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« on: May 23, 2009, 10:55:19 pm »
Expo Square CEO Mark Andrus states that the fair board will deduct the stormwater management and solid waste removal fees from its monthly utility payments to the city, and asks the city to exempt them from the 2 percent franchise fee charged monthly by American Electric Power-Public Service Company of Oklahoma.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090523_16_A11_ExpoSq937399
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2009, 05:20:56 am »
I wonder if I can try that?
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2009, 01:24:17 pm »
RM: I don’t believe that you can get away with it.  I have been assessed on a vacant lot going back three years when there was no water meter or tap.

The storm water fee is a being construed as a property tax that was enacted without the vote of the people.  The franchise tax was voted on by the people but I don’t think the people knew when voting on it that they were the ones that was going to be billed for it.   
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2009, 09:14:47 pm »
Quote from: shadows on May 24, 2009, 01:24:17 pm
I don’t think the people knew when voting on it that they were the ones that was going to be billed for it.   
People are pretty stupid, then. Regulated utilities have rates set on a cost-plus basis. Either the rate per billable unit increases when cost increases or there is a line item added to the bill. I personally prefer it broken out.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2009, 10:37:25 pm »
Quote from: nathanm on May 24, 2009, 09:14:47 pm
People are pretty stupid, then.

No, just the liberal ones.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2009, 07:52:48 am »
Quote from: Conan71 on May 24, 2009, 10:37:25 pm
No, just the liberal ones.
Don't be fooled into believing that either liberals or conservatives have a monopoly on stupidity.
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2009, 08:20:52 am »
Quote from: nathanm on May 25, 2009, 07:52:48 am
Don't be fooled into believing that either liberals or conservatives have a monopoly on stupidity.

Oh, not that tired old meme.   Wink


I'm just having some fun with you. 

As to the OP, FAIK, isn't the fairboard an entity of the County?  I'm curious if recent events between the city and county and their resulting litigation isn't more about a few people who would like to see city/county services and properties combined kind of like Miami/Dade.  The argument is for more streamlined and efficient local governance. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2009, 09:33:48 am »
Quote from: Conan71 on May 25, 2009, 08:20:52 am
would like to see city/county services and properties combined kind of like Miami/Dade.  The argument is for more streamlined and efficient local governance. 
That would be a good thing as far as I'm concerned, but I doubt any of the other cities and towns in Tulsa County would appreciate it much. Too much encroachment on their own personal fiefdoms.
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