Alternative to conservation districts

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by booWorld

McMansions are not an urgent problem for most of Tulsa.  I'd guess that most Tulsans don't care about McMansions.  I could be wrong.

I can't think of any McMansions in my neighborhood.  Perhaps there are some, but if so, I haven't noticed them.  I haven't seen any in Lortondale, but I'm not in Lortondale very often.

It's not an urgent problem. What you have is a few mid-town elitists who do not want their precious, "pristine" neighborhoods violated by development. Sort of a "not in my backyard" mentality. []

[hoodlum]

another more accurate depiction might be lets keep that which is uniquely Tulsa around

"elitist" one of the more over used meaningless broadbrushing words used to attempt to discredit what is truly an issue in Tulsa as it has been in countless cities across the United States.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by hoodlum

another more accurate depiction might be lets keep that which is uniquely Tulsa around

"elitist" one of the more over used meaningless broadbrushing words used to attempt to discredit what is truly an issue in Tulsa as it has been in countless cities across the United States.

Oh, and your use of the term "McMansion" is not "meaningless broadbrushing" intended to discredit a style of home that some people might appreciate. Whatever...

[Renaissance]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by hoodlum

another more accurate depiction might be lets keep that which is uniquely Tulsa around

"elitist" one of the more over used meaningless broadbrushing words used to attempt to discredit what is truly an issue in Tulsa as it has been in countless cities across the United States.

Oh, and your use of the term "McMansion" is not "meaningless broadbrushing" intended to discredit a style of home that some people might appreciate. Whatever...

The McMansion is the Big Box store of American homes.  Huge, comfortable, convenient and utterly devoid of character.  Both have thier place in areas where they don't replace something of greater historical value.  Just as we who are sensitive to urban design and character don't like big box retail coming to Main Street, we don't like McMansions coming to Cherry Street.

If you don't understand the distinction, I can't help you.  But it's there, and it's worthy of discussion and protection.

[hoodlum]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by hoodlum

another more accurate depiction might be lets keep that which is uniquely Tulsa around

"elitist" one of the more over used meaningless broadbrushing words used to attempt to discredit what is truly an issue in Tulsa as it has been in countless cities across the United States.

Oh, and your use of the term "McMansion" is not "meaningless broadbrushing" intended to discredit a style of home that some people might appreciate. Whatever...

if you look above I said exactly that

i think that the term mcmansion is just the same, there are some insensitive infill projects that are not mcmansions. But the word McMansion is so damn catchy, that everything gets put under that terminology.

But for you to say a few elitists is unfair as I know a lot of the peopel in my neighborhood are ineterested and so are a lot of the people I encountered at district 4 meetings.

however i feel stronger about the slow demise of uniquely Tulsan heritage.

[Hometown]

I can't imagine a more important topic for Tulsa.  Our historic architecture is being destroyed right and left.  But this is really an uphill battle for Tulsa because of the complete disregard for our history propounded by the Tulsa World.  The most recent of their sins was hounding Maria Barnes out of office because she supported conservation districts.

I personally hold the Lorton family responsible for encouraging the destruction of our great historic architecture by labeling any and all development and redevelopment as "progress."

And our historic commissions and societies are asleep at the wheel.

We are neglecting and tearing down important buildings and making bad zoning decisions today.  Talk about stupid and depressing.

[hoodlum]

we will be waking up pretty soon hometown

the alarm clock is about to ring!

[BeachBum]

quote: Originally posted by hoodlum

but i think we should ask are conservation districts really that controversial?

They have had great success in other cities so what is the obstacle here?

i think thats what we should address, i think it is about education.

this is a great indepth look at NCD's

What if it's not working so great in other cities?  Check out this article from Dallas.  There it's ripping neighborhoods apart.  Maybe it's not quite the panacea some might lead us to believe.

NCDs Ripping Nieghborhoods Apart.

[hoodlum]

from the article it looks as though it is working fine in dallas with the exception of an individual subdivision.

these have been implemented and work fine in numerous cities. there is precedence here.