Why do we need a new baseball stadium?

[MDepr2007]

With so much "Golden" hatred one has to wonder how Gold can stand to live in a city without the fancy items. I always wonder why people like Gold want others to move when all they want to do is protect their city, not change it into any other city that Gold could move to instead and have all the golden eggs they want.

Just an added question, why isn't Semgroup officed downtown?

[Gold]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

With so much "Golden" hatred one has to wonder how Gold can stand to live in a city without the fancy items. I always wonder why people like Gold want others to move when all they want to do is protect their city, not change it into any other city that Gold could move to instead and have all the golden eggs they want.

Just an added question, why isn't Semgroup officed downtown?

Why is Semgroup spread around the country?  I don't know, I don't work for them.

Plenty of other business thrive down here.

No hate from me.

FB quits posting or moves and I'll leave him alone.  Until then, his complete hatred for all development and progress needs to be called out.  He's a sorry person and I've had enough of his attacks on people I know personally -- good, hardworking folks who have pride in their city.  FB doesn't have pride in the city, much less pride in his effort to build a logical argument.

Why such poor argument from you?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Gold

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

With so much "Golden" hatred one has to wonder how Gold can stand to live in a city without the fancy items. I always wonder why people like Gold want others to move when all they want to do is protect their city, not change it into any other city that Gold could move to instead and have all the golden eggs they want.

Just an added question, why isn't Semgroup officed downtown?

Why is Semgroup spread around the country?  I don't know, I don't work for them.

Plenty of other business thrive down here.

No hate from me.

FB quits posting or moves and I'll leave him alone.  Until then, his complete hatred for all development and progress needs to be called out.  He's a sorry person and I've had enough of his attacks on people I know personally -- good, hardworking folks who have pride in their city.  FB doesn't have pride in the city, much less pride in his effort to build a logical argument.

Why such poor argument from you?

No hate from YOU?

Listen to yourself.

Have some more MetroTulsaChamberPot Kool-Aid, and go back to sleep.

[:O]

[RecycleMichael]

gold one   bear zero

(They might be the same person...golden bear)

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by Gold

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

With so much "Golden" hatred one has to wonder how Gold can stand to live in a city without the fancy items. I always wonder why people like Gold want others to move when all they want to do is protect their city, not change it into any other city that Gold could move to instead and have all the golden eggs they want.

Just an added question, why isn't Semgroup officed downtown?

Why is Semgroup spread around the country?  I don't know, I don't work for them.

Plenty of other business thrive down here.

No hate from me.

FB quits posting or moves and I'll leave him alone.  Until then, his complete hatred for all development and progress needs to be called out.  He's a sorry person and I've had enough of his attacks on people I know personally -- good, hardworking folks who have pride in their city.  FB doesn't have pride in the city, much less pride in his effort to build a logical argument.

Why such poor argument from you?

My fault, I left the blackberry on the plane and now I can't get the notes as everyone else to stay on the same page

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Gold

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

With so much "Golden" hatred one has to wonder how Gold can stand to live in a city without the fancy items. I always wonder why people like Gold want others to move when all they want to do is protect their city, not change it into any other city that Gold could move to instead and have all the golden eggs they want.

Just an added question, why isn't Semgroup officed downtown?

Why is Semgroup spread around the country?  I don't know, I don't work for them.

Plenty of other business thrive down here.

No hate from me.

FB quits posting or moves and I'll leave him alone.  Until then, his complete hatred for all development and progress needs to be called out.  He's a sorry person and I've had enough of his attacks on people I know personally -- good, hardworking folks who have pride in their city.  FB doesn't have pride in the city, much less pride in his effort to build a logical argument.

Why such poor argument from you?

No hate from YOU?

Listen to yourself.

Have some more MetroTulsaChamberPot Kool-Aid, and go back to sleep.

[:O]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Gold

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

With so much "Golden" hatred one has to wonder how Gold can stand to live in a city without the fancy items. I always wonder why people like Gold want others to move when all they want to do is protect their city, not change it into any other city that Gold could move to instead and have all the golden eggs they want.

