Channels vote probably won't happen any time soon

[perspicuity85]

I know the 40% thing is dead, it just boggles my mind that the Boeing thing made the Vision 2025 ballot.  The problem with the Channels is that it was the only proposal of its kind given.  We need to see what other options are out there- and we need to work with people like the stakeholders to do it.  Anyone who has ever had an economics course should know what "opportunity cost" is.  The opportunity cost to Tulsa of not producing something that draws people in is HUGE.  Northwest Arkansas is one of the fastest growing areas in the US right now, and is less than two hours away.  Knowing several people who live there, I can say that the general knowledge about Tulsa is almost non-existant.  Places like NW Ark have to be realized as potential markets for Tulsa attractions.  We have to have an answer to this question: what does Tulsa have that NW Ark, Wichita, or Springfield, MO doesn't?

It is critically important for Tulsa's potential future to produce some kind of large scale urban entertainment base.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by perspicuity85

I know the 40% thing is dead, it just boggles my mind that the Boeing thing made the Vision 2025 ballot.  The problem with the Channels is that it was the only proposal of its kind given.  We need to see what other options are out there- and we need to work with people like the stakeholders to do it.  Anyone who has ever had an economics course should know what "opportunity cost" is.  The opportunity cost to Tulsa of not producing something that draws people in is HUGE.  Northwest Arkansas is one of the fastest growing areas in the US right now, and is less than two hours away.  Knowing several people who live there, I can say that the general knowledge about Tulsa is almost non-existant.  Places like NW Ark have to be realized as potential markets for Tulsa attractions.  We have to have an answer to this question: what does Tulsa have that NW Ark, Wichita, or Springfield, MO doesn't?

It is critically important for Tulsa's potential future to produce some kind of large scale urban entertainment base.

We would love to work with people like the stakeholders on other ideas. However they have made it clear they don't really want to work with people and there are no other ideas in their opinion.

[cks511]

I just noticed that The Channels section on the INCOG website is gone.  And I never heard anything further on the study they were doing.  Could it be they have gone underground?  LOL.

[aoxamaxoa]

darn...and I was hoping for a high rise with a semi sunset view of the power plant in the foreground... and the nightly patio cookouts with the scent of the refineries to get my juices flowing.

[TheArtist]

^Might I suggest the Mc Birney Mansion its in the same area and up for sale.

[aoxamaxoa]

The posties here have a hard time understanding sarcasm.

Lighten up. Hard for Tulsans to do. Too God fearing....

[carltonplace]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

^Might I suggest the Mc Birney Mansion its in the same area and up for sale.

I've seen the plans for the McBirney, it won't be on the market much longer.

[Sangria]

quote:Originally posted by cks511

I just noticed that The Channels section on the INCOG website is gone.  And I never heard anything further on the study they were doing.  Could it be they have gone underground?  LOL.

I hope they haven't gone underground. That's when things get scarey. That's when we wake up one morning and it's a done deal.

[cks511]

My point exactly and now with the 'next big thing' having popped up for the westside, me thinks we have some very unusual bed partners, undercover of course.  There's ALWAYS more to the story.  My two cents only of course.

Oh and Aox, I understand sarcasm, I got it. I laughed.

[aoxamaxoa]

The channelers put the cement plant under option just to avoid this type of competition. The people from Branson seem more likely to pull something off. But the Warrens have the option. This could get intersting.

[RecycleMichael]

The Arkansas River and downtown Tulsa.
TOM GILBERT / Tulsa World file

This op-ed piece by the Mayor is interesting. She wants water in the river and banks beautified and developed before we discuss other things like islands.

Mayor Taylor to lead in river plans
By KATHY TAYLOR
Tulsa World  12/3/2006

Perhaps it is the launching of Oklahoma's year of centennial celebrations. Perhaps it is a newly discovered sense of youthful optimism. Or perhaps it is an idea that has finally found its time. But make no mistake, Tulsa is buzzing with a new dialogue and a new kind of confidence. Innovative ideas are coming forward to revitalize downtown and bold new plans are surfacing to address one of our greatest assets: the mighty Arkansas River that flows through the heart and soul of our great city.
Tulsa has a proud history. The visionaries who spread out the blueprints for this city were not thinking small. They envisioned, and ultimately built, a city that would stand shoulder to shoulder with any in the world. So, it is no surprise that Tulsans are once again stepping forward with bold new ideas for river development that could impact our future for generations to come.

What I know is that many innovative plans for river development have been proposed and are on the table for discussion and debate. What I know is that these plans all have one common core element that will need to be in place before any development takes shape -- a sustainable flow of water in the river.

What I know is that it is time for action and it is time to make river development a priority.

In the coming weeks, I will take the lead to build the team that will directly address this issue for Tulsa. We will ensure that any development in or along the river will protect the integrity of the levee systems and other existing infrastructure to protect against floods. Once water is flowing in the river, and once its banks are beautified and developed, we can pursue the next generation of transformative ideas that will make Tulsa one of the world's great cities again. While realization of any visionary plan that is ultimately adopted will be a lengthy process, I will ensure we see activity on the river in the next year.

Now is the time to move ahead and I believe that Tulsa is a city poised for great things. The recent plans brought forward by many of our own modern visionaries have served to remind us that our opportunities are limited only by our imaginations and our willingness to embrace new ideas.

Let's get started!