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Started by sgrizzle, March 03, 2008, 10:44:22 AM

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inteller

i wouldn't worry too much if colombia and chavez go to war.  The US is dying to wage a proxy war to see his donkey get taken out.

Steve

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I used to work for Citgo in Tulsa, from 1999 until May 2004.  I never once bought my car gas at a Citgo station, and never will.  I gladly took their generous payroll $, but refuse to spend my income $ on their product.

dbacks fan

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Originally posted by inteller

i wouldn't worry too much if colombia and chavez go to war.  The US is dying to wage a proxy war to see his donkey get taken out.



So if I understand you correctly, you would be in favor of the US supporting the drug cartel of Columbia to defeat Chavez with out the use of American troops, much in the way that we supported the Afghans against the Soviets? What would your plan be after the defeat? Pull out and let them figure it out? Sorry, but that would put the drug lords already here in competition with AlQuidea for running amuck in the US, and would probably be the perfect storm for the opium growers in Afghanistan to ally themsleves with the cocaine producers in Columbia and set the stage for the demise of the US.

But, then again, you see the glass as empty.

cannon_fodder

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Originally posted by dbacks fan


So if I understand you correctly, you would be in favor of the US supporting the drug cartel of Columbia



The current government in Columbia is strongly opposed to the drug cartels and engaged in physical conflict with them.  A step away from appeasement was contraversial at the time but is now met with wild popular support. The cartels got too violent against too many and lost popular support (face it,  most people just care about money flowing in.  The drug trade didn't turn them off, the ancillary violence did).

Hugo Chavez, on the other hand, supports them openly (FARC) and provides bases of operation and hospital services to their fighters.  He offered massive financial support as documented by a recent raid.  This is well established fact from the international media, not the US State department.  The revaluation of support has forced him to take a step back, lest he be labeled a sponsor of terror by the UN (a fact hard to spin on the media outlets the State of Venezuela has taken over).  

/and judos on resurrecting a 5 month old thread. [:P]
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dbacks fan

Thanks CF, I just got a little bent out of shape, and should have ignored the trolling. Some meditation and sleep helped immensely.