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zoning change at 21st and Boston

Started by AquaMan, May 27, 2014, 07:23:37 PM

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AquaMan

Go by there at 5:05 to 5:30 pm. Its hilarious. Cars backed up for two blocks each way and no one crossing the street. Then, another light a block further. You can almost see people mouthing the words, "pancakes?" I can't turn left on Boston or Detroit to get to my area.

But its not the light, its that they have made it automatic rather than pedestrian actuated.

note: not actually pancakes but the normally accepted txt version of dismay and irritation. ;)
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DowntownDan

Quote from: AquaMan on May 28, 2014, 06:08:40 PM
Go by there at 5:05 to 5:30 pm. Its hilarious. Cars backed up for two blocks each way and no one crossing the street. Then, another light a block further. You can almost see people mouthing the words, "pancakes?" I can't turn left on Boston or Detroit to get to my area.

But its not the light, its that they have made it automatic rather than pedestrian actuated.

note: not actually pancakes but the normally accepted txt version of dismay and irritation. ;)

If that's true, I'd agree that the joggers should have to activate it only when necessary.

AngieB

Quote from: AquaMan on May 28, 2014, 04:03:12 PM
About three times per week. I didn't mind the pedestrian actuated lights for those with strollers or kids but the automatic interval traffic light is overkill and counter productive.
Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you're saying, but that light is not automatic. You have to push the button. Sometimes it may look like it's automatic because the light lasts much longer than the time needed to cross.

AquaMan

Quote from: AngieBrumley on May 29, 2014, 08:55:33 AM
Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you're saying, but that light is not automatic. You have to push the button. Sometimes it may look like it's automatic because the light lasts much longer than the time needed to cross.


They changed it last week. Now it changes by itself and still lasts too long. You can interrupt the cycle by pushing the button but even when no one is around it will cycle.
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rdj

The NW corner is three seperate parcels totaling about 24,000 sq ft or a little more than half an acre.  They are owned by an LLC whose registered agent also owns the single family home to the north of this land.  Adding that dirt would up it to almost 3/4 of an acre.  I know of the ownership group, not sure what their plans are.  They have owned and developed many properties in midtown and operated businesses and restaurants in midtown over the years.  I would expect something good to come from this change.
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AquaMan

Glad to hear that. Maybe it will stimulate some action on the other vacant lots nearby.
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SXSW

Quote from: AquaMan on May 29, 2014, 10:36:10 AM
Glad to hear that. Maybe it will stimulate some action on the other vacant lots nearby.

Are the lots across 21st still for sale?  I really liked Paul Coury's latest plans for the rowhouses similar to what he still building on the hill above along 22nd.  It is pretty close to being built out with the last couple under construction.  Rowhouses on 22nd are probably an easier sell than busy 21st but at least you'd be across from the park. 
 

AngieB

Quote from: AquaMan on May 29, 2014, 09:14:54 AM
They changed it last week. Now it changes by itself and still lasts too long. You can interrupt the cycle by pushing the button but even when no one is around it will cycle.

Who's the genius that decided that was a good idea?  >:(

Ibanez

Quote from: AquaMan on May 29, 2014, 09:14:54 AM
They changed it last week. Now it changes by itself and still lasts too long. You can interrupt the cycle by pushing the button but even when no one is around it will cycle.

Yes, it is horrible now. Totally pointless.

Stanley1

They could at least sync it up with the other light right up the road, but it's not. 

I agree, terrible idea.

davideinstein

Why would they change that light from the push-button?

More brilliance from the city.

AquaMan

Perhaps a path user made the request? Vandals have almost ripped the push button unit off the post.
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sgrizzle

ahem... building

Hearing the sign has now been moved and is now by an office building next door and not the apartments....

AquaMan

I noticed that. Good news and my views are now on the record as to the apartment building!

I wonder if it affected the actual notice period required.
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dioscorides

I ran through 21st street crosswalk this morning.  The push buttons have been replaced and are working again.
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