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Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: safetyguy on February 11, 2008, 08:26:20 am
I saw a sign going up yesterday at 111 and Elm in Jenks that says South County Market, looks like commercial development. A small portion of steel I beams are going up. Anyone know anything about this?



Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: swake on February 11, 2008, 08:47:49 am
It’s called South County Square. I don’t know much about who the tenants are going to be except that the center is going to be anchored by yet another bank, I forget which one.

It’s supposed to be a nice little center with a little pond and amphitheater as the center piece. I think there’s supposed to be a fountain in the pond too.

That makes two new banks that have opened in the last year in Jenks (Arvest and TTCU) with four more either under construction or about to start construction.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: safetyguy on February 11, 2008, 09:20:37 am
Start the fireworks, another bank!! Just what we need in Jenks. I was getting concerned that there wouldn't be enough places to stockpile my money in the dwindling economy....

Swake- do you know anything about what's going to go in at 121st and Elwood on the NE corner? I saw that they have it all staked off.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: swake on February 11, 2008, 09:42:10 am
quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

Start the fireworks, another bank!! Just what we need in Jenks. I was getting concerned that there wouldn't be enough places to stockpile my money in the dwindling economy....

Swake- do you know anything about what's going to go in at 121st and Elwood on the NE corner? I saw that they have it all staked off.



No idea on that one. A bank?


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: safetyguy on February 11, 2008, 10:04:42 am
I figured Kum & Go...


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: swake on February 11, 2008, 10:30:35 am
quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

I figured Kum & Go...



With a Subway!

Seriously I have heard that a Quik Trip is planned for somewhere at the 121st Interchange on 75. I doubt they would move the store off the highway to Elwood, but who knows.

Since the highway construction closed the convenience store at 111th There's not a gas station along 75 now between 141st and 61st, and the one at 61st (on Union) is very ghetto.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: BKDotCom on February 11, 2008, 10:33:14 am
How about 111th and Elwood - NW corner?


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: Gaspar on February 11, 2008, 10:42:37 am
quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

How about 111th and Elwood - NW corner?



It's a residential development 56 acres.  Mike Wallace is the developer.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: swake on February 11, 2008, 10:44:15 am
quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

How about 111th and Elwood - NW corner?



Nothing is planned there that I know. That was the  rumored site of the Wal-Mart that is going in at 101st now. The owner is slowly leveling the site by selling fill dirt to construction sites and is in no hurry to develop or sell the land.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: safetyguy on February 11, 2008, 10:49:14 am
quote:
Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

I figured Kum & Go...



With a Subway!

Seriously I have heard that a Quik Trip is planned for somewhere at the 121st Interchange on 75. I doubt they would move the store off the highway to Elwood, but who knows.

Since the highway construction closed the convenience store at 111th There's not a gas station along 75 now between 141st and 61st, and the one at 61st (on Union) is very ghetto.



121st and 75 is going to be a mess for quite a while... It's going to be the next traffic nightmare. I'm glad that I work from home so that I don't have to mess with it on a daily basis!!


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: BKDotCom on February 11, 2008, 05:18:52 pm
quote:
Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

How about 111th and Elwood - NW corner?



Nothing is planned there that I know. That was the  rumored site of the Wal-Mart that is going in at 101st now. The owner is slowly leveling the site by selling fill dirt to construction sites and is in no hurry to develop or sell the land.

Not to be confused with 111th and Elm (Kum-n-Go corner)


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: swake on February 11, 2008, 10:51:09 pm
quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

quote:
Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

How about 111th and Elwood - NW corner?



Nothing is planned there that I know. That was the  rumored site of the Wal-Mart that is going in at 101st now. The owner is slowly leveling the site by selling fill dirt to construction sites and is in no hurry to develop or sell the land.

Not to be confused with 111th and Elm (Kum-n-Go corner)



Oh, sorry. No idea, I did see that it sold, and sold very quickly in the last few weeks. There's also a zoning change notice at the fuel terminal a little north of there.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: safetyguy on February 12, 2008, 07:47:54 am
What's the purpose of the zoning change for the fuel terminal?


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: TUalum0982 on February 16, 2008, 10:34:18 am
quote:
Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

I figured Kum & Go...



With a Subway!

Seriously I have heard that a Quik Trip is planned for somewhere at the 121st Interchange on 75. I doubt they would move the store off the highway to Elwood, but who knows.

Since the highway construction closed the convenience store at 111th There's not a gas station along 75 now between 141st and 61st, and the one at 61st (on Union) is very ghetto.



what about the Conoco ( I think) named AJ's at 91st and union right off of hwy 75.  It's no QT but he sells gas and quite a bit of it.  

