Nader's Raiders to Storm T-Town

[tim huntzinger]

Third Party Watch:

'On Thursday, September 18 at 12:45 p.m., Independent Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader will hold a news conference in room 156 of North Hall at Oklahoma State University. Following the news conference, he will be holding a rally in the auditorium, also in North Hall, 700 N Greenwood Ave, Oklahoma State University, Tulsa, OK 74106.

'The theme of the rally, "Open the Debates," reflects the Nader/Gonzalez Campaign's call for inclusive, democratic Presidential debates. Right now, they are limited to the candidates from the two corporate parties. The debates are controlled by the so-called Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD), a private corporation created by the Democratic and Republican Parties in 1987, which Walter Cronkite called an "unconscionable fraud" because the CPD format "defies meaningful discourse."

'Mr. Nader's remarks will include the onerous ballot access restrictions in Oklahoma for independent and third party candidates. The state has one of the harshest ballot access laws in the nation, requiring 43,913 valid signatures to qualify for the November ballot. A greater injustice is that write-in votes are not permitted, effectively limiting the voting choices of the population of an entire state.

'Oklahoma has the fifth highest uninsured rate in the nation. While Obama and McCain offer health care plans that would enrich private insurance companies at the expense of tax payers, the Nader/Gonzalez Campaign advocates a public health insurance system with private delivery and free choice of hospital and doctor.

'Mr. Nader will also address these and many other critical issues the major party candidates have taken "off the table" that the Nader/Gonzalez Campaign has put on the table, including:

– a comprehensive, negotiated military and corporate withdrawal date from Iraq; – a single-payer, private delivery, free-choice public health insurance system for all; – a living wage and repeal of the anti-union Taft-Hartley Act; – a no-nuke, solar-based energy policy supported by renewable, sustainable, energy-efficient sources; – a carbon tax to deter global warming; – an end to the corporate welfare and corporate crime that has resulted in millions losing pensions, savings and jobs and squandered tax dollars; and, – more direct democracy reflecting the preamble to our constitution which starts with "we the people," and not "we the corporations.""

WHO: Independent Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader
WHAT: Press Conference and Rally
WHEN: Thursday, September 18, 12:45 pm News Conference; 1 p.m. Rally
WHERE: News Conference, Room 156; Rally, Auditorium. North Hall, 700 N Greenwood Ave, Oklahoma State University, Tulsa, OK 74106.

Woo-hoooooo! I gets to waste my protest vote on Ralph! Wow! I did not even know he made the ballot!  That is great!

[FOTD]

Pathetic whiners.....little anarchists. Nader gave us Bush.

But vote for this dweeb if you want to get the angry white guy elected.

[two lumps of shugh]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Pathetic whiners.....little anarchists. Nader gave us Bush.

But vote for this dweeb if you want to get the angry white guy elected.

Joni Leviness, GPOK, responds on the TPFtalks listserv:

"Not to worry! The duopoly has a stranglehold on Oklahoma, there will only be Two candidates on our ballots, just as there were in '04 with No "Write In" No "neither of the above" just two. It's amazing to me with as Few voices as we have in American Politics that we further Censure and Silence ourselves based upon fabrication and fear tactics used by the media to keep us divided. ...but that's just me.
Peace,
joni"

BTW:  Joni extends an invitation, for a pre-event meet-up

"Activists are invited for some light fare and carpooling at 11:15 to 12:15 at PeaceHouse~Tulsa 1314 North Greenwood Ave. within the Unitarian Universalist Church of the Restoration."

[tim huntzinger]

quote:Originally posted by two lumps of shugh

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Pathetic whiners.....little anarchists. Nader gave us Bush.

But vote for this dweeb if you want to get the angry white guy elected.

Joni Leviness, GPOK, responds on the TPFtalks listserv:

"Not to worry! The duopoly has a stranglehold on Oklahoma, there will only be Two candidates on our ballots, just as there were in '04 with No "Write In" No "neither of the above" just two. It's amazing to me with as Few voices as we have in American Politics that we further Censure and Silence ourselves based upon fabrication and fear tactics used by the media to keep us divided. ...but that's just me.
Peace,
joni"

BTW:  Joni extends an invitation, for a pre-event meet-up

"Activists are invited for some light fare and carpooling at 11:15 to 12:15 at PeaceHouse~Tulsa 1314 North Greenwood Ave. within the Unitarian Universalist Church of the Restoration."

