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Mayfest, Blue Dome Prove People Will Come Downtown

Started by PonderInc, May 19, 2008, 11:34:11 AM

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shadows

CF Quoted from shadows posts:

5. That ignores the underlying flaw in your post. So Mayfest did not have a lot of people there (because you saw that on TV) but the crowds came to Mayfest because they had their rebates deposited. So which is it? Crowds because of deposits or media conspiracy and no crowds?{hr}

Many of the past elitist have used the old cliché "A picture is worth more than a thousand words.   Let us print the pictures taken by the TV cameramen that did not show the presumed phantom hundreds of thousands of visitors, hiding in buildings, which would make it more lucid for the working poor with the increasing fees (they are the only sources of city income left) or by issuing revenue (that do not require a vote of the people) or adding fees on utilities bills of which likewise the working poor have no control.  
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

RecycleMichael

Many of the past elitist have used the old cliché "A picture is worth more than a thousand words. Let us print the pictures taken by the TV cameramen that did not show the presumed phantom hundreds of thousands of visitors, hiding in buildings, which would make it more lucid for the working poor with the increasing fees (they are the only sources of city income left) or by issuing revenue (that do not require a vote of the people) or adding fees on utilities bills of which likewise the working poor have no control.

Let me try to translate...

I'm bitter about everything. I will attack anything good because I'm bitter.

I speak for other bitter people who don't want to pay their bills. I used the word lucid, but I don't know why or have any control of what I write.
Power is nothing till you use it.

shadows


RM writes:
Let me try to translate...

I'm bitter about everything. I will attack anything good because I'm bitter.

I speak for other bitter people who don't want to pay their bills. I used the word lucid, but I don't know why or have any control of what I write.


If you can get a 5th grade reader to read my post to you and explain the minimum of the guarantees built into the constitution that was to insure the government would remain in the hands of the people, it could very easily become lucid (a well used adjective in the category of simply being able to transfer thought in a matter that is "easy to understand; meaningful clear") of course it is being recorded that we are issuing hundreds of thousands of diplomas to students that cannot even read their diplomas.

I assure you that I strongly believe in the intent of the founders in "That this government of the people, for the people, by the people, shall, not perish from the earth".  From this I guard against the take over by any single or group of people who would destroy our system of which thousands of our youth who have made their final sacrifice.  Furthermore I stand against a suffrage system where the minimum of registered votes dictate the terms to the majority.  

Sleep well tonight, assured of the security that other have provided you but you are determine to destroy.   It is all in the eyes of the beholder.
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

JoeMommaBlake

I see that it takes over a thousand posts to get a person five yellow stars beneath their name. Clearly there is no rule about any of those posts being articulate.

I don't understand most of what was written on this particular page. . . and I'm not one of those people who can't read his own diploma.

What's the argument here? Did Mayfest have a large group of people as visitors? I was there. I can clear this up. There were tons of people there. There were more people there than I've ever seen at Mayfest and I was down there every day at some point.

The Blue Dome Festival seemed to do pretty well too.

Please know that I don't work for any of our biased local media. I'm just an observer. I didn't count each one of the visitors to downtown. All I know is that Mayfest and the Blue Dome Festival did in fact help to prove that people, if given a reason, will visit downtown.



"Make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men's blood and probably will not themselves be realized."
- Daniel Burnham

http://www.joemommastulsa.com

shadows

Joeblake

It has all been in a matter of discussion while some of the elitist threw Bell's amusement park out of town are trying to recreate a new Branson entertainment center in a crowed 40 acre area on the presumption that if they do it the people will come.

In the 1940's the  families walked down town and canvassed the main street looking into the window at the displays the stores constant changed.  The lookers were shoulder to shoulder and crowds gathered at the street corners, waiting for the light to change in order to cross.   Then too one could watch the people get off the light rail system to see if they knew any one arriving DT.

After the Fest had started the local TV stations showed clips of the area looking like a half hour after the game is over with a few people wandering around.
 
So some one came up with the attendance being 400,000 on that 40 acres of main street with thousands of workers on a tight scheduled completion date working also.

I suppose those entertainers who have their own building on the restless strip in Branson are going to have to move to our city with no dependable transportation and limited paying for parking.

You wrote that you saw tons of persons in attendance which I have no doubt they were there.  On TV clips I saw several but could not understand why they were wearing hard hats.    
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

waterboy

Give it up Shadows. I can be as cynical and pessimistic as anyone. I've gone to every Mayfest since back when it was called Jubilee '73. Many were so crowded they felt like the fair on student day. This one was well attended. Was it 400,000? I doubt it. Do the Drillers draw 9000? Also doubtful. But it, and the Blue Dome were plenty well attended and prove that people will come downtown if provided the right incentives.

JoeMommaBlake

proof·read  (prfrd)
v. proof·read (-rd), proof·read·ing, proof·reads
v.tr.
To read (copy or proof) in order to find errors and mark corrections.
v.intr.

I've read your post twice and still don't understand what you're trying to say.

All I can really discern is that you're being negative, though I can't tell who is actually to blame. I did see mention of "some of the elitist," which of course is grammatically incorrect and seemed to have more to do with Bell's closing than anything else.

Was the title of the thread not trying to make the point that the festivals prove that people will come downtown? What's to debate? They do! Nobody had to hype it up. It was, in fact, very busy. There were thousands of people that drove from all over.

I don't get what Branson has to do with anything. I simply don't understand. What point are you trying to make? Are you insinuating that elitists are working in conjunction with the local media to make Mayfest seem more successful than it actually was as part of a master plan to attract Branson entertainers to a proposed entertainment village at the fairgrounds?

Are you suggesting that the same people who want downtown to seem more appealing than it actually is are also those that wanted Bells gone so that they could put an entertainment area at the fairgrounds?

I guess I just don't understand the attachment.

It may help if your tense wasn't in constant disagreement and if your grammar wasn't notably insufficient. After reading it a few times, I think I understood what you were trying to say, I just didn't understand what you meant...or why you seem bent on discrediting Mayfest or downtown.

We had some festivals. They had several attendees. I think the point the thread's initial poster was trying to make is not debatable, so everything else is just...senseless.

"Make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men's blood and probably will not themselves be realized."
- Daniel Burnham

http://www.joemommastulsa.com

shadows


JB:

There were tons of people there.


I suppose the proper way to handle these titles would be to limit them the single word of "Agree or Disagree".   Then there would be no question as to what is in proper Shakespearian form used in answering the intent of the poster.

(If you had 400,000 in attendance with the average weight of 150 lbs, then you sure had tons of visitors.)   30,000 tons.

 
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

joiei

To get away from exact head counts, I was down at the Blue Dome on Friday afternoon and it was very busy.  A good friend who has been a vendor at the Blue Dome since its inception said they had the best year ever and the crowds were always around.  The only slow time they really had was during the dinner hour both Friday and Saturday evenings.  Otherwise their booth always had people in it looking and buying.  

This thread is about the fact that we had a successful Mayfest this year.  It isn't about the fair, Bell's, downtown in the 40s, Branson entertainment districts, France, how much food people eat, Elitists, OKC, or any other such off topic political statements.  It is about the fact that a lot of people showed up and helped make this years Mayfest a success for the artist vendors and for the city and downtown.
It's hard being a Diamond in a rhinestone world.

JoeMommaBlake

"Make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men's blood and probably will not themselves be realized."
- Daniel Burnham

http://www.joemommastulsa.com