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Predict the Day Hillary Concedes

Started by FOTD, March 22, 2008, 12:58:02 PM

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iplaw

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Are FOTD initials to For Obama Till Death?

or maybe...****ing Obnoxious Thickheaded Disgrace?

Please cool it, you two.

waterboy

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Here is a nice story from the founder of Emily's list.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/09/AR2008050902298.html

Quitters Never Win
 
By Ellen R. Malcolm
Saturday, May 10, 2008

When I was growing up in the 1960s, I wanted to play basketball. In those days, the rules said girls could dribble only three steps and then had to pass the ball. To make sure we didn't overexert ourselves, we weren't allowed to cross the half-court line. It's a wonder our fans (our mothers) could stay awake when a typical game's final score was 14-10.

It's remarkable that my generation of women entered the workforce and began to compete in business, politics and the hurly-burly of life outside the home. How did we ever learn to locate, much less channel, our competitive instincts in a world that made us play half-court and assumed that we would be content staying home to iron the shirts? It's a tremendous tribute to women of my generation that we sucked it up and learned to compete in the toughest environments.

Which brings us to Hillary Clinton running for president. This brilliant woman believes that she can compete for the most powerful office in the world. She believes that she can do a better job than any of the men running to lead our country through these challenging times. And millions of Americans, women and men, believe that she is correct.

Yet over and over again the media and her opponents have claimed that she is defeated -- it's over, she can't win, she's a loser. And over and over again -- in New Hampshire, on Super Tuesday, in Texas and Ohio, in Pennsylvania last month, and in Indiana this week -- female voters poured out of their homes to cast their ballots for her. They know that women can compete, and they want to make sure that women, especially this woman, can win.

It's not surprising that low-income working women are the cornerstone of Hillary's success. Many of these women live on the edge of disaster. A pink slip, a family member's illness, a parent who can no longer live alone, a car that won't start or a mortgage rate that goes up -- all are threats that could devastate the family. And yet these women do what women have done for ages. They put on a confident face, feed their children breakfast and get them off to school. They don't quit. They suck it up and fight back against whatever life throws their way.

They see in Hillary Clinton a candidate who understands the pressures they face. As they watch her tough it out against all odds, refusing to quit and continuing to compete against whatever the media and her opponents throw her way, they see a woman as tough and resilient as they are. They clearly want her to win. Her victory, I believe, is their victory.

So here we are in the fourth quarter of the nominating process and the game is too close to call. Once again, the opponents and the media are calling for Hillary to quit. The first woman ever to win a presidential primary is supposed to stop competing, to curtsy and exit stage right.

Why on earth should one candidate quit before the contest is finished? Democrats need not be so fainthearted. Both of the party's remaining candidates have raised tens of millions of dollars. Both have the respect of Democrats nationwide. Each has a progressive agenda that stands in stark contrast to Sen. John McCain and his adherence to Bush administration policies.

So why are some Democrats so afraid? We simply need to count every vote, let the remaining states have their say and see the process through to its conclusion.

Hillary Clinton certainly has the right to compete till the end. But I believe Hillary also has a responsibility to play the game to its conclusion. For the women of my generation who learned to find and channel their competitiveness, for the working women who never falter in the face of pressure, for the younger women who still believe women can do anything, Hillary is a champion. She's shown us over and over that winners never quit and that quitters never win. We'll cheer her on until the game is over. And we hope that when the final whistle blows, we will have elected the first female president and the best president our country has ever had.



I remember watching the same pundits exclaim with the same enthusiasm that McCain was history and Romney was the man. Saw McCain in front of his goofy bus just after firing his chief of staff who promptly went on national tv to tell everyone that McCain was not living in reality. And that may be true. But he shrugged it off and I admire him for it. Their reality IS to fight against all odds. I don't begrudge her this opportunity to fight on. But....

....as a businessman, I think she should cut her losses and see how she can maximize her efforts by cutting the race short and using her hard earned capital to achieve her goals. I am not one for futile efforts such as proving that a woman can go the distance but then lose track of the original goal of "draining the swamp". This isn't a race or gender war, this is a battle for bigger things.

tim huntzinger

I thought the deal was that for each day she can delude others into buying into the idea of a viable candidacy she can expect to raise a certain amount of donations.

FOTD

It's the power trip.....she's got deals to cut before she drops out. The Obama Nation no doubt prefers not to deal with them....

bugo

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Originally posted by pmcalk

Hillary has said again and again that she won't quit until there is a nominee.  There will be a nominee when Obama reaches 2025 delegates, which he only lacks by somewhere between 150 and 180 delegates.  He should have that by May 20th, or shortly thereafter.  I have every confidence that, once Obama reaches that number, Hillary will graciously concede.  Hillary knows it's over.  Her strongest supporters--McGovern, Sharpton--have said it is over.  Paul Krugman, her tireless advocate, implied it was over today.  John Edwards hinted that it was over today.  She won't destroy the party; she just needs a graceful way to exit.



It's far too late for her to make a graceful exit.  Had she quit when Obama won 11 in a row (or however many it was, I think it was 11).  Now, she's alienated about 45% of her party, and nobody outside her supporters has any respect for her at all.  And because of this, if McCain wins, she will have no chance at the nomination in 2012 because voters will remember her kookout.  Hillary is poison.

FOTD

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She's done us a big favor grinding on Obama. The republican attack machine will be awful. However, the republican swift boats have had some wind taken out of the sails.

But she has done herself great harm pretending to be one of the boys. She should have stuck to the feminism routine.

FOTD

http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/11/saturday-night-live-gives-clinton-a-hint/

"I am not going to lose gracefully," says the Senator's doppelganger in sharp-tongued opening sketch.