Just an added question, why isn't Semgroup officed downtown?

Why is Semgroup spread around the country?  I don't know, I don't work for them.

Plenty of other business thrive down here.

No hate from me.

FB quits posting or moves and I'll leave him alone.  Until then, his complete hatred for all development and progress needs to be called out.  He's a sorry person and I've had enough of his attacks on people I know personally -- good, hardworking folks who have pride in their city.  FB doesn't have pride in the city, much less pride in his effort to build a logical argument.

Why such poor argument from you?

No hate from YOU?

Listen to yourself.

Have some more MetroTulsaChamberPot Kool-Aid, and go back to sleep.

[:O]

Regarding Gold's repeated personal attacks in this Forum, he knows this is a Political Topic in discussion forum.

The Rules of the Forum state "flaming, baiting and general trolling" are not allowed.

I don't see him being sanctioned for his repeated personal attacks.

His words aren't really harming me, but they do have a damaging effect on the quality of Forum discussion, and genuine Forum participants will simply start avoiding Tulsanow.org.

Making harsh comments about Tulsa Public Policy is allowed on this forum.  Some posters may not like those opinions.  However, those opinions are proper pursuant to the Forum Rules.

Making ugly comments about Forum participants, HOWEVER, which Gold is doing, is NOT allowed.

According to the Forum Rules.

So, what Gold has been REPEATEDLY doing since he accepted a Mission from God to in his own words, to run me out of Tulsa or out of this Forum, must actually be done with the approval of the Forum Administrators.

Right, Mr. and Ms. Forum Administrators???

Hmmmmh?

[:O]

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

With so much "Golden" hatred one has to wonder how Gold can stand to live in a city without the fancy items. I always wonder why people like Gold want others to move when all they want to do is protect their city, not change it into any other city that Gold could move to instead and have all the golden eggs they want.

Just an added question, why isn't Semgroup officed downtown?

Semgroup was only a handful of people once upon a time that has grown fast and had multiple offices. Maybe they will decide to build a headquartes at some point but I believe they bought First Data's old digs for a mint a few years ago.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Gold

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

With so much "Golden" hatred one has to wonder how Gold can stand to live in a city without the fancy items. I always wonder why people like Gold want others to move when all they want to do is protect their city, not change it into any other city that Gold could move to instead and have all the golden eggs they want.

Just an added question, why isn't Semgroup officed downtown?

Why is Semgroup spread around the country?  I don't know, I don't work for them.

Plenty of other business thrive down here.

No hate from me.

FB quits posting or moves and I'll leave him alone.  Until then, his complete hatred for all development and progress needs to be called out.  He's a sorry person and I've had enough of his attacks on people I know personally -- good, hardworking folks who have pride in their city.  FB doesn't have pride in the city, much less pride in his effort to build a logical argument.

Why such poor argument from you?

No hate from YOU?

Listen to yourself.

Have some more MetroTulsaChamberPot Kool-Aid, and go back to sleep.

[:O]

Regarding Gold's repeated personal attacks in this Forum, he knows this is a Political Topic in discussion forum.

The Rules of the Forum state "flaming, baiting and general trolling" are not allowed.

I don't see him being sanctioned for his repeated personal attacks.

His words aren't really harming me, but they do have a damaging effect on the quality of Forum discussion, and genuine Forum participants will simply start avoiding Tulsanow.org.

Making harsh comments about Tulsa Public Policy is allowed on this forum.  Some posters may not like those opinions.  However, those opinions are proper pursuant to the Forum Rules.

Making ugly comments about Forum participants, HOWEVER, which Gold is doing, is NOT allowed.

According to the Forum Rules.

So, what Gold has been REPEATEDLY doing since he accepted a Mission from God to in his own words, to run me out of Tulsa or out of this Forum, must actually be done with the approval of the Forum Administrators.

Right, Mr. and Ms. Forum Administrators???

Hmmmmh?

