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State of the Union Speech Jan-2012

Started by RecycleMichael, January 25, 2012, 07:37:30 AM

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Conan71

#15
January 25, 2012, 04:14:39 PM
Quote from: nathanm on January 25, 2012, 03:41:56 PM
Congress wouldn't take action on the largest domestic issues facing us this side of the economy and he's supposed to...stop talking about it?

ODS in full force.

That argument would work if it weren't for the little fact that Obama had a Democrat-controlled house for a whole year after his 2010 SOTU.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

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January 25, 2012, 04:16:27 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on January 25, 2012, 04:14:39 PM
That argument would work if it weren't for the little fact that Obama had a Democrat-controlled house for a whole year after his 2010 SOTU.

I seem to recall that the video only produced a couple of examples of repetition from 2010. Most of the comparisons were to 2011. Regardless, for better or worse, Obama does not control Congressional Democrats.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

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January 25, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: nathanm on January 25, 2012, 04:16:27 PM
I seem to recall that the video only produced a couple of examples of repetition from 2010. Most of the comparisons were to 2011. Regardless, for better or worse, Obama does not control Congressional Democrats.

Funny Bush didn't seem to have that problem.

A really good leader gets his troops to follow.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

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January 25, 2012, 04:21:01 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on January 25, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Funny Bush didn't seem to have that problem.

A really good leader gets his troops to follow.

Now you've gone and used the Bush word.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

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January 25, 2012, 04:22:39 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on January 25, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Funny Bush didn't seem to have that problem.

A really good leader gets his troops to follow.

They were accused of being "un-American" if they didn't tow the line...un-'muric'n.

nathanm

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January 25, 2012, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on January 25, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Funny Bush didn't seem to have that problem.

A really good leader gets his troops to follow.

If you look at measures of ideology among members of Congress, the Republicans are and have long been a lot closer together than Democrats are to each other. Whether that's an effect of the more top down leadership of the Republican caucus or the cause of it I don't know.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

#21
January 25, 2012, 04:34:58 PM
Quote from: nathanm on January 25, 2012, 04:26:25 PM
If you look at measures of ideology among members of Congress, the Republicans are and have long been a lot closer together than Democrats are to each other. Whether that's an effect of the more top down leadership of the Republican caucus or the cause of it I don't know.

I think it was more along the lines of collusion as they systemically raided the treasury from January 2001 to January 2007.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan
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