of this particular article, only wishing their viewpoint this time. Not only have all existing Comments been removed, the entire Commenting section is disabled.
Of course.
Personally, I'd like to thank KFAQ for providing the ONLY political discussion in this city.
Political discussion? A discussion usually entails two sides being talked about, they present one side only. And on top of that the hosts on that station are proven grandstanding liars. . They replaced DelGiornio with Chris “I thought I had an MBA” Medlock knowing full well he’s full of crap. Shows how little the station that is “standing up for what’s right” really doesn’t give a damn about the truth.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Wrinkle on December 21, 2007, 11:18:21 am
quote:
Originally posted by swake
quote:
Originally posted by Wrinkle
TULSA WORLD RETRACTS COMMENTS (http://"http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071220_1_A17_hKFAQ60381")
Seems the World didn't care for discussion in the comments section of this particular article, only wishing their viewpoint this time. Not only have all existing Comments been removed, the entire Commenting section is disabled.
Of course.
Personally, I'd like to thank KFAQ for providing the ONLY political discussion in this city.
Political discussion?
A discussion usually entails two sides being talked about, they present one side only. And on top of that the hosts on that station are proven grandstanding liars. . They replaced DelGiornio with Chris “I thought I had an MBA” Medlock knowing full well he’s full of crap. Shows how little the station that is “standing up for what’s right” really doesn’t give a damn about the truth.
Shall we apply the same logic/criteria to the World Editorial Board? For that matter, the entire 'news' department?
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Wrinkle on December 21, 2007, 11:26:04 am
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Originally posted by swake
quote:
Originally posted by Wrinkle
TULSA WORLD RETRACTS COMMENTS (http://"http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071220_1_A17_hKFAQ60381")
Seems the World didn't care for discussion in the comments section of this particular article, only wishing their viewpoint this time. Not only have all existing Comments been removed, the entire Commenting section is disabled.
Of course.
Personally, I'd like to thank KFAQ for providing the ONLY political discussion in this city.
Political discussion?
A discussion usually entails two sides being talked about, they present one side only. And on top of that the hosts on that station are proven grandstanding liars. . They replaced DelGiornio with Chris “I thought I had an MBA” Medlock knowing full well he’s full of crap. Shows how little the station that is “standing up for what’s right” really doesn’t give a damn about the truth.
Isn't this the same kind of rhetoric which resulted in a lawsuit? And, don't you work for the World?
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: swake on December 21, 2007, 11:44:43 am
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Originally posted by Wrinkle
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Originally posted by swake
quote:
Originally posted by Wrinkle
TULSA WORLD RETRACTS COMMENTS (http://"http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071220_1_A17_hKFAQ60381")
Seems the World didn't care for discussion in the comments section of this particular article, only wishing their viewpoint this time. Not only have all existing Comments been removed, the entire Commenting section is disabled.
Of course.
Personally, I'd like to thank KFAQ for providing the ONLY political discussion in this city.
Political discussion?
A discussion usually entails two sides being talked about, they present one side only. And on top of that the hosts on that station are proven grandstanding liars. . They replaced DelGiornio with Chris “I thought I had an MBA” Medlock knowing full well he’s full of crap. Shows how little the station that is “standing up for what’s right” really doesn’t give a damn about the truth.
Isn't this the same kind of rhetoric which resulted in a lawsuit? And, don't you work for the World?
Absoultely not. I in no way work for the World. And, Medlock with his MBA and DelGiornio with the Riverside Airport issues most certainly are proven liars.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: swake on December 21, 2007, 12:02:56 pm
I think a good example of the current “truthfulness” of current hosts of KFAQ was while my power was out I listed to a lot of channel 6 and KRMG, but twice I tuned into KFAQ.
The first time they were laughing and railing on the governor for being in Hawaii when the storm hit. They conveniently left out the fact that he was there for the December 7th opening of the USS Oklahoma Memorial at Pearl Harbor. Did they lie? No, but they certainly weren’t being truthful.
The second time they were railing on the mayor, wanting to know where she was and why she was silent during a city emergency. Again, I spent most of my time listening to channel six and KRMG where I heard her press conferences and statements multiple times a day. Again, she wasn’t on their station (why would she be?) so they may not have been really lying, but they certainly weren’t presenting the whole truth of the situation.
It took all of like seven total minutes of listening for them to tell less than the whole truth in these example, combined. It's not like I listened all day and heard these, each was right on tuning in.
Tell me again about how the station where they are “standing up for what’s right” is a place to hear the whole and real truth of a subject?
