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Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: Breadburner on January 28, 2008, 11:15:50 am
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59887


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: FOTD on January 28, 2008, 11:21:47 am
Do you have a pastor?


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: Breadburner on January 28, 2008, 11:41:11 am
I do...Should I get him in contact with Obama and his Mentor.....I think so....Could you get your Obama donation back and make it out to my Pastor's church...?


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: FOTD on January 28, 2008, 11:45:14 am
HUH?

Do you have but one mentor?

Were these the criteria you used in backing Bush?

I want to see the preachings of your pastor so I can have ammunition too. Level the debate.

Funny how this nonsense is finding it's way out at this very important moment in the history of our country.


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: guido911 on January 28, 2008, 12:47:46 pm
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

HUH?

Do you have but one mentor?

Were these the criteria you used in backing Bush?

I want to see the preachings of your pastor so I can have ammunition too. Level the debate.

Funny how this nonsense is finding it's way out at this very important moment in the history of our country.



Sounds like you like dishing it out AOX but can't take it. This forum has put up with your Bush-bashing, anti-conservative, anti-Republican posts for months as "FOTD" and God only knows by whatever other identity you have. Suck it up.
 
As far as Obama's "longtime friend and spiritual advisor['s]" "nonsense" comments go, Obama put them in play. Mitt Romeny has taken hits throughout his campaign because of his religion. Huckabee to a lesser degree. Should Obama get a pass?


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: FOTD on January 28, 2008, 01:22:23 pm
No matter, Obama does not put personal and spiritual beliefs in play against or for other candidates. It was a conceived attack by his opponents on his spiritual world which should be a righteous and personal matter.  

How Repugs drag each other around in the mud of religeous bigotry is their issue.


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: rwarn17588 on January 28, 2008, 01:24:45 pm
I read the story, and I don't have a problem with what Obama's preacher said about Holloway.

I agree that attention to the Holloway story was been disproportionate, and that her death was likely self-inflicted.

And, hey, I've got friends in which I don't agree with everything they say, too. Big deal.


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: sgrizzle on January 28, 2008, 01:40:18 pm
Sound's like Obama's spiritual adviser is a bit of a Pulpit Shock Jock. Maybe that's why he's the spiritual adviser and not the political one.

The Holloway story was overhyped and this pastor was talking about it when it was a news story, almost 3 years ago.

I can't imagine that "getting too hyped up over a white girl" is a spiritual belief.


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: FOTD on January 28, 2008, 01:44:42 pm
BREAKING: Jesus Christ to return to Earth to endorse Obama
The King of Kings to endorse Obama on Tuesday at a rally in Branson.
Critics play down the value of the endorsement.

By Sniffa
Published: January 27, 2008

Branson, MO - Stunning news from the Kingdom of Heaven, as Jesus has announced his long awaited return to Earth; though not to begin the Revelations, but to throw his considerable weight behind the candidacy of Barrack Obama, the Junior Senator from Illinois in his hard fought battle against Hillary Clinton for the Presidency.

The endorsement is a major coup for the Obama campaign, as the Huckabee camp had been actively seeking the Lord's backing. Reached for comment, Governor Huckabee congratulated the Senator on the endorsement, but then went on to question whether this was the one and true, Jesus, further ratcheting up the vitriol in an already, increasingly negative campaign.

"If one takes a look at where the endorsement is going to take place - Branson - one has to seriously question whether this is really the true Jesus, or is it the Mormon Jesus" said Huckabee. "And as I'm sure I don't need to remind you, Mormon Jesus is the brother of Satan. That's not a potato sack I wish to climb into."

The Clinton campaign was also quick to dismiss the endorsement. In a conference call with reporters, Chief Clinton strategist Mark Penn questioned whether the endorsement would make much of a difference.

"Look, when you take a step back and look at the big picture, this endorsement doesn't mean that much," opined Penn. "Polling trends have shown that church attendance have been on the wane for decades. And I'd also like to point out that Barrack Hussein Obama has claimed that this race is about the past versus the future. Well you can't get more in the past than 33 A.D."

Mark Penn went on to compare the Son of God unfavorably to Senator John Kerry's unsuccessful bid for the White House in 2004.

"Look, it doesn't surprise me that Jesus and Kerry have both decided to join the Obama camp," said Penn. "In 2004, Kerry didn't fight back against the swift boating, and Jesus didn't fight back against the Romans when they crucified him. You can expect the same response from Obama when the right wing smear machine gets going. Senator Clinton is the only candidate with the proven track record of fighting back."

The Obama campaign plans to release a statement later today.

Sniffa is a contributing writer to Democratic Underground.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4235844
Admit that's funny in this thread specifically!


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: grahambino on January 28, 2008, 02:20:04 pm
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

HUH?

Do you have but one mentor?

Were these the criteria you used in backing Bush?

I want to see the preachings of your pastor so I can have ammunition too. Level the debate.

Funny how this nonsense is finding it's way out at this very important moment in the history of our country.



Sounds like you like dishing it out AOX but can't take it. This forum has put up with your Bush-bashing, anti-conservative, anti-Republican posts for months as "FOTD" and God only knows by whatever other identity you have. Suck it up.
 