My dad who is Director of engineer and Design for AT&T said there are plans for a QT at the creek turnpike and ELM (i think that's the correct street) in Jenks (just south of the turnpike but north of those huge houses on the hill).  Time will tell, but I think that would be a great location for QT.  The traffic that exits the turnpike there would be great for them.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: swake on February 16, 2008, 07:07:53 pm
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

I figured Kum & Go...



With a Subway!

Seriously I have heard that a Quik Trip is planned for somewhere at the 121st Interchange on 75. I doubt they would move the store off the highway to Elwood, but who knows.

Since the highway construction closed the convenience store at 111th There's not a gas station along 75 now between 141st and 61st, and the one at 61st (on Union) is very ghetto.



what about the Conoco ( I think) named AJ's at 91st and union right off of hwy 75.  It's no QT but he sells gas and quite a bit of it.  

My dad who is Director of engineer and Design for AT&T said there are plans for a QT at the creek turnpike and ELM (i think that's the correct street) in Jenks (just south of the turnpike but north of those huge houses on the hill).  Time will tell, but I think that would be a great location for QT.  The traffic that exits the turnpike there would be great for them.



I always forget about that station. It is near 75 but it is on 91st Street which does not have an exit. The closest exit at 96th is badly designed mess so that station is not really a good option for traffic on 75.

I have not heard about a Quik Trip on Elm, I have heard that a shopping center is going in where the Alpaca ranch was. The fence company just north of the creek only recently moved in would not be likely to move soon.

The landscaping company is gone and I believe the lot is still for sale, they could go there. The RV/mobile home park won't sell for anything close to a reasonable price, the city and River District people both have tried to buy it and weren't able to. Apparently those places are really profitable.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: tmberry on March 20, 2008, 05:23:37 pm
I talked to the Alpaca farm owner before they left (during their garage sale) and she said that they made sure to sell the land to someone that promised to use the farm in the fashion it was created and to not develop the land.  I would hate to see that property developed.  It is so beautiful.  I hope the new owners keep their promise.  And I'm thrilled to hear that the development at 111th and Elm is not an Apartment complex as I first thought.  That would be horrible!!!


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: tmberry on March 20, 2008, 05:27:04 pm
I meant 121st and Elm.  That is where the South County Square sign is.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: safetyguy on March 20, 2008, 08:48:58 pm
quote:
Originally posted by tmberry

I talked to the Alpaca farm owner before they left (during their garage sale) and she said that they made sure to sell the land to someone that promised to use the farm in the fashion it was created and to not develop the land.  I would hate to see that property developed.  It is so beautiful.  I hope the new owners keep their promise.  And I'm thrilled to hear that the development at 111th and Elm is not an Apartment complex as I first thought.  That would be horrible!!!



Money talks....

I hope they do keep their promise. We miss seeing the alpaca's. My wife likes the horses at 111th and Elm more (probably because they have been around longer)


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: TheArtist on March 20, 2008, 10:02:29 pm
That is a very pretty spot, as is the cliffs and entrance to the neighborhoods near there. If I were Jenks I would buy that property and the other one down a ways to the south thats on the left side with the hill and the red barn. Keep them as some kind of park or public facility of some sort. So much of Jenks is going to get rapidly developed that maintaining a few beautiful, tranquil, country spots in the middle of all that would be very very much appreciated some day. They probably arent even thinking about that kind of thing right now. But they will regret it when its gone. Jenks has a very small area and its likely going to be developed more densely than any other suburb.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: swake on March 21, 2008, 07:42:27 am
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

That is a very pretty spot, as is the cliffs and entrance to the neighborhoods near there. If I were Jenks I would buy that property and the other one down a ways to the south thats on the left side with the hill and the red barn. Keep them as some kind of park or public facility of some sort. So much of Jenks is going to get rapidly developed that maintaining a few beautiful, tranquil, country spots in the middle of all that would be very very much appreciated some day. They probably arent even thinking about that kind of thing right now. But they will regret it when its gone. Jenks has a very small area and its likely going to be developed more densely than any other suburb.



A huge portion of Jenks will never develop due to flooding issues. Elwood south of 96th getting washed out this week is a good example.

I do know the farm with the red barn at 111th has the deed written to make it difficult to develop. I have heard the former Alpaca farm IS going to be developed but who knows. Quik Trip is building a store right by the Alpaca farm where the nursery was.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: joiei on March 21, 2008, 02:29:18 pm
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

That is a very pretty spot, as is the cliffs and entrance to the neighborhoods near there. If I were Jenks I would buy that property and the other one down a ways to the south thats on the left side with the hill and the red barn. Keep them as some kind of park or public facility of some sort. So much of Jenks is going to get rapidly developed that maintaining a few beautiful, tranquil, country spots in the middle of all that would be very very much appreciated some day. They probably arent even thinking about that kind of thing right now. But they will regret it when its gone. Jenks has a very small area and its likely going to be developed more densely than any other suburb.

