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President Obama Gets Ripped For Oval Office Speech

Started by Conan71, June 16, 2010, 02:44:21 PM

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Conan71

Jindahl could come out of this spill looking pretty damn good as a proven leader. He would be able to go toe-to-toe with President Obama in a comparison/contrast Of true leadership and problem-solving on a major crisis.  He can also honestly speak of a large and deft Federal Govt which tied his hands and must be pruned. That plays right to the Tea Partiers.  You can point to Giuliani as a failure in parlaying 911 into the Presidency, but he wasn't quite "conservative enough". 

We should already be hearing some other name-dropping coming up soon as they will start campaigning right after MT 2010.   
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rwarn17588

Quote from: Conan71 on June 21, 2010, 05:46:26 PM
He can also honestly speak of a large and deft Federal Govt which tied his hands and must be pruned.


Deft? You, of all people, calling the federal government deft? As in skillful and dexterous?  ???

rwarn17588

Quote from: Conan71 on June 21, 2010, 05:46:26 PM
Jindahl could come out of this spill looking pretty damn good as a proven leader. He would be able to go toe-to-toe with President Obama in a comparison/contrast Of true leadership and problem-solving on a major crisis.  He can also honestly speak of a large and deft Federal Govt which tied his hands and must be pruned. That plays right to the Tea Partiers.  You can point to Giuliani as a failure in parlaying 911 into the Presidency, but he wasn't quite "conservative enough". 

We should already be hearing some other name-dropping coming up soon as they will start campaigning right after MT 2010.   

On an aside, I'm not sure what the hell the Tea Partiers stand for. If they really wanted smaller government, then they wouldn't shout "Hands off my Medicare" and other such head-scratchers at rallies.

I think they maybe want smaller government, but only with programs that don't affect them. That's not exactly what I would call sound fiscal policy -- especially when entitlements and defense are the big bugaboos in the budget.

nathanm

Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 21, 2010, 04:50:53 PM
I'm surprised you didn't mention Huckabee, who's probably the strongest of the bunch.
It's unfortunate he's such a troglodyte when it comes to women's rights and gay rights. Otherwise, he's a pretty decent fellow. When he was governor in Arkansas he pulled a Bush the Elder and significantly raised taxes when it became necessary.
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heironymouspasparagus

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Don't forget - Reagan raised taxes 3 times after he cut them once.  Then Bush I raised them (twice, I think).  Billy Bob raised them once - small one.

Also, they were slavering over Carter for 28 years.  Unjustified, of course, but didn't stop the lies and BS.  All the problems that came about in the late '70s actually started during Ford's last year or so and directly caused by wage and price controls put in place by Nixon.  Just exactly like the effect that wage and price controls had after WWII in roughly 46 to 48.  Gotta know the history!  Classic reason why ya don't stop at 1983 for "going back" in history.

And isn't amazing how in mid January 1981 we had 15% inflation?  And then 2 weeks later Reagan's guys claimed it had already improved to 6%.  They changed the way it was calculated.  It was the same 15%, just "adjusted" for inflation.

Kind of like how Bush II supposedly "only" had 300 and 400 billion deficits.  Well, when Obama got in, he stopped leaving ALL the supplemental war appropriations off budget for deficit calculations.  (Still fell to the bottom line of debt, but made it look like the deficits were smaller than reality.)  When you add all those off budget supplementals, it ain't that much more now than then.

But telling the truth wouldn't keep Bush "in the game", so to speak.





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