As far as Obama's "longtime friend and spiritual advisor['s]" "nonsense" comments go, Obama put them in play. Mitt Romeny has taken hits throughout his campaign because of his religion. Huckabee to a lesser degree. Should Obama get a pass?

]

If by 'this forum' you mean 'I'.


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: we vs us on January 28, 2008, 03:42:13 pm
quote:


If by 'this forum' you mean 'I'.




+1

That's a whole lot of indignation for such teensy controversy.


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: guido911 on January 28, 2008, 03:59:10 pm
quote:
Originally posted by grahambino

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

HUH?

Do you have but one mentor?

Were these the criteria you used in backing Bush?

I want to see the preachings of your pastor so I can have ammunition too. Level the debate.

Funny how this nonsense is finding it's way out at this very important moment in the history of our country.



Sounds like you like dishing it out AOX but can't take it. This forum has put up with your Bush-bashing, anti-conservative, anti-Republican posts for months as "FOTD" and God only knows by whatever other identity you have. Suck it up.
 
As far as Obama's "longtime friend and spiritual advisor['s]" "nonsense" comments go, Obama put them in play. Mitt Romeny has taken hits throughout his campaign because of his religion. Huckabee to a lesser degree. Should Obama get a pass?

]

If by 'this forum' you mean 'I'.




Oh, I'm sorry. I did know you shared FOTD/AOX's opinions. I will try to remember that.


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: grahambino on January 28, 2008, 04:14:50 pm
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by grahambino

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

HUH?

Do you have but one mentor?

Were these the criteria you used in backing Bush?

I want to see the preachings of your pastor so I can have ammunition too. Level the debate.

Funny how this nonsense is finding it's way out at this very important moment in the history of our country.



Sounds like you like dishing it out AOX but can't take it. This forum has put up with your Bush-bashing, anti-conservative, anti-Republican posts for months as "FOTD" and God only knows by whatever other identity you have. Suck it up.
 
As far as Obama's "longtime friend and spiritual advisor['s]" "nonsense" comments go, Obama put them in play. Mitt Romeny has taken hits throughout his campaign because of his religion. Huckabee to a lesser degree. Should Obama get a pass?

]

If by 'this forum' you mean 'I'.




Oh, I'm sorry. I did know you shared FOTD/AOX's opinions. I will try to remember that.



FOTD does not speak for me, nor does Guido911.
Please remember that in case you decide to speak for 'this forum' again.



Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: guido911 on January 28, 2008, 04:50:12 pm
quote:

Please remember that in case you decide to speak for 'this forum' again.




Is that it? Get over it. And by the way, what about my original post was wrong? Does this guy consistently bash "repugs" in this forum? The answer is "Yes". Someone points out one thing about Obama, and FOTD just can't have it. In fact, his response even dovetails to an attack on Bush.


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: spoonbill on January 28, 2008, 05:00:54 pm
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:

Please remember that in case you decide to speak for 'this forum' again.




Is that it? Get over it. And by the way, what about my original post was wrong? Does this guy consistently bash "repugs" in this forum? The answer is "Yes". Someone points out one thing about Obama, and FOTD just can't have it. In fact, his response even dovetails to an attack on Bush.



Relax.  He's entertaining.  
FOTD never ceases to amuse me!


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: grahambino on January 28, 2008, 05:20:21 pm
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:

Please remember that in case you decide to speak for 'this forum' again.




Is that it? Get over it. And by the way, what about my original post was wrong? Does this guy consistently bash "repugs" in this forum? The answer is "Yes". Someone points out one thing about Obama, and FOTD just can't have it. In fact, his response even dovetails to an attack on Bush.



Do FOTD's opinions somehow threaten yours?
Does it pain you to read a differing opinion?
Do you come here to agree with everyone?
What fun would that be.


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: FOTD on January 28, 2008, 05:57:05 pm
"The art of life is to show your hand.
There is no diplomacy like candor. You may lose by it now and then, but it will be a loss well gained if you do. Nothing is so boring as having to keep up a deception." E.V.Lucas (from this weeks Forbes...I read it from all sides)


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: guido911 on January 28, 2008, 06:40:38 pm
quote:
Originally posted by grahambino

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:

Please remember that in case you decide to speak for 'this forum' again.




Is that it? Get over it. And by the way, what about my original post was wrong? Does this guy consistently bash "repugs" in this forum? The answer is "Yes". Someone points out one thing about Obama, and FOTD just can't have it. In fact, his response even dovetails to an attack on Bush.



Do FOTD's opinions somehow threaten yours?
Does it pain you to read a differing opinion?
Do you come here to agree with everyone?
What fun would that be.




Nope. It pains me though that you are apparently this poster's band aid.


Title: Obama's Mentor disses Natalie Holloway.....
Post by: FOTD on January 28, 2008, 11:22:54 pm
I'm a scab. I don't need a band aid.
 
Why do threads evolve into condemning the delivery person instead of taking issue with the points being made?

Yes, strong emotional and political support for Obama from here. It's easy to feel the magic of fresh air and the sense of needed changes coming in Washington. He's worth the risk. Not many even here at this site seem fearful of Barack Obama. Everyone seems afraid of Billary.

Staying away from the Republican contenders.
They can't beat Obama no matter how desperate they get nor how low their tactics go.