COT PUBLIC DISWERKS

[aoxamaxoa]

Anyone else see what a lame department this is and it is the cities largest and most important division.

We used to be "America's Most Beautiful City". Not since these two faced lying bastards took over back in the mid 80's...

With these permanent department heads, the city has never looked worse.

[meeciteewurkor]

What's your address and I'll be sure to not show up when you call about a water main making a river out of your street.
We're not all bad.  I promise.
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[aoxamaxoa]

Not the hard working people in the field, but the superior power heads making and breaking policy and turning a blind eye to their own codes...

[RecycleMichael]

This sounds like just generic complaints without any basis.

I know many of the city public works employees, including many of the top management and I think they are generally hard working and caring public servants.

They deliver water, fix my roads, pick up my trash, take away my sewage and protect my home from flooding seven days a week.

They get no credit for the job being done and nobody fights to give them pay raises, even though going into a manhole is the most dangerous job in the city.

The public works employees took pay cuts and were forced to reduce their budgets by ten percent during each of the LaFortune years, yet continued to get the job done.

Many of us went down to watch the centennial show on Saturday night last week. Few saw the dozens of public works employees who spent all night and all day Sunday cleaning up from the party.  

I am sure that you can find some of the thousand plus public works employees who are less than stellar, but unless you have a real complaint and not just random attacks, you should keep quiet.

[aoxamaxoa]

Amazingly, COT Public Works has FINALLY decided to coordinate the street lights down 71st through the 169 intherchange to help motorists get down this horrific corridor. They caused this debacle in 1994 by not requiring out of state developers to install turn lanes off 169.

No wonder citizens can't stand this part of town. I doubt this callibration will help. But it's a long delayed start.

Recycle, I know numerous breaches by the department heads over the years which were inconsistant with their rules and policies. Many times which decisions were made which adversley affected our city and the taxes given them to oversee.

Nobody here just making accusations out of the blue. Their behavior has bordered criminal at times. Both their private and public behavior showed questionable morals.

[RecycleMichael]

Again, nothing but innuendo.

The one specific thing you mention is requiring out of state developers to build turn lanes off 169.

Which out-of-state developers are responsible for highway turn lanes?

How is Public Works department to blame?

Please, give some specifics.

[aoxamaxoa]

quote:Originally posted by recyclemichael

Again, nothing but innuendo.

The one specific thing you mention is requiring out of state developers to build turn lanes off 169.

Which out-of-state developers are responsible for highway turn lanes?

How is Public Works department to blame?

Please, give some specifics.

Do you have relationships with people in the Public Works department?

My allegations are NOT innuendo. Hawkins Smith was a developer that comes to mind. I have a long list of items where exceptions to policy and rules were clearly bypassed because the Chamber or a corporation or a person or developer of power and prestige stepped in and got special treatment or because the managers of Public Works felt the rule or policy needed to be ignored in a specific case for them to cover their asses. They are two faced and they have committed many infractions to the detriment of neighbors, developers, and even the city itself.

It's time for big changes at Public Works! Just drive down our streets or observe what happens during heavy rain. The fault lines on Harvard between 51st and 61st are horrible. The drainage there is incredibly pathetic. There are many more areas in town being totally redone the wrong way to save a penny. These people are the epitome of "penny wise, pound foolish."

When Mr. Hardt leaves, the city will be worse off visually and structurally than when he arrived. We were still America's most beautiful city in 1983. He was hired as a hydrologist to help with flooding and has proven the Peter principal to be correct ever since JD left.

[meeciteewurkor]

quote: I have a long list of items where exceptions to policy and rules were clearly bypassed because the Chamber or a corporation or a person or developer of power and prestige stepped in and got special treatment or because the managers of Public Works felt the rule or policy needed to be ignored in a specific case for them to cover their asses.

Have to agree with you there..
I've watched contracts verbally changed on the fly, simply because it suits a particular contractor's wishes.
Seems to be a common practice with our dear city, eh?  Not just public works, for sure.

[aoxamaxoa]

Our poor streets. Once this stuff clears it will be pothole city. They used to crack fill before winter but now it looks like it got axed in the budget clamp down. Penny wise, pound foolish. And this is just the beggining of winter. 2 or 3 of these type freezes will really undo those dollar outlays for resurfacing. The impression by tourists during the PGA should be interesting.

[aoxamaxoa]

Well well. We all want our city to survive. But the taxpayer will some day wake up and read between the lines....

"If there is no federal money, the city will have to look at what areas of the Public Works Department budget that it can legally tap to cover the costs, said Keith Eldridge, the city's budget operations manager. "

Legally tap? Wonder if there is any illegal gerrymandering or conversion of our funds in that department.....

http://www.tulsaworld.com/NewsStory.asp?ID=070117_Ne_A6_Tulsa10123

The Public Works Department is the slush fund that seems to cover overdrafts by the city. And people think Great Planes and McGill have cost us dearly. We know nothing.....