Would love to look at Fregonese's tools and data

[cmoreno]

Anyone know where we can get ahold of the survey data that Fregonese presented at the workshop?

The presenter sped through his slides, and pointed out some demographic data, trends shaping tulsa's future, etc., but it seemed to me that there was a lot more there that he didn't have time to show.

I also expected to be able to go back to the planiTulsa website and see those surveys we took, and look at the results and citizen's comments, etc.  ...did they take that down?  or did they never post it in the first place?

I'd be interested in going back to see if the results and comments/ideas from the surveys match up with the maps that folks created; if those ideas made it through from one part of the process to the other.

[sgrizzle]

Here is some info:
http://www.planitulsa.com/presentations

[tim huntzinger]

Executive Summary here.

I must say I am always prepared for more BS and was more than ready to call BS on this project (I mean, how many consultants will it take?)  However, I am heartened by the responses of Tulsans and hope that this actually goes somewhere.

[cmoreno]

thanks!
as always, our good friend michael bates is on the case as well.  his article:

http://www.batesline.com/archives/2008/08/tulsas-ekg.html

has links to a lot of resources as well.  i'll be sure to go through those.  i did ask where the raw data was, and he said he'd expected to get it back in july.  ...maybe we can lean on them a little to get that posted for us.

the map exercise was great, but in order to truly create a comprehensive plan, IMO we really need to analyse some of these bigger issues and the concerns of citizens in a lot greater detail.

[AVERAGE JOE]

quote:Originally posted by cmoreno


the map exercise was great, but in order to truly create a comprehensive plan, IMO we really need to analyse some of these bigger issues and the concerns of citizens in a lot greater detail.

Nine more workshops to come. They're supposed to be small-area focused, which means a lot more detail.

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by AVERAGE JOE

quote:Originally posted by cmoreno


the map exercise was great, but in order to truly create a comprehensive plan, IMO we really need to analyse some of these bigger issues and the concerns of citizens in a lot greater detail.

Nine more workshops to come. They're supposed to be small-area focused, which means a lot more detail.

Theron Warlick told our table that the number of small area workshops had been reduced to 8, because of the addition of the transit workshop. You guys really need to get on the same page.

[cmoreno]

"transit workshop"?  what's that?

[AVERAGE JOE]

quote:Originally posted by Double A

quote:Originally posted by AVERAGE JOE

quote:Originally posted by cmoreno


the map exercise was great, but in order to truly create a comprehensive plan, IMO we really need to analyse some of these bigger issues and the concerns of citizens in a lot greater detail.

Nine more workshops to come. They're supposed to be small-area focused, which means a lot more detail.

Theron Warlick told our table that the number of small area workshops had been reduced to 8, because of the addition of the transit workshop. You guys really need to get on the same page.

8 + 1 = 9

[carltonplace]

That is some goofy math

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by AVERAGE JOE

quote:Originally posted by Double A

quote:Originally posted by AVERAGE JOE

quote:Originally posted by cmoreno


the map exercise was great, but in order to truly create a comprehensive plan, IMO we really need to analyse some of these bigger issues and the concerns of citizens in a lot greater detail.

Nine more workshops to come. They're supposed to be small-area focused, which means a lot more detail.

Theron Warlick told our table that the number of small area workshops had been reduced to 8, because of the addition of the transit workshop. You guys really need to get on the same page.

8 + 1 = 9

That's only 8 small area workshops, not the nine that have been promised. Unless, of course the transit workshop will only be confined to a small area. I can only imagine the howls of protest from the light rail mafia if that's the case. Goofy math indeed.

[MDepr2007]

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