[:O]

So how is what you are doing not number two (baiting) and number three (general trolling)?

Maybe not number three, but I do see baiting in many of your posts.  And yours do on occasion have some personal attacks in there.  Just because the person you are attacking doesn't participate in this forum doesn't give you free reign to do so, IMO.

Personally, I'm sick of the back and forth.  You provide complaints but no suggestion of remedies.  To me, that makes you part of the problem.

[Gold]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Gold

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

With so much "Golden" hatred one has to wonder how Gold can stand to live in a city without the fancy items. I always wonder why people like Gold want others to move when all they want to do is protect their city, not change it into any other city that Gold could move to instead and have all the golden eggs they want.

Just an added question, why isn't Semgroup officed downtown?

Why is Semgroup spread around the country?  I don't know, I don't work for them.

Plenty of other business thrive down here.

No hate from me.

FB quits posting or moves and I'll leave him alone.  Until then, his complete hatred for all development and progress needs to be called out.  He's a sorry person and I've had enough of his attacks on people I know personally -- good, hardworking folks who have pride in their city.  FB doesn't have pride in the city, much less pride in his effort to build a logical argument.

Why such poor argument from you?

No hate from YOU?

Listen to yourself.

Have some more MetroTulsaChamberPot Kool-Aid, and go back to sleep.

[:O]

It's not hate, it's love.

I'm looking out for you, FB.

If you REALLY believe Tulsa is a Banana Republic that frustrates the liberty of the people who will lead it back to prosperity, get out.

If it's that bad, there's no reason to stay.

I even offered to pay the bus fair.

Otherwise, go rethink your nonsense and quit it with the libelous attacks on community leaders.

I love it when you go to the Tulsa Metrochamber koolaid bit . . . you're running out of material.

It's like Medlock talking about his MBA.  Oh wait . . .

Meanwhile, those of who get out of the house from time to time are trying to make a difference.

You sit around and complain about everything that happens.  You offer no alternatives.  No ideas.  Not even a funny remark.

Instead, it's the same tired BS about this conspiracy among a bunch of wealthy people and successful leaders (some who aren't all that wealthy) from you, over and over.  It doesn't help, but allows you to vent your jealousy.

Get out of the way and shut up or join up.  But this act has got to go.

[:O]  

[Gold]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Gold

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

With so much "Golden" hatred one has to wonder how Gold can stand to live in a city without the fancy items. I always wonder why people like Gold want others to move when all they want to do is protect their city, not change it into any other city that Gold could move to instead and have all the golden eggs they want.

Just an added question, why isn't Semgroup officed downtown?

Why is Semgroup spread around the country?  I don't know, I don't work for them.

Plenty of other business thrive down here.

No hate from me.

FB quits posting or moves and I'll leave him alone.  Until then, his complete hatred for all development and progress needs to be called out.  He's a sorry person and I've had enough of his attacks on people I know personally -- good, hardworking folks who have pride in their city.  FB doesn't have pride in the city, much less pride in his effort to build a logical argument.

Why such poor argument from you?

No hate from YOU?

Listen to yourself.

Have some more MetroTulsaChamberPot Kool-Aid, and go back to sleep.

[:O]

Regarding Gold's repeated personal attacks in this Forum, he knows this is a Political Topic in discussion forum.

The Rules of the Forum state "flaming, baiting and general trolling" are not allowed.

I don't see him being sanctioned for his repeated personal attacks.

His words aren't really harming me, but they do have a damaging effect on the quality of Forum discussion, and genuine Forum participants will simply start avoiding Tulsanow.org.

Making harsh comments about Tulsa Public Policy is allowed on this forum.  Some posters may not like those opinions.  However, those opinions are proper pursuant to the Forum Rules.

Making ugly comments about Forum participants, HOWEVER, which Gold is doing, is NOT allowed.

According to the Forum Rules.

So, what Gold has been REPEATEDLY doing since he accepted a Mission from God to in his own words, to run me out of Tulsa or out of this Forum, must actually be done with the approval of the Forum Administrators.

