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Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: buzz words on January 07, 2008, 04:09:21 pm If you could find a paper that only charged .50 cents for the sales would you buy it or would you still buy the Tulsa World?
Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: spoonbill on January 07, 2008, 04:20:05 pm quote: Someone still buys the Tulsa World? I just read it at coffee shops in the morning. The reporting is poor, and it's so much easier to get the news online. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: FOTD on January 07, 2008, 04:27:00 pm Yep....it's here before there.
Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: sgrizzle on January 07, 2008, 05:21:49 pm Seems like a moot point since it wouldn't happen. Kind of a leprechauns vs unicorns thing.
Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: joiei on January 07, 2008, 07:36:26 pm quote:Over the holidays, I had a chance to pick up a copy of the Mobile Press Registar, which used to be a very good regional paper, it is now owned by some corporation somewhere not near Mobile and that paper is now hardly good for wrapping fish. That was a waste of my 50 cents for real. I may not always agree with the local paper but at least it is readable with real news. Not some schlock fed to them by a corporate headquarters that could care less about what happens locally. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: Conan71 on January 08, 2008, 12:21:30 am quote: I'm so glad I was not drinking coffee in the midst of that post. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: Conan71 on January 08, 2008, 12:24:38 am quote: Here's what you do Buzz: Look up www.tulsatoday.com. Go see the publisher, he's real big on media stuff, see, and likes to exploit new ideas. I think he'd be right up your alley for getting your various ventures off the ground. He's a promotional genious and real big on the river so the Jenks angle might attract him to you. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: inteller on January 08, 2008, 12:05:34 pm quote: Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: NellieBly on January 08, 2008, 01:20:12 pm Reading the Tulsa World is like reading history. I have already heard about, read or seen on TeeVee most of the news by the time I get my paper.
I still get the TW because I have to have something to fill my vermicomposting bin with and the hubby likes sudoku and local sports. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: waterboy on January 08, 2008, 03:16:38 pm quote: Best I can tell what you're describing is a "shopper". Usually free, tossed on yards. Content was about 90% advertising and 10% fluff editorial (crosswords, comics, local columns, and canned items available through news services). They were popular in small towns across the country until the penetration of internet usage increased. Draw your own conclusions on that. They were very profitable and a horrid use of newsprint. I think a local company, Retherford Publications, had the honor of the last one in this area called the Broken Arrow Scout. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: TeeDub on January 08, 2008, 03:54:12 pm We get the Broken Arrow Ledger for free twice a week. It is a real newspaper, and is paid for exclusively by advertising. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: spoonbill on January 08, 2008, 04:40:56 pm I don't understand the Tulsa World's business model? You can pay for it to be delivered, then go out in the cold and retrieve your wet newspaper, or you can just read it online and search for the articles you are interested in.
The online version of the Tulsa World also allows you to e-mail the writers to tell them what they got wrong. Not that they care. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: waterboy on January 08, 2008, 08:39:36 pm quote: What you're getting is probably the free shopper editions loaded with grocery ads and flyers delivered "free" twice a week. The paper is a subscription paper. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: waterboy on January 08, 2008, 08:45:36 pm quote: You sound a bit cynical Spoon. The paper is bagged on wet days. The value of a newspaper over internet or other electronic media is that you can take it with you and read it when you please. Not just when you have electricity or a free wireless signal. Advertisers like the tearsheets proving their ads actually were published, the confirmed subscriptions proving someone cared enough to pay for the medium their ad ran in and the quick production times (about a day and a half). Add the fact that you can cut coupons, tear an article out and run screaming to the editor about its errors AND then use it for composting...well, thats one fine medium! edit: btw that model allowed one family the profits to build the Fox network and a local family the income to own their own island in the Pacific. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: dggriffi on January 08, 2008, 09:59:30 pm i never go anywhere without electricity and an internet connection. Thats why i weigh 800 pounds. When i must leave(to find food) i use a sprint air card and a Stirling engine fueled by the heat created from friction when my legs move(spandex assisted). so you can keep your fancy "paper" paper.
Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: TeeDub on January 08, 2008, 10:14:39 pm quote: The Broken Arrow Ledger newspaper is free to most residents in the community and is delivered on Wednesdays and Saturdays. The phone number for the newspaper is 918 - 258 - 7171. The Tulsa Daily World is the largest metropolitan newspaper in the area and includes an insert for Broken Arrow residents each Wednesday. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: waterboy on January 09, 2008, 07:21:58 am quote: I guess thats what you call spin. The official website of the city of Broken Arrow refers to it as the Broken Arrow Daily Ledger delivered Tuesday through Saturday. Because Broken Arrow is located to closely to the Tulsa, city residents rely on radio and television stations from that city to provide them with most of their network news and entertainment. Tulsa has all of the major networks covered: ABC over KTUL-TV, Channel 8; CBS over KOTV, Channel 6; and NBC over KJRH-TV, Channel 2 (9 on Cox Cable). Also having studios in Tulsa are Fox (KOKI, Channel 23 or 5 on Cox Cable); PBS (OETA, Channel 11); UPN (KTFO, Channel 41, Cox Cable 10). KDOR-TV is located in Broken Arrow and is on Channel 17. There is a wide variety of radio available, both A.M. and F.M., with everything from talk format, sports talk, country and western music, hard rock, soft rock, rock in between, religious music and even a Spanish-speaking station or two. Broken Arrow has its own daily newspaper, the Daily Ledger, which is published Tuesday through Saturday. The phone number for the newspaper is 918 - 258 - 7171. The Tulsa Daily World is the largest metropolitan newspaper in the area and includes an insert for Broken Arrow residents each week (Wednesday). Cox Communications holds the cable franchise in Broken Arrow and provides cable television and high-speed internet connections. There are also satellite TV sales systems in Broken Arrow As of July 2007 a 52 week subscription was $40. I notice the Retherford/Neighborhood newspapers office on the BA expwy is now gone. Does that mean the new owners went eyes up? Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: buzz words on January 09, 2008, 08:32:00 am What about windstream? What do they provide to broken arrow?
Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: sgrizzle on January 09, 2008, 08:52:26 am quote: Hate to call you a liar WB, but LIAR! quote: From: http://www.brokenarrowok.gov/moving/area_media.htm The ledger ceased publication as a daily paper about a year ago. If you'll notice, the UPN network is listed in your copy/paste as well and they shutdown in 2006. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: TeeDub on January 09, 2008, 09:24:29 am The only corny part of the BA Ledger is that it is also the daily rag... It tells you who (name address) got arrested for what, and where. Truly a small town paper. EXAMPLE http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19179533&BRD=2754&PAG=461&dept_id=574063&rfi=6 Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: waterboy on January 09, 2008, 09:40:19 am quote: Guilty as charged. Can I plead digital ignorance? I should have figured a city web site was inaccurate. So BA only has a twice weekly free shopper? Thats criminal. Big bully World should be ashamed. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: sgrizzle on January 09, 2008, 10:08:49 am quote: Paper subscriptions are down period. Small papers will suffer first. Since everyone in BA who doesn't ask to unsubscribe is a "reader" their readership is WAY up. Dignorance... Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: NellieBly on January 09, 2008, 10:17:18 am Actually, some smaller papers are doing well. Especially in rural areas. Small town people like their small town news, a lot. I have worked for many of them over the years and they have survived and grown while the larger dailies suffer.
Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: sgrizzle on January 09, 2008, 10:33:24 am quote: What I meant was if an area is served by both a large metro and a small city paper, the small one will suffer first because of the smaller operation. Rural papers have no real competition. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: buzz words on January 09, 2008, 03:47:30 pm Coffee News is a great reader!!!!!
Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: Conan71 on January 09, 2008, 10:34:43 pm quote: WB- those bags also do a great job of holding water in with the paper [}:)] Old print veterans like you and I are slowly becoming anachronisms. Honestly if it weren't for the boss taking a copy of the World at work, I'd likely never read the paper copy any more. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: waterboy on January 10, 2008, 07:06:06 am quote: Its still a popular media for a large segment of population. This forum, and this medium in general, gives one a skewed vision. We are all so wired up that we tend to think everyone is. Bear in mind, you seldom go into a bathroom stall and find a laptop laying around. But not uncommon to find a Wall Street Journal, USA Today or World Sports section. And when 80% of Tulsa was without light and heat, the World was published and delivered. But, I like being an anachronism. Hell, I like being a part of any group that will have me! Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: sgrizzle on January 10, 2008, 07:13:25 am Waterboy is an acronym?
Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: waterboy on January 10, 2008, 07:21:04 am quote: No, a WASP. With a little Cherokee, Welsh and Irish. If you believe in stereotypes, I love to drink, don't do it very well and don't pay my debts. Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: RecycleMichael on January 10, 2008, 07:25:54 am quote: Waterboy is afraid of spiders? Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: Conan71 on January 10, 2008, 09:03:14 am quote: Sen. Larry Craig should have just said he was checking to see if someone left USA Today or WSJ in the other stall and all would have been forgiven. [}:)] Title: The Tulsa World Sales Ad's Post by: EricP on January 10, 2008, 01:37:17 pm quote: Yes, we know this from the other thread you posted about Coffee News being a great reader. If it's as good a reader as you are a mole, then I'd run the other direction. |