Oklahoma lawmaker shows prejudice against Islam

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

quote:Originally posted by kakie

Heard of separation of Church and State?

Have you?  And do you have an understanding of that concept at all?

I strongly encourage you to sue the Ethnic Council and the State.

Everyone, please stop with the lawsuit stuff--at least wait until RW tells us the theory is viable.

[Admin]

Is this going somewhere?

If not, please move along.

[MichaelC]

quote:Originally posted by Admin

Is this going somewhere?

Does the toilet count?

I mean, in a way, it could be defined as "somewhere".

Gotta be more specific. []

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

quote:Originally posted by Admin

Is this going somewhere?

Does the toilet count?

I mean, in a way, it could be defined as "somewhere".

Gotta be more specific. []

Seems accurate.

[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by kakie

Today in the Tulsa World I read:

..."[Governor's Ethnic American] Council chairwoman Marjan Seirafi-Pour said the intent of the council is to work with the government and others to build understanding of Islam."

In other words, they are trying to advance the religion of Islam.  

How in the world do you get that they are trying to advance a religion from "build understanding of Islam"?  

I get from that statement that the council is wanting to quell the irrational fear that is directed to all Muslims so that they aren't looked at suspiciously wherever they go.

But of course, I'm not looking to scapegoat any group and paint them with a broad brush either.

Sorry, seems like someone already addressed this (I don't have the time to keep up here), but my sentiment still stands.

[okiebybirth]

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[rwarn17588]

<Spoonbill wrote:

This incident is causing people to question the 100% Muslim makeup of the council. Among the members are Mohammad Farzaneh who donated over $100,000 to governor Henry and other state politicians. The other members of the counsel, mostly wealthy physicians are now being scrutinized for their donations to Henry prior to his election.

Also being examined, is evidence that the statement given to the media was prepared in advance by the group's attorney and ready for the press prior to the anticipated refusal of the Koran by the lawmakers.

Out of all of the lawmakers that refused the item, David Derby of Owasso, Guy Liebmann of Oklahoma City, Mark McCullough of Sapulpa, Mike Reynolds of Oklahoma City, Susan Winchester of Chickasha, Rex Duncan of Sand Springs and Senators Randy Brogdon of Owasso and David Myers of Ponca City, they singled out a target they felt was vulnerable.

Interestingly enough, this is far from over. Very cunning.

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The Muslims you named also gave money to Republican politicians. In other words, they gave to both sides.

Even if one accepts this highly dubious notion that somehow the Muslim group managed to coordinate this controversy, you still come up with this none-too-flattering conclusion:

"It's the Muslims' fault that we were exposed as  stupid, bigoted and rude!

[}:)]

[kakie]

Is it possible to have a discussion here about this without someone using the word bigot?  Discussion cannot flow when you name call.  It is stupid, childish and any intelligent person can see right throught this attempt to stop the discussion.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by kakie

Is it possible to have a discussion here about this without someone using the word bigot?  Discussion cannot flow when you name call.  

Nope and dumb question. You disagree with Michael C.

[kakie]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by kakie

Is it possible to have a discussion here about this without someone using the word bigot?  Discussion cannot flow when you name call.  

Nope and dumb question. You disagree with Michael C.

How clever.  

He is certainly helping me raise awareness about the types questions that should be asked.  If one has nothing to hide, there is no problem is answering a question.  But when they are answered with name calling - well that is an answer in and of itself.

Thanks, Michael!

[Moderator]

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