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Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: buzz words on January 10, 2008, 09:15:55 am Server's at almost all Tulsa restaurants are paid $2.15 per hour. What do you base your tip percentage on? Most restaurants charge the server on average 4-5% of their sales as a "tip out" amount to be spread amongst "the helpers" $100.00 sale the servers pay $4.00 to their helpers.
If you normally tip 20% what does it take to tip out more than normal? Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: Ibanez on January 10, 2008, 09:26:04 am As far as I know the standard tip amount is still supposed to be 15% right?
Unless the service is lousy, like the wife and I had at Copeland's on Saturday night, I leave 20%. If the service is bad I leave anywhere from 0% to 5% and usually a note letting them know why. Yeah...I'm an a**hole. Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: tulsa_fan on January 10, 2008, 09:44:28 am I am usually a big tipper, although the "standard" keeps creeping up, but in general, if I'm happy I'll leave 20 - 25%, I figure I am eating out for them to serve me.
Here's a bone I have to pick though, I may not go back to Shogun's. Went there Friday night with a group of friends, we filled up a table (as many others did) when I got my ticket, it had tip INCLUDED, 20+% tip included no less. What really bothered me is I had bought a $40 bottle of wine which they poured the first glass and never refilled, and they tipped so much on that! Why would they include the tip? It's not like we were a table of 8 that tip should have been included, every table there is of 8, you aren't holding the table by coming in a group? I was NOT happy at all. Anyway, anyone else had that problem there? Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: buzz words on January 10, 2008, 09:55:53 am I know that many times the tip is included because the bill will normally be high for a big party 6+ If the tab is $200.00 and the consumer thinks $20.00 should be decent. If the server did a great job then they may be offended because of the percentage. Then they have to split 4-5% with their helper's leaving them with 11 dollars on a two hour table. It is hard for a company to keep a great server with that kind of money. They would be better off making $7.00 per hour at Wal-Mart being rude and taking their time.
Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: RecycleMichael on January 10, 2008, 09:58:31 am I pass on inside information on stocks and the top horse races.
I consider that tipping big. Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: inteller on January 10, 2008, 10:51:10 am Nice Guy Eddie: C'mon, throw in a buck!
Mr. Pink: Uh-uh, I don't tip. Nice Guy Eddie: You don't tip? Mr. Pink: Nah, I don't believe in it. Nice Guy Eddie: You don't believe in tipping? Mr. Blue: You know what these chicks make? They make ****. Mr. Pink: Don't give me that. She don't make enough money that she can quit. Nice Guy Eddie: I don't even know a ****ing Jew who'd have the balls to say that. Let me get this straight: you don't ever tip? Mr. Pink: I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job. Mr. Blue: Hey, our girl was nice. Mr. Pink: She was okay. She wasn't anything special. Mr. Blue: What's special? Take you in the back and suck your dick? Nice Guy Eddie: I'd go over twelve percent for that. Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: cannon_fodder on January 10, 2008, 11:10:44 am Buzz, I'm not sure where you get your tip-sharing amount... but 4-5% of SALES would be high for an average. What's more, most restaurants don't have tip sharing - kitchen staff is a wage position but for management which is salaried. Sometimes there is bar - server or kicks to the bus boys (often waiters in waiting) since each can compliment the other's income... but with the back of the house it is not as common from my experience.
I worked 3 or 4 years in a restaurant (bar tender, then server, then bar manager - who also cashed out the wait staff) and I'd say the average tip was only 15% or so most nights for the servers (though it was an expensive place, so a 20% tip might easily have been $20). So taking 5% of sales would be a big hit to a server and may cause the better ones to go elsewhere. - - - Anyway - I'm with Mr. Pink to some degree. I'm a merit tipper. Everyone starts out in the 15% range - a "C" grade if you will. It is not uncommon to fall to a "D" grade and get 10%. It is not uncommon to get a B and move up to 20%. A few really earn it and get 25%+ and fewer still piss me off and feel the wraith of a token tip ($1.01 frequently). Late to be seated, slow to take or return drink orders, messed up orders, not checking in, failure to correct errors, or just not being very nice will all cost you money. If you are "too busy" I'm sorry - you'll either make up for it in volume, manage your time better, or just have to find a restaurant that employs enough staff. Also, I'm not a strict % kind of guy. More of a "get a feel for it" thing. If the bill is $21.55 and they did well just round it up to $27. Etc. While we are on the subject, I generally do not tip for take out or for buffet style meals. Sorry. I feel shafted by delivery fees and often take it out on delivery boys (men). Pizza Hut charges a "delivery fee" of $3.50 (I think) so for $20 worth of pizza a couple bucks is good enough. Sucks for the delivery person, sorry (unless they get the fee, I dont know). Overall I'm a cheap donkey I suppose. Impress me and you will be rewarded, but if you just want to slack along and expect automatic pay - then food service is the wrong industry for you. - - - A good rule of thumb for a 'standard' tip is to take sales tax and double it. That gets you in the ball park in most places. Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: Breadburner on January 10, 2008, 11:54:26 am Tip = To Insure Prompt Service.......Bartenders are normally tipped out by waitstaff...I don't tip on the tax...And try to always tip in cash.....I'm usually 20% or better depending on the server or bartender.....Alot have not figured out that you have to earn it.....
Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: dggriffi on January 10, 2008, 12:12:37 pm They "double the sales tax" rules is my standard. Good service gets more.
Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: safetyguy on January 10, 2008, 12:38:40 pm Bad service equals writing on the receipt: Tip-Don't fry bacon in the nude![:D]
I did have service at Caraba's one night like that a couple years ago. The only time I have ever used it though. Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: FOTD on January 10, 2008, 12:47:19 pm %15 minimal.....as much as %30.....
Servers, waiters, bartenders etc. are deserving of trickle down money! Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: sgrizzle on January 10, 2008, 01:04:13 pm From what I've heard, the $2.15/hr doesn't fly that much anymore.
Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: tulsa_fan on January 10, 2008, 01:06:01 pm Buzz, I understand why they add tips on a large party, but we were at Shogun, every table is a 8 person table, we could have been at a table with 3 other strange couples, why should tip be included because we all knew each other?
I guess I just need to call them, it really annoyed me, again, enough to not go back there. Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: Breadburner on January 10, 2008, 01:22:13 pm quote: Better not do that on the alchohol...heh... Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: Conan71 on January 10, 2008, 01:34:47 pm I start at 20% for my baseline and go up or down 5%. I go over and above when I get great service from a working student or a young single mother type, because I appreciate what they are trying to accomplish and I know there are some tightwads who will tie up a table for two hours and leave a $5.00 tip on a $100 tab.
I never stiff anyone for poor service (leave nothing). If you don't leave a tip, they assume you forgot and they will never "get it". I've worked in food service and have friends who have/do. I tend to understand when it's a kitchen problem or server problem and don't penalize the server when I know the chef just went out back and wasted 10 minutes smoking a blunt. Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: Wrinkle on January 10, 2008, 01:47:27 pm Pet peave: Server ices you for 30-minutes, brings your salad, then two minutes later brings the main course. Tip=$0
Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: Nick Danger on January 10, 2008, 02:30:53 pm How do you feel about tipping for a buffet meal, where the server may only bring you a drink and remove used plates? I don't think this warrants a 15% tip, but what should it be?
Nick Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: buzz words on January 10, 2008, 03:45:21 pm at a buffet the average check is less than $20.00 for four people. Is $4.00 really a lot? The CheesCake Factory Charges their servers 4% of sales, Mahagony Charges 5%, The melting Pot Charges 3%, So at Mahagony and the cheesecake Factory they are taking practically 20% of the tip. Also neither company pays over $2.30 an hour.
Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: joiei on January 10, 2008, 04:28:00 pm quote:HOw do you get 20% out of 4%? I am not following your math. Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: tulsa1603 on January 10, 2008, 04:28:46 pm Depends on the restaurant and service. If I'm at BBD, and my total is like $8.00, I'm going to tip more than 15% of that. I'll tip at least $2 or $3, which still seems small, since they work their staff pretty hard there. But if I'm at Chalkboard and my total is a lot higher for one person, I'll tip closer to 15%. At most places I just double the tax and round up the total. Even bad service I give around 15%, but sometimes I cut off a dollar or two.
I hate how restaurants like Pei Wei set it up where you pay first, then they still have a tip line on the CC receipt. Makes me feel stingy to put zero. Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: jne on January 10, 2008, 04:38:22 pm quote: +1 on all of this - my actual method is divide the total bill by 4 and subtract for less than 105% of my expectations - so usually 20% standard. If they give 110% they definitely get more. I also, always add a bit if I am camping at a table for drinks or conversation. If I can't afford to do that, I can't afford to eat out! Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: buzz words on January 10, 2008, 04:46:17 pm Sorry for the confusion. On a $20.00 order if they tip 20% ($4.00) the server tips 4% of the check .80 cents 20% of $4.00 is .80 cents. Does that make scents? At the end of the night $500.00 in sales if every one tips 20% ($100) the server would tip $20 20% of the tip and you know the irs will take their 18-20 percent. If you are caught not claiming the total tip you are fired!! And you are taxed on money that you never kept. It is a little crazy.....
Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: mdunn on January 10, 2008, 05:41:11 pm I only eat Ramon Noodles at home,This saves me lots of $$$ on tips
Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: HazMatCFO on January 10, 2008, 07:30:39 pm I start at 20%, then depending upon service I go up or down.
Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: TUalum0982 on January 10, 2008, 07:46:29 pm I tend to think I am a pretty good tipper, but some of you put me to shame! I'm not high maintanence but I do ask for certain things.
1. My drink (whether its pop, water or alcohol) never get empty 2. My food is hot and prepared the way I asked 3. The server is clean and courteous. If they do those things then I am tipping 20%. I have told several people at a few different restaurants that if my glass is ever empty, I will absolutely not leave a tip. It always worked too! Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: Conan71 on January 10, 2008, 11:29:37 pm quote: Neat and clean server brings to mind something else. How does everyone else feel about being served by some kid who looks like they just did a face-plant in a tackle box? Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: mr.jaynes on January 11, 2008, 12:59:21 am quote: I tip very generously: call it reaping what you sow, call it Karma, call it what comes around goes around, but as I work in tipped positions, it does come back to me. If I'm generous to others, others are generous to me. Title: When eating at a restaurant how do you tip? Post by: TUalum0982 on January 11, 2008, 05:21:23 am quote: I have no problem asking to be seated somewhere else. When I go to a restaurant to eat, I dont want to be appalled by the person who is waiting on me. It shouldnt be too hard to ask that I am going to do business with that establishment, to have a waitstaff that is clean, professional looking and courteous! |