Senator Joe Biden, (D-MBNA)

[Conan71]

Biden has been carrying the water for the credit card companies, it turns out.  Remember the sham "Republican" bankruptcy reform, which makes it hard to impossible for a person to discharge credit card and consumer loan debt?

Brought to you, in part, by a big campaign contributions, and his lobbyist son.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/25/ap/politics/main4383450.shtml

http://www.pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/000966.html

There's no other way to spin it other than Joe sided with the large corporations over consumer welfare.  This bill was way, way wrong.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Biden has been carrying the water for the credit card companies, it turns out.  Remember the sham "Republican" bankruptcy reform, which makes it hard to impossible for a person to discharge credit card and consumer loan debt?

Brought to you, in part, by a big campaign contributions, and his lobbyist son.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/25/ap/politics/main4383450.shtml

http://www.pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/000966.html

There's no other way to spin it other than Joe sided with the large corporations over consumer welfare.  This bill was way, way wrong.

FOTD would hope Obama did not side with Biden %95 of the time. Besides, this is minor....very minor. Keep diggin'. We know your attraction to excrement.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Biden has been carrying the water for the credit card companies, it turns out.  Remember the sham "Republican" bankruptcy reform, which makes it hard to impossible for a person to discharge credit card and consumer loan debt?

Brought to you, in part, by a big campaign contributions, and his lobbyist son.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/25/ap/politics/main4383450.shtml

http://www.pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/000966.html

There's no other way to spin it other than Joe sided with the large corporations over consumer welfare.  This bill was way, way wrong.

FOTD would hope Obama did not side with Biden %95 of the time. Besides, this is minor....very minor. Keep diggin'. We know your attraction to excrement.

MINOR???  

Tell that to millions of Americans who have been hosed by credit card companies, time and time again.  Joe Biden, for all his talk about the common folk and their pain due to the "Bush economy" is one of the tools who helped propagate more fraud and pain on the American consumer.

This also looks like carefully-veiled corruption, considering the trail of contributions and the fact his son used to work for MBNA and was doing consulting for them.  Illegal to do that, no.  But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that legislators take care of those who pay them the most.

I simply cannot believe someone who runs on a platform of "Change" and as being an outsider would bring in one of the most senior members of the Senate.

This isn't real change, it's chump change.

Moving two chumps out of the White House and trying to move two more in.

[RecycleMichael]

I need to do more homework and hear the other party before I comment fully.

Biden has connections with a large credit card company based in Delaware, yes. His son worked for that firm, yes. He voted on bills as a Senator that affected credit cards, consumers, and bankruptcy laws, yes.

But you have to do more than that to have me think he was corrupt by it. Many large financial firms are based in Delaware and have been long before Biden was a Senator. He has a son who works for them, but they are a major employer and his other son is a soldier going to Iraq in a few months.

John McCain also voted for the bill. This website says that McCain was given more money than Biden by these same banking interests, $235,228 to $107,250 in the campaign times before the vote.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/bankruptcy/archives/2005/03/index.php

If you say Joe Biden took money from banks then supported bills that protected them, you gotta say the same about John McCain.

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael


If you say Joe Biden took money from banks then supported bills that protected them, you gotta say the same about John McCain.

You also have to say "Keating Five" five times real fast.

[waterboy]

If we're going to talk who carried water for whom and go digging for excrement, why not check out McCain's inlaws? The father in law who served time in prison for mobsters who rewarded him with a brewery whose proceeds now help pay for John's seven homes and campaigns.

I'll get the link later but I'm guessing you already know about it and have a good 'scuse ready.

Just Google Jim Hensley Kemper Marley or use this one http://judicial-inc.biz/82cindy_hensley.htm

He's not responsible for her family but I know how much Republicans value such info. And anyone who doesn't think a father in law doesn't have influence on his son in law, simply hasn't been there.

[Conan71]

I fail to see the relevance of McCain's FIL, unless McCain had been convicted and sent up with him.  

I especially fail to see how it relates to Joe Biden voting along with McCain on one of the worst pieces of consumer legislation ever authored.

Obama screwed up seriously picking Biden, especially since McCain picked a total outsider, located just about as far from D.C. as you could get, other than Honolulu.  All the partisan GOP hacks are going to have a hey-day until Nov. 4th picking the fleas off Biden.

Promise serious change, then pick one of the longest-serving members of the most corrupt institition in our government as a running mate.  Intelligent voters will see through this sham.

[waterboy]

What intelligent voters? Where? They didn't see through the shams of the last 8 years. In fact they hardly recognize them now.

I disagree that Biden is a worse pick than NoName unless you think she's a better pick because she is a smaller target. True enough. People who do things over long periods of time have much more to defend.

You see her as presidential material? Heartbeat away and able to deal with globa realities? I think Mayor Kathy would have been a better pick. Heck, she might even help carry Florida.[]