You have a point.  If the suburbs want to replace Tulsa, they need to develope their own park systems with their signature parks instead of relying on Tulsa to entertain them.  Do any of them have anything like a major park to claim as their own?  Or do they all bus the kids into Tulsa to have a park day?  Just curious. Is there any place around that has as many wedding pictures and graduation pictures as Woodland Park taken there?  Not to mention all the high school groups like cheerleaders?  Have we found a need that needs to be filled?


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: tulsa1603 on March 24, 2008, 11:02:21 am
I knew the owners of the alpaca farm, and I have inside sources with the new owner - no development there anytime soon...it was a concern of mine, as well.  The new owner also bought the house on top of the hill above it...He's a major player in the River District, FYI.

I do know that there are plans to put a stoplight in at 106th where it hits Elm.  It will also require a minor rerouting of 106th to tne north from the plans I've seen.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: safetyguy on March 25, 2008, 06:55:07 am
quote:
Originally posted by tulsa1603

I knew the owners of the alpaca farm, and I have inside sources with the new owner - no development there anytime soon...it was a concern of mine, as well.  The new owner also bought the house on top of the hill above it...He's a major player in the River District, FYI.

I do know that there are plans to put a stoplight in at 106th where it hits Elm.  It will also require a minor rerouting of 106th to tne north from the plans I've seen.



That's interesting that someone who has involvement with the River District is owns the house on the hill. They will be able to watch the River District develop from their house with the view that house has to have!!

Not thrilled about a light at 106th and Elm, but at the same time I am not surprised. Maybe the rerouting will mean that they have to remove the swamp/mini lake (on the east side) that has been known to wreak when you drive by it (my wife always asks as we drive by if I have passed gas and I just say not this time [}:)] )


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: Vision 2025 on April 08, 2008, 10:07:21 am
quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

Start the fireworks, another bank!! Just what we need in Jenks. I was getting concerned that there wouldn't be enough places to stockpile my money in the dwindling economy....

Swake- do you know anything about what's going to go in at 121st and Elwood on the NE corner? I saw that they have it all staked off.

Three guesses and the first two don't count... ANOUTHER BANK[xx(]


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: Vision 2025 on April 08, 2008, 10:14:45 am
quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

quote:
Originally posted by tulsa1603

I knew the owners of the alpaca farm, and I have inside sources with the new owner - no development there anytime soon...it was a concern of mine, as well.  The new owner also bought the house on top of the hill above it...He's a major player in the River District, FYI.

I do know that there are plans to put a stoplight in at 106th where it hits Elm.  It will also require a minor rerouting of 106th to tne north from the plans I've seen.



That's interesting that someone who has involvement with the River District is owns the house on the hill. They will be able to watch the River District develop from their house with the view that house has to have!!

Not thrilled about a light at 106th and Elm, but at the same time I am not surprised. Maybe the rerouting will mean that they have to remove the swamp/mini lake (on the east side) that has been known to wreak when you drive by it (my wife always asks as we drive by if I have passed gas and I just say not this time [}:)] )

Yes signalization at 106th is in their plan and no it is not the little pond on the Evan's property that stinks.  Shift your view a little north and you'll see the top (elevated hatch) of a significant (buried) sewer lift station and what is offending you is the vent from the wet well...


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: Vision 2025 on April 08, 2008, 10:19:49 am
quote:
Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

How about 111th and Elwood - NW corner?



Nothing is planned there that I know. That was the  rumored site of the Wal-Mart that is going in at 101st now. The owner is slowly leveling the site by selling fill dirt to construction sites and is in no hurry to develop or sell the land.

I believe you're lost try the NW Corner of 111th and Elm for the excavation/future development site and yes Wallace is developing the NE Corner of 111th and Elwood as residential.


Title: South County Square in Jenks
Post by: safetyguy on July 12, 2008, 08:48:51 am
quote:
Originally posted by swake

It’s called South County Square. I don’t know much about who the tenants are going to be except that the center is going to be anchored by yet another bank, I forget which one.

It’s supposed to be a nice little center with a little pond and amphitheater as the center piece. I think there’s supposed to be a fountain in the pond too.

That makes two new banks that have opened in the last year in Jenks (Arvest and TTCU) with four more either under construction or about to start construction.




I drove by this development last night and it is coming along nicely. I like the style of the building.

As far as tenants at this point, Fox Cleaners, Fitness Together and Out South Wine & Liquor have banners displayed that they are coming soon. Fox Cleaners looks like they are going to have a drive thru window/door for pickup/drop off which will be nice.