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Started by Ed W, November 11, 2012, 07:44:09 PM

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heironymouspasparagus

The petition to allow Texas to "peacefully" part ways from the United States was submitted through the White House's We the People function. It allows citizens to submit any question or petition and promises an official response after they get a certain number of signatures. In this case, the threshold was 25,000, which was easily met.



The answer will be no.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

nathanm

Texas, the state with a 2.6 billion dollar budget gap, is talking about living within their means?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Hoss

Let's hope they can act on it better than they can spell it.


Townsend

Secession petition: Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley rejects secessionists

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83837.html

QuoteAlabama Gov. Robert Bentley governor does not support a petition calling for the state's secession, his spokesman says.
"Governor Bentley believes in one nation under God. While there is frustration with the federal government, Governor Bentley believes that states can be great laboratories of change," the Republican governor's spokeswoman Jennifer Ardis told AL.com Tuesday.


Ardis continued: "As our leaders in Washington look for strategies to address America's financial challenges, Alabama is working hard toward saving a billion dollars annually by right-sizing government. We can disagree on philosophy, but we should work together to make this country the best it can be. Our nation's leaders can look at states like Alabama as they work to get our country back on a better and more prosperous track."

On Wednesday, a petition calling for Alabama's secession garnered the 25,000 signatures needed for a White House response.

Earlier this week, Texas Gov. Rick Perry's spokeswoman said he does not support a similar petition in his state which calls for Texas to secede. Since the election, a slew of state petitions calling for secession have emerged.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83837.html#ixzz2CDOSpmhn

It's super that these governors take this seriously enough to comment on it.

Townsend

And then our Governor throws in:

QuoteQuote of the day: "Oklahoma is not going to secede from the union."

-Governor Mary Fallin, responding to a petition asking for Oklahoma to secede that was posted following the reelection of President Obama

From Oklahoma Policy Institute's FB post.

Just a big gaggle of stupid flitting about.

custosnox

Personally, I kinda like this one
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/strip-citizenship-everyone-who-signed-petition-secede-and-exile-them/ZbMjcwPf

QuoteStrip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them
Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported.

But then again, it does mean stripping those who signed them just to try and get rid of dead weight from the union.

Personally, I just signed it in hopes of seeing what the response would be if it reached the total amount needed.

Townsend

Secession petitions now filed for all 50 states

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/secession-petitions-now-filed-50-states-183500440.html

QuotePetitions signed by hundreds of thousands of Americans seeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the union have now been filed for all 50 states on the White House website.

The secession petition push began last week on the site's We The People section after a Slidell, La., man filed a petition on Nov. 7 to allow Louisiana to secede. Residents from other states followed suit.

As of Wednesday afternoon, North Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana and Texas—all states that voted for former Gov. Mitt Romney—as well as Florida each had accumulated more than 25,000 signatures, the threshold needed to trigger an official response from the Obama administration. Collectively, the secession petitions now have more than 700,000 digital signatures.

Texas is in the lead with more than 99,000, but Gov. Rick Perry said on Tuesday that he does not support secession.

"Gov. Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it," a statement from the governor's office read. "But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government."

Meanwhile, residents of Austin, Texas' stubbornly liberal stronghold, have petitioned the White House to allow the city to "withdraw from the state of Texas [and] remain part of the United States."

Of course, the petitions are little more than symbolic—and nothing new. Similar petitions were filed after the 2004 and 2008 elections. And at least one petition filed on the site asks that the president sign an executive order to strip U.S. citizenship from anyone who signed a petition to secede and requests that they are "peacefully deported."

Secession, though, is not the only thing people are petitioning the White House for. Included among the 140 petitions currently displayed on the site: two seeking federal legalization of marijuana, one asking for the halt of U.S. drone strikes and one demanding a recount of the election.

patric

Quote from: custosnox on November 14, 2012, 11:37:19 PM
"Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them
Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported".

So, they cant "self-deport"?
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custosnox

Quote from: patric on November 15, 2012, 10:26:24 AM
So, they cant "self-deport"?

Maybe give them a patch of land down near el paso and let them self-deport there and have their own little country the size of a small town.