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Started by RecycleMichael, August 25, 2008, 09:19:26 AM

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guido911

#30
August 28, 2008, 07:13:09 PM
On second thought RM. The last part of my previous was a bit over the top and I apologize for the swipe (only).
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Hoss

#31
August 28, 2008, 08:23:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

On second thought RM. The last part of my previous was a bit over the top and I apologize for the swipe (only).


Not really surprising though...

guido911

#32
August 28, 2008, 08:35:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

On second thought RM. The last part of my previous was a bit over the top and I apologize for the swipe (only).


Not really surprising though...


Who asked you anything. I think RM is one of the more reasonable adversaries I have on this forum, which is why I thought my swipe at him was unnecessary. You, on the other hand, are simply a lefty bomb thrower with BDS.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Hoss

#33
August 28, 2008, 08:47:35 PM Last Edit: August 28, 2008, 08:52:41 PM by Hoss
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

On second thought RM. The last part of my previous was a bit over the top and I apologize for the swipe (only).


Not really surprising though...


Who asked you anything. I think RM is one of the more reasonable adversaries I have on this forum, which is why I thought my swipe at him was unnecessary. You, on the other hand, are simply a lefty bomb thrower with BDS.


Which is why you post your real name in your profile...

Hey, looky!



And just the fact that you threw 'BDS' out there begs me to ask the question:  do you want that Kool-Aid in grape or cherry?

RecycleMichael

#34
August 28, 2008, 09:24:33 PM
Thank you guido for the compliment. Thank you Hoss for trying to defend me.

I do change my mind often. I believe it is possible to learn new information and change while still having core values.

An example for me is capital punishment. I was opposed to it as a young man. I just believed it was against God's will for government to kill.

Then came the Murrah building bombing by Tomothy McVeigh. I was furious that he killed innocent people including a children in a day care for federal employees just doing their job. The event shook me. I had friends who were in that building and I had been in it just a few weeks before. I couldn't imagine how a human being could do that. He became less than a human being to me. I wanted him killed.

I had changed and I changed my attitude. I needed to.

My core value is that I don't my government killing it's prisoners. But I was open-minded enough to know that they needed to this time.
Power is nothing till you use it.

guido911

#35
August 28, 2008, 10:51:04 PM
Whatever "Hoss". You are boring me.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

iplaw

#36
August 30, 2008, 08:47:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nik

quote:
Originally posted by tulsacyclist

Yeah I'm trying to figure out why this even matters?


The only reason it matters is because the guy recently said the economy is fundamentally strong. Its easy to perceive the economy as strong when you have 7-10 houses. All the while trying to label Obama as an elitist and out-of-touch.
Despite the fact that democrats are trying to convince Americans that we're practically living in Rwanda, all economic indicators out for the last several months fail to back up these claims.  Even with high gas prices and rising food prices, our economy continues to grow.

http://voanews.com/english/2008-08-29-voa6.cfm

The dollar has been making headway against the euro and the pound and unemployment is lower than the average of the last 40 years.

Maybe the democrats are talking about the UK?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/aug/30/economy.alistairdarling

RecycleMichael

#37
August 30, 2008, 09:06:03 PM
Why am I losing money in the stock market if the economy is so strong? The Dow was over 14,000 last September...now it is 11,500.

The national average price of gasoline was $2.75 a gallon a year ago...now it is $3.75.

The U.S. unemployment rate last year at this time was $4.6%...today it is 5.7%.

I am sorry iplaw...there is no way you can say economic indicators say the economy continues to grow.
Power is nothing till you use it.

iplaw

#38
August 30, 2008, 09:10:15 PM Last Edit: August 30, 2008, 09:11:21 PM by iplaw
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Why am I losing money in the stock market if the economy is so strong? The Dow was over 14,000 last September...now it is 11,500.

The national average price of gasoline was $2.75 a gallon a year ago...now it is $3.75.

The U.S. unemployment rate last year at this time was $4.6%...today it is 5.7%.

I am sorry iplaw...there is no way you can say economic indicators say the economy continues to grow.
Did you actually read my post or the article I linked to?

Here is what it says:

The Commerce Department says U.S. economic growth in the April to June quarter showed a robust 3.3 percent annual rate of advance in gross domestic product.

Unemployment is lower than the average of the last 40 years.  5.7% is still damned good.

Oil is high, but despite that our economy is strong and growing.

Things are not nearly as bad as your party is making out to be.

As far as your stocks, may I suggest you talk with my CFP, I'm doing well right now...

Gaspar

#39
August 30, 2008, 09:17:30 PM
For this I will have to use Chris's dead horse. . .





Bla bla bla who cares.  I can't hate successful people or their successful wives, or their successful families.  

Envy is an ugly emotion.


When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

iplaw

#40
August 30, 2008, 09:24:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

For this I will have to use Chris's dead horse. . .





Bla bla bla who cares.  I can't hate successful people or their successful wives, or their successful families.  

Envy is an ugly emotion.



Well said.

Hoss

#41
August 30, 2008, 09:25:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

For this I will have to use Chris's dead horse. . .





Bla bla bla who cares.  I can't hate successful people or their successful wives, or their successful families.  

Envy is an ugly emotion.





I don't think it has anything to do with 'hating' or 'liking' the rich or better-off.

It has to do with the rich or better-off's perceived disconnect from the common-person when said rich or better-off person hasn't had to toil and sweat like most of us have to live our meager lives.

I'm all for people bettering themselves through wealth.  What I'm not for is for those people to automatically think it gives them reason to consider themselves smarter or wiser or somehow more entitled than you or I.

iplaw

#42
August 30, 2008, 09:36:09 PM
Someone should tell that to Ted Kennedy and Jay Rockefeller...

RecycleMichael

#43
August 30, 2008, 09:40:12 PM Last Edit: August 30, 2008, 09:42:06 PM by RecycleMichael
You are correct. The commerce department says the second quarter GDP was up 3.3% comparing second quarter to first quarter.

How about when the fourth quarter last year showed a negative .2% GDP and first quarter showed a 1.4% decline? The economy was so poor the last six months that it had nowhere to go but up.

By the way, the boost this quarter was helped by a 3.9% increase in government spending.

I am not saying the economy is terribly bad, but finding one factor saying the second quarter is up and declaring the economy is great just doesn't jive.

Power is nothing till you use it.

Hoss

#44
August 30, 2008, 10:11:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

Someone should tell that to Ted Kennedy and Jay Rockefeller...


And for that reason I don't like either of them.  Never liked Teddy and never really cared to follow Jay.
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