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Wrinkle on December 21, 2007, 12:05:21 pm
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Wrinkle
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Wrinkle
TULSA WORLD RETRACTS COMMENTS (http://"http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071220_1_A17_hKFAQ60381")
Seems the World didn't care for discussion in the comments section of this particular article, only wishing their viewpoint this time. Not only have all existing Comments been removed, the entire Commenting section is disabled.
Of course.
Personally, I'd like to thank KFAQ for providing the ONLY political discussion in this city.
Political discussion?
A discussion usually entails two sides being talked about, they present one side only. And on top of that the hosts on that station are proven grandstanding liars. . They replaced DelGiornio with Chris “I thought I had an MBA” Medlock knowing full well he’s full of crap. Shows how little the station that is “standing up for what’s right” really doesn’t give a damn about the truth.
Isn't this the same kind of rhetoric which resulted in a lawsuit? And, don't you work for the World?
Absoultely not.
I in no way work for the World. And, Medlock with his MBA and DelGiornio with the Riverside Airport issues most certainly are proven liars.
Ahh, but your brush was broad, and Mr. Medlock's title is "Co-Host". And, there are other timeslots with other hosts.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: swake on December 21, 2007, 12:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by Wrinkle
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Wrinkle
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Wrinkle
TULSA WORLD RETRACTS COMMENTS (http://"http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectID=11&articleID=071220_1_A17_hKFAQ60381")
Seems the World didn't care for discussion in the comments section of this particular article, only wishing their viewpoint this time. Not only have all existing Comments been removed, the entire Commenting section is disabled.
Of course.
Personally, I'd like to thank KFAQ for providing the ONLY political discussion in this city.
Political discussion?
A discussion usually entails two sides being talked about, they present one side only. And on top of that the hosts on that station are proven grandstanding liars. . They replaced DelGiornio with Chris “I thought I had an MBA” Medlock knowing full well he’s full of crap. Shows how little the station that is “standing up for what’s right” really doesn’t give a damn about the truth.
Isn't this the same kind of rhetoric which resulted in a lawsuit? And, don't you work for the World?
Absoultely not.
I in no way work for the World. And, Medlock with his MBA and DelGiornio with the Riverside Airport issues most certainly are proven liars.
Ahh, but your brush was broad, and Mr. Medlock's title is "Co-Host".
And, there are other timeslots with other hosts.
Then I am glad to retract and clarify my statement. Some of the (co)hosts are proven liars. Was KFAQ as interested in setting the record straight or did it take over a year of litigation for them to agree to just tell the truth?
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Wrinkle on December 21, 2007, 12:20:08 pm
quote:
Originally posted by swake
I think a good example of the current “truthfulness” of current hosts of KFAQ was while my power was out I listed to a lot of channel 6 and KRMG, but twice I tuned into KFAQ.
The first time they were laughing and railing on the governor for being in Hawaii when the storm hit. They conveniently left out the fact that he was there for the December 7th opening of the USS Oklahoma Memorial at Pearl Harbor. Did they lie? No, but they certainly weren’t being truthful.
The second time they were railing on the mayor, wanting to know where she was and why she was silent during a city emergency. Again, I spent most of my time listening to channel six and KRMG where I heard her press conferences and statements multiple times a day. Again, she wasn’t on their station (why would she be?) so they may not have been really lying, but they certainly weren’t presenting the whole truth of the situation.
It took all of like seven total minutes of listening for them to tell less than the whole truth in these example, combined. It's not like I listened all day and heard these, each was right on tuning in.
Tell me again about how the station where they are “standing up for what’s right” is a place to hear the whole and real truth of a subject?
Well, you would have to listen to more than snipettes, out of context. Try tuning in for a full hour sometime. And, it was pretty halarious of the Governor trying to find a way to delay his return long enough to finish his taxpayer-paid Hawaiian vaction. Besides, it was cold and icy here.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Wrinkle on December 21, 2007, 12:25:43 pm
Swake Quote: "I am glad"
Me too. Especially since some of those hosts have enough financial clout to own your mortgage, your children and the rest of your working days.
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: swake on December 21, 2007, 12:38:23 pm
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Originally posted by Wrinkle
Swake Quote: "I am glad"
Me too. Especially since some of those hosts have enough financial clout to own your mortgage, your children and the rest of your working days.
Oh Chris, I didn't know you cared You going to go "out" my name again on your blog?
Title: In imputation of KFAQ
Post by: Wrinkle on December 21, 2007, 06:23:57 pm
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Originally posted by swake
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Originally posted by Wrinkle
Swake Quote: "I am glad"
Me too. Especially since some of those hosts have enough financial clout to own your mortgage, your children and the rest of your working days.
Oh Chris, I didn't know you cared
You going to go "out" my name again on your blog?
Appears you remain in a constant cloud of confusion.
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