Can someone explain to me why 81st and Harvard is being worked on???

[Mike 01Hawk]

As you know, the intersection @ 81st and Harvard was widened considerably quite a few years back.

I thought the work was great, it looked clean and orderly.

But now for HOW many months have they been working on the intersection? To do what specifically? Remove the concrete lane dividers?  What a joke  

I saw the billboard "Progress as Promised" and had myself a chuckle... there was NOTHING wrong w/ the intersection to begin with!

What a waste of $.

<--- Grumble.

[FOTD]

As you know, the intersection @ 81st and Harvard was widened considerably quite a few years back.

I thought the work was great, it looked clean and orderly.

But now for HOW many months have they been working on the intersection? To do what specifically? Remove the concrete lane dividers?  What a joke  

I saw the billboard "Progress as Promised" and had myself a chuckle... there was NOTHING wrong w/ the intersection to begin with!

What a waste of $.

<--- Grumble.

You are absolutely correct. My thinking is it lies between Holland Hall and ORU....but who is establishing the priorities? Let me guess.....Charlie Hardt? It is taking way too long and makes for little if any improvement...what a joke. Where are all the republicans ranting about waste in government?

[Conan71]

I had no idea, I haven't driven through there in probably a year.  Removing the concrete turn lane curb, thingies???

That is a total rip-off!  Kinda like having to re-pave the recently re-paved 61st St. blunder.

Someone please explain logically why director of pubic works should NOT be an at-will position.  Hardt has ZERO accountability to the tax payers.

[Mike 01Hawk]

A Google Street View Link is worth a thousand words

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=E+81st+St,+Tulsa,+Oklahoma&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=53.300127,79.013672&ie=UTF8&cd=2&geocode=FR0GJgIdUORI-g&split=0&hq=&hnear=E+81st+St,+Tulsa,+Oklahoma&ll=36.047217,-95.939366&spn=0.006714,0.009645&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=36.046375,-95.939935&panoid=pMmuvhU1PeDQ7J2E-Bio7w&cbp=12,89.68,,0,5

This was pre-'renovation' btw.  As you can see, the intersection was already widened.  The only thing I can see that the 'renovation' is doing is removing those 6 inch high curb turn lane dividers in all 4 directions north, east, south, and west.

[tshane250]

From the City of Tulsa's website: City of Tulsa

East 81st Street and South Harvard Avenue: Work is under way to improve storm sewers and to repair concrete pavement. One lane in each direction is closed at the intersection. Also:

East 81st Street, South Harvard Avenue to South Yale Avenue: Workers are flagging traffic during street rehabilitation.

This project, which includes both the intersection of 81st Street and Harvard Avenue and 81st Street between Harvard Avenue and Yale Avenue, is scheduled for completion in three months. The City of Tulsa has contracted with Pavement Conservation Specialists Inc. for this $1.2 million project funded by the 2005 General Obligation Bond Issue.

[cannon_fodder]

That was a priority over the off road experience at 31st and Harvard?

31st and Harvard has 84,000 vehicles a day on 8 lanes with a left turn lane (no right turn lanes).  The pavement is totally spent, I fear breaking something on my SUV.  The roadway actually leaks water from time to time. When it rains hard the approaching right lane on Harvard is not usable.   I routinely take the side streets to avoid waiting 2 or 3 lights at that intersection during "rush" hour even when dry.

81st and Harvard has 55,000 vehicles a day on 8 lanes of traffic with 8 left turn lanes and 8 right turn lanes.  The pavement is pristine.  I've never had to wait or even fear waiting more than one light.

But we prioritize the lower volume, better equipment, newly refurbished intersection?   Then we sit back and wonder why our roads suck.


P.S.:  INCOG, just put the information in a damn PDF.
http://map2.incog.org/website/traffic/viewer.htm

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[PepePeru]

31st and Harvard has to be one of the worst.

In fact, Harvard, in general is probably the worst arterial in the entire city.

[Townsend]

31st and Harvard has to be one of the worst.

In fact, Harvard, in general is probably the worst arterial in the entire city.

I believe 31st and Harvard along with Yale between 21st and 31st are scheduled for 2012.