Will there be an opportunity to buy yard signs and bumper stickers?

[two lumps of shugh]

quote:Originally posted by tim huntzinger

quote:Originally posted by two lumps of shugh

Joni Leviness, GPOK, responds on the TPFtalks listserv:

"Not to worry! The duopoly has a stranglehold on Oklahoma, there will only be Two candidates on our ballots, just as there were in '04 with No "Write In" No "neither of the above" just two. It's amazing to me with as Few voices as we have in American Politics that we further Censure and Silence ourselves based upon fabrication and fear tactics used by the media to keep us divided. ...but that's just me.
Peace,
joni"

BTW:  Joni extends an invitation, for a pre-event meet-up

"Activists are invited for some light fare and carpooling at 11:15 to 12:15 at PeaceHouse~Tulsa 1314 North Greenwood Ave. within the Unitarian Universalist Church of the Restoration."

Will there be an opportunity to buy yard signs and bumper stickers?

According to Loralynne K <contact@votenader.org>

"yes! there will be."

E-mail Response Team
Nader for President 2008
P.O. Box 34103
Washington, D.C. 20043
www.votenader.org

[Double A]

Oklahoma's ballot access laws are onerous, IMO. They only serve to protect the duopoly of the Democratic and Republican parties in this state. A duopoly is not a Democracy.

[iplaw]

Speaking of that, did you hear about Barr's attempt to get both parties thrown off the ballot in Texas for missing the filing deadline?

http://blog.bobbarr2008.com/2008/08/27/mccain-and-obama-miss-filing-deadline-in-texas/

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

Speaking of that, did you hear about Barr's attempt to get both parties thrown off the ballot in Texas for missing the filing deadline?

http://blog.bobbarr2008.com/2008/08/27/mccain-and-obama-miss-filing-deadline-in-texas/

If the Democratic Party and the Republican Party's Presidential Candidates are allowed on the ballot in Texas it would be a travesty.

Tuck Fexas.

[two lumps of shugh]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Pathetic whiners.....little anarchists. Nader gave us Bush.

But vote for this dweeb if you want to get the angry white guy elected.

Dear City Father,

I'm afraid you're mistaken about the Nader effect in the 2000 elections.  What's pathetic is how right-wing Democrats hang on to their cherished myths about Nader, rather than look the facts straight in the mouth:  Nader had a mobilizing effect on the Democratic vote in 2000.

Read this political scientist's analysis:

"One in Ten Thousand:  Ralph Nader Takes on the Presidency"
Solon Simmons, University of Wisconsin Madison
in the Wisconsin Political Scientist
Summer 2004 Volume X Number 2


"It was the left that was mobilized in the 2000 election, not the right, and many of those on the left had some sympathy for Ralph Nader. Once these left leaners had dedicated some attention to the political process, some certainly reconsidered their support for Nader and cast a safety vote for Gore rather than risk throwing the election to George Bush. This means that some large number but small proportion of the Gore vote would not have voted for Gore had Ralph Nader not been in the race and reminded them what a left agenda could feel like. This small group of strategic voters may be understood to have been mobilized by Ralph Nader and captured in the final weeks of the campaign by Al Gore."
~Simmons, page 5

The Democrats are being saddled with the name of "the other war party".  The recent funding of the Iraq occupation granted more monies to a war-making president and a neo-conservative vice president, making it seem like the slur on the party will stick. There is a need for a peace party in the U.S., and independent candidates for President like Ralph Nader or Bob Barr.

[Hawkins]

Nader wasn't even on the ballot in Oklahoma last two times around was he?

[tim huntzinger]

No. OK has the most restrictive ballot access for POTUS in the nation, requiring 44K signatures to even appear on the ballot.

[rhymnrzn]

If for nothing else, Ralph Nader gets much credit in my book for giving his voice in righteous rebukes: he makes plain discernment out of the field of thickets.