Three councilors and a bunch of firemen

[sgrizzle]

This is what I'm talking about.. The average citizen is not going to understand that a union is doing the campaigning.

[cannon_fodder]

They have large yellow yard signs that say:

"TULSA FIREFIGHTERS FOR [whoever]"
[have picture on camera, will post]

The middle of the word "for" is the union logo.  There is absoultely NO WAY that you can see the logo from the road.  If you could see the logo there is no way a normal person would assume the union was campaigning as it is a tenth the size as TULSA FIREFIGHTERS. 

Much like how Steve Gallo uses the Marine Corps logo for his "O", it doesn't mean the Marines are campaigning for Steve Gallo.  It goes to show he was a Marine and supports defense.  One would assume the union logo would indicate the candidate supports labor unions.

If "TULSA FIREFIGHTERS FOR [candidate X]" and knocking door to door and identifying yourself as a member of a city-employed group doesn't run afoul of the "no campaigning" law, what the hell does?  Do they have to have bumper stickers on the fire trucks before it counts?

I need to find a $75,000 a year government job that requires minimal actual work and spend my 4 days off a week campaigning to make sure no one takes a closer look at my Golden Goose.

[custosnox]

and then there is this one that was in the right of way

[AngieB]

I wonder when the firemen are going to pick up all the signs they put out?

[shadows]

I wonder when the firemen are going to pick up all the signs they put out?

Surely one would not expect them to cleanup the city on their two day rest period after spending one day a the fire station?

[AngieB]

Still seeing a lot of Rhoades signs around...guess the firemen have been really busy.

[cannon_fodder]

I wish *some* groups would show that they are responsible and pick up their litter after violating election laws.

On a related note:  the firefighters have been given months now to find documentation of required EMT training for all persons receiving an extra $900 a year for having it.   For at least 16 firefighters they have been totally unable to come up with the documentation. 

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090929_11_0_Sxenfr972197

I do CLE every year.  While there generally you have to sign in.  It is finished I get a certificate showing I did the hours.  I file a report with the BAR showing I did the hours.  I file an expense report with my firm to be reimbursed for the cost of getting the hours.  I could probably show in four different ways that I had my CLE hours last year.

My continued ability to do my job requires additional training hours.  I don't get an extra $900 a year for doing what I am supposed to.  And I don't get to just sign a piece of paper saying "yeah, I did it."    Seriously failure of internal control.

[shadows]

My continued ability to do my job requires additional training hours.  I don't get an extra $900 a year for doing what I am supposed to.  And I don't get to just sign a piece of paper saying "yeah, I did it."    Seriously failure of internal control.

CF: You tread into the territory where even the angles refuse to tread.  There was a fire and police commissioner who established the police training academy who wanted to change the firemen scheduled to where they worked 8 hour shifts and school the policemen to act as standby firemen thus reducing the number of firemen needed.  His theory was they were in communications on the streets and could respond quicker to save lives by removing people from burning buildings as the first responders. 

They published the daily fire runs but now I cannot seem to find them.  What happened?