Right, Mr. and Ms. Forum Administrators???

Hmmmmh?

[:O]

I've got FB running for the hills now.

Poor FB.

FB's guide to posting:

1) Talk about the same non-sensical, circular conspiracy/tinfoil hat points over and over.  In no particular order, these may include: the Tulsa World, F&M Bank, BOk, the Lortons, Utica Square, Manhattan Construction, Kathy Taylor, Judge Wiseman, the failed effort to have the 2025 ballot declared unlawful (that the Plaintiff refused to appeal), crime downtown, and so on.

2)  If someone questions your knowledge, just make up facts such as "They shouldn't build a new stadium because they rarely sell out baseball games" or "the Drillers are bad even though the Texas league awards a first and second half champion" or "there is nothing downtown."

3)  If that doesn't work, break out the line about the Tulsa Metro chamber koolaid (haven't heard that one before).

4)  Never answer any questions, such as "what do you do for a living?" or "Can I buy you bus fair out of town?"

5)  Start threads about the exact same topic when you have been made to look a fool in a previous thread about the topic.

6)  Post the word "Poor" followed by the name of some civic leader you are jealous of.

7)  If all else fails, complain to the moderators based on some pretty conclusory logic.

I've read this forum off and on for a few years.  FB, your tone and lack of real insight into anything repeatedly have turned me away from reading this board.  So, I would argue it cuts two ways -- yeah, I should be nice, but you shouldn't be able to demean good, hardworking people and repeatedly post a bunch of lies that you don't even believe (no one can believe what you say, because if it was that bad, you'd move).  

I've been a moderator on different boards in the past and I follow a lot of these discussions.  I have a a lot of respect for their job and the value of good conversation.  I've tried to keep it funny and all I'm really doing is turning the tables on you -- you say much worse things about public and private figures.  I mean, if my silly bizarro "FB" thing gets you down this much, how are you going to get a job when you move to the next town when you finally accept my bus ticket?

Beyond that, you routinely show an inability to counter my points.  But, that gets back to you not getting out of the house much.

I mean, is it really that bad of a comment if it's true?

Poor FB.

[:O]

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

Regarding Gold's repeated personal attacks in this Forum, he knows this is a Political Topic in discussion forum.

The Rules of the Forum state "flaming, baiting and general trolling" are not allowed.

I don't see him being sanctioned for his repeated personal attacks.

His words aren't really harming me, but they do have a damaging effect on the quality of Forum discussion, and genuine Forum participants will simply start avoiding Tulsanow.org.

Making harsh comments about Tulsa Public Policy is allowed on this forum.  Some posters may not like those opinions.  However, those opinions are proper pursuant to the Forum Rules.

Making ugly comments about Forum participants, HOWEVER, which Gold is doing, is NOT allowed.

According to the Forum Rules.

So, what Gold has been REPEATEDLY doing since he accepted a Mission from God to in his own words, to run me out of Tulsa or out of this Forum, must actually be done with the approval of the Forum Administrators.

Right, Mr. and Ms. Forum Administrators???

Hmmmmh?

[:O]

Being effectively refuted at every turn of your specious remarks, F.B., is not trolling.

I've seen you trot out this "trolling" argument before. It's when you're getting the hell beat out of you on your arguments (for which I applaud Gold on a job well done).

If you insist on making dubious arguments, F.B., you have to expect they'll be challenged. You're a big bear; you can take it.

Hmmmmmh?

[}:)]

[Moderator]

This thread has deviated from the discussion of relevant issues and Friendly Bear has seen fit to start another thread questioning the need for a stadium and/or other items related to the efficacy therein.  No good can come from continuing this discussion.  

Please consider the closure of this thread a warning for participants to attempt to keep the discussion on the matter at hand and refrain from either personal attacks or other non-constructive behavior.  Please provide at least a scintilla of support for your contentions and in exchange attack ideas, not those presenting them.  There is room for cheerleader as well as dissent.


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