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Started by guido911, May 21, 2010, 12:20:16 PM

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Gaspar

Quote from: Hoss on October 08, 2010, 01:57:40 PM
But it's no different to what party is in power.  You notice the Republicans rubber-stamped the binge spending that Bush 43 proposed.  Where were all the screechers and screamers on that side of the aisle?

Actually it was worse.  Bush rubber-stamped most of the spending that congress put forth. 
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: we vs us on October 08, 2010, 01:53:58 PM
There are limits to everything, obviously, and yes you're right about interest, credit, and repayment:  tis the same dynamic for everyone.

In my household? Well, it depends.  If I'm unemployed and I'm gonna max my cards out on strippers and blow, that's one thing.  I'm a moron and will find myself in the poor house (and there's a good bet that, if I'm a moron, the credit card companies have already closed my accounts, because I'll have defaulted in the past). But if I'm going to spend it on getting a job certification, or pull some equity out of my house to support my Amway business, or maybe even borrow $1k from my Dad to get my car fixed before it breaks down entirely and keeps me from getting to job interviews . . . well, you see that the definition of what I can "afford" might change with the circumstances.  

Finally, we are getting somewhere!  Here's what I don't think you are seeing: Congress is maxing out our credit line on strippers & blow. 

I don't think all government spending is bad.  I also think there's certain types of spending which can specifically help the economy and create jobs so long as spending isn't tied soley to quid-pro-quo's like Republicans and the MIC and Democrats and the big unions.

I simply got rankled when it seemed like you were suggesting the government really didn't have any limits for borrowing.  As a matter of principle, even though you can borrow $14 trillion should you do that in the first place?  Believe me I wasn't always a live within my means person and I've been pretty irresponsible with financial priorities in the past.  I'm simply tired of seeing politicians just keep on spending and spending and creating more layers of administration to oversee the spending. 

There's absolutely no reason whatsoever for our Federal, state, and municipal governments to have grown to the size they have (I actually think Tulsa County is run rather efficiently though, just not the city).  Percentages of spending and borrowing to GDP and percentages of the total workforce employed by the government are meaningless in trying to justify financial irresponsibility.  There simply is no justification for it.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

we vs us

Annnnd that may be where we get to the good-faith parting of ways.  I'm pretty positive that what Obama's been doing is the opposite of strippers and blow.  Shoring up infrastructure, keeping people from being tossed from their homes, small business tax breaks . . . and HCR, which didn't go far enough, is at least a starting shot at reform of a monstrously huge industry that's slowly gobbling up our productive capital.

All of that stuff, to me, is the equivalent of maxing out your credit card on job training and keeping the car running so you can get to the job interview.  When you compare that to massive (and ultimately ineffectual) tax cuts + a trillion-dollar war of choice, that's at the very least necessary debt.


guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

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